Well, going to get one actual Post With Content in before I crash for the night while the game's still hopping. I'll check the game when I get back to work in the morning. Night all!
Shale - Only 3 posts so far, but I'm not getting a read as anything but town at the moment. And he's finding the same problem with Tom ringing true as I do. But a day 1 read is superficial at best.
Cmdr_King - Acting very much a townie. Voting for low post counters and moving the vote onto someone else who needs to talk more when the original target picks up pace.
EvilTom - I'm getting some scummy vibes here. To actually sketch out my thoughts on this:
1-"Get a new tell, Carthrat, this one is boring me~". ?! Let's just use some common sense. If you take the statement seriously, it seems rather odd. If a person has a tell when they're scum, then for HEAVEN'S sake, let them keep it! It only helps town. If you're just being facetious, then *shrug*, it's day 1 antics. I'm not sure which side of the river this one was intended but I'll give you the beenfit of the doubt even here and assume you were being facetious. Especially since he's said since that it was a joke comment anyway.
2-The line above being given when Rat votes for Unoriginal for his...well, unoriginal idea of assisted suicide. And then Tom goes and MAKES THE SAME vote just 4 posts later. o.O Now we're leaving the 'joke vote' realm and just getting weird.
3-"Ok good, I can go back to voting for someone who looks like scum." He looks like scum to you a couple hours into the game with just (at the time) 4 posts to his name? You can attribute it to a gut feeling perhaps or just metagaming that you think he's always scum (and can't argue that point, he often is), but I'd really like to know where in his first few posts you can get 'looks like scum'.
4-Your reply to Smodge was unhelpful and actually looked like something resembling either a bad smokescreen or just plain bad judgement. Not sure which. Bad town play, bad scum play, take your pick, they're both a bad play. Saying he answered his own question was as useless as never responding to the comment in the first place. It just looks like an inflated post count now.
5-The No Lynch vote thing has been talked over to death so I'm not going to re-hash it. But it bears keeping in mind and did influence my thoughts so is included here. And if you're a townie, baiting like that shows a lack of paying attention. It's been done before and all it ever nets is the rest of town coming down on your head for it.
6-I find it odd that you were being so obtuse with a rather simple and, from my perspective at least, you all correct me if I'm wrong here, correction by Smodge to your comment that a dead cop and a dead vanilla townie ARE different. Day 2 will come soon enough and while NOW, yes there is no difference because it's Day 1 and there is no real distinction, when we look BACK on Day 1 later on, these things actually do mean a lot. You are real quick with the 'his words mean nothing' quips. It looks again like bad smokescreening. 'Pay no attention to the man behind the curtains' sort of thing. Bad play, scum or town.
7-Roleclaim. Seriously. What were you thinking. Now, if your a townie, the scum are sitting there trying to figure out if you're worth killing. You could easily claim vanilla without being so because you have several time retracted comments with an 'I'm joking' or 'I'm just trying to spur conversation'. The more times you do this, the less often we can take anything you say seriously. You reduce your own credability. As a townie (and we're considering you that for the sake of the example), this is bad juju. Now, if you're scum and make that comment, it STILL means nothing because townies can all take into consideration the previous example. It just reduces your credability with us. And townies need to BUILD credability with other townies, not the reverse. OR, as Rat says, they'll ignore you now and go after people who might have the better roles because they rule you out as being vanilla. Either way, if you're town, not the smartest thing to do.
8-I don't see where you can't see where we're seeing you being defensive. Just look at your last two replies to Rat. Right there is all the defensive you should need to see: 'Trying to make me look worse than I am in order to avoid defending yourself from the points I just made about you. 'Super-bad'? 'Foolish action'? FYI, a 'No Lynch' is a valid option and part of the rules. It may not be the best option, but suggesting it as a possibility if we have no lurkers is hardly a definite scum tell. And if you think it is, you have to remember that there is no 100% correct rigid guideline for how to play. "All scum play like this" is narrow-minded, and WIFOM.' or, my PERSONAL favorite defensive post: 'I'm noticing you don't like to use real quotes, instea dyou like to make up ones that take my comments out of context and make me look bad. I'm not going to argue with you anymore if you're going to keep doing that.'
Now, after that wall of words, I am most definately sitting on my vote through tomorrow. I can't see any way for Tom to convince me that he's town at this point.
Carthrat - I always suspect Rat of being scum (because Hatbot loves to make him so), but nothing stands out to me yet to confim.
Otter - Posting would be good now. I'll look for one when I log back on in the morning.
Not getting a vibe one way or the other: The rest of ya'll. (Sorry, my Texan roots are showing there.)
