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List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« on: October 12, 2008, 05:59:50 AM »
Now, a refresher on the rules...

1. DO NOT rank characters from games you have not played. Just leave them off the list.

2. Your vote will not be counted if you don't rank at least 7 characters in each division.

3. Please don't vote for a character because you like him or her. This is based off of their overall battle prowess, just because Dekar>>>>>>>>>>>*Insert character here* in coolness points (:^)) doesn't mean he should be first in Godlike.

4. RPGDL rules apply, however you may interpret them.

5. Characters are not fighting other characters. You are just ranking them from best overall to worst overall

6. In this first round, the top 4 characters in each division move to the winners list, the characters ranked 5th-8th move to the losers bracket, and everyone else goes off somewhere and dies.

7. If a character does not get on at least three lists, he/she will be eliminated due to not being well known enough.

8. This isn't a rule, but if it isn't too much trouble could you please number your lists? Like
1. TimeLord
2. Squall
3. Jogurt, instead of

TimeLord
Squall
Jogurt

9. Don't use strategy in your lists. Don't put one person at the bottom just to push someone else up, unless you honestly believe he/she should be at the bottom. If you think Beatrix should be in the top 4, but she's only 6th, don't rank the people above her in the bottom of the list, unless they honestly deserve it.

Here's Week 1, of List Tournament... 7? 8? Ah, who the fuck knows. This group will be much stronger than the last list (We've ranked a ton of games since then and I'm using a bit of NR) expect this field to be way stronger than the last couple of list fields. Heavy is murder. Have fun!

Scoring system:

7 characters ranked
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1st: 16
2nd: 14
3rd: 11
4th: 8
5th: 5
6th: 2
7th: 0

8 Characters ranked
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1st: 16
2nd: 14
3rd: 12
4th: 9
5th: 7
6th: 5
7th: 3
8th: 0

9 Characters ranked
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1: 16
2: 14
3: 12
4: 10
5: 8
6: 6
7: 4
8: 2
9: 0

10
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 13
4: 11
5: 9
6: 7
7: 5
8: 3
9: 1
10: 0

11
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 12
5: 10
6: 8
7: 6
8: 4
9: 2
10: 1
11: 0

12
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 11
6: 10
7: 8
8: 6
9: 4
10: 2
11: 1
12: 0

13
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 12
6: 11
7: 9
8: 7
9: 6
10: 4
11: 2
12: 1
13: 0

14
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 12
6: 11
7: 10
8: 8
9: 7
10: 6
11: 4
12: 3
13: 2
14: 0

15
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 12
6: 11
7: 10
8: 9
9: 8
10: 7
11: 6
12: 4
13: 2
14: 1
15: 0

16
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1: 16
2: 15
3: 14
4: 13
5: 12
6: 11
7: 10
8: 9
9: 8
10: 7
11: 6
12: 5
13: 4
14: 3
15: 1
16: 0

Godlike:

Winners:

1. Jenna Angel (15.3)
2. Profound Darkness (15.14)
3. Emelious de Pamela (13.5)
4. Sarevok (13)

Losers:

5. Arceus (11.83)
6. Dhaos (11.3)
7. Avalon (9.6)
8. Fereydoon (9.44)

Out:

9. Luther Lansfeld (8.57)
10. Ash Lambert (8.27)
11. Magus (6.47)
12. Jessica Albert (5.92)
13. Wren (5)
14. Lulu (4.93)
15. Sir Leopold (3.64)
16. Jecht: (1.13)

Heavy:

Winners:

1. Id (12.79)
2. Bosch (12.27)
3. Kary (10.65)
4. Hugo (10.6)

Losers:

5. Hiro (10.44)
6. Nina 4 (10.16)
7. Nel Zelpher (9.53)
8. Donald Duck (9.45)

Out:

9. Shizel (9.27)
10. Fogel (8.6)
11. Albert Simon (8.07)
12. Suicune (7.54)
13. Geddoe (6.71)
14. Cristo (6.6)
15. Arngrim (3.72)
16. Edea Kramer (1.79)


Middle:

Winners:

1. Jude Maverick (14.69)
2. Nelis (11.54)
3. Ulf (11.16)
4. Mitsuru Kijiro (11)

Losers:

5. Poco (10.85)
6. Bowman Jean (10.82)
7. Fiora (10.37)
8. Bowyer (9.12)

Out:

9. Meru (7.82)
10. Charizard (7.79)
11. Nergal (7.63)
12. Joachim Valentine (7.07)
13. Mua (6)
14. Harle (5.25)
15. Frog (3.53)
16. Katt (2)


Light:

Winners:


1. Taya (15.14)
2. Melody Vilente (13.31)
3. Russell Bergman (13.25)
4. Pikachu (11.70)

Losers:

5. Rude (10.44)
6. Wilme (10.2)
7. Karn (9)
8. Sten (8.67)

Out:

9. Brey (8.62)
10. Tai Ho (7.47)
11. Randi (6.77)
12. Genis Sage (6.25)
13. Palmer (5.55)
14. Anri (5.25)
15. LeBlanc (3.41)
16. Goofy (1.6)

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Godlike:

Jade (BoF1)
Piastol (SoA)
Melfice (G2)
Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
Genevieve (VP1)
Luca Blight (S2)
Nate Nanjo (Pers)
KOS-MOS (XSs)
Valvalis (FF4)
Varin Omega (DDS)
Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
Gilbert (SH3)
Tibarn (FE9)
Ted (S4)
Killer (SH3)

Heavy:

Scias (BoF4)
Red (Saga)
Legretta (TotA)
Hect (G3)
Ryu  (BoF1)
Surt (VP1)
Articuno (PKMN)
Gau (FF6)
Kevin (SD3)
Albel Nox (SO3)
Tana (FE8)
Demi (PS4)
Groudon (PKMN)
Alfina (G3)
Ultros (FF6)
Jack van Burace (WA1)

Middle:

Marle (CT)
Nikea (S5)
Eiko Carol (FF9)
Kashell (VP1)
Mog (FF6)
Max (SF1)
Judecca (WA2)
Nanaki (FF7)
Valter (FE8)
Alhazad (WA1)
Sophia Esteed (SO3)
Harley (DDS)
Slade (SF2)
Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
Venusaur (PKMN)
Killey (Suikos)

Light:

Tony (WA:XF)
Landis (S3)
Nei (S3)
Slash (CT)
Rozalin (Disgaea 2)
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
Chisato Madision (SO2)
Bernadette (S5)
Fargo (CC)
Miranda (G3)
Red Wizard (FF1)
Lowen (FE7)
Meg (Suikos)
Imoen (BGs)
Mallow (SMRPG)
Corselia (ST)
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2008, 06:09:14 AM »
Godlike:


1. Jade (HP+Good offense.)
2. Piastol (Speed+offense.)
3. Melfice (Speed+offense. See Emelious last week pretty much.)
4. Luca Blight (Good against bosses, less so against PC's.)
5. Yuri Volte Hyuga (Covers his bases well between the two forms.)
6. Lenneth Valkyrie (See Yuri, just does not like physical tanks in either form.)
7. Nate Nanjo (Solid defensive fighter, can be spoiled.)
*Drop*
8. Varin Omega (Solid Godlike.)
9. Ted (Dark resist isn't common enough in Godlike offhand. Defense is a serious problem however.)
10. Gilbert
11. Killer
*drop*
12. Valvalis- Speedy HP-1 at least.
13. KOS-MOS (S-Chain can spoil a couple of fighters)
14. Xenobia (Needs better offense and speed)
15. Genevieve (Oh hey it's Loki without Carnage anthem to help him against elemental tanks, this'll work. No.)

Heavy:

1. Red (Tank to physicals in normal form, tank to everything in Alkaiser, plus a verging OHKO in Re-Al.)
2. Hect (No SP. Fire defense being semi common keeps her sane in Heavy.)
3. Scias (Covers his bases well in Heavy)
4. Ryu 1
5. Legretta (See this week for why I'm not as impressed with her as her on paper damage shows.)
6. Jack (Speed+turn one ID and damage is good enough.
7. Demi (Solid healer)
8. Gau (Does a little of everything)
9. Tana (Very solid package, just limited by being from FE)
10. Kevin (Nasty fighter but is very 1-D)
11. Surt (Runs screaming from fire defense.)
12. Alfina (No SP)
13. Ultros (One status wonder.)


1. Nikea (Ow to that offense.)
2. Max (Should be in Heavy)
3. Nanaki (Obnoxiously hard to beat. Don't scale limit gain any more. He has a 2HKO out of the gate, a 2HKO instant limit that's extremely hard to smash past, and a limit that causes haste. Yeah. He also blocks status and is above average speed.)
4. Slade (Fast 2HKO that's non elemental.)
5. Harley (HP)
6. Nash Rumack (Status is nice but struggles otherwise.)
7. Killey (See Nelis but with worse defense)
8. Valter (Respect for FE8 bosses isn't too terribly high, but he's okay enough.)
9. Mog (Funky spoiler, but good enough at it.)
10. Venusaur (Solid status whore.)
11. Marle (Meru/Yulie have struggled some for the defense but they can get around it if they get past turn one. Marle can't, she can just haste and hope to status out. She's a neat fighter but does not like the trend of ranking solid fighters in Middle.)
*DROP*
12. Kashell (Status+Evade. Good besides for that, but..)
13. Eiko Carol (Elementally resistant healer. It's something.)
14. Alhazad (Needs more HP)
15. Judecca (Remember him being pretty bad.)

Light:


1. Imoen
2. Rozalin (Just a good light all around.)
3. Landis (Solid antimagical spoiler.)
4. Miranda (No SP average helps her a good deal, though earth defense is too common.)
5. Red Wizard (Very solid as well.)
6. Meg (Good healer)
7. Vinsfeld ( I think.)
8. Lowen (Speed is bad news)
9. Corselia (I think)
10. Chisato (Elemental defense and okay damage dealer)
11. Mallow (Could use more FP)
12. Fargo (Okay damage dealer. No L3 really hurts as always.)
13. Nei (Okay damage dealer)
14. Bernadette (No damage whatsoever, a watered down SL, and speed/HP issues.)
15. Tony (Scrub)
16. Slash (Scrub)
« Last Edit: October 12, 2008, 06:32:28 AM by superaielman »
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2008, 06:34:39 AM »
Godlike:

1. Jade (BoF1): Duh.
2. Genevieve (VP1): Also overkills.
3. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs): Really overall scary.
4. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs): Mmph, I'm not sure about how I feel about him any more... but honestly, there's a large enough gap between Lenneth and Xenobia to put him here.
5. Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC): Stone and awesome durability.
6. Gilbert (SH3): Blitz from hell.
7. Valvalis (FF4): All sorts of spoiling is nice.
8. Ted (S4): Overkill, but way worse overkill because it's a frail PC.
9. Killer (SH3): Underestimated him before. His tricks really add up, even if the HP's not great to me.
10. Luca Blight (S2): Okay slugger.
11. Varin Omega (DDS): Inferior slugger.
12. Melfice (G2): Still inferior! Evade though.
13. Tibarn (FE9): Better than I thought, may actually pull Low Godlike. Still not tooo impressed, though.
14. KOS-MOS (XSs): Borderliner.


Heavy:

1. Scias (BoF4): There's a reason he was in Godlike. Good equips, good stats, healing, and some status tricks.
2. Surt (VP1): He and Legretta are actually... really similar (fire/holy tanky bosses who take some time to get started). Gut says Surt's ITE will put him ahead, though (see this week).
3. Legretta (TotA): Well, she's really good as far as limit bosses go in Heavy. Still has their flaws.
4. Demi (PS4): Fast, status immune healers are always cool.
5. Ultros (FF6): Imp! Would be higher if I voted on his first form (as in, would top the field).
6. Groudon (PKMN): Buff smash.
7. Gau (FF6): Nightshade and Veteran are terrific status options, when you're as durable as him. Magic Urn also exists to spoil elemental types.
8. Alfina (G3): Lots of neat tricks.
9. Articuno (PKMN): Too ice reliant, but aside from that, tanky above average speed high 2HKO with Agility to kill healers/pressure ice resistance is pretty good.
10. Tana (FE8): Evade spoiling is sick, and her offence is excellent. The fact that Eirika is Godlike shows how well this works.
11. Kevin (SD3): Has some healing, and is reasonable on offence and durability.
12. Ryu  (BoF1): Needs to do better against mages. Good physical spoiler, though.
13. Hect (G3): I dunno. I think the awful stats hurt more than I initially thought.
14. Jack van Burace (WA1): All his versatility ends up with him being just a mediocre status slinger, since neither his healing nor his damage really cut it in Heavy.
15. Albel Nox (SO3): Uh, draining!


Middle:

1. Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC): Heavy-level status whore.
2. Killey (Suikos): Blazingly fast, powerful 2HKO with good equips and an okay physical backup.
3. Valter (FE8): Frail, but he tends to win if not OHKOed.
4. Alhazad (WA1): Status boss is always good.
6. Marle (CT): Status PC is always good too. Yeah, she's slow/frail, but tends to win if she gets a turn (either turn 1 status or haste/heal), and status immune.
5. Venusaur (PKMN): Marle with better stats, but more status vulnerable / elemental weaknesses / not quite as decisive at victories.
7. Mog (FF6): Really spoilable with status, but excellent otherwise.
8. Judecca (WA2): Decent boss slugger.
9. Max (SF1): Judecca trading status immunity for speed.
10. Slade (SF2): Faster 2HKO, but frail with resource limits. Hmm.
11. Harley (DDS): Pretty good, but fire reliant hurts.
12. Nanaki (FF7): This Middle field kicks ass. Red's still above average. Anyway, blockers and some decent options.
13. Nikea (S5): Uh, thinking element/status resist puts her above Kashell?
14. Kashell (VP1): Still 2HKOs.
15. Sophia Esteed (SO3): Okay, finally, the below average Middles. I think Sophia's drain game puts her above Eiko, but could be argued that...
16. Eiko Carol (FF9): ... Eiko's elemental resists are more important.


Light:

1. Landis (S3): Tanks magic very well, and the freezing is scary for Lights to deal with. Healing against those who fail at damage is also good for the division.
2. Slash (CT): Everything Dhyer said (minus a little HP respect)... just I dunno. He loses to any buffer pretty much (RAJA), and in general isn't as good as Landis on offence, which Light frequently calls for. Still needs to upgrade.
3. Mallow (SMRPG): Very solid little healer.
4. Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2): Durable boss, but speed and a bit less damage put him below Slash.
5. Fargo (CC): 2HKOs are always good.
6. Lowen (FE7): So is being an okay FEer... just a bit close to being doubled.
7. Bernadette (S5): Lack of damage hurts, but...
8. Meg (Suikos): Lack of Bern's equips still make her lower.
9. Chisato Madision (SO2): Now we're into the "whatever" fighters. Chisato's better all-around than...
10. Nei (S3): ... Nei, who still manages some speed and evasion.
11. Miranda (G3): Miranda doesn't even have either of those.
12. Red Wizard (FF1): My spell interp makes him suck.
13. Tony (WA:XF): But not as much as Tony!
« Last Edit: October 13, 2008, 11:06:47 PM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2008, 06:53:39 AM »
Godlike:
1 Jade
2 Piastol, although the gap between her and those below isn’t all that great.
3 Genevieve. Yeah, damage+OPB Healing+passable physical if needed+MDef+Evasion
4 Killer. Solid durability (to me), damage, PC killing stuff…yeah.
5 Xenobia
6 Nate
7 Varin
8 Melfice
9 Lenneth
10 Ted
11 Yuri. Doesn’t have the sheer slugging needed to really take down bosses and wishes SH 1 speed actually did something.
12 Valvilus
13 Tibarn
14 Luca
15 KOS-MOS. Yay, a freebie!

Light
1 Slash. At least 2.4 PC HP+Halves Elements+14 Speed+3HKOs below 1.6 PC HP+Counters below 30% (Which…3HKOing and element halving means Light healers will have serious issues avoiding that).
2 Imoen. Buffs of death+Some Status too.
3 Corselia. While she hates other healers to a degree, they tend to hate her back. Evil Mdef+Evasion+Element Panels
4 Landis. I think? Enemies lose every other turn unless they block Paralysis, and if they have low damage, he gets half his HP back on turn 4. Could fall a little.
5 Bernadette. Equips+Lots of Healing. Ice Poison hype of something.
6 Mallow. Solid healer with passable damage on both fronts.
7 Chisato. A few nice equip options+that evasion is solid overall.
8 Meg. Nice healing, but wants more durability.
9 Miranda. About half the durability of Vinsfield, but maybe double the damage, and she has WOW and unlike Vinsfield, her magic and physical damage are about even.
10 Vinsfield. HP+Magic+a physical does exist
11Lowen. Gut. Takes physicals well, magic badly, but the threat of being doubled hurts.
12 Nei. The speed is nice, but she doesn’t have anything else.
13 Fargo. 3HKO off tad slow speed.
14 Red Wizard. DoS+Harsh on 50% cast spells hurts.
15 Rozalin. 90% HP that struggles to have a limited 3HKO with no tricks.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2008, 05:34:48 AM by Dhyerwolf »
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2008, 08:32:32 AM »
Godlike
1. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
2. Jade (BoF1)
3. Piastol (SoA)
4. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
5. Luca Blight (S2)
6. Tibarn (FE9)
7. Melfice (G2)
8. Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
9. KOS-MOS (XSs)
10. Ted (S4)
11. Gilbert (SH3)
12. Valvalis (FF4)
13. Killer (SH3)
14. Genevieve (VP1)

Heavy
1. Red (Saga)
2. Legretta (TotA)
3. Scias (BoF4)
4. Ryu  (BoF1)
5. Surt (VP1)
6. Kevin (SD3)
7. Articuno (PKMN)
8. Ultros (FF6)
9. Jack van Burace (WA1)
10. Tana (FE8)
11. Gau (FF6)
12. Demi (PS4)
13. Albel Nox (SO3)

Middle
1. Alhazad (WA1)
2. Max (SF1)
3. Nanaki (FF7)
4. Nikea (S5)
5. Eiko Carol (FF9)
6. Mog (FF6)
7. Valter (FE8)
8. Slade (SF2)
9. Marle (CT)
10. Killey (Suikos)
11. Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
12. Venusaur (PKMN)
13. Sophia Esteed (SO3)
14. Judecca (WA2)
15. Kashell (VP1)

Light
1. Rozalin (Disgaea 2)
2. Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
3. Red Wizard (FF1)
4. Fargo (CC)
5. Landis (S3)
6. Chisato Madison (SO2)
7. Mallow (SMRPG)
8. Slash (CT)
9. Bernadette (S5)
10. Lowen (FE7)
11. Nei (S3)
12. Meg (Suikos)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2008, 09:20:04 AM »
Godlike:

1. Jade (BoF1)
2. Piastol (SoA)
3. Luca Blight (S2)
4. Tibarn (FE9)
5. Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
6. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
7. Valvalis (FF4)
8. Genevieve (VP1)


Heavy:

1. Surt (VP1)
2. Ryu  (BoF1)
3. Groudon (PKMN)
4. Tana (FE8)
5. Articuno (PKMN)
6. Jack van Burace (WA1)
7. Demi (PS4)
8. Scias (BoF4)


Middle:

1. Alhazad (WA1)
2. Judecca (WA2)
3. Eiko Carol (FF9)
4. Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
5. Valter (FE8)
6. Venusaur (PKMN)
7. Nanaki (FF7)

Light:

Insufficient.

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2008, 05:01:23 PM »
Godlike:

1.Jade (BoF1)
2.Melfice (G2)
3.Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
4.Killer (SH3)
5.Gilbert (SH3)
6.Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
7.Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
8.Genevieve (VP1)
9.Tibarn (FE9)
10.Valvalis (FF4)
11.KOS-MOS (XSs)

Heavy:

1.Surt (VP1)
2.Legretta (TotA)
3.Red (Saga)
4.Ultros (FF6)
5.Ryu  (BoF1)
6.Jack van Burace (WA1)
7.Scias (BoF4)
8.Hect (G3)
9.Gau (FF6)
10.Tana (FE8)
11.Alfina (G3)
12.Groudon (PKMN)
13.Articuno (PKMN)
14.Demi (PS4)

Middle:

1.Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
2.Eiko Carol (FF9)
3.Alhazad (WA1)
4.Mog (FF6)
5.Valter (FE8)
6.Venusaur (PKMN)
7.Marle (CT)
8.Kashell (VP1)
9.Sophia Esteed (SO3)
10..Judecca (WA2)
11.Nanaki (FF7)




Light:

1.Mallow (SMRPG)
2.Red Wizard (FF1)
3.Miranda (G3)
4.Slash (CT)
5.Lowen (FE7)
6.Fargo (CC)
7.Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
8.Chisato Madision (SO2)
9.Tony (WA:XF)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2008, 05:52:50 PM »
1. Jade (BoF1): Yeah.
2. Piastol (SoA): Yeah. Pt 2.
*Drop*
3. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs): Overkill physical damage with the threat of "you lose" turn 2 is still good.
4. Genevieve (VP1): Frailish, but support was good enough to justify some durability respect. Overkill magic damage is still good. Though Hard Mode only...
5. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs): Can do anything, pretty much. But isn't overwhelming enough in any single field.
6. Gilbert (SH3): The blitz is good, but he isn't that awesome against slugger bosses.
7. Ted (S4): Overkill magic damage like Gen! Speed! Durability of... paper.
8. Valvalis (FF4): Spoils things well enough.
9. Luca Blight (S2): Hurts things well enough.
10. Melfice (G2): Does what he is supposed to do well enough.
11. Tibarn (FE9): Hurts things well enough, with other good traits like awesome durability.
12. Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC): Rar durable.
13. Killer (SH3): Boss with ID.
14. KOS-MOS (XSs): Too slow.

Heavy:

1. Red (Saga): Just good all-around. Hurts things, very fast, durable, status immune etc... He feels more like a Heavy/Godlike boss mold, honestly.
2. Surt (VP1)
3. Legretta (TotA): Great... except against buffer fighters.
4. Ultros (FF6): Nice damage (I spit at 2x overkill hype, but whatever), but weak to fire hurts.
5. Articuno (PKMN)
6. Jack van Burace (WA1)
7. Gau (FF6)
8. Tana (FE8)
9. Scias (BoF4)
10. Demi (PS4)
11. Kevin (SD3)
12. Alfina (G3)
13. Ryu  (BoF1)
14. Albel Nox (SO3)
15. Hect (G3)

Middle:

1. Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC): Accurate multi-status whore with plenty of speed.
2. Max (SF1): Hits things in the face really really hard. Can't argue with that myself.
3. Harley (DDS): Lots of HP. Lots of HP.
4. Eiko Carol (FF9): Lots of healing, elemental resistances, a few buffs that may find use. I don't know. Feels solid. She made it to the Middle Finals once I think and that doesn't feel like an accident.
5. Nikea (S5): Hits things and has HP.
6. Kashell (VP1): Hits things decently hard and has HP.
7. Mog (FF6): The tankishness is nice. But eh. Doesn't feel powerful.
8. Slade (SF2): I'm likely underrating him, but I don't think he could properly heal lock from memory? IDing bosses might get some hype against damageless high durability bosses in Middle?
9. Killey (Suikos)
10. Alhazad (WA1)
11. Nanaki (FF7): Limits aren't so bad.
12. Marle (CT): So physically frail. Thats bad. Magic durability and generally having the means to win if she gets a turn are good.
13. Judecca (WA2): Feels like a weak PC, in all honesty. Maybe a bit more durable?
14. Valter (FE8): Offense is there! Durability is not. Oh so very not. Ohhhhh so very not.
15. Sophia Esteed (SO3): Get thee back to Light.

Light:

1 Slash.
2 Landis.
3 Bernadette.
4 Mallow.
5 Chisato.
6 Meg.
7 Miranda.
8 Vinsfield.
9 Lowen.
10 Fargo.
11 Red Wizard. 
12 Tony (WA:XF)
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2008, 05:28:53 AM »
Godlike:

1. Piastol (SoA): See Cryo.
2. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs): Awesome sheer power and sorta tricky.
3. Valvalis (FF4): Spoils too much.
4. KOS-MOS (XSs): More versatile than Tibarn, though I'm counting XS3 here too. Needs it.
5. Tibarn (FE9): Sexy. Fast, strong, and cancels attacks.

Heavy:

1. Legretta (TotA): Beats almost any non-buffer.
2.Ultros (FF6): Uber status or borderline godlike boss. Fire weakness loses to Legretta.
3. Jack van Burace (WA1): Good to great at most things.
4. Groudon (PKMN): Tanky as hell and hits hard. Hates status.
5. Gau (FF6): Spoils a few different ways. Can be spoiled though.
6. Tana (FE8): Vidofnir does wonders.
7. Articuno (PKMN): Weak to fire and lightning. Still tanky and solid damage.
8. Albel Nox (SO3): Decent parasitic strategy, and that's it.

Middle:

1. Nanaki (FF7): Agreed on not scaling limits. FF7 <3's me.
2. Valter (FE8): Low HP, yet fears no physical slugfests, and can manage frailer mages.
3. Venusaur (PKMN): Sleep powder is great. Solid otherwise.
4. Eiko Carol (FF9): Healer with damage and FF9 equips.
5. Marle (CT): Haste healer without MP.
6. Mog (FF6): Despite the insane tanking.
7. Alhazad (WA1): Haha WAo.

Light:

1. Landis (S3): Stun-locking and mage spoiling.
2. Mallow (SMRPG): Enough healing for this.
3. Lowen (FE7): Tanky paladin.
4. Slash (CT): Eh.
5. Nei (S3): Eh.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2008, 12:18:09 PM »
1- Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)- Ultimate package of variety/versatility.
2- Ted (S4)- Mage with damage and unmagelike durability and speed!?
3-KOS-MOS (XSs)
4 -Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)- VPII form didn't impress me that much to be honest, it was all about Hrist and Valkryie~
5 - Gilbert (SH3))
6 -Killer (SH3)- Eh Killer's awesme but this is a tough field for me.
7 - Valvalis (FF4)

Heavy:

1-Gau (FF6)- Ok so maybe Yuri isn't ...
2 -Jack van Burace (WA1)
3-Kevin (SD3)-Powerhouse~
4- Scias (BoF4)
5-Ultros (FF6)
6- Albel Nox (SO3)- Damage is awful. Parasitic healing to both HP + MP with Vampiric Flash and chaos with Aura Wall/short O combined with decent HP/DEF makes him solid though. Counter fails in comparison to Peppita's but it's still there. Has SO3 equips/status blockers.
7 -Articuno (PKMN)


Middle:
1 - Mog (FF6) Tank with skill sets. Works.
2-Nanaki (FF7) FF7 character with materia.
3 - Eiko Carol (FF9) Has damage !!!
4 -Sophia Esteed (SO3)- Damage is beyond awful. Slow + frail too. On the other hand SO3 equips/status blockers, elementally versatile, parasitic healing (albeit off awful damage >.>)support/healing spells, spells with chance of ID or freeze + shatter kill, spells that lower defence/slow movement rate  ... Silence on her physicals is a nifty spoiler for some other mages too.
5 -Killey (Suikos)
6 - Venusaur (PKMN)
7 - Marle (CT)
8 - Nikea (S5)
9 -Alhazad (WA1)

Rest/reasons later.

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2008, 05:02:09 PM »
Only enough to vote on Heavy.

Godlike

1- Valvalis

Reeeeal tough decisions there.  <_<

Heavy

1. Red - Very very high heavy slugger.  Can't be statused either.
2. Ultros - Ultros 2 for now... kneejerk respect for his HP is high enough for this.
3. Gau - Stupidly large bag of tricks, on top of innately good physical defense.
4. Demi - Residual respect from old seasons of Proving Grounds, mainly.
5. Groudon - Very good slugger, but suffers from elemental resists somewhat.
6. Articuno - Putting Arti below Groudon feels pretty straightforward.
7. Tana - Solid, but evade/counters don't get you as far in Heavy as they do in Middle.
8. Kevin - Too one-dimensional for this evil field.

Middle

1. Max - Heavy-class slugger.
2. Venusaur - Would be better than Max except for the bad weakness list.  I'd put it first anyways if I voted on FRLG.
3. Marle - Her haste/healing/status game works better than it looks on paper, in my experience.
4. Mog
5. Valter - Mmm... think "always go last" combined with zero status immunities screws him over enough to put Mog ahead.
6. Slade - Oh geez this field is brutal.  2HKO off above average speed is pretty damn good in Middle, even if he's got no resources and little durability.

Light

1. Mallow
2. Lowen
3. Red Wizard
4. Slash

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2008, 09:57:13 PM »
Godlike:

1. Jade (BoF1) - Zap.
2. Genevieve (VP1) - Boom.
3. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs) - Just scary. That level of skillset with the damage and durability and equips... yeah.
4. Valvalis (FF4) - Big gap here. Just strong respect for Val's spoiling goodness, since I allow her evade on both physicals and magic.
5. Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC) - I guess. Were Royce here, she'd probably go above Val.
6. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) - Not as much respect for Yuri as most. He's very good, but his big money is too damned expensive and his resources are too horrible. Durability and statusblockers and versatility, though. Hard to ignore the overall good stat strength.
7. Gilbert (SH3) - Boom, with less durability and focused long-term slugging.
8. Ted (S4) - Boom, only on a frail PC.
9. Killer (SH3) - Hm. The PC-killing is vicious. The HP sorta sucks still, but his slugfesting and tricks work out.
10. Luca Blight (S2) - Just slugs. Not that durable or fast, and easily spoiled.
11. Varin Omega (DDS) - Slugs more poorly than Luca. HUNGER WAVE can die in the same ditch as PS2 Dark Force status hype can.
12. Melfice (G2) - Sorta haphazard. His tricks and raw slugging power all amount to Heavy-bait, but he has evade and speed! Gets him up to Godlike, I guess.
13. KOS-MOS (XSs) - More of a high Heavy.


Heavy:

1. Ultros (FF6) - I allow Lete River Ultros. Instant top of the pool right there.
2. Scias (BoF4) - While Demi -does- beat Scias, his overall package is more impressive. Status, speed, 2HKO damage, healing, status resistances... he was in Godlike for a reason, and he does way too well in Heavy.
3. Groudon (PKMN) - Buff smash off awesome resistances and durability and good speed! Yay!
4. Demi (PS4) - Love that healing game. Similar to Nina, trading speed, off-the-bat magical durability and even more comprehensive immunities for ITE above average damage and physical durability. Fairly even trade, all in all.
5. Surt (VP1) - More buff-smash! Weaker than Groudon due to easier wallability and lower speed, methinks.
6. Gau (FF6) - The stalling strategy just works so well off the durability. Unreliable, but tends to live long enough to make things happen.
7. Red (Saga) - Another guy who gets by through the buff-smash (of sorts) strategy. Hurts that he doesn't OHKO like Surt and Groudon do, though, and his damage isn't that less wallable. Also, Red before turning into Alkaiser sorta fails, so stalling before going Alkaiser sorta... doesn't work, much like it happens with Ryu.
8. Tana (FE8) - Evade spoiling+offense is wonderful.
9. Articuno (PKMN) - More wallable, more weaknesses... still a very good slugfester with a buffing option. This pool is full of champ-powered Heavies, honestly.
10. Ryu  (BoF1) - Hm. The physical tanking is great, the magical tanking and ID vulnerability don't help, though. Still a good Heavy.
11. Kevin (SD3) - I guess. Solid slugfesting and healing.
12. Jack van Burace (WA1) - Generally less solid. Jack is just a status slinger in Heavy: his damage and healing don't really pan out.
13. Albel Nox (SO3) - And here is our loser. Draining is nice, but doesn't get you past Low Heavy when you apply pressure like Yulie.


Middle:

1. Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) - Heavy-level status whore. He gets reamed by people he's forced to slugfest, but his status variety and accuracy off the speed beats a few Godlike PCs, let alone Middle.
2. Killey (Suikos) - Hey, it's Nelis trading a slight bit of damage, some spoiling and a bunch of physical durability for a lot more speed! This isn't quite a losing trade.
3. Alhazad (WA1) - Slow and bad HP, but... awesome defenses, 2HKOs, and Sleep+Slow Down isn't a bad combo. He's Bowyer +, and Bowyer is pretty strong.
4. Valter (FE8) - Hm, yeah. Frail, but tends to be brutal against people who let him get a turn, and he absolutely shreds the sluggish.
5. Marle (CT) - Hm. Yeah, I guess she's just too sold once she gets a turn. Haste is still excellent, and the spoiling game with MDef from hell and status immunity is solid. She also tends to win matches in effectively few turns, since Stop is death and Confuse mitigates the horrible physical durability until she can Haste/heal back to safety.
6. Venusaur (PKMN) - Yeah, he's... overall a fair deal weaker than Nash, being more spoilable and slower. But he's also a solid slugger.
7. Mog (FF6) - Niiiiiiiice. Too bad about the awful status vulnerability and taking so long to get his good stuff.
8. Max (SF1) - Tanky 2HKOer. Too bad it's of the evadable variety, and he hasn't got much otherwise. ShF2 Max isn't very different either, wohoo two shots of 2HKO magic and quite possibly not 2HKOing with his physical, giving him resource issues?
9. Judecca (WA2) - The inaccuracy on his damage sorta dooms him to be lower. Oh well.
10. Slade (SF2) - I guess he's not much different from Max. Just frailer.
11. Nanaki (FF7) - He's... solid, I guess.
12. Nikea (S5) - The damage and equips are nice! Just eeeeeeeeeeeeeew speed.
13. Kashell (VP1) - Just slugs. Well, he does have durability and some equips.
14. Sophia Esteed (SO3) - Hard to peg. Assuming Blood Scylla is all she's got alongside SO3 equips, but that's not bad. Granted, not too good.
15. Eiko Carol (FF9) - Yay equips and not much else. Eiko isn't that strong.
16. Harley (DDS) - DDS1 Harley? Is closer to Light.


Light (no explanations for you, too lazy):

1. Landis (S3)
2. Slash (CT)
3. Fargo (CC)
4. Mallow (SMRPG)
5. Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
6. Bernadette (S5)
7. Lowen (FE7)
8. Meg (Suikos)
9. Chisato Madision (SO2)
10. Nei (S3)
11. Red Wizard (FF1)
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2008, 03:51:49 AM »
Godlike:





1. Jade
2. Yuri
3. Melfice
(gap of doom)
4. Valvalis
5. Ted
6. Xenobia
7. Lenneth
8. Tibarn
9. Luca Blight (He does not like the fact that I divide his HP by 3 since he faces 3 teams. Still a good heavy then, but not godlike with that HP)

Heavy:
Abstain on Gau. Still havent worked out how I see Rage in the DL.

1. Groudon (not godlike? that should change)
2. Red
3. Legretta
4. Ultros
5. Scias
6. Articuno
7. Tana
8. Ryu 1
9. Hect
10. Alfina
11. Jack
12. Demi (barely a heavy)
13. Albel (not a heavy)

Middle:


1. Max (remake Max is definitly a heavy)
2. Eiko
3. Mog
4. Marle
5. Nash Rumack
6. Venusaur
7. Valter (Pierce is nasty)
8. Nikea (lots of damage)
9. Killey (too bad his awesome suikoden 2 set up isnt DL legal)
10. Nanaki
11. Kashell
12. Sophia (not horrible, but this is a solid pool)

Light:


1. Red Wizard (Blink spam>>>> Light)
2. Chisato (full hit Tear Gas>>>>Light)
3. Bernadette (tanky healer)
4. Corselia (super evasion)
5. Mallow
6. Rozalin (she wasnt that bad for me)
7. Fargo
8. Meg
9. Miranda
10. Slash
11. Landis (again, dont get the hype for him, he has good speed, but his weapon is so heavy its pointless. Mage spoiler though)
12. Lowen (how do people think he is good, he has no damage)
13. Nei (S3) (If this was PS2 Nei she would be higher. S3 Nei is a Puny)

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2008, 07:34:10 AM »
Godlike:
1. Genevieve (VP1) - Think this looks right. Gen's a touch stronger than Melfice at the cost of a bit of durability. In practice, neither are too good on that end, so the offense edge takes the lead
2. Melfice (G2) - Speed + Offense. Not the same goodness as G3 bosses, but he's still pretty solid
3. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs) - Variety + power. There's a lot to say about that. I think the elemental resists + Heal and attack on the same turn nonsense trump Yuri today though
4. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) - Very good. Never saw FtC and he was still good for the variety. With FtC as per stat topic, lots of power. Granted, one big difference between him and Lenneth; runs out of gas really fast.
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5. KOS-MOS (XSs) - Think the odd ball spoiling beats Tibarn today
6. Tibarn (FE9) - Not bad. Don't think he's godlike though. Needs his FE10 form for me to do it. Granted, Hawk King is still Hawk King. Can see his position with KOS being traded easily.

Heavy:
1. Ultros (FF6) - Lete River form. So high damage + speed + status. Whee.
2. Surt (VP1) - A remix of Rubicant it feels like! Needs more start up time though. And I easily respect his big damage more than Legretta's.
3. Legretta (TotA) - Prism Ballet's kind of meh to me. Searing Sorrow though? That's good. The PDef just adds it up and makes her an impressive Heavy of sorts.
4. Gau (FF6) - Immense variety, spoils a crap load of people. Add the tankiness to that and you have one strong PC. Not sure if I give Gau his full set, but I certainly allow all the DL relevant ones anyway.
5. Groudon (PKMN) - Top 5 are pretty much locks. Anyway, Groudon's biggest thing aside from weakness is his speed. Tanky with options otherwise makes for a fun fighter.
6. Tana (FE8) - Think Tana's next. Speed, evade, counters. Just totally 1 dimensional. Except does it so well, that it might not matter.
7. Alfina (G3) - Going to say that the tricks out trump Arti's weaknesses. Granted, SP arguments
8. Articuno (PKMN) - Man, after RBY, he's taken a nose dive. But guarantee two turn ID is cool. Keeps some of his other good points, but his damage now makes him clearly worse than what he would be otherwise. Also, easily walled I want to say
9. Jack van Burace (WA1) - ACF form runs into the whole 1 dimensional thing with limited resources. WA1o form...I know that he has lots of variety, which is neat. I also know that some of it is wasted though. In the sense against stronger Heavys, it would rarely matter.
10. Hect (G3) - Throwing SP stuff aside, her best tricks in game just don't translate. Granted, Heaven's Flame! Easily walled there though and that creates issues.
11. Albel Nox (SO3) - Ahaha. Draining yes, but in this pool, he just fails.

Middle:
1. Killey (Suikos) - Think he leads. Good damage for middle + above average speed and a physical back up is solid.
2. Venusaur (PKMN) - And...he might be next >_>! Solid status slinger. Hates his weaknesses, but otherwise covers his bases.
3. Alhazad (WA1) - I waffle between his WA1o form and his ACF form. i know I used to vote on his ACF form with all the bugs, not sure anymore. Regardless, taking the best of his two stances, feels like he fits around here.
4. Valter (FE8) - Mm...yeah. Fails in game- translates a bit too well DL wise.
5. Mog (FF6) - Whee tanking and spoiling. But ARGHELASAS status ;_;
6. Nanaki (FF7) - L1 and L2s are neat. I don't feel like Red has the raw punch to beat out anybody above him though. But status blockers and easy to access limits give him some working room.
7. Harley (DDS) - Don't recall him as impressive. But the damage isnt bad.
8. Kashell (VP1) - Raw HP trumps Nikea today I want to say.
9. Nikea (S5) - Very similar to Kashell I think. Kashell sticks around a bit longer though
10. Eiko Carol (FF9) - Bah resources. Elemental resists are cool. No status resists though. Could easily trade with...
11. Sophia Esteed (SO3) - Her. Bloody Scylla for fun. Pity about that durability. And well, ARPG speed.

Light:
1. Mallow (SMRPG)
2. Bernadette (S5)
3. Fargo (CC)
4. Lowen (FE7)
5. Miranda (G3)
6. Tony (WA:XF) - Pretty clear cutting order. Mallow and Bern are in their own tier as solid light healers. Bern has elemental resists, Mallow has status blockers. Mallow has a touch stronger damage and more usage of his spells, Bern's healing is better and her attack spells have status. Its pretty close in the end.

Fargo and Lowen then beat the other two. Fargo is one of the few competent CCs with good solid damage. Lowen curses his lack of speed, but defense + counters are nice and certainly servicable in Light.

Miranda beats Tony because Tony fails. Fails like Meeplina on Ice.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2008, 02:33:05 PM »
Eh? Eiko has the same status blockers every other FF9 PC has (i.e basically everything in the book but ID >.>) ... unless you disallow the whole FF9 cast status blockers in which case fair enough <.< Yeah Eiko w/o status blockers would definitely lower my ranking of her because silenceble mages = bad~
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2008, 03:41:41 PM »
I need more voters.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2008, 03:56:52 AM »
Godlike:
1.Jade (BoF1)
2.Piastol (SoA)
3.Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
4.Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
5.Genevieve (VP1)
6.Varin Omega (DDS)
7.Luca Blight (S2)
8.Valvalis (FF4)
9.Nate Nanjo (Pers)
10.Ted (S4)
11.Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
12.Melfice (G2)
13.Tibarn (FE9)
14.KOS-MOS (XSs)

Heavy:
1.Ultros (FF6)
2.Scias (BoF4)
3.Groudon (PKMN)
4.Red (Saga)
5.Demi (PS4)
6.Surt (VP1)
7.Gau (FF6)
8.Ryu  (BoF1)
9.Tana (FE8)
10.Articuno (PKMN)
11.Jack van Burace (WA1)
12.Legretta (TotA)
13.Kevin (SD3)
14.Albel Nox (SO3)

Middle:
1.Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
2.Killey (Suikos)
3.Mog (FF6)
4.Valter (FE8)
5.Harley (DDS)
6.Alhazad (WA1)
7.Max (SF1)
8.Venusaur (PKMN)
9.Nanaki (FF7)
10.Judecca (WA2)
11.Marle (CT)
12.Nikea (S5)
13.Kashell (VP1)
14.Sophia Esteed (SO3)
15.Eiko Carol (FF9)

Light:
1.Imoen (BGs)
2.Red Wizard (FF1)
3.Landis (S3)
4.Bernadette (S5)
5.Mallow (SMRPG)
6.Slash (CT)
7.Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
8.Fargo (CC)
9.Lowen (FE7)
10.Meg (Suikos)
11.Chisato Madision (SO2)
12.Miranda (G3)
13.Nei (S3)
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2008, 04:18:48 AM »
Godlike:

1) Piastol (SoA)
2) Jade (BoF1)
3) Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
4) Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs): Well I think it's crazy that VP1 Lenneth is getting ranked around here by some people (I'd put her around Luca's level), but the VP2 form is this good.
5) Varin Omega (DDS)
6) Melfice (G2)
7) Killer (SH3)
8) Gilbert (SH3)
9) Luca Blight (S2)
10) Valvalis (FF4)
11) Tibarn (FE9)
12) Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
13) Genevieve (VP1)
14) KOS-MOS (XSs)


Heavy:

1) Legretta (TotA)
2) Red (Saga)
3) Scias (BoF4)
4) Demi (PS4)
5) Groudon (PKMN)
6) Ryu  (BoF1)
7) Gau (FF6)
8) Tana (FE8)
9) Alfina (G3)
10) Articuno (PKMN)
11) Kevin (SD3)
12) Hect (G3)
13) Albel Nox (SO3)
14) Jack van Burace (WA1)
15) Ultros (FF6)
16) Surt (VP1)

Pre-emptively: Yes, I still don't scale up early Ultros forms, but he can still beat some heavies with form 2 by going first and imping them, which is more than I can say about Surt.

Middle:

1) Nikea (S5)
2) Harley (DDS)
3) Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
4) Alhazad (WA1)
5) Killey (Suikos)
6) Venusaur (PKMN)
7) Max (SF1)
8) Mog (FF6)
9) Valter (FE8)
10) Nanaki (FF7)
11) Eiko Carol (FF9)
12) Kashell (VP1)
13) Sophia Esteed (SO3)
14) Marle (CT)

Light:

1) Landis (S3)
2) Chisato Madision (SO2)
3) Imoen (BGs)
4) Slash (CT)
5) Bernadette (S5)
6) Mallow (SMRPG)
7) Fargo (CC)
8) Miranda (G3)
9) Rozalin (Disgaea 2)
10) Meg (Suikos)
11) Red Wizard (FF1)
12) Lowen (FE7)
13) Nei (S3)
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2008, 04:39:59 AM »
11. Landis (again, dont get the hype for him, he has good speed, but his weapon is so heavy its pointless. Mage spoiler though)
12. Lowen (how do people think he is good, he has no damage)

If you aren't getting the hype for someone, really checking the stat topic to at least get a general idea of their skills is a good idea. You don't have agree with everything in the topic, but if you see people are all having a solid amount of respect for someone but don't know why, the stat topic should at least give a general idea.

Landis has an S in Freeze. This means that he has a 60% chance of stunning his opponent per turn. How many Lights can deal with that?

Lowen's damage is fine. Yes, it's a tad below average, but only that. Also, Defense? He had a lot of it. AS means that he isn't great, but he's not a damage loser either.

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2008, 04:52:08 AM »
Godlike:

1. Jade (BoF1)
2. Piastol (SoA)
3. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
4. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
5. Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
6. Ted (S4)
7. Luca Blight (S2)
8. Killer (SH3)- Ted, Luca, and Killer are all similarly good for very different reasons... sooo gutcheck order here.
9. Varin Omega (DDS)
10. Melfice (G2)
11. Genevieve (VP1)
12. Gilbert (SH3)- Don't tend to consider starting Stock.  Gilbert's hit hard by that.
13. Valvalis (FF4)
14. Tibarn (FE9)
15. KOS-MOS (XSs)
16. Nate Nanjo (Pers)- P2.  So yeah.

Heavy:

1. Ultros (FF6)
2. Hect (G3)
3. Red (Saga)
4. Scias (BoF4)
5. Surt (VP1)
6. Legretta (TotA)
7. Ryu  (BoF1)
8. Groudon (PKMN)
9. Demi (PS4)
10. Jack van Burace (WA1)
11. Articuno (PKMN)
12. Alfina (G3)
13. Gau (FF6)
14. Tana (FE8)
15. Albel Nox (SO3)

This whole field is 'what'.

Middle:

1. Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
2. Killey (Suikos)- Damn him to hell!
3. Alhazad (WA1)
4. Venusaur (PKMN)
5. Sophia Esteed (SO3)
6. Mog (FF6)- Hmm... maybe he should be higher?  Always hard to read.
7. Marle (CT)
8. Nikea (S5)
9. Eiko Carol (FF9)
10. Kashell (VP1)
11. Nanaki (FF7)
12. Valter (FE8)
13. Harley (DDS)
14. Judecca (WA2)- I always just remember him as "the scrub".  Although probably better than Vinsfeld!?  I think.

Light:

1. Landis (S3)
2. Corselia (ST)- Proving Grounds has generally proved its point, here.
3. Mallow (SMRPG)
4. Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
5. Slash (CT)- I.. think?  Apparently my memory of him is terrible, counters probably put him here or something.
6. Bernadette (S5)
7. Meg (Suikos)
8. Fargo (CC)
9. Lowen (FE7)
10. Rozalin (Disgaea 2)
11. Miranda (G3)
12. Red Wizard (FF1)
13. Nei (S3)
14. Tony (WA:XF)- *cough*
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2008, 06:21:15 PM »
Godlike:

1   Jade (BoF1)
2   Melfice (G2)
3   Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
4   Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
5   Genevieve (VP1)
6   Luca Blight (S2)
7   Gilbert (SH3)
8   Nate Nanjo (Pers)
9   Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
10   Killer (SH3)
11   Valvalis (FF4)
12   Tibarn (FE9)
13   Ted (S4)
14   KOS-MOS (XSs)


Heavy:

1   Groudon (PKMN)
2   Red (Saga)
3   Demi (PS4)
4   Legretta (TotA)
5   Surt (VP1)
6   Albel Nox (SO3)
7   Ryu  (BoF1)
8   Kevin (SD3)
9   Jack van Burace (WA1)
10   Scias (BoF4)
11   Gau (FF6)
12   Tana (FE8)
13   Ultros (FF6)




Middle:

1   Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
2   Sophia Esteed (SO3)
3   Marle (CT)
4   Mog (FF6)
5   Max (SF1)
6   Killey (Suikos)
7   Nikea (S5)
8   Eiko Carol (FF9)
9   Venusaur (PKMN)
10   Nanaki (FF7)
11   Valter (FE8)
12   Slade (SF2)
13   Kashell (VP1)



Light:

1   Chisato Madision (SO2)
2   Mallow (SMRPG)
3   Fargo (CC)
4   Bernadette (S5)
5   Landis (S3)
6   Lowen (FE7)
7   Slash (CT)
8   Meg (Suikos)
9   Red Wizard (FF1)
10   Nei (S3)
11   Tony (WA:XF) (Assuming this is supposed to be WA4, if not, don't count it)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2008, 07:21:44 PM »
Godlike:

1. Jade (BoF1)
2. Piastol (SoA)
3. Melfice (G2)
4. Genevieve (VP1)
5. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
6. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
7. Ted (S4)
8. Luca Blight (S2)
9. Gilbert (SH3)
10. Varin Omega (DDS)
11. Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
12. Killer (SH3)
13. Valvalis (FF4)
14. Nate Nanjo (Pers)
15. Tibarn (FE9)
16. KOS-MOS (XSs)

Heavy:

1. Surt (VP1)
2. Ultros (FF6)
3. Red (Saga)
4. Groudon (PKMN)
5. Kevin (SD3)
6. Scias (BoF4)
7. Legretta (TotA)
8. Gau (FF6)
9. Ryu  (BoF1)
10. Demi (PS4)
11. Articuno (PKMN)
12. Alfina (G3)
13. Hect (G3)
14. Jack van Burace (WA1)
15. Albel Nox (SO3)
16. Tana (FE8)

Middle:

1. Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
2. Venusaur (PKMN)
3. Killey (Suikos)
4. Max (SF1)
5. Nanaki (FF7)
6. Eiko Carol (FF9)
7. Kashell (VP1)
8.Mog (FF6)
9. Marle (CT)
10. Sophia Esteed (SO3)
11. Alhazad (WA1)
12. Judecca (WA2)
13. Valter (FE8)
14. Harley (DDS)
15. Slade (SF2)


Light:

1. Red Wizard (FF1)
2. Corselia (ST)
3. Bernadette (S5)
4. Landis (S3)
5. Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
6. Imoen (BGs)
7. Meg (Suikos)
8. Mallow (SMRPG)
9. Lowen (FE7)
10. Fargo (CC)
11. Miranda (G3)
12. Chisato Madision (SO2)
13. Slash (CT)
14. Rozalin (Disgaea 2)
15. Nei (S3)
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2008, 04:52:54 AM »
Halfassed as usual.

Godlike:

1) Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
2) Tibarn (FE9)
3) Jade (BoF1)
4) Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
5) Nate Nanjo (Pers)
6) Killer (SH3)
7) Gilbert (SH3)
8) Melfice (G2)
9) Varin Omega (DDS)
10) KOS-MOS (XSs)
11) Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
12) Ted (S4)
13) Valvalis (FF4)
14) Luca Blight (S2)
15) Genevieve (VP1)

Piastol (SoA) - I don't give a fuck, boot this bitch.

Heavy:

1( Gau (FF6)
2) Demi (PS4)
3) Ryu  (BoF1)
4) Alfina (G3)
5) Hect (G3)
6) Red (Saga)
7) Tana (FE8)
8) Ultros (FF6)
9) Legretta (TotA)
10) Articuno (PKMN)
11) Jack van Burace (WA1)
12) Scias (BoF4)
13) Albel Nox (SO3)
14) Groudon (PKMN)
15) Surt (VP1)

Middle:

1( Eiko Carol (FF9)
2) Mog (FF6)
3) Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
4) Killey (Suikos)
5) Alhazad (WA1)
6) Marle (CT)
7) Venusaur (PKMN)
8) Nanaki (FF7)
9) Kashell (VP1)
10) Nikea (S5)
11) Harley (DDS)
12) Judecca (WA2)
13) Valter (FE8)
14) Sophia Esteed (SO3)

Light:

1) Red Wizard (FF1)
2) Corselia (ST)
3) Bernadette (S5)
4) Mallow (SMRPG)
5) Miranda (G3)
6) Meg (Suikos)
7) Rozalin (Disgaea 2)
8) Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
9) Slash (CT)
10) Lowen (FE7)
11) Chisato Madision (SO2)
12) Fargo (CC)
13) Landis (S3)
14) Nei (S3)
15) Tony (WA:XF)

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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2008, 05:36:33 AM »
Godlike:

1. Piastol (SoA)
2. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
3. Jade (BoF1)
4. Luca Blight (S2)
5. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
6. Melfice (G2)
7. Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
8. Ted (S4)
9. Genevieve (VP1)
10. Valvalis (FF4)

Heavy:

1. Jack van Burace (WA1)
2. Red (Saga)
3. Ryu  (BoF1)
4. Legretta (TotA)
5. Surt (VP1)
6. Scias (BoF4)
7. Alfina (G3)
8. Hect (G3)
9. Albel Nox (SO3)
10. Tana (FE8)
11. Gau (FF6)
12. Ultros (FF6)

Middle:

1. Eiko Carol (FF9)
2. Marle (CT)
3. Kashell (VP1)
4. Alhazad (WA1)
5. Judecca (WA2)
6. Killey (Suikos)
7. Nanaki (FF7)
8. Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
9. Valter (FE8)
10. Sophia Esteed (SO3)
11. Mog (FF6)

Light:

1. Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
2. Rozalin (Disgaea 2)
3. Miranda (G3)
4. Red Wizard (FF1)
5. Chisato Madision (SO2)
6. Landis (S3)
7. Nei (S3)
8. Slash (CT)
9. Lowen (FE7)
10. Meg (Suikos)
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Re: List topic reborn: Round 1, Week 5
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2008, 07:01:39 AM »
Godlike:

1. Jade (BoF1)
2. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)
3. Varin Omega (DDS)
4. Xenobia (Lunar:SSSC)
5. Lenneth Valkyrie (VPs)
6. Luca Blight (S2)
7. Valvalis (FF4)
8. Ted (S4)
9. Melfice (G2)
10. Tibarn (FE9)
11. KOS-MOS (XSs)


Heavy:
1. Surt (VP1)
2. Scias (BoF4)
3. Hect (G3)
4. Groudon (PKMN)
5. Red (Saga)
6. Ryu (BoF1)
7. Alfina (G3)
8. Articuno (PKMN)
9. Gau (FF6)
10. Tana (FE8)
11. Ultros (FF6)
12. Demi (PS4)
13. Kevin (SD3)
14.Jack van Burace (WA1)
15. Albel Nox (SO3)
16. Legretta (TotA)

Middle:
1. Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)
2. Valter (FE8)
3. Killey (Suikos)
4. Max (SF1)
5 .Mog (FF6)
6. Venusaur (PKMN)
7. Slade (SF2)
8. Marle (CT)
9. Nanaki (FF7)
10. Eiko Carol (FF9)
11. Nikea (S5)
12. Kashell (VP1)
13. Harley (DDS)
14. Judecca (WA2)
15. Sophia Esteed (SO3)

Light:

1. Landis (S3)
2. Mallow (SMRPG)
3. Slash (CT)
4. Bernadette (S5)
5. Lowen (FE7)
6. Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2)
7. Red Wizard (FF1)
8. Meg (Suikos)
9. Corselia (ST)
10. Miranda (G3)
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