Niu's pic topic part3

[NotMiki]

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/10/26/persona-2-innocent-sin-remake-bound-for-psp/

goddammit, now I want a PSP.

[Niu]

Honestly, I find the Venus & Brave port a much much better news.

[Hunter Sopko]

Honestly, I find the Venus & Brave port a much much better news.

Somewhere I think RC just creamed his pants. Granted, not like it'd ever come over here, probably.

[DjinnAndTonic]

P2IS - The only game where Zombie Hitler, Mecha-Nazis living in Antarctica, and LET'S POSITIVE THINKING makes sense.

I wish they could update the gameplay to something more P4-like, but I'd be satisfied with an official English release of any sort.

[Niu]

The system seems to be copy and paste at this point.
I just they can keep the atmosphere the same. Making it P3/P4 like would be disastrous.

Oh, Djinn, any luck?

[Cmdr_King]

Hopefully they at least give it the combo memory thing that EP had.

[Niu]

I think EP's system is what they use.

[Talaysen]

They're using EP's enhancements, yeah.  Not sure it's copying the whole battle system from EP, but it's been mentioned they're using some features from it at least.  Easier combos were specifically mentioned though.

[hinode]

Officially confirmed, not that any of us are surprised after the VA leak.

[Niu]

My expectation in Dissidia has reduced by 30% ever since the news leaked out.

[Meeplelard]

Well, now we're basically in the "" area as far as new characters go.  We don't know what to base things off of outside of Characters outside of second guessing characters based off popularity!

Though, FF11 getting a villain seems likely...

[DjinnAndTonic]

Man, they could have at least given him his FFTA2 outfit...

[Meeplelard]

Every character was confirmed 3 outfits, I believe, so his FFTA2 Outfit will probably be his other in-game alt, just cause its obvious.

That other outfit in there is based off his Amano, mind; its basically a trend with Duodecim Alts, to have at least one based off the Amano (or some alternative Amano Art, like Firion).  In fairness, this is something more interesting than half of the first game's alts where its just like "hay gais, recoloring awsum!" like Zidane or Cecil.

[Niu]

An Cecile's third costume is still bad.

[Meeplelard]

Beats the hell out of his 2nd Costume though.  At least his 3rd costume shows notable differences (if requiring to be compared right next to his default) to his original that isn't just "lol color change ^_^"

Frankly, I don't know why they won't just give him a color design that resembles his SNES sprite.  You know, blue hair, gold/red armor...even if its just a recoloring, something that looks remotely interesting as a color change >>> that half assed attempt his original default had.  (No clue what they'd do with Dark knight though; this was obviously a point for Paladin only)

[Niu]

There are more problems. Some other character well just get more color swap for the third costume.
FF9 cast is pretty much duh, Cloud of Darkness is the same. I don't think EXdeath, Frionel, Gab, Ulty, Jack, and Kefka has any other designs either.
On the other hand, they better put in the Emperor of Light form for Mateus, it is already stupid that they didn't include that in the first game.

[Meeplelard]

Actually, you're wrong on several of those, cause new ALts have been confirmed through Trailers and demos:

Cloud of Dakrness:  She's going to have a design where her skin is orange.  Direct reference to how she FIRST appears in FF3.
Zidane: Pluto Knight Design.
Frionel: Evidently, he's getting his outfit from the FF2 CG from Origins (much as that doesn't look like him AT ALL)

They can be creative with a few designs too.  For example, giving Ultimecia a design that resembles Edea or Adel would be a start, and fitting.  Gabranth could easily get away with a Basch-like outfit.  And they could also give Kuja an outfit that resembles the Bran-bal Genomes.

And Emperor is, at least for his base design, getting his FF2 Origins CG Coloring, based on the FMV.  We don't know if he's getting the Light Emperor Form or not, but you have to realize that it might not be as feasible as you're claiming.  Main thing is, it looks completely different, and simply making a new skin may not work so well for something shaped like that.  I didn't say its impossible, but its understandable if they don't.

Besides, they openly stated they're trying to be more creative and make the new Alts not as throw away as the previous ones.  There's some vague hints that they may even be changing some old, useless alts in the mix.

You're looking at this way too simplistically, is my point.  Creativity can be applied, and seeing as they're actually giving Lightning an Aya Brea outfit, even if its DLC, they're very obviously not limited "has this character used this design?"

[Niu]

I see, I missed a quite a few.

But Lightning has Aya because they have the same voice actress.... I was wonder why didn't Cloud get a Xion suit by the same token. And, by the same token again, they could have dressed Cecil up as Straybow instead of the crappy The After outfit.

Also, Light Emperor is definitely possible. Golbez got his The After look which is a pretty different model. I expect the Emperor to have the same treatment.

[Meeplelard]

Different Model =/= Different Skin.  Many people make this problem.  Golbez is very obviously the same model in his 4TAY outfit, just its a new skin.  Light Emperor didn't even have a humanoid look to it; it resembled Alazahad's shape from what I recall.  Granted, Ultigriever didn't either, and they made a humanoid version of that, so by that token, I don't see why they would.

And...I'm not quite sure that's the logic being used, Niu.  That may be a cute connection, but I'm sure its cause they wanted PE3 to look more appealing, so add a bit of FF13 fanservice, which is big at the moment.  To sweeten the deal, if you pre-order PE3, you get an extra alt in DDFF for Lightning which is Aya Brea.

Cecil is *NOT* using his "The After" outfit, in any event.  Its his FF4DS outfit from his render.  Namely these ones:

http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-07/art/ff4-cecil-harvey2.jpg
http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-07/ff4-cecil-harvey1.html

Just look at the Render of the alt costume poses, and you'll see what I mean.

[Niu]

I see, though, it is still an uninspiring outfit.

And Meep, you seems to forget Light Emperor does have a humanoid design, that angel in a robe form. If anything fails, they can always resort to that.

[Meeplelard]

Its uninspired, but beats the hell out of his original Alt which was "based off the AMano colors", except it was the exact same design with all the blue replaced with Red on the Paladin, and a lighter toned Dark Knight.  That was just insultingly lazy, if you ask me.

(using the "Amano" excuse works for some characters, like Bartz or Cloud, where its genuinely a different outfit than what they're wearing (or in Firion's case, he has 2 Amano Outfits that are drastically different).  Cecil, though, his original was based off the Amano to begin with, so making an "Amano Coloring!" one is just exceedingly lazy.)

[Captain K.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLjV7jw8j78&feature=player_embedded

New Dissidia Duodenum trailer from Jump Fiesta.  Also it was revealed that the entire story mode from the first game is an unlockable in this one (with the new combat system though).

[Niu]

I am just wondering how they are going to handle the Summoner Yuna.

[Captain K.]

Probably just cop out and make her Gun Yuna in Summoner outfit.

[Niu]

Yeah, Nomura needs death now. Still no Gilgamesh this time is insulting enough as it is.....