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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2250 on: October 03, 2009, 10:31:57 PM »
Nah, even striking up a random conversation on a bus can vastly improve a commute, provided the other person isn't crazy. Which, admittedly, is a risk.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2251 on: October 04, 2009, 12:32:43 AM »
What are we all, six? The majority of people you will meet, even if they're strangers, will either ignore you or actively try to be pleasant. "Not talking to strangers" is a recipe for living your life as an isolated, unhappy shell.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2252 on: October 04, 2009, 02:20:58 AM »
As I said, avoid talking to people who -you don't have some reason to talk to-. Be it people in the same workplace/school/college/whatever, people with shared interests or just people who look pretty awesome, there are a number of people who you have reason to talk to. I'm just saying that random people on buses don't really fit into that, generally.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2253 on: October 04, 2009, 03:26:58 AM »
*Does not talk to strangers*
*expects life to be an unhappy, lonely shell*

VSM's probably right.  Scary as THAT is.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2254 on: October 04, 2009, 03:35:36 AM »
Talking to strangers is fine. Talking to them and expecting to run down a sunflower field is wrong.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2255 on: October 04, 2009, 03:41:37 AM »
Exactly. You probably won't have a life-changing experience or meet your soul mate. You will have a more enjoyable day that is noticeably fuller with human contact.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2256 on: October 04, 2009, 03:49:11 AM »
Are your days really so short on human contact that you need to talk to strangers?
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2257 on: October 04, 2009, 03:53:18 AM »
No, but given that my workdays largely consist of talking to strangers, I may be biased.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2258 on: October 04, 2009, 03:58:09 AM »
I suspect that for your typical AMerican, that is true, actually.  It's deceptively easy to be surrounded by people and have no human interaction, y'know.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2259 on: October 04, 2009, 05:45:41 AM »
Found a 1200 square-foot townhouse with an attached garage for $800/month rent and no deposit; water, trash, recycling, and sewage are included.

Now I just need to wait until Dec. to move in...at least I get paid extra for going TDY, even if its for required training!

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2260 on: October 04, 2009, 05:50:09 AM »
I hate you for that, but then again literally everywhere in the midwest that isn't downtown Chicago is cheaper than here.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2261 on: October 04, 2009, 06:07:16 AM »
I suspect that for your typical AMerican, that is true, actually.  It's deceptively easy to be surrounded by people and have no human interaction, y'know.

It's called living in a city.

Well, you may have plenty of human interaction, but if you live in an apartment, there's a very good chance you will not know the names of the other people living even a few feet in any given direction.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2262 on: October 04, 2009, 06:30:01 AM »
I suspect that for your typical AMerican, that is true, actually.  It's deceptively easy to be surrounded by people and have no human interaction, y'know.

It's called living in a city.

Well, you may have plenty of human interaction, but if you live in an apartment, there's a very good chance you will not know the names of the other people living even a few feet in any given direction.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2263 on: October 04, 2009, 06:44:24 AM »
Well, that's really not even what I was going for.  Like... if you have roommates, how often do you acknowledge them more than a cursory greeting?  Or at most asking when they'll be back if they go out?  Do you speak to coworkers beyond the necessities of doing the task at hand?  How often?

That sort of thing.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2264 on: October 04, 2009, 07:52:29 AM »
Well during my brief stint at Messiah, about half the floor got along and hung out together, but that was mostly us being Freshmen and still a little intimidated by the whole thing, I imagine.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2265 on: October 04, 2009, 09:47:11 AM »
Hmm, while I generally don't talk with co-workers that much, this is more because I am freakishly introverted and not terribly good at small talk.  ie. I only really talk beyond kidding around with the handful of people who can talk at the same level about the generally eclectic topics I discuss.  Which is, like, four people in a work force of about fifty during the day.  Most people who work are generally able to easily engage in conversation with each other.

It's the same with people who know how to insert themselves well into random conversations while they're travelling.  It's a gift that I envy since it not only makes things more interesting for them, but for the people they're talking with as well.  Especially since the few people I've seen with that knack tend to be fairly knowledgeable (likely from talking with a wide variety of people).

Really, the only argument against is because of the freakish nature of people that seem to be getting attracted here.  Which...  yeah.  I can understand being very discouraging.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2266 on: October 04, 2009, 03:19:38 PM »
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All this talking to people in public chatter, meh.  Time spent talking to people at random is time not listening to music.  Time not spent listening to music is time wasted.  Get yourself a pair of good headphones and an MP3 player (and go spend a couple of hundred bucks on CDs if you need to start a collection).  For anyone who fails to even talk with the people you fucking live with, grow a pair of testicles.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2267 on: October 04, 2009, 04:07:44 PM »
It's the same with people who know how to insert themselves well into random conversations while they're travelling.  It's a gift that I envy since it not only makes things more interesting for them, but for the people they're talking with as well.  Especially since the few people I've seen with that knack tend to be fairly knowledgeable (likely from talking with a wide variety of people).

I'm convinced this is a learnable skill, and as God is my witness I will pick it up.

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2268 on: October 04, 2009, 05:44:41 PM »
It's the same with people who know how to insert themselves well into random conversations while they're travelling.  It's a gift that I envy since it not only makes things more interesting for them, but for the people they're talking with as well.  Especially since the few people I've seen with that knack tend to be fairly knowledgeable (likely from talking with a wide variety of people).

I'm convinced this is a learnable skill, and as God is my witness I will pick it up.

You're right.

All you have to do is not be self conscious and be willing to just randomly talk about anything pertinent to the conversation. It's definitely learnable. (I was soooooooo introverted for soooooooo long that my extroverted traits were all learned. Of course I was pretty extroverted when I was little, so I suppose results may vary a bit...)

I'm sorta borderline, I have actually thrown some comments in on bus ride conversations but in general I tend to spend a few seconds too long worrying that my normal personality might offend someone with heavily different views from mine with half my comments.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2269 on: October 04, 2009, 07:45:12 PM »
So...I've been thinking recently, for a sexual preference I supposedly identify with, it's kinda weird that I have zero lesbian contacts in my cell phone.  They don't have to be people that I would potentially have a relationship with--platonic friends would be fine, I'd just like to have an existing social network.

Stopped in at the LGBT community center, nothing going on (well, I could go to a talk for people with AIDS, but having never had sex I was skeptical as to the value there).  So, resigned, I figured "guess it's got to be a bar" (remember, I don't drink).  I had tried a bar the previous night, but it was mixed company and super cliquey, so I left.  Got a tipoff to try the Lexington, small bar, not much activity, but...OMG PUPPIES.  So...I played with other people's dogs for a good hour.  Then they left.  I slid myself into another conversation, where I was my typical quiet self (especially in an environment I'm not used to) but they seemed to like me, and the last one out hung back and gave me a tipoff about an event happening at 10pm that typically attracts about 200 dykes.  Now, 10 pm is my normal bedtime, but I still hadn't achieved my goal of at least having some kind of network, or someone's cell phone number.  So I went to that too; the very first song that the DJ played when testing her setup was La Roux, which makes me happy as La Roux is pretty much my favourite artist right now.  Being on my own was also awkward, as lesbians usually move in pairs at least.  Unfortunately, I didn't bring earplugs, so the dance floor was too loud for me, and I spent most of my time on the balcony.  This worked out in some ways as conversations more feasible, and I eventually got dragged into a conversation with a group of four who had been eating mushrooms all day (I couldn't tell, though they assure me they were seeing colours).  I also said hi briefly to the people who gave me the tipoff.

Anyhow, they all left before the show ended, and as the lights came on I struck up a conversation with an Ausie who...reminded me of Grefter in a lot of ways, except smaller and more butch (5'0" tall, super short hair with a lumberjack shirt).  She was not used to things ending at 2am (in Australia they go till 6am), and I had still not achieved my goal of "do I have any friends in my cell phone" so we went in search of the one single bar in San Francisco open later than 2am.  We found it, but there was a huge line; got in line anyway, figuring we might as well chat while we waited.  Then we found out the cover was $20, which neither of us wanted to pay, so we headed back to her hostile, which was right near the bus I needed to take.  We split about 3:20 am, I was in bed by...4:50 am.  I do have her email, though, which probably won't be that useful as she's leaving for Toronto very soon, but hey, it's contact information!

Pretty tired today, though >_>

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2270 on: October 04, 2009, 10:44:18 PM »
I struck up a conversation with an Ausie who...reminded me of Grefter in a lot of ways ... so we headed back to her hostile ...

I can see the resemblance. 

Also yeah stuff finishing at 2 PM is wussy, sure most people will fuck off because they have work, but your college students are lame if they aren't still going (Assuming you are talking probably from a city that didn't used to have a curfew like Brisbane.  Off hand guess she was from Sydney for stereotypes and for obviously having a long hard party night background).

Edit - I missed the congratulations on putting yourself on the meat market.  Sounds like you actually performed fairly admirably which is very good for someone who associates themselves with even having problems holding conversations with adults.  Doing your therapist proud I would imagine.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2271 on: October 04, 2009, 11:12:37 PM »
Learning to talk to people is a learnable skill.  Travelling abroad helps with that, since you need to be able to talk to strangers else be completely isolated.  Kind of like tossing a kid into a pool to make them learn to swim.

Anti-anxiety medication also helps a lot.  A lot a lot a lot a lot.  Drugs~

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2272 on: October 04, 2009, 11:18:38 PM »
Eh you saw me, I still don't really talk.  You can deal with travel and still not talk to people.  It just comes down to having the testicular fortitude to deal with shit when it comes up... so I guess that just means it can be an unused skill.

Travel requires no drugs of any kind to deal with other than a good soundtrack though.  If you are flying and you haven't listened to a Hendrix track while doing so then it is a damned shame.
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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2273 on: October 04, 2009, 11:42:21 PM »
I'm the kind of person who talks to people who sit next to him on the bus. I've yet to have an unpleasant conversation, or someone who did not enthusiastically respond back. I've also never had the discomfort of being called anything negative, while the people I talk to are usually varied. (children on their way to grade school, elderly people who are just retiring, this one girl who commutes from and to her school every day, this middle-aged guy who's always, always in a rush, even on saturday...)

Having black hair, a bit of a darker skin and stuff makes you 'a foreigner' here, and they don't take kindly to that. Well, some don't, and let there be such a group of youths in my hometown. Well, they're known for it, but I also had a very pleasant chat with a group of five of those kids, who all wanted me to be some kind of arbiter in which one of them was the least dumb.

I also do this with people on the streets when I'm alone and I don't think they'd mind the company, but much less so. Partially because I really don't like hanging around just to talk to someone I don't know when I could be doing stuff like visiting the supermarket, or checking out the bookstores.

Sounds like America's a lot more ~dangerous~ than here?

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Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!
« Reply #2274 on: October 05, 2009, 12:38:02 AM »
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that travel requires drugs.  Though that's fun given the right drugs.  And there is a difference between travelling to meet people you know and travelling alone to sightsee.

What I meant is that drugs help with learning to talk to people.  Not necessary but they help a lot.