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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #450 on: December 01, 2009, 11:10:58 PM »
So... Kaguya is Keine, eating people's histories.

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #451 on: December 12, 2009, 05:12:41 AM »
http://www.atings.com/uploads/1260576797.jpg

Why....? How....??

I mean, Atlus... are you out of your mind???

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #452 on: December 12, 2009, 05:20:46 AM »
...dammit Atlus, I'm still not watching it!
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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #453 on: December 12, 2009, 05:42:28 AM »
I mean, Atlus... are you out of your mind???

In the best way.  Well, Persona: Trinity Soul was kinda cool, so keep your hopes up.
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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #454 on: December 12, 2009, 05:52:49 AM »
http://www.atings.com/uploads/1260576797.jpg

Why....? How....??

I mean, Atlus... are you out of your mind???

What exactly is that advertising? Them making a Railgun game? Adding Misaka to Persona? Don't leave us in the dark

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #455 on: December 12, 2009, 05:58:13 AM »
The Railgun is making her way into SMT Imagine, the SMT MMORPG.
Just... how is that going to work?

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #456 on: December 12, 2009, 06:03:04 AM »
Awesomely, duh.
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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #457 on: December 17, 2009, 03:43:29 AM »
http://bbs.a9vg.com/read.php?tid=1364572&fpage=2

All PC art is revealed. After Tia end up looking stupid, now Guy too.

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #458 on: December 17, 2009, 03:47:51 AM »
Wow Dekar looks nothing like he did before. And be fair, Guy was always ugly.


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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #459 on: December 17, 2009, 03:55:33 AM »
So wait...

We have Biker Maxim, seductress Selan, Pro-Wrestler Guy, Bishie Artea (...ok, this one makes sense), Yu-Gi-Oh GX Reject Dekar, and "Tough Girl" styled Female Best Friend stereotype Tia?

...I can't help but feel there's something horribly wrong with this...barring Artea...
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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #460 on: December 17, 2009, 03:57:54 AM »
I approve 100%. These designs are so much better than the original art it's not even funny and you people are high on nostalgia to think otherwise.

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« Reply #461 on: December 17, 2009, 04:00:49 AM »
It's amusing, to me. I don't really care either way, but to be fair I'm not really considering this a remake anymore so much as a loosely stylised rewrite of the same game.

Kinda like "Pride, Prejudice and Zombies".

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #462 on: December 17, 2009, 04:01:52 AM »
They all look undeniably prettier, that's for sure (SO HARD WITH ORIGINAL L2 ART). Besides Selan and Maxim and maaaaaaaaaaybe Guy, though, they're pretty much full-on visual reboots. Which is an entirely different discussion.
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« Reply #463 on: December 17, 2009, 04:04:44 AM »
Also, who's the final picture? Is that a new Lexis?

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #464 on: December 17, 2009, 04:08:51 AM »
Apparently that's Tia?
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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #465 on: December 17, 2009, 04:09:23 AM »
The orange-haired girl with Goggles is Tia. Still 1000x better than her hideous pink dress ensemble, if you're talking strictly about designs.

The new designs are a lot more visually interesting in addition to not being drawn by toddler with a crayon.

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« Reply #466 on: December 17, 2009, 04:09:36 AM »
...

Okay, now I'm amused. They turned Tia into Quasi-Fantasy Precis?

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #467 on: December 17, 2009, 04:15:10 AM »
I also have to add that they seem to be doing some personality retooling as well. If nothing else, the visual reboot seems to not stand alone, which at least sounds consistent. The changes don't really bother me due to that - seems to be a full-blown effort in recreation rather than a remake.
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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #468 on: December 17, 2009, 04:26:04 AM »
They are doing for the worse. As in, magnifying what is bad about the original game.
Prepare for long drawn stupid love triangle full of anime tropism, I guarantee you it'll be there. At least the original saved us the pain by making character personality don't exists.
And there is the likelihood that Guy is going to be really bad.
Also lies to everyone who think Tia got better, you can't possibly think Precis is a good character.

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« Reply #469 on: December 17, 2009, 04:32:00 AM »
Note I'm not bashing the designs on how they look, it just strikes as me weird that they'd take established designs and completely redo them, turning them into effectively new characters entirely with the same name.  Its hard to take a character who looks entirely different than what you're use to and consider them the same.  It'd be one thing if this was an NES game (or possibly early SNES) where characters weren't detailed enough, but...yeah.

Its...well, I hate to use this example, but Castlevania Judgment is a fine example of what's wrong with that.  Could you recognize like ANY of the characters in that game outside of the name?  I mean, ok, Alucard was bishietastic, and Dracula had the White Hair + Stache + Evil look...but beyond that, no one resembled themselves in anyway shape or form.  Would you have guessed that was Simon if he wasn't holding the whip?  Or hell, could have you figured out that was Simon compared to every other Belmont <_<?

Its more that kind of idea, if that makes sense.  Its not so much a complaint as much as "Wait, what? Why?"  I mean, at very least, they could have kept the hair color consistent, to keep SOME features the same.  This is mostly looking at Dekar and Tia here...especially annoying in Dekar's case cause he appeared in Lufia 4 where his design was consistent.

Guess what I'm saying is that while the designs themselves aren't bad, they are poor representations of the characters in question.  Then again, it sounds like this is a remake in the loosest sense, and is more going for a whole new game from head to toe, but reusing the same general plotline and characters (I notice there's a lack of Lexis in that list, for example.  He's probably in the game somewhere, but wouldn't shock me if his role was reduced.)
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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #470 on: December 17, 2009, 04:36:56 AM »
Tia doesn't really look much like Precis, though. Yeah, they both have goggles, but this new Tia design doesn't have stupid 3-foot-tall hair, a loli-bait appearance, bright pink jacket, or weird oversized robo-hand-thing (though personally, I think the robo-hand thing is kinda neat). The design is stream-lined while retaining an interesting cut, and has a lot of smaller details to cut down on blank space.

It's very clearly a superior design to Precis and her original L2 look.

Giving the characters a personality and a story, even a trope-filled one is still better in my mind than having nothing at all. I agree that it -could- be a potentially horrible move, but I doubt it'll ever get to the point where I'll think 'I would have liked it better if there wasn't a story at all' (That's reserved for games like G3 and XS3).

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #471 on: December 17, 2009, 04:43:18 AM »
Its...well, I hate to use this example, but Castlevania Judgment is a fine example of what's wrong with that.  Could you recognize like ANY of the characters in that game outside of the name?  I mean, ok, Alucard was bishietastic, and Dracula had the White Hair + Stache + Evil look...but beyond that, no one resembled themselves in anyway shape or form.  Would you have guessed that was Simon if he wasn't holding the whip?  Or hell, could have you figured out that was Simon compared to every other Belmont <_<?

Well, to be fair, Castlevania designs themselves haven't really been that consistent over releases...

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I mean, at very least, they could have kept the hair color consistent, to keep SOME features the same.  This is mostly looking at Dekar and Tia here...especially annoying in Dekar's case cause he appeared in Lufia 4 where his design was consistent.

Well, clearly original Dhyer DEKAR was dying his hair blue, which would explain the pink spot. In the remake, he has forgone hairdye. Blue isn't stylish anymore. Tia clearly feels the same way. That's why her hair is so short, too. She must have -just- grown it out long enough to get it chopped off. </bs>

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Guess what I'm saying is that while the designs themselves aren't bad, they are poor representations of the characters in question.  Then again, it sounds like this is a remake in the loosest sense, and is more going for a whole new game from head to toe, but reusing the same general plotline and characters (I notice there's a lack of Lexis in that list, for example.  He's probably in the game somewhere, but wouldn't shock me if his role was reduced.)

Well, they've been reusing the same storyline/characters in every game since the beginning anyway. They probably figured this way is less pretentious. (And I agree with them.)
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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #472 on: December 17, 2009, 04:48:25 AM »
Tia doesn't really look much like Precis, though. Yeah, they both have goggles, but this new Tia design doesn't have stupid 3-foot-tall hair, a loli-bait appearance, bright pink jacket, or weird oversized robo-hand-thing (though personally, I think the robo-hand thing is kinda neat). The design is stream-lined while retaining an interesting cut, and has a lot of smaller details to cut down on blank space.

It's very clearly a superior design to Precis and her original L2 look.

By this point, I think you should understand it is not just the problem of how they look anymore? You seem to not recognize how true that Tia=Precis statement has become.

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« Reply #473 on: December 17, 2009, 04:49:04 AM »
Well, clearly original Dhyer was dying his hair blue

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Re: Niu's pic topic part3
« Reply #474 on: December 17, 2009, 04:53:45 AM »
Tia doesn't really look much like Precis, though. Yeah, they both have goggles, but this new Tia design doesn't have stupid 3-foot-tall hair, a loli-bait appearance, bright pink jacket, or weird oversized robo-hand-thing (though personally, I think the robo-hand thing is kinda neat). The design is stream-lined while retaining an interesting cut, and has a lot of smaller details to cut down on blank space.

It's very clearly a superior design to Precis and her original L2 look.

By this point, I think you should understand it is not just the problem of how they look anymore? You seem to not recognize how true that Tia=Precis statement has become.

I have to wonder how desperate one must be when caught trying to extract -anything- from Lufia writing and characters.

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Well, clearly original Dhyer was dying his hair blue

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