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List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« on: September 28, 2008, 03:50:57 AM »
Now, a refresher on the rules...

1. DO NOT rank characters from games you have not played. Just leave them off the list.

2. Your vote will not be counted if you don't rank at least 7 characters in each division.

3. Please don't vote for a character because you like him or her. This is based off of their overall battle prowess, just because Dekar>>>>>>>>>>>*Insert character here* in coolness points (:^)) doesn't mean he should be first in Godlike.

4. RPGDL rules apply, however you may interpret them.

5. Characters are not fighting other characters. You are just ranking them from best overall to worst overall

6. In this first round, the top 4 characters in each division move to the winners list, the characters ranked 5th-8th move to the losers bracket, and everyone else goes off somewhere and dies.

7. If a character does not get on at least three lists, he/she will be eliminated due to not being well known enough.

8. This isn't a rule, but if it isn't too much trouble could you please number your lists? Like
1. TimeLord
2. Squall
3. Jogurt, instead of

TimeLord
Squall
Jogurt

9. Don't use strategy in your lists. Don't put one person at the bottom just to push someone else up, unless you honestly believe he/she should be at the bottom. If you think Beatrix should be in the top 4, but she's only 6th, don't rank the people above her in the bottom of the list, unless they honestly deserve it.

Here's Week 1, of List Tournament... 7? 8? Ah, who the fuck knows. This group will be much stronger than the last list (We've ranked a ton of games since then and I'm using a bit of NR) expect this field to be way stronger than the last couple of list fields. Heavy is murder. Have fun!

Scoring system.

7 characters ranked
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1st: 16
2nd: 14
3rd: 11
4th: 8
5th: 5
6th: 2
7th: 0

8 Characters ranked
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1st: 16
2nd: 14
3rd: 12
4th: 9
5th: 7
6th: 5
7th: 3
8th: 0

9 Characters ranked
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1: 16
2: 14
3: 12
4: 10
5: 8
6: 6
7: 4
8: 2
9: 0

10
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 13
4: 11
5: 9
6: 7
7: 5
8: 3
9: 1
10: 0

11
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 12
5: 10
6: 8
7: 6
8: 4
9: 2
10: 1
11: 0

12
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 11
6: 10
7: 8
8: 6
9: 4
10: 2
11: 1
12: 0

13
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 12
6: 11
7: 9
8: 7
9: 6
10: 4
11: 2
12: 1
13: 0

14
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 12
6: 11
7: 10
8: 8
9: 7
10: 6
11: 4
12: 3
13: 2
14: 0

15
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 12
6: 11
7: 10
8: 9
9: 8
10: 7
11: 6
12: 4
13: 2
14: 1
15: 0

16
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 12
6: 11
7: 10
8: 9
9: 8
10: 7
11: 6
12: 5
13: 4
14: 3
15: 1
16: 0
 
Godlike:

Winners:

1. Ryu3 (14.95)
2. Yuna (13.10)
3. Violetta (12.07)
4. Van Grants (10.53)

Losers:

5. Sora (10.08)
6. Guido Kandori (10)
7. Cloud of Darkness (9.15)
8. Seymour (8.54)

Out:

9. Virgil (8.27)
10. Rashidi (8.14)
11. Aya Brea (7.5)
12. Lamington (6.05)
13. Zio (5.44)
14. Miguel (4.4)
15. Kuja (2.05)
16. Felix (.78)

Heavy:

Winners:

1. Fei Wong Fong (13.94)
2. Galcian (13.79)
3. Rayquaza (13.76)
4. Lang (12.50)

Losers:

5. Decus (12.35)
6. Lenus (10.08)
7. Alakazam (9.90)
8. Angela (9.67)

Out:

9. Rose (7.38)
10. Arnaud G. Vasquez (7.05)
11. Maxim (6.60)
12. Auron (5.25)
13. Keith Valentine (5.20)
14. Edge Eblan (4.95)
15. Poo (4.07)
16. Aldelbert Steiner (3.77)

Middle:

Winners:

1. Lexis Shaia (12.58)
2. Natalia K.M. Lanvaldear (11.95)
3. Geomancer (11.32)
4. Axl (11.25)

Losers:

5. Ayne (10.67)
6. Zidane Tribal (9.95)
7. Aggron (9.86)
8. Argilla (9.77)

Out:

9. Alexis Lynn Elesius (9.5)
10. Arche Klein (7.31)
11. Jeane (7)
12. Miakis (5.71)
13. Seifer Almasy (5.32)
14. Barret Wallace (4.77)
15. Cecile (4.11)
16. Vaynard (4.08)

Light:

Winners:

1. Luke fon Fabre (13.83)
2. Cleo (12.84)
3. Chuck Preston (10.83)
4. Ace (10.72)

Losers:

5. Lunn (10.59)
6. Reis Dular (10)
7. Zappa (9.67)
8. Malak Galthana (7.21)

Out:

9. Miklotov (7.06)
10. Suzu (6.67)
11. Genius (6.56)
12. Jayle (6.42)
13. Dominia (5.94)
14. Asch (5.76)
15. Rinoa Heartily (4.9)
16. Nicolus (3.67)

Godlike:

Fou-Lu (BoF4)
Kefka (FF6)
TimeLord (Saga)
Benjamin (FFMQ)
Rubicant (FF4)
Chris Lightfellow (S3)
Dhoulmagus (DQ8)
Altima (FFT)
Hrist (VP2)
Elc (AtLC)
Jack Russell (RS)
Rolf Landale (PS2)
Nailah (FE10)
Deis (BoF2)
Ice Queen Avril (WA5)
Ultimecia (FF8)

Heavy:

Zero (MMXCM)
Queen Zeal (CT)
Neifirst (PS2)
Lede (FFT)
Roufas (Saga)
Rofel Wodring (FFT)
Georg Prime (Suikos)
Rufus (VP2)
Ephraim (FE8)
Athos (FE7)
Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
Garan (SH2)
Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
Zapdos (PKMN)
Ernst (S5)
Cait Sith (FF7)

Middle:

Alen (S1)
Karsh (CC)
Maya (LoL2)
Jessica Philomele (MK)
Alice Elliot (SH1)
Noa (LoL)
Colm (FE8)
Dekar (Lufia 2)
Grand Master (FF1)
Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
Blanca (SH2)
Lise (SD3)
Ashton Anchors (SO2)
Carol Anderson (WA5)
Amarant Coral (FF9)
Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)


Light:

Gijimu (S2)
Jet Enduro (WA3)
Suo (VP1)
Tink (Disgaea 2)
Emma Hetfield (ACF)
Lyonesse (Brig)
Andarc (ST)
Dinn (S5)
Miluda Folles (FFT)
Opera Vectra (SO2)
Ernest Ravide (SO2)
Kongol (LoD)
Bazba (S3)
Yukari Takeba (P3)
Ruprehct (SO2)
Rafa Galthana (FFT)
« Last Edit: October 11, 2008, 09:21:13 PM by superaielman »
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2008, 03:54:01 AM »
Godlike:

1. Fou-Lu
2. Kefka
3. TimeLord
4. Elc
5. Rolf
6. Rubicant- Hates fire defense.
7.  Dhoulmagus-
8.  Jack
9.  Chris
10. Benjamin (Feel fairly certain about him in list at least?)
11. Deis
12. Altima
13. Ultimecia
14. Hrist- Oh wow, average speed 2HKO and a borderline turn one stone. Wouldn't even make winners in Heavy. Get out.

Heavy:

1. Neifirst (Godlike)
2. Zero (Nasty offense, plus usual MMXCM cheese)
3. Rofel (Equip breaks+silence.)
4. Lede (Use Hand and some damage for bosses.)
5. Roufas (Can heal like 25 times but is a little on the frail side to magic. Deflect helps against physicals and the damage is damn good.)
6. Georg (Mdef is just too fucking terrible to let him really dominate in Heavy.)
7. Cait Sith (Is held back some by a middling DL weapon. Limits+status is good.)
8. Rufus
9. Queen Zeal
10. Ernst (Nice dueller but is only a good heavy.)
11. Athos (Magic spoiling is nice but he doesn't have much else.)
12. Garan
13. Ephraim (Needs more speed)
14. Johnny (Limit boss in Heavy. Eh.)
15. Alex (Solid Heavy PC but that's it.)

Middle:

1. Noa (Spoilable.. if wind defense+Charm protection wasn't an odd combo.)
2. Dekar (Hates status, generally is very tough to beat otherwise.)
3. Colm (Good damage and evade.)
4. Alen (Awesome but too fire reliant.)
5. Maya (Too many good fighters in Middle.)
6. Ashton (Walls too much status/elemental damage and has a 2HKO.)
7. Grand Master (Just a very solid Middle slugger. Blocking ID and not being wind reliant puts him over Karsh.)
8. Lise (Silence+stat downs. It's a solid combo.)
9. Karsh (Has the usual CC problems with evade and status, but is damn good otherwise.)
10. Blanca (Neat Middle, not all that uber though.)
11. Amarant (FF9 equip stuff plus doom. Bit of a red mage.)
12. Alice (Needs more SP badly.)
13. Scythe (Needs more HP badly.)
14. Bowser (Pure spoiler in Middle.)


Light:

1. Gijimu (Get out of Light.)
2. Jet (Pretty solid.)
3. Dinn (Good Light.)
4. Andarc
5. Rafa
6. Opera (SO2 spoiling plus okay damage.)
7. Ernest
8. Miluda (Very good against fighters but mages and healers are a major problem. Has almost no status defense as well.)
9. Lyonesse (Durability is CRAP, but the rest is solid enough.)
10. Kongol (Speed is CRAP, but the rest is solid enough.)
11. Tink (Is Tink.)
12. Suo (Is Suo.)
13. Bazba (Haaaaaaaaahahaha no)
14. Ruprecht (Check please.)
« Last Edit: October 01, 2008, 07:03:26 PM by superaielman »
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2008, 04:01:40 AM »
Can't actually get to 7 for any division this time. Still listing them.

Godlike:

1. Kefka (FF6) - Lol speed damage status
2. Rubicant (FF4) - Massive damage. Sure, it's all fire, but it's really really good.
3. Ice Queen Avril (WA5) - Not too sure on her, but she's not bad.
4. Chris Lightfellow (S3) - Not bad just... limited.

Heavy:

1. Ephraim (FE8) - Durable and evasive and damaging. And he has counters. And he's... ya know, Ephraim. Having bonus damage on a few enemies here and there doesn't hurt.
2. Athos (FE7) - Not the best on durability, but some fairly versatile magic casting - ITD, parasitic, pure damage. Dangerous.
3. Zapdos (PKMN) - Fast and has some tricks. Mostly lightning damage, but Drill Peck is pretty good anyways.
4. Cait Sith (FF7) - Status could be more accurate. High HP and the healing limit is really good though.

rest later

Middle:

1. Colm (FE8) - Aha Colm getting hit. Crits, and Silencer can come into play pretty easily.
2. Alice Elliot (SH1) - Great defensive game, but has some issues (read - largely screwed) against healers with deeper resources.
3. Carol Anderson (WA5) - Speed + parasitic damage. Good enough.
4. Amarant Coral (FF9) - Good all around stats, with FF9 equips and a few tricks. Toss up with Carol.
5. Bowser Koopa (SMRPG) - Fear. That's it. Better than Grand Master though.
6. Grand Master (FF1) - Really not terrible just... he hits things pretty good, and that's it.

Light:

1. Yukari Takeba (P3) - Eh. Lightning weakness blows, but the damage and durability are good enough and the healing is great.
2. Jet Enduro (WA3) - Fast and can boost his evasion to decent levels. Takes time to get his damage though.
3. Bazba (S3) - Bleh.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2008, 07:10:37 AM by Ultradude »
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2008, 04:05:07 AM »
Godlike:

1) Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2) Kefka (FF6)
3) Rubicant (FF4)
4) Elc (AtLC)
5) Dhoulmagus (DQ8)
6) TimeLord (Saga)
7) Chris Lightfellow (S3)
8) Altima (FFT)
9) Deis (BoF2)
10) Ultimecia (FF8)
11) Hrist (VP2)


Heavy:

1) Lede (FFT)
2) Queen Zeal (CT)
3) Rofel Wodring (FFT)
4) Garan (SH2)
5) Roufas (Saga)
6) Zapdos (PKMN)
7) Zero (MMXCM)
8) Georg Prime (Suikos)
9) Athos (FE7)
10) Ernst (S5)
11) Rufus (VP2)
12) Cait Sith (FF7)
13) Ephraim (FE8)
14) Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
15) Alex (Lunar:SSSC)

Middle:

Not up to it yet.

1) Alen (S1)
2) Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
3) Colm (FE8)
4) Maya (LoL2)
5) Dekar (Lufia 2)
6) Karsh (CC)
7) Blanca (SH2)
8) Alice Elliot (SH1)
9) Amarant Coral (FF9)
10) Lise (SD3)
11) Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)
12) Ashton Anchors (SO2)
13) Grand Master (FF1)


Light:

1) Gijimu (S2)
2) Ruprehct (SO2)
3) Jet Enduro (WA3)
4) Opera Vectra (SO2)
5) Tink (Disgaea 2)
6) Miluda Folles (FFT)
7) Rafa Galthana (FFT)
8) Dinn (S5)
9) Lyonesse (Brig)
10) Bazba (S3)
11) Suo (VP1)
« Last Edit: October 04, 2008, 06:52:36 AM by Monkeyfinger »

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2008, 04:23:02 AM »
Godlike:

1. Kefka (FF6) - Way too much offense and speed. The near-PC level durability isn't too much of an issue, and he even has solid backups when Havoc Wing isn't the best option.
2. Fou-Lu (BoF4) - Crazy good tanking and good damage to back it up. Speed could use work, but oh well.
3. Rubicant (FF4) - The offense is absolutely retarded, and he has the durability to back it up. Speed also doesn't disappoint. Wallability/ice vulnerability are his only problems.
4. TimeLord (Saga) - Kills PCs. Period. And a lot of bosses, too. Since I allow Mystic skills, TL is sorta retarded in general, although, in Godlike, it's just OD or bust. Granted, OD is ridiculous as well with that level of options.
5. Benjamin (FFMQ) - Just covers his bases way too well as a PC. PC killer, solid damage, mocks status, solid durability and speed alongside tons of healing. He's not retarded at anything, just very good at almost all niches and bad at none.
6. Elc (AtLC) - Compared to Benjamin, he's... more gimmicky. Starts faster, but loses out with time, and he suffers from lacking truly good damage (in that he can't even 2HKO average without going through hoops). His resources are finicky as well, in that they also depend on the opponent's to go deep. Considering how he tends to win via stalling, this doesn't always work like a charm.
7. Rolf Landale (PS2) - Um, yeah, pumping out something like 3.2x PC HP in two turns (1.6x~ per turn) off those stats tends to be pretty brutal.
8. Altima (FFT) - Good PC killer, has actual damage backup.
9. Deis (BoF2) - She's a poor Godlike, sadly. The stats and offense are great, though.
10. Chris Lightfellow (S3) - Hard to say, but she's a bit too spoilerish.
11. Hrist (VP2) - Here, we start getting the Heavies. 2HKO damage, good statusblocking and Petrify are neat, but not going anywhere in Godlike without a bigger punch.
12. Dhoulmagus (DQ8) - Honestly, I could flip on Dhouly and Hrist all the time. The speed edge and non-suck status option attached to damage makes up for the extra durability and ability to hit both defensive stats to me today, though (and eh, Dhouly's damage backup is sorta worthless).
13. Ultimecia (FF8) - Eeeeeeeeeew. HP-1, HP and... what else? Ultimecia gets her ass handed to her by your typical Heavy healer. This doesn't work.


Heavy:

1. Athos (FE7) - Borderline Godlike. The draining is awesome and he mocks magic like little else. Speed can be problematic, but the other stats back it up nicely.
2. Lede (FFT) - PC killer extraordinaire with good damage backup. Frail, but hey.
3. Rofel Wodring (FFT) - Quite possibly better at mauling PCs than Lede, and he has some extra spoiling. Even worse against bosses, but them's the breaks. Quite frankly, I think they're very close.
4. Roufas (Saga) - Mind Magic is very wrong in a duel, and Roufas has a nice resource split to let him work his magic, be it via slugfesting, be it via IDing things eventually. Below average speed at first is what hurts him.
5. Georg Prime (Suikos) - Georg is Emily with overkill accuracy, better concrete physical durability and S5 equip cheese. Flipside, he has a lot less speed, his evade is less effective when not against melee and his magical durability is hilariously epic instead of just averagish. Not sure this is a winning trade considering how Emily's speed fixes so many rough patches (as in, this may cost Georg a victory against the likes of Teepo, who Emily coasts against).
6. Zapdos (PKMN) - Strong Heavy. Durable, Agility is great. Accuracy and Thunder reliance are issues, though.
7. Queen Zeal (CT) - PC killer. With the HP and speed, she tends to make it work well in Heavy.
8. Ephraim (FE8) - Evade, damage, counters.
9. Rufus (VP2) - ITE damage attached to status is nice. Durability could use work, though, and he relies on Thunder a bit strongly for my liking.
10. Neifirst (PS2) - A bit below Eph. She isn't too much more durable, and her damage isn't much better. She also entirely lacks the evade, and her own damage is evadable. The speed edge makes this close, but overall not that impressive, she's a middle-range Heavy slugfester.
11. Cait Sith (FF7) - Status, the limit is deadly, FF7 status blockers. He's solid, this List is just pretty high-end in general, though.
12. Ernst (S5) - That first turn is a killjoy for Ernst.
13. Alex (Lunar:SSSC) - Solid enough. The equips help him a lot.
14. Johnny Jones (SMRPG) - He's a Heavy, yeah. Could be better, though, he's probably the only true Low Heavy in this field.


Middle:

1. Noa (LoL) - Weird spoiling combo. Short-term 2HKO off Wind elemental+perfect I win status+good speed+decent statusblockers makes her obnoxious to handle, and definitely not a good idea in Middle. Needs Heavy.
2. Colm (FE8) - Typical FE8 goodness. Dodges, doubles and such.
3. Alen (S1) - Tanky mage with great damage, mitigated a bit by the speed being subpar. Too bad about the elemental wallability, but he tends to beat other fire mages himself. From here, we leave the Heavies and we head onto the Middle/Heavies.
4. Jessica Philomele (MK) - Hmmmm. You know, Silence+timed healing is a nice combo. The timed healing is also a great boon for her to use On-the-Spot synthesis, since it means she can live through the charge times. Not bad at all, and I've elaborated on her other strengths.
5. Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - Speed solves too many issues (makes Scythe have actual offense, for starters), and the limit makes Scythe annoying to deal with in Middle. 70% PC HP isn't as crappy when the division isn't too good at going past average damage. Now, we leave the borderliners and enter the actual Middles.
6. Maya (LoL2) - She's pretty awesome once she gets going, the equips are sexy personified. and the limit range is all sorts of "you die" once she has the AP. Flipside? The durability is goddamned pesky, and being below average speed without a buff to mitigate it makes her way too vulnerable to a blitz 2HKO. Sorta overrated in the past, but she's golden once she gets past those issues.
7. Dekar (Lufia 2) - Eh. Off that abysmal speed score, Dekar can only go so far. Requiring limits to actually do stuff other than boringly hit things and needing turns to do that stuff is damning. Granted, he still can stall well enough.
8. Alice Elliot (SH1) - Spoils physicals well, sure. Just... uhhhhh... dear god, Alice fails against stalling very hardcore.
9. Grand Master (FF1) - Ashton +, actually.
10. Karsh (CC) - GM -, I guess.
11. Lise (SD3) - Lacks damage, and the buffs don't work wonderfully on a non-healer. Silence is how she wins matches more often than not.
12. Ashton Anchors (SO2) - 2HKO! That is sorta inaccurate, fairly easily transformed into a 3HKO, off middle-range equips and really nothing else. Yeah not getting any sympathy from me.
13. Amarant Coral (FF9) - Just... eh. His main boon lies in FF9 elemental nonsense. The damage is okay, the tricks could sorta see some use, just... the package is underwhelming overall, there's nothing that he does that is impressive.
14. Bowser Koopa (SMRPG) - Fear is really badass, but it's all he has. Pity.

Light later.

Light:

1. Gijimu (S2) - The Middle in this field.
2. Jet Enduro (WA3) - Uh I guess. Feels easy to put him this high.
3. Miluda Folles (FFT) - Yeah, 3HKOing off middle-range speed and counters put her high in this list. :psyduck:
4. Kongol (LoD) - And the ID+equips put him high in this list too.
5. Emma Hetfield (ACF) - Too slow and frail. At least, she beats everybody who lets her get two turns and a bunch of people who lets her get one.
6. Dinn (S5) - Too slow and unable to decide matches in one turn.
7. Suo (VP1) - VP equips and 4HKOing. Poor, but could be worse.
8. Rafa Galthana (FFT) - Spoiling. Sucks otherwise.
9. Bazba (S3) - ONE SHOT OF LOW TURN-ONE ID AND FAILURE OTHERWISE YES SUCH A WINNER.
10. Opera Vectra (SO2) - Ew, Suo -. Healing Star sucks.
11. Ernest Ravide (SO2) - Sub-Opera.
12. Lyonesse (Brig) - ... oh wow the durability. The tricks are useless with the durability, and the damage doesn't keep her up with that many resource issues.
13. Ruprecht (SO2) - Failure Wiseman.
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2008, 04:33:55 AM »
Godlike:

1.Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2.Kefka (FF6)
3.TimeLord (Saga)
4.Jack Russell (RS)
5.Dhoulmagus (DQ8)
6.Rubicant (FF4)
7.Elc (AtLC)
8.Deis (BoF2)
9.Nailah (FE10)
10.Chris Lightfellow (S3)
11.Altima (FFT)
12.Ultimecia (FF8)

Heavy:

1.Lede (FFT)
2.Queen Zeal (CT)
3.Garan (SH2)
4.Roufas (Saga)
5.Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
5.Rofel Wodring (FFT)
6.Athos (FE7)
7.Zapdos (PKMN)
8.Ephraim (FE8)
9.Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
10.Ernst (S5)
11.Cait Sith (FF7)

Middle:

1.Alice Elliot (SH1)
2.Dekar (Lufia 2)
3.Colm (FE8)
4.Grand Master (FF1)
5.Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
6.Blanca (SH2)
7.Amarant Coral (FF9)
8.Ashton Anchors (SO2)
9.Karsh (CC)
10.Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)
11.Carol Anderson (WA5)



Light:

1.Yukari Takeba (P3)
2.Opera Vectra (SO2)
3.Emma Hetfield (ACF)
4.Dinn (S5)
5.Jet Enduro (WA3)
6.Suo (VP1)
7.Miluda Folles (FFT)
8.Ernest Ravide (SO2)
9.Ruprehct (SO2)
10.Rafa Galthana (FFT)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2008, 04:49:09 AM »
Godlike
1. Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2. Kefka (FF6)
3. TimeLord (SaGa)
4. Jack Russell (RS)
5. Dhoulmagus (DQ8)
6. Chris Lightfellow (S3)
7. Rolf Landale (PS2)
8. Ice Queen Avril (WA5)
9. Deis (BoF2)
10. Rubicant (FF4)
11. Altima (FFT)
12. Ultimecia (FF8)
13. Hrist (VP2)

Heavy
1. Queen Zeal (CT)
2. Lede (FFT)
3. Zero (MMXCM)
4. Roufas (SaGa)
5. Neifirst (PS2)
6. Georg Prime (Suikos)
7. Athos (FE7)
8. Garan (SH2)
9. Ephraim (FE8)
10. Rufus (VP2)
11. Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
12. Alex (Lunar: SSSC)
13. Rofel Wodring (FFT)
14. Cait Sith (FF7)
15. Ernst (S5)
16. Zapdos (PKMN)

Middle
1. Ashton Anchors (SO2)
2. Dekar (Lufia 2)
3. Alice Elliot (SH1)
4. Carol Anderson (WA5)
5. Colm (FE8)
6. Lise (SD3)
7. Karsh (CC)
8. Blanca (SH2)
9. Amarant Coral (FF9)
10. Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
11. Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)
12. Alen (S1)
13. Grand Master (FF1)

Light
1. Jet Enduro (WA3)
2. Opera Vectra (SO2)
3. Lyonesse (Brig)
4. Gijimu (S2)
5. Dinn (S5)
6. Suo (VP1)
7. Ruprehct (SO2)
8. Bazba (S3)
9. Ernest Ravide (SO2)
10. Emma Hetfield (ACF)
11. Tink (Disgaea 2)
12. Miluda Folles (FFT)
13. Rafa Galthana (FFT)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2008, 04:54:46 AM »
Godlike
1 Fou Lu
2 Kefka. Barely beats out the next two.
3 Rubicant. Similar to Kefka, but more spoilable.
4 Jack. Loses on variety on think. Otherwise, this the range of slightly above average speed nearing 2 PC HP damage club.
5 TimeLord
6 Elc
7 Ice Queen Avril
8 Hrist. Go boss Hrist with your solid damage, limit, speed, evade, and speed.
9 Benjamin
10 Rolf. Lack of variety hurts.
11 Chris. Can do some spoiling, sometimes.
12 Altima. Good against some PCs.
13 Deis 2. Beats some PCs, I guess. Issues with bosses.
14 Dhoulmagus
15 Ultimecia. Yeah…kind of hard to even respect that HP to 1.


Heavy
1 Neifirst. Really fast, 2 PC HP, 65% damage. Nothing is truly overpowered, but the package is just a lot for Heavy.
2 Garan. Solid respect for the durability+Magic immunity+Kills MP reliant fighters+Solid Magical and Physical Stuff.
3 Zero. Hits very hard very quickly. Decent status blockers too.
4 Lede
5 Georg. Mdef does hold him back a tad
6 Zeal. Pretty solid at offing some PCs.
7 Roufas.
8 Cait. Solid status/limit healing, but the damage lets him down here.
9 Rufus. Kind of feels like Arnaud in that if he had healing, all parts of his game would be taken to the next level. Solid all around (Damage, Status, Equips, Buffs) but none of it feels potent enough to get him higher.
10 Ernst. Gets some PCs on turn 2/nice draining game starts then too. Rose remixed.
11 Zapdos. Has the damage, but he’s wallable.
12 Johnny. The durability is nice, but below average speed+can’t 2HKO average just doesn’t seem that great in Heavy.
13 Alex. Firey average speed 2HKO, or can buff his physical to do similar stuff. His MP as always sinks him too quickly.
14 Athos. No Nosferatu. The magic spoiling gets him above Eph.
15 Ephraim. Hates his caps. Also hates Killer Averages, because that shiny S sword of his is basically equivalent to a killer average-wise.

Middle
1 Noa. Quick with a status that most of Middle doesn’t block. If that wasn’t enough, she’s quite solid when it is blocked anyways. Nice status blockers too.
2 Dekar. Status works to take him out, but nothing else really. Will not be outslugged.
3 Colm. Same as above, but easier to outslug.
4 Jessica. Timed healing is great, Donor Bomb is damage that doesn’t eat MP, 75% Silence for some other mages, Status resistance. Works as a package.
5 Maya. Good healer, but the speed+HP hold her back some.
6 Alice. Pdur tanking is nice, but also healers do give her some issues. Would be higher, but also can have MP issues. Could flip with Maya.
7 Carol. Life Drain is awesome.
8 Scythe. Nice ID trick, although giving up that first turn does him some (Certainly means that if that ID trick doesn’t work, he’s a lot worse off).
9 Amarant. Lots of neat little tricks that make him quirky, if not horribly powerful. Still, elemental walling/some status res/moderate status, damage, and healing all works enough to get him this high.
10 Blanca. If Colorful Comb actually did anything, this would be different.
11 Alen. 2HKOs a tad slowly, but defensive stats are nice. Openings to status holds him back a little though.
12 Ashton. 130% damage over two turns off average speed. No real elemental resists, or any other skills.
13 Karsh. Close between him and Ashton. Karsh does have some magic damage, but less solid 2HKO and a bit slower.
14 Lise. Lise. Can get some non-Silence immune mages. Buffs…gut is that the defensive ones just aren’t good enough.
15 Bowser. Fear is nice…but he can’t deal that well with most healers or with 55% damage off average speed. Feels like Ashton/Karsh can deal with some of these people
16 Grand Master. Look, it’s slow Ashton who is raped by magic and status!


Light
1 Bazba. Usually getting that ID off to me (in Light)! Could be lower if it wasn’t for that Pdur.
2 Andarc. Solid physical and magical, as well as decent durability (for a mage). ST panels are evil. Throw in Counterattack to put a lot of pressure on fighters, and Stun has some uses too.
3 Gijimu. Solid low Middle slugger.
4 Dinn. Wall of defense and elemental resistance.
5 Jet. Nice turn 3 killing off above average speed.
6 Kongol. Could be lower, but 3x PC Pdur in Light is just evil.
7 Miluda. Might be better against mages than Kongol, but I think she’s just too much worse against fighters (Thanks to things like range or techs and such).
8 Opera. Guess Healing Star is worth a little more than all Ernest’s pluses.
9 Ernest. 4HKOs, but some evasion/Broken Heart comes off quickly/accurate/elemental resists.
10 Emma. Too much gap on being beaten by average for her, I think. They can lose 20% of the damage, 15% of the speed, and a hell of a lot of the HP. Or all of it combined. Still, if not, her trick is very fatal, which boosts her a little.
11 Rafa. Having 10% less HP than Malak as well as 1 point less of speed hurts a lot.
12 Yukari. Thanks to her HP, her has issues with someone who is completely average. Lightning makes her explode, though, which makes her below people who don’t fully deal with average.
13 Suo. Meh. Almost 3HKOs, good HP.
14 Tink. I fought for people to see him as a solid Light! But he’s no more than solid. Him versus Suo is damn close, but in the end Tink 80% HP holds him back, even his damage on turn 3 is 10% better than Suo’s.
15 Lyonesse. Without more concrete Charm numbers, she has a low 2HKO (like 51%) that comes off slowly and just bad HP.
16 Ruprecht. Why keep using these losers. Low 6HKO off meh durability. Winnar.
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2008, 06:59:43 AM »
Godlike:

1. Kefka (FF6): Close between 1 and 2, but I gutcheck for offence over defence as a rule.
2. Fou-Lu (BoF4)
3. Rubicant (FF4): Clearly #3. Owning slugging.
4. Ice Queen Avril (WA5): At this point there's a significant dropoff in quality, but IQA still clearly takes this spot.
5. Nailah (FE10): Isn't that great a Godlike, but the stats are just ridiculous, even if she's 1-D.
6. Altima (FFT): Decent HP and status. Honestly I may be underrating her due to "lol Altima".
7. Chris Lightfellow (S3): Spoiler mostly, but decent at it.
8. Deis (BoF2): Slugger. Guess she makes Godlike.
9. Hrist (VP2): Probably more of a High Heavy?
10. Dhoulmagus (DQ8): Heavy. Isn't especially notably good at anything.
11. Ultimecia (FF8): Heavy. Dhoulmagus with a worse PC-killing arsenal and even less damage. Oh boy.

Heavy:

1. Athos (FE7): Still loads of respect for the drain game. Plus, near magic immunity.
2. Zero (MMXCM): Hyper Mode is hax, but he does need to get that first turn badly.
3. Rofel Wodring (FFT): Hmm, some spoiling puts him ahead of Lede.
4. Lede (FFT)
5. Georg Prime (Suikos): Emily with better accuracy and elemental resists... but only like 110% speed instead of 150. That hurts. Still a nasty Heavy.
6. Queen Zeal (CT): Inferior PC killer to the FFT dudes.
7. Ephraim (FE8): Evade and damage.
8. Zapdos (PKMN): Buffs and damage.
9. Rufus (VP2): Status and damage.
10. Cait Sith (FF7): Status, great blockers, and healing. Actually, he's... reasonably solid. I initially kneejerked him second last, but on second thought...
11. Ernst (S5): The warmup turn hurts, since he lacks S5 equips.
12. Alex (Lunar:SSSC): Can kinda hold his own in the division, elemental resists help.
13. Johnny Jones (SMRPG): Is a Heavy, just not too impressive.
14. Garan (SH2): Sub-PC HP, below average speed 3HKO. No amount of spoiling excuses that in Heavy.


Middle:

1. Colm (FE8): Well this is easy. Doubling most things gives him a high 2HKO, evade basically gives him 2PC durability (worse against ITE, but it gets status). This is Heavy.
2. Alen (S1): Was really impressed with just how good his defence is. Walling fire doesn't really slow him down, either.
3. Scythe Riebauer (WA4): Normally I don't respect limit bosses, but Scythe really puts on loads of pressure so he gets away with it just a little.
4. Carol Anderson (WA5): Life Drain and status immunity are cool tricks.
5. Maya (LoL2): Scythe's durability (and also gets better below half HP!) with a worse battle strategy. Too vulnerable to that blitz-2HKO, though once she gets past it she's golden.
6. Alice Elliot (SH1): Runs out of SP too easily.
7. Blanca (SH2): See above. Harder to heal-lock due to speed... yet easier to heal-lock due to no physical halving. I think Alice ultimately comes out ahead, guarding two elements and Gospel as an option help.
8. Grand Master (FF1): Nice strong 2HKO with no real downsides is always nice in Middle.
9. Dekar (Lufia 2): Too slow to really make his game work, but he's durable at least.
10. Karsh (CC): 2HKOs, but less solidly than Grand Master and slower.
11. Lise (SD3): Has some tricks, like silence. Needs better raw damage though.
12. Ashton Anchors (SO2): Faster Karsh with some blockers, but no real damage control and it doesn't take much evade at all to mess him up.
13. Amarant Coral (FF9): I guess element walling lets him beat Bowser. Don't respect the healing or the Doom.
14. Bowser Koopa (SMRPG): Was in Light for a reason, even if he was too good for the division.


Light:

1. Gijimu (S2): Smashy.
2. Jet Enduro (WA3): JET! Seriously, though, solid enough here.
3. Kongol (LoD): TANK.
4. Miluda Folles (FFT): Counter gets her pretty high in this field.
5. Emma Hetfield (ACF): See Dinn, but she beats a few people turn 1 and everyone turn 2, which is more than he can claim, even though she's much frailer.
6. Dinn (S5): Generally see him as too slow to accomplish much.
711. Bazba (S3): Oh boy, slow, easily resistable ID. Guess it gets him somewhere, tough.
8. Rafa Galthana (FFT): Uhhh something like this.
9. Suo (VP1): Decent 4HKOer, but still that.
10. Opera Vectra (SO2): I... gah. But yeah, low respect for Healing Star ensures this. Worse blockers than Suo.
11. Ernest Ravide (SO2): What little respect I have for Healing Star means Ernest is still worse.
12. Lyonesse (Brig): Very frail, not impressed by offence or tricks.
13. Ruprehct (SO2): Oh hey, last place.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2008, 04:26:15 AM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2008, 07:20:36 AM »
Godlike:

1. Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2. Kefka (FF6)
3. TimeLord (Saga)
4. Rubicant (FF4)
5. Altima (FFT)
6. Benjamin (FFMQ)
7. Deis (BoF2)
8. Elc (AtLC)

Heavy:

1. Athos (FE7)
2. Lede (FFT)
3. Rofel Wodring (FFT)
4. Ephraim (FE8)
5. Roufas (Saga)
6. Queen Zeal (CT)
7. Zapdos (PKMN)
8. Cait Sith (FF7)
9. Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
10. Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
11. Georg Prime (Suikos)

Middle:

1. Noa (LoL)
2. Colm (FE8)
3. Dekar (Lufia 2)
4. Amarant Coral (FF9)
5. Alen (S1)
6. Karsh (CC)
7. Ashton Anchors (SO2)
8. Lise (SD3)
9. Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)
10. Grand Master (FF1)

Light:

1. Gijimu (S2)
2. Opera Vectra (SO2)
3. Lyonesse (Brig)
4. Kongol (LoD)
5. Miluda Folles (FFT)
6. Suo (VP1)
7. Ernest Ravide (SO2)
8. Rafa Galthana (FFT)
9. Ruprehct (SO2)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2008, 06:33:28 PM »
Godlike:

1. Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2. Kefka (FF6)
3. TimeLord (Saga)
4. Rolf Landale (PS2)
5. Rubicant (FF4)
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6. Altima (FFT)
7. Nailah (FE10)
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8. Hrist (VP2)
9 Ultimecia (FF8)
10. Chris Lightfellow (S3)
11. Deis (BoF2)
12. Dhoulmagus (DQ8)


Heavy:

1.   Queen Zeal (CT)
2.   Athos (FE7)
3.   Roufas (Saga)
4.   Lede (FFT)
5.   Rofel Wodring (FFT)
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6.   Ephraim (FE8)
7.   Zapdos (PKMN)
8.   Rufus (VP2)
9.   Georg Prime (Suikos)
10.   Cait Sith (FF7)
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11.   Garan (SH2)
12.   Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
13.   Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
14.   Ernst (S5)

Middle:

1.   Alice Elliot (SH1)
2.   Karsh (CC)
3.   Amarant Coral (FF9)
4.   Colm (FE8)
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5.   Alen (S1)
6.   Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
7.   Blanca (SH2)
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8.   Dekar (Lufia 2)
9.   Ashton Anchors (SO2)
10.   Lise (SD3)
11.   Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)
12.   Grand Master (FF1)


Light:


1.   Gijimu (S2)
2.   Dinn (S5)
3.   Bazba (S3)
4.   Jet Enduro (WA3)
5.   Andarc (ST)
6.   Miluda Folles (FFT)
7.   Rafa Galthana (FFT)
8.   Lyonesse (Brig)
9.   Suo (VP1)
10.   Ruprehct (SO2)
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2008, 08:12:08 PM »
Godlike:

1. TimeLord (Saga)
2. Rubicant (FF4)
3. Chris Lightfellow (S3)
4. Elc (AtLC)
5. Deis (BoF2)
6. Ice Queen Avril (WA5) - I guess? I'm not really sure exactly where I see her right now.
7. Benjamin (FFMQ)
8. Dhoulmagus (DQ8)
9. Altima (FFT)
10. Fou-Lu (BoF4)
11. Kefka (FF6)

Heavy:

1. Garan (SH2)
2. Queen Zeal (CT)
3. Lede (FFT)
4. Rofel Wodring (FFT)
5. Roufas (Saga) - Brutal field so far.
6. Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
7. Georg Prime (Suikos)
8. Ephraim (FE8)
9. Athos (FE7)
10. Cait Sith (FF7)

More later.

Middle:

1. Grand Master (FF1)
2. Alen (S1)
3. Maya (LoL2)
4. Jessica Philomele (MK)
5. Alice Elliot (SH1)
6. Noa (LoL)
7. Dekar (Lufia 2)
8. Ashton Anchors (SO2)
9. Blanca (SH2)
10. Colm (FE8)
11. Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
12. Carol Anderson (WA5)
13. Amarant Coral (FF9)


Light:

1. Gijimu (S2)
2. Emma Hetfield (ACF)
3. Lyonesse (Brig)
4. Suo (VP1)
5. Tink (Disgaea 2)
6. Miluda Folles (FFT)
7. Opera Vectra (SO2)
8. Ernest Ravide (SO2)
9. Ruprehct (SO2)
10. Rafa Galthana (FFT)
11. Jet Enduro (WA3)
12. Bazba (S3)
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2008, 02:03:54 AM »
Godlike:
1. Kefka (FF6) - Speed + offense. He has boat loads of both.
2. Rubicant (FF4) - Being walled seems like his only real problem. Otherwise, he trades off some speed to be more durable (although Ice weak) and brings an equal level of offense.
3. Ice Queen Avril (WA5) - Pretty solid. Nice damage/Speed. PC killing trick to round it off.
4. Altima (FFT) - Not too bad I want to say. Durability is always a mess, but Altima has a couple of nasty tricks here.
5. Nailah (FE10) - Fire weakness is argh. Still the stats are crazy. Needs more variety though
6. Hrist (VP2) - And Heavy! Lest you allow Gungnir.
7. Ultimecia (FF8) - lol ulti. HP --> 1, slow and undamaging! BUT GODLEIKS HPS

Heavy:
1. Athos (FE7) - Nosferatu + stats + ability to wield other stuff like Luna is just ow. Then he has MEGA RES to ward off some status too
2. Lede (FFT) - PC killing, above average speed and some damage to boot
3. Rofel Wodring (FFT) - PC killing. Gains some magic options, Defense UP, but loses out on speed. Probably a losing trade
4. Zero (MMXCM) - Lots of damage + Hyper mode. Just that lacks that little something to make him break past the PC killers.
5. Georg Prime (Suikos) - S5 Georg. Insane damage off above average speed. That Mdef is hilariously bad though
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6. Zapdos (PKMN) - Different tier of heavy. But Agility/Thunder Wave is nice. Gaining things like Metal Sound in XD and the natural pain of Thunder is also good. Accuracy issues as already pointed out.
7. Rufus (VP2) - Status + damage off ITE and ITD. Ouch. He hates being walled though and relies a lot on Thunder damage to do his work.
8. Ephraim (FE8) - Damage + evasion. A little one dimensional, but his raw bases is impressive
9. Cait Sith (FF7) - Lethal status off an unusual resistance. That + and an actual healing limit that works.
10. Ernst (S5) - Needs to not give up his first turn
11. Johnny Jones (SMRPG) - Needs to not kind of fail before limit phase.

Middle:
1. Colm (FE8) - Leads this pack I think. His damage + speed + evasion is difficult for most middles to handle
2. Carol Anderson (WA5) - WA5 speed medium + potential status immunity + parasitic healing. Of course, how much of that speed/immunity/healing depends on WA5 interp. Which is a mess. But the potential and package is good.
3. Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - Wishes he didn't give auto initiative to his enemies. Otherwise, fast and 3HKOs. Usually gets it. Limit phase is kind of pointless since if enemies can't kill him in one shot, they usually can't kill before he kills them back. Still having it is a boon. Thankfully, LPs don't apply to him
4. Jessica Philomele (MK) - Healer. Time card healing makes her an interesting variety and the status is neat too. Needs more damage/durability though
5. Alice Elliot (SH1) - Healer Mk.2. Loses the status, gains Pdef? Not certain on this, but IIRC she was a little bit more wallable than Jess
6. Karsh (CC) - Very solid CCer
7. Amarant Coral (FF9) - Kind of bad. FF9 equips save him some. His specials are kind of neat, albeit largely wasted. Status being there saves him.
8. Bowser Koopa (SMRPG) - Slow and relies on Fear. Block that and he's in trouble.

Gut shot for 2-5 mainly. Could see movement there.

Light:
1. Dinn (S5) - S5 equips + solid stats for Light
2. Jet Enduro (WA3) - Has some speed! And some accuracy! Heavy he is not. A good light though? Sure
3. Yukari Takeba (P3) - Wishes her weakness was inverted. Aside from that...durability isn't so good, but her damage doesn't totally fail. And lots and lots of healing means that if you can't hit weakness or 2HKO reliably, you're in trouble. AND she might still out resource.
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4. Suo (VP1) - Is Suo. At least has HP and a finisher to break past weaker lights
5. Rafa Galthana (FFT) - Is Rafa. At least has awkward parasitic healing + FFT equips.
6. Miluda Folles (FFT) - Status holes and being complete mage bait probably isn't good.
7. Emma Hetfield (ACF) - The stats are just so bad. Admitedly, bottom 4 here are all around the same failure level.




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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2008, 11:44:47 PM »
What the hell, I can vote on a division.

1. Lede (FFT) - Just really damned good at PC killing.  A bit too good for most of the Heavy ones, and quite a few lower Godlikes.
2. Athos (FE7) - Nos is great, especially in a long fight.  Non-res check status gives him issues, though.
3. Rofel Wodring (FFT) - Really brutal anti-physical defenses, but has issues dealing damage to bosses.  Dependent on status against mages, he's easily blitzed if they can block silence or have piles of magic defense/evade.
4. Roufas (Saga) - Gunner in the DL for me... he's basically a fast, very potent buffer-healer.
5. Queen Zeal (CT) - Doesn't really impress me anymore.  Still better than the mediocre Heavies below.
6. Ephraim (FE8) - Really good stats all around, but doesn't standout in anything.
7. Zapdos (PKMN) - Has issues with magic evade and lightning resist.  Doesn't get much out of Agility in the DL, much like in-game.
8. Johnny Jones (SMRPG) - Just a low Heavy to me.

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2008, 01:39:28 AM »
Godlike:
1 Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2 Ice Queen Avril (WA5)
3 Elc (AtLC)
4 Kefka (FF6)
5 Rolf Landale (PS2) - spamable overkill damage works.
6 Chris Lightfellow (S3) - shuts down anyone who's not a physical slugger. Spoilable. Durable enough to be a Healer-type in Godlike.
7 TimeLord (Saga) - crazy Overdrive respect.
8 Nailah (FE10)
9 Jack Russell (RS)
10 Benjamin (FFMQ)
11 Rubicant (FF4) - Too elementally reliant
12 Dhoulmagus (DQ8)
13 Hrist (VP2)
14 Ultimecia (FF8)

Heavy:

1 Athos (FE7)
2 Neifirst (PS2)
3 Roufas (Saga)
4 Rufus (VP2)
5 Georg Prime (Suikos)
6 Ephraim (FE8)
7 Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
8 Cait Sith (FF7)
9 Queen Zeal (CT)
10 Zapdos (PKMN)
11 Ernst (S5)

Middle:

1 Noa (LoL) - Could be Heavy.
2 Ashton Anchors (SO2) - Claudelike, plus Tri-Ace.
3 Carol Anderson (WA5)
4 Colm (FE8)
5 Jessica Philomele (MK)
6 Alice Elliot (SH1)
7 Dekar (Lufia 2) - Good everything, but just so damn slow.
8 Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
9 Blanca (SH2)
10 Amarant Coral (FF9)
11 Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)
12 Grand Master (FF1)
13 Alen (S1) - More like a high Light to me.
14 Karsh (CC) - same.


Light:

1 Opera Vectra (SO2)
2 Kongol (LoD)
3 Jet Enduro (WA3)
4 Dinn (S5)
5 Lyonesse (Brig)
6 Andarc (ST)
7 Ernest Ravide (SO2)
8 Yukari Takeba (P3)
9 Suo (VP1)
10 Ruprehct (SO2)
11 Bazba (S3)
12 Gijimu (S2)
13 Tink (Disgaea 2)
14 Emma Hetfield (ACF) - awesome, but will -never- live to get a turn!

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2008, 05:10:29 PM »
*whaps* I need more votes!
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2008, 06:44:30 PM »
Godlike:

1. Fou Lu
2. Jack (allow him to use items :P)
3. Elc
4. Timelord
5. Kefka
6. Rubicant
7. Dhoulmagus
8. Benjamin
9. Rolf
10. Ultimecia
11. Chris
12. Altima
13. Deis
14. Nailah (she's a godlike?  only if you scale her to Micaiahs group >_>)

Heavy: I dont remember Garan and Johnny enough to rank them.

1. Lede
2. Zeal
3. Roufas
4. Ernst
5. Georg
6. Athos
7. Alex
8. Rofel
9. Zapdos
10. Ephraim (not really a good heavy)
11. Cait Sith (not really a heavy at all

Middle:

1. Jessica
2. Blanca
*giant gap* (yes I only respect two middles here >_>)
3. Alen
4. Karsh
5. Ashton
6. Colm
7. Dekar
8. Grand Master
9. Amarant
10, Bowser


Light:


Suo (VP1)
Bazba (S3)
Ruprehct (SO2)


1. Yukari takeba
2. Gijimu
3. Opera (I have lots of wierd respect for her, plus this pool is WEAK)
4. Dinn
5. Andarc
6. Emma (only gets this high because of her cool skillset)
7. Ernest (cloud dust hype?)
8. Miluda
9. Tink
10, Kongol
11. Rafa
12. Suo
13. Bazba
14. Ruprecht (though Ruprecht is better than Nicolas at least)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2008, 11:04:25 PM »
Godlike:

1. Fou-Lu (BoF4): Generally covers all his bases as a boss. Wanted speed... I guess he's vulnerable to overkill NE magic?
2. Kefka (FF6): Offense beats things out. Very durable PCs with overkill damage beat him, but he's mostly just losing to good Godlike slugger bosses.
3. Ice Queen Avril (WA5): Essentially an auto-win vs. PCs, and can take down some slugger bosses.
4. TimeLord (Saga): Still gotta respect Auto-win vs. PCs, even if it is obnoxious.
5. Rubicant (FF4): The offense is too much. Being wholely reliant on fire is a big weakness though.
6. Elc (AtLC): Just covers bases really well. Can play hardball with Godlike's slugfesting bosses to a degree few other PCs can, and isn't bad at taking down PCs.
7. Jack Russell (RS): Big damage and a few other things will get you far, but not far enough.
8. Benjamin (FFMQ): PC who covers all his bases, but can't deal with Godlike slugger bosses.
9. Chris Lightfellow (S3): The lack of great speed on Silent Lake is painful. Still a cool spoiler type.
10. Altima (FFT): Lots of tricks, good damage... decentish speed I suppose. I probably have her/it too low here but its hard to build respect for the durability. Other slugfesting bosses tend to be superior.
11. Deis (BoF2): BoF2 specifically? Meh. Shed, speed, ID. The damage isn't Godlike and she just lacks that "oomph". Not sure how BoF1 fares here...
12. Hrist (VP2): Good damage, I guess? Boss form or something?
13. Dhoulmagus (DQ8): Meh. Low end slugger boss.
14. Ultimecia (FF8): Durable! Loses to healers. You shouldn't be losing to healer PCs if you are a Godlike boss.

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Heavy:

Zero (MMXCM)
Queen Zeal (CT)
Neifirst (PS2)
Lede (FFT)
Roufas (Saga)
Rofel Wodring (FFT)
Georg Prime (Suikos)
Rufus (VP2)
Ephraim (FE8)
Athos (FE7)
Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
Garan (SH2)
Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
Zapdos (PKMN)
Ernst (S5)
Cait Sith (FF7)

Middle:

Alen (S1)
Karsh (CC)
Maya (LoL2)
Jessica Philomele (MK)
Alice Elliot (SH1)
Noa (LoL)
Colm (FE8)
Dekar (Lufia 2)
Grand Master (FF1)
Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
Blanca (SH2)
Lise (SD3)
Ashton Anchors (SO2)
Carol Anderson (WA5)
Amarant Coral (FF9)
Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)


Light:

Gijimu (S2)
Jet Enduro (WA3)
Suo (VP1)
Tink (Disgaea 2)
Emma Hetfield (ACF)
Lyonesse (Brig)
Andarc (ST)
Dinn (S5)
Miluda Folles (FFT)
Opera Vectra (SO2)
Ernest Ravide (SO2)
Kongol (LoD)
Bazba (S3)
Yukari Takeba (P3)
Ruprehct (SO2)
Rafa Galthana (FFT)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2008, 01:59:46 PM »
Godlike:

1. Fou-Lu (BoF4)
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2. Rubicant (FF4)
3. Kefka (FF6)
4. Altima (FFT)
5. Hrist (VP2)
6. Ultimecia (FF8)
7. Deis (BoF2)

Heavy:

1. Queen Zeal (CT)
2. Zapdos (PKMN)
3. Lede (FFT)
4. Rofel Wodring (FFT)
5. Ephraim (FE8)
6. Rufus (VP2)
7. Athos (FE7)
8. Cait Sith (FF7)
9. Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
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10. Georg Prime (Suikos)

Middle:

1. Noa (LoL)
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2. Colm (FE8)
3. Ashton Anchors (SO2)
4. Grand Master (FF1)
5. Amarant Coral (FF9)
6. Alice Elliot (SH1)
7. Alen (S1)
8. Lise (SD3)
9. Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)


Light:

1. Opera Vectra (SO2)
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2. Gijimu (S2)
3. Tink (Disgaea 2)
4. Ernest Ravide (SO2)
5. Miluda Folles (FFT)
6. Ruprecht (SO2)
7. Suo (VP1)
8. Rafa Galthana (FFT)
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2008, 02:42:02 PM »
Godlike:

1. Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2. Kefka (FF6)
3. Rubicant (FF4)
4. Ice Queen Avril (WA5)
5. TimeLord (Saga)
6. Altima (FFT)- I dunno, feeling Altima HP more recently.
7. Nailah (FE10)
8. Jack Russell (RS)
9. Deis (BoF2)
10. Chris Lightfellow (S3)
11. Hrist (VP2)
12. Dhoulmagus (DQ8)
13. Ultimecia (FF8)

Heavy:

1. Zero (MMXCM)
2. Lede (FFT)
3. Athos (FE7)
4. Rofel Wodring (FFT)
5. Roufas (Saga)
6. Georg Prime (Suikos)
7. Rufus (VP2)
8. Queen Zeal (CT)
9. Ernst (S5)
10. Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
11. Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
12. Cait Sith (FF7)
13. Zapdos (PKMN)
14. Ephraim (FE8)
15. Garan (SH2)


Middle:

1. Alen (S1)
2. Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
3. Maya (LoL2)
4. Alice Elliot (SH1)
5. Colm (FE8)
6. Dekar (Lufia 2)
7. Karsh (CC)
8. Carol Anderson (WA5)
9. Grand Master (FF1)
10. Blanca (SH2)
11. Amarant Coral (FF9)
12. Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)


Light:

1. Yukari Takeba (P3)
2. Andarc (ST)
3. Gijimu (S2)
4. Jet Enduro (WA3)
5. Emma Hetfield (ACF)
6. Kongol (LoD)
7. Lyonesse (Brig)
8. Dinn (S5)
9. Miluda Folles (FFT)
10. Rafa Galthana (FFT)
11. Suo (VP1)
12. Tink (Disgaea 2)
13. Bazba (S3)
14. Ruprehct (SO2)
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2008, 10:45:06 PM »
Godlike:

1 - Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2 - Kefka (FF6)
3 - Rubicant (FF4)
4 - Hrist (VP2)
5 - Dhoulmagus (DQ8)
6 - Ultimecia (FF8)

Heavy:

1 - Georg Prime (Suikos)
2 - Rufus (VP2)
3 - Zapdos (PKMN)
4 - Garan (SH2)
5- Cait Sith (FF7)
6 - Queen Zeal (CT)
7 - Ernst (S5)

Middle:

1) Alice Elliot (SH1)
2) Ashton Anchors (SO2)
3) Blanca (SH2)
4) Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
5) Karsh (CC)
6) Amarant Coral (FF9)
7) Lise (SD3)

Light:

1) Yukari Takeba (P3)
2) Andarc (ST)
3) Jet Enduro (WA3)
4) Opera Vectra (SO2)
5) Ernest Ravide (SO2)
6) Dinn (S5)
7) Kongol (LoD)
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2008, 01:17:58 AM »
super, you need to spell check.  >.>

Godlike:

1) Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2) TimeLord (Saga)
3) Benjamin (FFMQ)
4) Hrist (VP2)
5) Elc (AtLC)
6) Nailah (FE10)
7) Deis (BoF2)
8) Rubicant (FF4)
9) Chris Lightfellow (S3)
10) Ice Queen Avril (WA5)
11) Kefka (FF6)
12) Ultimecia (FF8)
13) Dhoulmagus (DQ8)
14) Altima (FFT)

Heavy:

1) Athos (FE7)
2) Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
3) Rufus (VP2)
4) Ephraim (FE8)
5) Cait Sith (FF7)
6) Georg Prime (Suikos)
7) Zapdos (PKMN)
8) Johnny Jones (SMRPG)
9) Ernst (S5)
10) Garan (SH2)
11) Lede (FFT)
12) Rofel Wodring (FFT)
13) Roufas (Saga)
14) Queen Zeal (CT)

Middle:

1) Noa (LoL)
2) Carol Anderson (WA5)
3) Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
4) Dekar (Lufia 2)
5) Maya (LoL2)
6) Jessica Philomele (MK)
7) Amarant Coral (FF9)
8) Bowser Koopa (SMRPG)
9) Alice Elliot (SH1)
10) Blanca (SH2)
11) Colm (FE8)
12) Ashton Anchors (SO2)
13) Grand Master (FF1)
14) Alen (S1)
15) Karsh (CC)

Light:

1) Gijimu (S2)
2) Andarc (ST)
3) Yukari Takeba (P3)
4) Opera Vectra (SO2)
5) Kongol (LoD)
6) Rafa Galthana (FFT)
7) Miluda Folles (FFT)
8) Ernest Ravide (SO2)
9) Emma Hetfield (ACF)
10) Bazba (S3)
11) Jet Enduro (WA3)
12) Dinn (S5)
13) Tink (Disgaea 2)
14) Suo (VP1)
15) Ruprehct (SO2)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2008, 01:30:04 AM »
Going to start counting this saturday. Get your votes in and finish up your pools.
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2008, 02:49:17 AM »
France (Godlike):

1. Elc (AtLC)
2. Kefka (FF6)
3. Benjamin (FFMQ)
4. Ice Queen Avril (WA5)
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mad Cow Tier
5. Rubicant (FF4) - Needs more leg. Not enough leg.
6. Rolf Landale (PS2) - The worst possible type of "instawin".
7. Deis (BoF2) - Sadly SNES BoF bores me too much to inspire insulting the duelers.
8. Ultimecia (FF8) - KURSE KO
9. Altima (FFT) - Needs the other two A's to do anything
10. Dhoulmagus (DQ8) - Doubleacts laugh.

aiel's linen closet (Heavy):

1. Zero (MMXCM) - FFFFFOOOOOORRRRR?!?!?!
2. Neifirst (PS2) - FIGHTING
3. Lede (FFT) - I
------------------------------------------- Tier of Hard Knocks
4. Zapdos (PKMN) - AM
5. Athos (FE7) - WHAT
6. Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
7. Rofel Wodring (FFT)
8. Queen Zeal (CT)
------------------------------------------- The Special Tier
9. Ephraim (FE8)
10. Cait Sith (FF7) - BIG PUFFY MOOGLE OF DEATH
11. Garan (SH2) - You shouldn't need more than a floating pillow but apparently you do~
12. Johnny Jones (SMRPG) - SHARK PIRATE. Odd how this ISN'T instant win.
13. Georg Prime (Suikos) - S2 Georg + Heavy = Good times~

It came from the toaster (Middle):

1. Carol Anderson (WA5)
2. Jessica Philomele (MK)
3. Alen (S1)
4. Colm (FE8)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tier Faaaaaaabulous~
5. Dekar (Lufia 2)
6. Alice Elliot (SH1)
7. Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
8. Maya (LoL2) - Man that outfit is ugly. Too ugly to go any higher.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tier Kotono
9. Grand Master (FF1) - Another nail in the Grand Old Master coffin
10. Bowser Koopa (SMRPG) - FEAR ME PLZ
11. Blanca (SH2) - Isn't doglike enough~. We should list off awesomeness instead, that way everybody's happy~


Not enough epic damn you aiel~ (Light):

1. Gijimu (S2)
2. Jet Enduro (WA3)
-------------------------------------------------------------- Tier "Not stupid boring Lights way out of Light's power range"
3. Miluda Folles (FFT)
4. Yukari Takeba (P3)
5. Rafa Galthana (FFT)
6. Tink (Disgaea 2)
7. Emma Hetfield (ACF)
« Last Edit: October 05, 2008, 04:03:24 AM by Nitori »
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 3. Light is 100% Dekar approved.
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2008, 02:52:58 AM »
Godlike:

1. Fou-Lu (BoF4)
2. Altima (FFT)
3. Ultimecia (FF8)
4. Benjamin (FFMQ)
5. Rolf Landale (PS2)
6. Deis (BoF2)
7. Rubicant (FF4)

Heavy:

1. Lede (FFT)
2. Neifirst (PS2)
3. Ephraim (FE8)
4. Athos (FE7)
5. Alex (Lunar:SSSC)
6. Zapdos (PKMN)
7. Rofel Wodring (FFT)
8. Cait Sith (FF7)

Middle:

Insufficient people.

Light:

Insufficient people.