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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5)
Ellen Kirishima (Personas) vs. T260G (SaGa)
Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9)
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)

Heavy

Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3)
Legretta (TotA) vs. Edwin Odesseiron (BGs)
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8)
Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2)

Middle

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH)
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP)
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS)
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE)

Light

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM)
Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS)
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA)
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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5)
Ellen Kirishima (Personas) vs. T260G (SaGa)- I voted this way during Red/Purim. Stupid Saga headaches.
Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9)
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)- Defense should just see her through.

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Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3)- ITE physical.
Legretta (TotA) vs. Edwin Odesseiron (BGs)- Not a ton of Legretta HP respect. Unless I'm mistaken Edwin can buff through and burn through her HP.
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8)
Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2)- Beat is turn one ID, Millenia doesn't have MDef or ID protection.

Middle

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH)- Splat.
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS)- Most likely.
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE)- Ras needs to downgrade.

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Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM)- Miklotov has defense if nothing else.
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA)- I voted Asch into puny for a reason.
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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5) - Not even Castle form saves him I think. >_>
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8) - Honestly, this is sort of a cool match (Emily 3HKOs and goes first, Empyrea gets outslugged if she goes for the magic), but Emily needs to dodge three attacks out of four, since Empy 2HKOs solidly. Her evade ain't that good.

Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8) - Free win.
Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2) - Beat!

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH) - I guess he 2HKOs. ._.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP) - Immunes ID and shreds Arche with Rapid Attack => AB rush. She needs to OHKO to have a prayer.
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS) - Kain in Middle+Kain against fastish healer with Slow+Kain against someone with Defend. Yeah, that's going over well, and he only needs one factor out of those three to lose. All three are piled up. >_>
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE) - I got to mid-disc 2 in ToE, and I feel confident enough about voting on this. Ras's 10HKO damage ain't killing anyone ever before he dies off that HP. And PC form gets outslugged all the same, Reinbach takes hits well enough in spite of the HP.

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM) - EDIT: wait, the Rune attached to Mik's blade isn't Lightning. Um yeah, Randi wins it out.
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7) - Rufus vs. anyone.
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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5): Yeah.
Ellen Kirishima (Personas) vs. T260G (SaGa)
Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9)
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8): Defence against crits... I dunno. Test of exactly where I see Emily's evade, too.

Heavy

Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2): Thwack.

Middle

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH): Nergal has about 75% average pdur to me. I THINK Diego does enough damage to 2HKO that. Might be wrong, but he does beat all the mages on damage, and only loses to Ash by a notable margin...
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS): Not Kain in Middle. Seriously, slows him down, heals, etc.

Light

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM): Faster. In practice they're not horribly different otherwise.
Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS): May vote Tellah, I've arguably played enough ToS for this.
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7): Har.
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA): Oh god. Anyway, gets off an MA.

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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5)- Myria.
Ellen Kirishima (Personas) vs. T260G (SaGa)- Ellen. Har har.
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)- Close match either way

Heavy

Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3)- Galcian
Legretta (TotA) vs. Edwin Odesseiron (BGs)- Legretta. Think this was the end result of how tearing it down in chat went. Edwin's damage isn't anything special/no solid anti phyiscal damage buff
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8)- Marisa
Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2)- Cristo

Middle

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH)- Nergal
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP)- Jude
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS)- MOMO
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE)- Rassius. Boss form crushes. Boss form is also last form!

Light

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM)- Randi, I guess?
Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS)-  Unsure
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)- Chisato
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA)- Asch. Boss form does this easily. Not something enough said.
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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5): Castle form could beat Myria3! Uh...
Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9): See him doubling everything, so splat. Even though a couple wind shots do come somewhat close to doing Tibarn in.
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8): If this is close based on the assumption that Emily 3HKOs, then it is an easy win for Empyrea to me.

Heavy

Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3)
Legretta (TotA) vs. Edwin Odesseiron (BGs): 2HKOs, maybe OHKOs with Searing sorrow (AoE physical tech, ~65% PCHP damage, available at 75% HP or lower.) Legretta can't do much before that but Edwin's a defensive buffer, he doesn't have anything in the way of augmenting his damage besides... summons. There's a -chance- that they're good enough to blow through Legretta's HP if you really disrespect it and they hit harder than I remember. But I doubt it. We need to fetch the old, complete BG2 topic though.
Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2)

Middle

Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS): Apparently MOMO sucks ass or something unless you take XS3? I don't remember too well.

Light

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM)
Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS): Thinking instant double, but close.
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA)

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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5)
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)

Heavy

Galcian (SoA)
vs. Sarah (S3)
Legretta (TotA) vs. Edwin Odesseiron (BGs)- No, not buying summons burning through good boss HP.
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8)- Tales fighter vs. FE. Eats evasion and counter.

Middle

Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP)- Jude 2HKOs with AB. Arche OHKOs with Meteor Swarm, probably. Problem is, Jude's going first with Rapid Attack and AB.
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS)- Unless memory serves me wrong, MOMO was incredibly broken in part 2, while Kain is.....Kain.
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE)- Meh. Rass' boss form has nothing but durability, Rass' PC form has nothing RESEMBLING durability. Schtolthenheim at least had that Red Rose Rune(Or something).

Light

Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS)- Tellah HP disrespect, kicking in.
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA)- ASCH WINNING?

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Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS): Apparently MOMO sucks ass or something unless you take XS3? I don't remember too well.

XS1 MOMO has perfect accuracy Slow and Confuse alongside 50% healing off solid speed. This is hardly what I'd call "suckass". It may not be much, but Slow+healing alone own Kain hard. She is frail, but it doesn't matter. Kain juust misses the 2HKO under the most generous interp to his Jump damage (assuming she can't defend) and is just boned otherwise.
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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5)
Ellen Kirishima (Personas) vs. T260G (SaGa)
Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9)- Don't see Wind Shot as hitting weakness. It's a glorified physical.
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)

Heavy

Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3)
Legretta (TotA) vs. Edwin Odesseiron (BGs)
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8]

Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2)

Middle

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH)
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP)
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS)
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE)

Light

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM)
Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS)

Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA)- Six Tales characters in one week. They are invading, making my voting rights all really damn bad~
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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5) - Regen hype! *is shot*
Ellen Kirishima (Personas) vs. T260G (SaGa) - No vote.
Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9) - uhh... not sure what to make of Wind Shot. Leaning towards allowing it to hit weakness, but I could see Tibarn as doubling.
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8) - champ. obviously.

Heavy

Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3) - slaughters.
Legretta (TotA) vs. Edwin Odesseiron (BGs) - can't actually vote, but if I could, Legretta MA hype would go here.
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8) - Or, Mary's an amnesiac and -forgot- how to lose. No, doesn't work as well as Dekar...
Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2) - EDIT: Thought she blocked ID? Whatever, don't care enough to check.

Middle

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH) - No VH, but good luck to the last of VH duelists.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP) - Assault Buster's accuracy is pretty horrible, I'm calling it out against the innately-hard-to-hit ToP character. Jude 2HKOs, Arche 2HKOs at worst against Jude's horrible MDEF, Jude whiffs AB. EDIT: Well, I just finished WA4 and while I still think AB has accuracy issues, I'm completely sold on Jude's speed in general. Jude gets more than enough turns before Arche gets her second turn. Still an interesting match. But but TotW:Radiant Mythology form! *is shot* Okay, I'll stop.
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS) - Gah, downgrade Kain.
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE) - don't remember either character enough to be sure, and don't really care?

Light

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM) - This is... close.
Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS) - Hey, another fun match, we have less failure Lights than usual this week.
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7) - Here too.
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA) - Well... Almost.

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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5) - Yeah you know my deal here~

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Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8) - TALES IN HEAVY
Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2) - He'll lose anyway.

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Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP) - Broom evasion hype but wait what
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS) - lol kain

Light

Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS) - FF4DS~

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Re: Season 46, Week 1 - Myria becomes a treehugger and two fops slapfight in Mid
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2008, 06:47:37 PM »
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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5) - Thinking. Castle form has a decent chance to me, no matter what form Myria chooses.
Ellen Kirishima (Personas) vs. T260G (SaGa) - T260G can't OHKO first turn. Battle over.
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8) - Ahahahahahahaha oh gods.

Heavy

Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2) - Bounce? ID? Either one works.

Middle

Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP) - No clue. Abstain for now.

Light

Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7) - Aaaahahahahaa DIE RUFUS, DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9)- Don't see Wind Shot as hitting weakness. It's a glorified physical.

Doesn't matter here.  Rashidi should still kill before Tibarn gets two actions (FE9's not doubling or even especially close) and Tibarn's offense isn't much without that on paper.

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Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2) - Spellbinding Eye works.

It would if she could block ID and wasn't slow!

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And Rashidi's durability isn't much. <_< He survives on his nuke damage, he gets part of his nuke damaged unnuked, he dies.
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Re: Season 46, Week 1 - Myria becomes a treehugger and two fops slapfight in Mid
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2008, 07:50:54 PM »
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP) - Assault Buster's accuracy is pretty horrible, I'm calling it out against the innately-hard-to-hit ToP character. Jude 2HKOs, Arche 2HKOs at worst against Jude's horrible MDEF, Jude whiffs AB.

A) Assault Buster's accuracy isn't THAT horrible (81%).
B) Assault Buster hits MULTIPLE TIMES, so it does not whiff.  It just hits less times per attack than normal.

Also, best strategy would be:

Jude (Attack) -> Arche (something) -> Jude (Assault Buster) -> Jude (Assault Buster).  Since the first Assault Buster is boosted by Rapid Attack, this is more than enough to kill her off.

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Well, assuming you don't factor recharge times into the average like me (Might still be close to killing her to me anyways)!
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Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3): PC form eats Eternum, boss form gets OHKOd.
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8)

Middle

Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS): XS1 is tricky, XS2 outslugs with vastly better damage.

Light

Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS): OK, checked Tellah's HP, about half PC, the def is below half PC. So he probably dies to a single combo, I now see him at like... 45% Pdurability. If that. Uh. Yikes.
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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5): One sided fight.  No, Human form doesn't win this, don't try to delude into thinking that's the case.  He doesn't really gain much damage until halfway into the fight, and she already has a massive durability advantage.
Ellen Kirishima (Personas) vs. T260G (SaGa): Cosmic Rave hits through her defenses, given it was clearly meant to be some sort of weird Nontyped attack.
Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9): Wind Shot hits weakness and debatably gets around Cancel since its MT.  Furthermore, Tibarn isn't doubling which means his offense is effectively halved.  Much as I hate Rashidi, think he holds the advantage in this fight.
AS A REMINDER, FE9 Tibarn is NOT this almighty speedster.  In fact, he's the SLOWEST of the 3 Royals, beaten by Giffca by 1 point.  He's barely faster than Ike, in fact.  FE10 Tibarn, admittedly, is about as fast as hyped...if not more...yay 11 points above average speed!
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8): Emily needs Criticals to come in at the right times and such, don't think I see that happening.

Heavy

Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3): Sarah against high class physicals.
Legretta (TotA) vs. Edwin Odesseiron (BGs): Need to look up Edwin *shakes fist at BG*
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8): Mary is happy I only take Weapon Triangle from the offensive standpoint (as in, Maria gets +1 Attack and +15 Hit, but opponent doesn't get penalties)...she's not happy in how Marisa kicks her ass anyway.
Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2): Pretty sure Cristo can't stop Millenia with Stop Spell since Spellbinding Eye ig-...wait, right, Cristo had Instant Death and Millenia's magic defense is atrocious, NEVERMIND.

Middle

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH): Counters offset the doubles, and pretty sure Diego doesn't 2HKO which he needs to.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP): Immunes Instant Death, goes first, and 2HKOs.  Arche needs to OHKO...and there's not a single average that'd let her do that.
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS): You know, pretty sure MOMO doesn't need any status sort of help to win this fight.  Evasion and Healing already screws Kain as is, and she can use Ether damage to get around his defenses.  Admittedly, Slow is just icing for this match.
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE): Uh, yeah, Rassius just gets his ass kicked here, yay 10HKO damage and all that.

Light

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM): Go match of blandness?
Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS): Tellah has status and such, which should murder Colette.  If nothing else, Toad or Break or Stop or whatever.
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7): Rufus.
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA): Evil Gaia.
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Re: Season 46, Week 1 - Myria becomes a treehugger and two fops slapfight in Mid
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2008, 06:18:38 AM »
According to the Stat topic, Castle Exdeath has Flame, which is 25% Max HP damage, and it works even on foes immune to instant death.  Not sure if that's enough, but Myria does have a lot of HP.

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General consensus is that people don't allow Gravity-type moves to hit bosses unless the game has empirical evidence that the boss in question can be hit by them. So, Flame would be seen as useless in that match on average.
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Well, since it's unimmunable mHP-based damage, I'd see it doing 0.25 PCHP damage to a boss. Which is to say it's terrible damage. But I'd see it working!

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Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP) - Assault Buster's accuracy is pretty horrible, I'm calling it out against the innately-hard-to-hit ToP character. Jude 2HKOs, Arche 2HKOs at worst against Jude's horrible MDEF, Jude whiffs AB.

I'm really just beating on a dead horse here, since Tal's covered most of the important stuff.

But okay, let's say AB WAS inaccurate and suffers an accuracy penalty because Arche flies. In this case, Jude will use Physical + 2x Silver Launcher. I'm assuming Arche as average speed. Any movement speed advantage she has is probably killed by being casting spells (and therefore, slower).

Turn order then is:
Jude --> Arche --> Jude --> Arche --> Jude --> Jude

Jude goes first, attacks. This physical NORMALLY gets a flyer bonus in damage. But for this argument, I'll assume it doesn't. So 4800 damage dealt. It doesn't suffer accuracy penalties. After this physical, Jude's next turn is sped up by 56% or so. Turn order now looks like this:

Arche --> Jude --> Jude.

Arche deals 5500 damage to a 5205 average or so. This is enough to 2HKO Jude. Since Jude is blocking ID, this is her best option. She goes, and does that. Now Jude gets his Double. He uses Silver Launcher x2, each doing around 6800 a piece. He's fast enough from the spillover speed that he will keep his 3-2 on Arche, as he's 1.39 average out of the gate.

Jude's cumulative damage is 18400. The Kill point for WA4 is around 19000 or so. So yes, Jude JUST misses the kill. He deals 0.927 or so. BUT, Arche's durability compared to the rest of her cast comes into play. She has 5280 HP to a 5900 average. This translates to 0.894 for durability. Arche has EXACTLY average Pdef.

Unless She's OHKOing, she's not winning. Period. And I checked the damage averages for that too. She doesn't even come close.

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Yeah, the only way Arche might even have a chance of OHKOing is if you totally ignored everything in the second half of Morlia period (so Arche would lose her ID). Chester would take a big hit, Cress would be forced to go from Excalibur to the Eternal Sword, and Klarth would lose like ~25% in going from Gremlin to Origin. Granted, I doubt even this pushes her to OHKOing.

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Myria (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5)
Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9): Doubles.
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8): Echoing everyone else, really.

Heavy

Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3)
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8): Sexy swordmaster. Come on, what does Mary have against THAT? (and then there are those doubles and stuff)

Middle

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH): Doubles, 2HKOs.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP): Eh-yep.
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS): What everyone else said. Scar screams in rage.
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE): I have no idea.

Light

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM): If NEB is voting for Randi I'll take that at face value!
Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS): Colette needed to pull a page out of Rita/Estelle's book and get some magic immunity.
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7): BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA): You're killing me.

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Tyr (BoFs) vs. Ex-Death (FF5) - Exy, I think?  Tyr is...form 1, if it's the girl, loses durability but gains some damage, hydra is the opposite.  I think Exdeath wins against those.  Tyr 3 is...closer, but he still takes it.  Granted, form-chain from final Exdeath into Neo-Exdeath helps a lot.
Ellen Kirishima (Personas) vs. T260G (SaGa) - Ellen.  Physi-wall - T620g hs no attacks that break that, unless Cosmic Rave is considered a Light attack and Light is considered dark by the game because SaGa attacks always hit the weakest resistance?!
Rashidi (OB) vs. Tibarn (FE9) - Tibarn.  FE10 form smashes.  Don't see Wind Shot as wind - the element doesn't exist in OB, it's just a name.  The attack is physical for all intents and purposes.  Pavise with speed and Tear is more than enough to beat out Rashidi.  Not much durability to his name at all.
Emily (S3) vs. Empyrea (DQ8) - Empyrea.  Get out of Godlike, Emily.

Heavy

Galcian (SoA) vs. Sarah (S3) - Galcian.  God damnit, Galcian...get killed next match.
Legretta (TotA) vs. Edwin Odesseiron (BGs) - Legretta.  Think good AoE is more than enough here.
Mary Argent (ToD) vs. Marisa (FE8) - Marisa. 
Cristo (DW4) vs. Millenia (G2) - Mmm...do not remember Beat being that good.  Not something above 50%, really.  And if it's not better than that, he really does lose here. 

Middle

Nergal (FE7) vs. Diego Renault (VH) - Nergal.  Nukifies.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Arche Klein (ToP) - Jude.  Arche flies, and Assault Buster is less accurate against fliers.  So Jude does lose some of it's punch there.  However, damage bonus from his normal physical makes that not matter.
Kain Highwind (FF4) vs. MOMO (XS) - MOMO.  XS3 form or XS1 form...or XS2 form.  Well, maybe not XS2, but...all other forms win this.
Schtolthenheim Reinbach III (S4) vs. Rassius Luine (ToE) - Rassius.  Defense and not total fail damage.

Light

Miklotov (S2) vs. Randi (SoM) - Randi.  Charge up for a 1-shot.
Tellah (FF4) vs. Colette Brunel (ToS) - Tellah.  ...how odd. 
Chisato Madison (SO2) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7) - Chisato.
Evil Gaia (G1) vs. Asch (TotA) - ...damnit.  Asch is a Heavy.  Poor EVIL GAIA finally losing to somehow it SHOULD lose to *grumbles about Sheena*
[11:53] <+Meeple_Gorath> me reading, that's a good one

[19:26] * +Terra_Condor looks up. Star Wars Football, what?
[19:27] <+Terra_Condor> Han Kicks First?
[19:27] <%Grefter-game> Vader intercepts.
[19:27] <%Grefter-game> Touchdown and Alderaan explodes in the victory