Season 48, Week 2 - Sephiroth joins the pedo police. Albedo flees the country.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4)
Ted (S4) vs. Violetta (G3)
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Patriarch Sergius XVIII (XS2)
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7)

Heavy:

Rydia (FF4) vs. Maya Amano (Pers2)
Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2)
Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2)
Gilder (SoA) vs. Claude Kenni (SO2)

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1)
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7)
Sania (AtLC) vs. Ragnar McRyan (DQ4)
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1)

Light:

Snowe Vingerhut (S4) vs. Sten (BoF2)
Bartre (FE7) vs. Maria Balthasar (XG)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3)
Augst Henriksen (WA4) vs. Titania (FE9)

[Taishyr]

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4) - What statuses does CoD get from Bad Breath, again? (I allow Minerva - FF4o)

Heavy:

Rydia (FF4) vs. Maya Amano (Pers2) - Complete and utter slaughter.
Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2) - Need to look at this one. Neither really likes my 3.0 standard, but gut says Hallec still wins.

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1) - yeeeeeeeep.
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7) - uuuuh

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4) - uuuuuuuuuuh.
Ted (S4) vs. Violetta (G3) - Violently kneejerking a OHKO. If she doesn't OHKO, she needs to insta-lap Ted. Both of these are plausible, and she only needs one.
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7) - OHKOs, the rest is history.

Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2) - Hallec 2HKOs without Wrath Rune and goes first. That's game.
Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2) - zuuuuuuuuuuh. Seed 2HKOs Dyce and goes first, and I don't think Dyce OHKOs back. This means yeah, Seed manages a kill past evade even if you have massive Aegis respect, I think.

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1) - Copper Flesh.
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7) - Uhhhhh. I... guess?
Sania (AtLC) vs. Ragnar McRyan (DQ4) - This is Sania's type of fight.
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1) - Meanwhile, Darksol gets 2HKOed and goes last. Probably would lose even if he went first, his damage sucks.

Snowe Vingerhut (S4) vs. Sten (BoF2) - Healing vs. non-healing off limited resources. I guess.
Bartre (FE7) vs. Maria Balthasar (XG) - Maria.
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3) - Connie.

[superaielman]

Godlike:

Ted (S4) vs. Violetta (G3)- Don't think she gets the double.
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Patriarch Sergius XVIII (XS2)- Crits should be enough. Good fight.
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7)

Heavy:

Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2)
Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2)
Gilder (SoA) vs. Claude Kenni (SO2)

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1)
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7)- Kneejerk.
Sania (AtLC) vs. Ragnar McRyan (DQ4)- Ragnar can't handle status at all.
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1)- Pending booting up SF1r and checking, which I will. Don't think Darksol comple.. wait, Mres. Never mind.

Light:

Snowe Vingerhut (S4) vs. Sten (BoF2)- It's Sten.
Bartre (FE7) vs. Maria Balthasar (XG)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3)

[Monkeyfinger]

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4): Shouldn't CoD be able to just splatter Rosa with a doubled physical, or at least squeeze her out of resources, or something?
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Patriarch Sergius XVIII (XS2)
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7)

Heavy:

Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2): I don't see him getting 2HKOed.
Gilder (SoA) vs. Claude Kenni (SO2)

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1)
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7)
Sania (AtLC) vs. Ragnar McRyan (DQ4)
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1)

Light:

Bartre (FE7) vs. Maria Balthasar (XG)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3)
Augst Henriksen (WA4) vs. Titania (FE9)

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4): Shouldn't CoD be able to just splatter Rosa with a doubled physical, or at least squeeze her out of resources, or something?

I don't think 3DS CoD vs. Rosa would even be a fight (Minerva only blocks ID IIRC, Bad Breath has a bunch of status). Issue is 3j CoD, who sorta mocks Rosa damage but also has a few issues actually -killing- her due to 3HKOing. So, I dunno.

[Dhyerwolf]

Godlike:

Ted (S4) vs. Violetta (G3)- Violetta+Scythe=Easy Murdering
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Patriarch Sergius XVIII (XS2)- Considering that Patriarch has such a massive HP edge to start with and is faster, and Leopold isn't all that great on damage...seems to lean more towards the Pat to me. Fool's Punishment is not Leopold's friend, because Leopold is not so hot on the stat down protections. Maybe if crits had any hit rate worth noting at all.
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7)

Heavy:

Rydia (FF4) vs. Maya Amano (Pers2)
Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2)
Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2)- Seed probably. The cumulative HP is hilarious though.
Gilder (SoA) vs. Claude Kenni (SO2)

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1)
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7)- Elena like 5HKOs or something? Really not good against FF 7 limits
Sania (AtLC) vs. Ragnar McRyan (DQ4)
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1)- Is faster, and his damage is magic based, or something. I will not be sad when the site votes the other way though.

Light:

Snowe Vingerhut (S4) vs. Sten (BoF2)
Bartre (FE7) vs. Maria Balthasar (XG)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3)
Augst Henriksen (WA4) vs. Titania (FE9)

[Starphoenix das Helpoemer]

Heavy:

Rydia (FF4) vs. Maya Amano (Pers2) - Can't vote technically, but if Rydia's offense is anywhere close to Magical, she gets slaughtered.
Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2) - Ashley? Unsure who hits faster and stronger: Enraged Hallec, or Knight Blazer Ashley.
Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2) - Is form chain allowed? Holy Sword and Mighty Sword I think take this.
Gilder (SoA) vs. Claude Kenni (SO2) - Claude by virtue of outdamage potential.

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1) - Eileen, by virtue of Earth Rune.
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7) - I'll go with arguments for Limits winning this... but didn't Elena have a Charm spell or something?

Light:

Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3) - Doesn't Melody come out of this fight without taking damage? That's actually pretty sad... even for Light... Connie not doing damage that is, not the Melody coming out unscathed.

[Pyro]

Starphoenix, Ashley has to live to 100FP to access Knight Blazer, which is somewhat difficult for him here. And even after he does he starts at 0FP again and isn't healed by transforming. He'd want to use his 75FP Full Clip skill to kill Hallec, which he can't really do because he doesn't get a turn with 75FP, I don't think.

[Nitori]

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4)
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Patriarch Sergius XVIII (XS2) - Yay ITD crits oh wait
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7)

Heavy:

Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2)

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1) - She is so going to get robbed but not here
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7)
Sania (AtLC) vs. Ragnar McRyan (DQ4)
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1) - Shining Force

Light:

Snowe Vingerhut (S4) vs. Sten (BoF2) - Snowe's healing is as limited as hell and it sucks. Elf wins~
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3) - No vote but Ko always wins
Augst Henriksen (WA4) vs. Titania (FE9)

[Ultradude]

Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7): Hmmm... Miiight be an argument for XS2 Albedo, XS1 sucks in Godlike to begin with though.

Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7)

Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3): Stage 1 of Operation: Light Champion Melody... complete!

[OblivionKnight]

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4) - Dark Cloud.  Get down to Heavy, Rosa.
Ted (S4) vs. Violetta (G3) - Violetta.  Ted gets nuked right away, can't drain his way to victory, whatever.
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Patriarch Sergius XVIII (XS2) - Sergius.  Durabiltier, and the combos and support skills work so nicely.
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7) - Albedo.  Sephy can't touch the XS2 form.

Heavy:

Rydia (FF4) vs. Maya Amano (Pers2) - Maya. 
Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2) - Ashley.  Likes me taking levels higher, I think.
Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2) - ...fuck this.
Gilder (SoA) vs. Claude Kenni (SO2) - Claude.  Heals, I guess.  Gilder wishes he had S-Moves that were designed for damage, not crowd control.

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1) - Eileen. 
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7) - Elena.  Boss.
Sania (AtLC) vs. Ragnar McRyan (DQ4) - Sania.
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1) - Darksol.  ShitD form for the win here.

Light:

Snowe Vingerhut (S4) vs. Sten (BoF2) - Snowe.  Heals.
Bartre (FE7) vs. Maria Balthasar (XG) - Bartre.  Brave Axe, IIRC.  Wins it.
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3) - Melody.
Augst Henriksen (WA4) vs. Titania (FE9) - ...mmm...probably Augst.

[James_xeno]

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4)
Ted (S4) vs. Violetta (G3)
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Patriarch Sergius XVIII (XS2)
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7)


Heavy:

Rydia (FF4) vs. Maya Amano (Pers2)
Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2)
Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2)
Gilder (SoA) vs. Claude Kenni (SO2)


Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1)
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7)
Sania (AtLC) vs. Ragnar McRyan (DQ4)
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1)


Light:

Snowe Vingerhut (S4) vs. Sten (BoF2)
Bartre (FE7) vs. Maria Balthasar (XG)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3)
Augst Henriksen (WA4) vs. Titania (FE9)

[Taishyr]

After a quick check, I think Ashley wins due to two interps: my usual 3.0x durability rule, and considering the cast to start at 55 FP (yeah, that's where I'd pin endgame). This being said, mileage, vary, blah blah blah.

[Pyro]

Ashley still shouldn't win...

Hallec: Wrath
Ashley Attack

Hallec: attack
Ashley: Attack

Hallec: Attack, Ashley Dies.

Unless you see Ashley getting the FP from Hallec's first attack, he can't win. The problem with that is that Ashley can't access FP from enemies that attack before him in a round. I feel this should translate to the DL in some fashion (Alternatively if you want to ignore that aspect in the conversion to CTB then Hallec may 4-3 anyway).

[Taishyr]

I don't consider it translating, no. It's a system issue that I just throw out, personally. My apologies, I neglected to note that.

[Pyro]

You should probably give a little more credit to WA2 speed, then. (and L2 speed, and so on and so forth)

And Hallec may still 4-3 Ashley. You'd have to look that up.

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4): Can't vote, but its not like Rosa is status immune. I'm sure Bad Breath includes SOMETHING that rapes her.
Ted (S4) vs. Violetta (G3): Multi-part bosses are still allowed.
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7): I guess.

Heavy:

Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2)
Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2): Yuck.
Gilder (SoA) vs. Claude Kenni (SO2): Nothing Gilder can do to prevent Claude from ripping him a new one. No pun intended.

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1): Lalala Invincibility.
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7)
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1): I guess...

Light:

Snowe Vingerhut (S4) vs. Sten (BoF2): I guess he had a Water rune?
Bartre (FE7) vs. Maria Balthasar (XG)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3): $*&#($*
Augst Henriksen (WA4) vs. Titania (FE9) *$&#(*$

[Starphoenix das Helpoemer]

Can't Ashley defend until he has enough FP for a Full Clip? Or am I being entirely too optimistic about his chances of getting it off?

[Cmdr_King]

If memory serves, WA2 defend halves damage in exchange for nuking FP gains.  In addition to not getting any from attacking, I don't think he gets any kind of net profit with that strategy.  Hallec's accuracy is questionable enough that he... could plausibly dodge a hit or two and make up the difference?  But I doubt it's enough (I also don't remember if Hallec's iffy accuracy was with or without the Accuracy skill, or what he'd have to give up to use it if not.)

[Fudozukushi]

If memory serves, WA2 defend halves damage in exchange for nuking FP gains.  In addition to not getting any from attacking, I don't think he gets any kind of net profit with that strategy.  Hallec's accuracy is questionable enough that he... could plausibly dodge a hit or two and make up the difference?  But I doubt it's enough (I also don't remember if Hallec's iffy accuracy was with or without the Accuracy skill, or what he'd have to give up to use it if not.)

According to the stat topic, defending doubles FP gains.  Dodging giving 24 FP.

[Dhyerwolf]

If memory serves, WA2 defend halves damage in exchange for nuking FP gains.  In addition to not getting any from attacking, I don't think he gets any kind of net profit with that strategy.  Hallec's accuracy is questionable enough that he... could plausibly dodge a hit or two and make up the difference?  But I doubt it's enough (I also don't remember if Hallec's iffy accuracy was with or without the Accuracy skill, or what he'd have to give up to use it if not.)

Hallec's accuracy even without Accuracy skill is fine (Below average, but not horrid). Throw in Accuracy and he's above average. That said, I guess Defend may actually make me change my vote since doubling FP gains could be pretty effective. I guess it depends on if it gets Ashley that Full Clip.

[Pyro]

If Ashley defends Hallec just sits there and nothing really happens. Ashley does not get FP just for defending, he must be attacked. Its an infinite stalling technique *punts*

[Cmdr_King]

And that's why I don't allow defend/wait commands as a rule.  But hey, it's better to argue people within their own interps where possible.

That said, gaining more FP while defending?  WA2 finds so many little ways to be broke.

[Dark Holy Elf]

WA2 defending gives the FP you'd get if you didn't Defend, so it's more relative to the damage you take, but not more overall. Just throwing it out there.

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4): Bad Breath, or a simple "lol double physical ur dead". Rosa could probably pull this out against 3o? Not sure.
Ted (S4) vs. Violetta (G3): OHKO. I think she pulls it off by stat topic numbers? But I see Violetta's damage a bit higher anyway.
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Patriarch Sergius XVIII (XS2): Don't think I'd see ITD crits ignoring his weakness to physicals. And Patriarch sucks at damage, and Leo has 50% stat down resistance (which is good for a DQ8 boss, not sure where Dhyer is coming from).
Albedo Piazzola (XSs) vs. Sephiroth (FF7): Yeah.

Heavy:

Hallec (S3) vs. Ashley Winchester (WA2): Pyro summed it up pretty well. Plus WA2 endgame above 50 is pure nonsense to me, at that point you could summon-nuke everything in existence off the face of the planet and while WA2 enemies are bad, they were clearly designed not to be quite THAT bad. (Also I was 41; I am open to arguments I was underlevelled, but not by 10.)
Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2): Don't think he's OHKOed.

Middle:

Alen (S1) vs. Eileen (S1): Poor Alen. On the other hand, we finally get an Eileen run?
Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7): Charm blocker, should... probably get a decent limit off. Good HP helps.
Ronnie Bell (S1) vs. Darksol (SF1): Darklol.

Light:

Snowe Vingerhut (S4) vs. Sten (BoF2): STEN! Gut says Sten can pull it out, since he puts a lot of pressure on Snow's slow and highly limited healing, and the uneven damage due to crits is not somethnig a healer likes.
Bartre (FE7) vs. Maria Balthasar (XG): Maria fails to double.
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3): Connie.
Augst Henriksen (WA4) vs. Titania (FE9): Augst. ;__; So close to Augst/Connie.

[Rozalia]

Godlike:

Cloud of Darkness (FF3) vs. Rosa Harvey (FF4)

Heavy:

Dycedarg Beoulve (FFT) vs. Seed (S2) - Formchains if he needs it.

Middle:

Barret Wallace (FF7) vs. Elena (FF7) - Elena wishs her confusion trick didn't suck.

Light:

Melody Vilente (WA3) vs. Connie (S3)
Augst Henriksen (WA4) vs. Titania (FE9) - Whats with WA4 bosses drawing FE characters.