Author Topic: LFT: An FFT mod (The final release is a lie. Download here!) (Read 456288 times)

Hoxir · « **Reply #1825 on:** December 14, 2011, 09:07:45 PM »

Mmm, got it.

I have a suggestion. Why can't Cloud equip Knight Swords? You see, his main weapon on FF7 is a DAMN large sword, and Knight Swords on FFT seem to be almost like this: large and heavy swords that only knights can use. But Cloud is a Soldier, he's more than a Knight!

And large swords are no problem for him.

Another suggestion is to turn perfumes equipable for him, too. He can equip ribbons, mostly a joke for his crossdressing on FF7. But this joke has to be complete! He used a ribbon AND a perfume, on FF7.

Hah, almost forgot. Why Limit skills are based on MA?

(One more question: the Elemental Strength effect of some itens doesn't stack with each other? A Kaiser Plate with a Black Robe do not boost the Fire, Lightining and Ice elements twice?)

SageAcrin · « **Reply #1826 on:** December 14, 2011, 09:56:48 PM »

No one really knows why Limit was based on MA before.

It's pretty cool, which is presumably why LFT didn't change it. But it never made a whole lot of sense.

(Blade Beam/Climnhazard/Finishing Touch run off your HP(for the first two; Blade Beam based on how much damage Cloud's taken, and Clim on how much the *target* has taken) and a fixed chance of status(for the latter), though. And always did, again.)

Laggy · « **Reply #1827 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:13:46 PM »

Knight Swords are a quirk that's already given to no less than three special characters (Agrias, Orlandu, Meliadoul) and I didn't want to hand it out even more.

I probably should have let him have Perfumes, though. That makes a surprising amount of sense >_>

--

Part 4 of Chimp's LP is also here!

metroid composite · « **Reply #1828 on:** December 14, 2011, 11:01:42 PM »

Beowulf and Ramza can also use knight swords (five special characters).

Grefter · « **Reply #1829 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:02:47 AM »

I always read the Ribbons being allowed more because Ribbons are unisex in FF7. Limit based on MA just because it is interesting and relatively unique being the only special physical attack running off MA and it is nice to have something fill that niche beyond Staff, Rod and Stick.

Edit - Not that this really bothers me if you make him able to use perfumes since it certainly is part of the drag quest in FF7.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #1830 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:46:11 AM »

I always though Cloud should have innate two-hands myself. Not like he can use shields anyway. Granted this doesn't really help him, but it's a quirk!

VySaika · « **Reply #1831 on:** December 15, 2011, 04:16:44 PM »

note that in Dissidia 012(I forget if he can in the original), Cloud can use all of the female only equips. I'd be all for him getting perfumes and even bags(not that anyone would use them, but just because).

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1832 on:** December 15, 2011, 04:40:08 PM »

Turn the Materia Blade into the Materia Bag, glory abounds.

Hoxir · « **Reply #1833 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:28:08 PM »

Mmm, ok... I still think that Knight Swords make sense to him, but that would overpower him. I agree with the Two Hands argument, though. He almost always uses his swords with two hands (mostly because they're giant).

Bags and perfumes to Cloud!

TranceHime · « **Reply #1834 on:** December 16, 2011, 07:34:38 AM »

Quote from: Gatewalker on December 15, 2011, 04:16:44 PM

note that in Dissidia 012(I forget if he can in the original), Cloud can use all of the female only equips. I'd be all for him getting perfumes and even bags(not that anyone would use them, but just because).

it makes sense, in original ff7 he looks damn girlier than some of the other girls (both PCs and NPCs) in that loving scene. :V

Nitori · « **Reply #1835 on:** December 16, 2011, 10:16:09 AM »

i am the master of lft

Hoxir · « **Reply #1836 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:56:48 PM »

Guys.

Elidibis doesn't have Zodiac anymore? He just keeps spamming Midgard Swarm/Zolom...

Laggy · « **Reply #1837 on:** December 17, 2011, 06:02:09 PM »

He has it, but you have to give him a reason to use it over those two abilities.

AND YES LFT UPDATE I HATE YOU ALL:

1. Bug fix - Reinforce is now properly limited to 2 vertical instead of infinite.
2. Bug fix - Grand Helmet on Lancer in rare Doguola Pass fight is now set on his head instead of his body.
3. Bug fix (PSP version only) - Lots of ASM edits apparently were not set, like Equip Bow or evasion while performing. These should now work correctly.
4. Innate RSM for classes can no longer be actively set to avoid redundant decisions (i.e. you can't set Defense UP on Knights or Two Hands on Samurai). This works identically to vanilla's similar restrictions with Throw Item on Chemist and Two Swords on Ninjas.
5. JP scroll fix should be applied (if it still works, it's because the ASM edit doesn't work). Item duplication will stay in because the only known fix involves removing the Best Fit feature, which is unacceptable to me as a tradeoff.
6. DD rare fights (except NOGIAS) are now 50% instead of 25%, to make finding them less frustrating while leaving open the option to get a normal fight to proceed deeper into the DD/sanely get MFI items.
7. Cloud can now equip Perfumes while in Soldier class. Why do you make me do these things.

Hoxir · « **Reply #1838 on:** December 17, 2011, 07:56:36 PM »

Waaah, so I missed the Zodiac. Couldn't force him to use it.

I heard that is possible to learn Zodiac on the rare fight of Bervenia. Who casts it? The Void Knight?

Nice updates.

Perfumes on Cloud NOW!

Update:

Remember the dual helmet lancer that you fixed, Laggy?

I was testing the END rare battles and encountered the Tiny Ko Army. I asked before but no one answered... the first time that we meet the Ko mages was in the sidequest of Beowulf. That time there were a lot of Ko mages with Angel Ring but that were always with Reraise (like Chantage). Guess it's the intention...

But this time, they're carrying Ribbons on their hands! And the log on the first page of this topic says that is possible to get ribbon, barette e cachusha (no numbers, so I guessed it was just one of each). Ah, and they're rerasing without Chantages, too. O_o Hardcore.

Here's the case:

They're a total of nine Ko time mages with the same set of equips, including a ribbon on the hand.

Laggy · « **Reply #1839 on:** December 17, 2011, 10:02:55 PM »

Yes, that one is intentional. And no, Irius is the one that uses Zodiac at Bervenia Volcano.

SEKRIT RICHARD NINJA MONSTER EDIT BECAUSE I'M PATCHING LFT ANYWAY
Death Sentence range 3 -> 7
Look of Devil hit rate -> 100%
Circle/Look of Fright range 3 -> 5
Black Ink mult 4 -> 5
Mindraves have Mind Blast -> Disillusion
Mindrave HP mult 92 -> 192

I will upload this update in a couple of hours whenever Comcast gets around to fixing internet on my main PC.

Hoxir · « **Reply #1840 on:** December 17, 2011, 11:41:11 PM »

Not sure if this is an error. Pay attention to the skillset...

Laggy · « **Reply #1841 on:** December 18, 2011, 01:00:05 AM »

That's, uh, odd. Is that the only case in which you can set the primary skillset also as the secondary skillset that you can find?

Grefter · « **Reply #1842 on:** December 18, 2011, 01:08:38 AM »

I think what Laggy means to say is that no matter how hard you push it there really is no limit.

Laggy · « **Reply #1843 on:** December 18, 2011, 08:03:00 AM »

literally updated

Hoxir · « **Reply #1844 on:** December 19, 2011, 01:43:50 PM »

Yeah, it was the only one. Cloud was a Knight with Limit as secondary skillset, and then I changed him to Soldier to test the ability to equip Perfumes... and tadah: two Limits.

Update: it seems that happens with everyone. You can check. Put a secondary skill and then change into the job that has that skill — you'll mantain both slots with the same skill.

(Let's try pressing more)

Couldn't Cloud equip katanas in FF7?

Dark Holy Elf · « **Reply #1845 on:** December 19, 2011, 04:13:28 PM »

Another bug I've never encountered, strangeness. Also no, Cloud could not equip katanas in vanilla. EDIT: read FF7 as FFT, dunno how that happened.

metroid composite · « **Reply #1846 on:** December 19, 2011, 07:04:49 PM »

Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on December 19, 2011, 04:13:28 PM

Another bug I've never encountered, strangeness.

Probably a result of the most recent ASM additions, then. Try removing them and seeing if the bug goes away.

Grefter · « **Reply #1847 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:42:06 PM »

FF7 has two swords that are katanas. That said I think giving them to Cloud is possibl pushing Soldier a bit much as a Samurai that hits the ground running (MA based class that doesn't use MP that can use physicals...). Giving him perfumes is neat and all. Throwing in more weapons is kind of kitchen sinking him. One is a reference to a funny plot scene. One is a reference to middling power swords of which there is a good chance you only used one (Yoshiyuki is lacking in materia slots), Murasame is bought from Wutai (optional area) and obsoleted by Icicle Inn, so you have it for 3 dungeons I think, which isn't bad for representation of a weapon in FF7, but pretty far from iconic or anything.

Also the tester in me asks to make sure it is able to be replicated by someone else on a clean disc image. Probably able to replicate, but standard procedure for a reason etc.

Laggy · « **Reply #1848 on:** December 19, 2011, 09:17:35 PM »

It's a largely harmless bug, but I suspect the innate RSM one did it. I'll check later, but it doesn't affect gameplay functionality at all and won't affect enemy generics.

Nitori · « **Reply #1849 on:** December 20, 2011, 09:49:04 AM »

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Author Topic: LFT: An FFT mod (The final release is a lie. Download here!) (Read 456288 times)