Author Topic: Season 46 rankings: Making the final cut. (Read 9644 times)

superaielman · « **on:** October 10, 2008, 03:48:25 PM »

Alright, here's the final barrier to what gets into the RPGDL. There's three questions...

1. Have you played this game?

2. Rank it?

3. Why not (if not)?

Some good reasons not to rank a game...

A. Not enough voters at the RPGDL.
B. Too hard to compare them to other RPG characters (assuming you've seen them that is).
C. Not interesting enough (i.e. boring in a duel and not much to write about them)
D. Other (please specify)

2/3 support (66.66...%) is needed for a game to be ranked. Each character in the game also needs 66%- IE if FE9 is ranked with 95% of the voters but only 15% support ranking Ashnard and the rest no/abstain on him, he won't be ranked.

The games this time:

Persona 3
Final Fantasy 3 Forgotten Warrior: Cloud of Darkness

superaielman · « **Reply #1 on:** October 10, 2008, 03:50:34 PM »

Persona 3

No
Yes

No to any form of the final boss, Aigis, Minato, Metis for now. No to any other boss, come to think of it.

Cloud of Darkness
No (Need to finish FF3)
Yes

I dislike ranking just a boss, but FF3's special. Considering the sales and popularity of the game, I can't see holding off on ranking the final boss for a theorical generic rank that isn't likely to ever happen.

Lady Ashe · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2008, 03:57:07 PM »

Persona 3

Yes
Yes
No to Minato and Metis. Minato because of Bluelike(He is only high Godlike for me, but apparently others give him access to both skill inheritance and personas above endgame levels, so). Metis because of lower playership. Maybe a FW depending on how P3 ends up doing. Yes to other PCs, Strega, Nyx.

Cloud of Darkness

No
Yes

Mad Fnorder · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2008, 04:08:27 PM »

Persona 3
Yes
Yes

Rank PCs and Strega, No Full moon bosses, No Minato, no Metis for now. She's fine as a FW later if P3 does well. I have no problem with Final Boss: I've never encountered the Moonless Gown up/down in the same turn phenomenon that others have.

CoD
No
Yes
Seems fine, and it's just one character. I may play it eventually.

Nitori · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2008, 04:42:21 PM »

Persona 3

Yes
Yes
The Journey PCs and Strega work~. No Minato/Metis/Nyxy, yes Aigis. (If the votesplit is significant at all, then why aren't we ranking Metis instead? Regardless, we have worse ranked so whatever~)

Final Fantasy 3 Forgotten Warrior: Cloud of Darkness

No
Sure, whatever~

VySaika · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2008, 04:43:52 PM »

Persona 3
Played it.

Rank it.

No to Minato, Aigis, Nyx Avatar and Metis. Rank the rest of the PCs and Strega. Seems pretty straightforward.

FF3: CoD

Played it.

Rank her.

I'm almost a little hesitent to rank her now, considering the four before me just said "no" to the "have you played it" question. If that trend continues, I'll change my vote on ranking.

EDIT: Changed my mind on Aigis. She's getting a DNR from me right now.

hinode · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2008, 04:46:21 PM »

Persona 3
No
Yes
Rank Yukari, Junpei, Akihiko, Mitsuru, Koromaru, Ken, Shinjiro, Chidori. No to anyone else.
EDIT: Abstain on Jin/Takaya. Chidori is too awesome on paper not to say yes to.

Cloud of Darkness
No
Yes

Shale · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2008, 05:06:55 PM »

Answers are the same for both:

1. No.

2. Yes.

No to the P3 main, abstain on all other individual rankings. (Except Cloud of Darkness, obviously)

alanna82 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2008, 05:07:47 PM »

Persona 3

Yes played
Yes rank
All except Minato and Metis (yes I am yesing Nyx Avatar)

Final Fantasy 3 Forgotten Warrior: Cloud of Darkness
Yes played
Sure, why not, its got casual (FF3 did decent in not ranked for the generics)

Meeplelard · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2008, 05:08:47 PM »

Persona 3

No
Yes
Much as I don't want to agree to this...there's no reason it shouldn't be ranked, apparently.
Edit: Oh, and no to the usual trio people are saying, which seem to be Minato, Nyx Avatar and Metis. Abstain on Aigis since she sounds Votesplit happy fun times due to FES, but not knowing enough about the game makes me unable to judge fairly.

Final Fantasy 3 Forgotten Warrior: Cloud of Darkness

Yes
Yes
See Super. Also, I know that some of these "no"s are people who played part of the game but never finished, but are also the kind of people who are more willing to finish the game if something gets ranked so...

Talaysen · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2008, 05:46:27 PM »

Persona 3

Yes.
Yes.

Rank Yukari, Junpei, Akihiko, Mitsuru, Ken, and Shinjiro. Abstain on Metis and Aigis. Hell no to Nyx Avatar (even if he doesn't use Moonless Gown on the same turn as it goes down he's still practically unbeatable). [For the record I think we should boot other infinite invincibility whores as well.] No to Minato for obvious reasons as well.
Rank Chidori, Jin, and Takaya for bosses I guess.

Final Fantasy 3 Forgotten Warrior: Cloud of Darkness

Yes.
No.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #11 on:** October 10, 2008, 05:53:41 PM »

Persona 3

Played It.
Rank It.
No Minato, no Nyx Avatar, no Metis. Yes PCs, yes Strega (Chidori/Jin/Takaya). Aigis ranked as The Journey only (ie no The Answer Godlike nonsense)

Final Fantasy III (Cloud of Darkness)
Played It.
Rank It.
Uh yeah.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #12 on:** October 10, 2008, 06:05:38 PM »

P3:
Yes
Yes
PCs + Strega... yes to Nyx Avatar. Abstain on Minato/Metis.

FW:
Yes
Yes
Go CoD, now representing 9 out of 10 Final Fantasies seen in Dissidia.

Nephrite · « **Reply #13 on:** October 10, 2008, 06:23:43 PM »

P3
Yes
Yes
Rank everything. I don't think 'nigh impossible' is a valid reason to exclude something, we have plenty of those as it stands now anyway.

CoD
Yes
Yes

Dark Holy Elf · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2008, 06:25:52 PM »

P3: No, yes.

Do not rank Minato, Metis, or Nyx avatar.
EDIT: No Jin or Takaya either. Been convinced on P3 bosses by the arguments of Sage/Super. Chidori I'll keep as an abstain since she seems innocent enough.

FF3: Yes, yes.

Dunefar · « **Reply #15 on:** October 10, 2008, 06:55:34 PM »

P3: No, No and I don't think it's ready.

Cloud of Darkness: A long time ago, abstain, don't care.

Luther Lansfeld · « **Reply #16 on:** October 10, 2008, 06:58:35 PM »

Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on October 10, 2008, 06:25:52 PM

P3: No, yes.

Do not rank Minato, Metis, or Nyx avatar.

FF3: Yes, yes.

Mad Fnorder · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2008, 07:01:29 PM »

Quote from: Lady Ashe on October 10, 2008, 03:57:07 PM

Minato because of Bluelike(He is only high Godlike for me, but apparently others give him access to both skill inheritance and personas above endgame levels, so).

As I understand it, skill inheritance isn't even the issue- just the fact that he either has Initiative like he does in game, and blows you away with 50something times average damage. I suppose if you take the initiative away, he can still set up for status immunity and auto-revival, so you can't one-turn him and then he asplodes you.

Ultradude · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2008, 07:17:11 PM »

P3

1. Yes
2. Yes
I'd support all non-Minato and Metis PCs and Strega. Still on the fence about Nyx Avatar, though leaning yes given past judgments on invincibility tricks. Minato is obviously bluelike in too many ways to too many people.

CoD
1. No
2. Yes

Lady Ashe · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2008, 07:33:24 PM »

I covered that as well. Armageddon is past end-game levels for me.

Dhyerwolf · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2008, 08:26:36 PM »

P3
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No to Aigis, Metis, Minato, Nyx and Strega members. Yes to everyone else. Uh...do people really think that Aigis is ready with that vote split and no actual notes on the split?

CoD
1. No
2. Yes.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #21 on:** October 10, 2008, 08:28:31 PM »

Well, I'd been operating under the assumption that Aigis could and should be ranked as The Journey only. Probably ought to note that though.

Lady Ashe · « **Reply #22 on:** October 10, 2008, 08:40:59 PM »

I thought that almost nobody had actually played The Answer. At least, that is the impression I was given in chat a while back. (Something about "P3 with all of the good parts taken out") As such, if there is votesplit, it should only be with a very few people, and some of them will probably vote based on her ranked form anyway. Probably less of one than CoD, really.

Dhyerwolf · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2008, 08:43:45 PM »

The Answer is pretty decently played (Probably at least half the P3 players on the board)? Now if these games had say different numbers, it might be a different story, but all some casual voters might see is that Persona 3 next to her.

OblivionKnight · « **Reply #24 on:** October 10, 2008, 08:53:06 PM »

...wait, WA5 didn't make it? ...wow.

Persona 3
Rank. Rank. Rank.
To rank: Minato Arisato, Junpei Iori, Yukari Takeba, Akihiko Sanada, Mitsuru Kirijo, Fuuka Yamagishi, Aigis, Koromaru, Ken Amada, Shinjiro Aragaki, Jin, Takaya, Chidori, Ryoji (Nyx Avatar).

Final Fantasy 3 Forgotten Warrior: Cloud of Darkness
Eh...I say abstain here.
A bit odd, but I think I'll stand by what I said in the last topic. There's...a good deal of votesplit on her, depending on the form. It's odd to rank just the boss and not the PCs when there are PCs to rank (I've heard people say this about FF5...for the record, I do support ranking the FF5 PCs). She's boring as sin too...and not a Godlike (well, to me with just the NES form! DS form is a Godlike the way I look at it, but...). I do not feel Cloud of Darkness would be bad ranked, but...there's so little plot there (...Zande summons a naked cloud to destroy the world...), it makes me think of Necron. It's adding another Middle/Heavy boss with votesplit (ranking may vary, blah blah) without anything else from the game. The boss is also boring as sin on that votesplit. I just...I don't feel the ranking would hurt, as the draw is good and there's interest there, but...well, what I said above.

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Author Topic: Season 46 rankings: Making the final cut. (Read 9644 times)