Author Topic: DIE SUPER!!! - G'morning, 2009! (Read 249722 times)

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #2775 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:19:20 PM »

Well, it's official. We've found the WMDs in Snow's pants.

Should we send in troops?

Taishyr · « **Reply #2776 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:21:00 PM »

I sense Nitoriffic levels of balance in this conversation.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #2777 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:25:31 PM »

Saying this conversation is Nitori-level unbalanced is like saying some people died in WW2.

Dark Holy Elf · « **Reply #2778 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:47:59 PM »

So I have decided to install Windows on my Mac (giving it the option of booting up in either Windows or MacOS), because modern MacOS lacks good Playstation emulators. Oddly, MacOS 9 has an excellent one which I in fact used in the past, but since modern Macs run on Intel chips instead of Motorola it is actually possible to install Windows on them, but not MacOS 9 (and anyway, emulating in order to run emulation is, by most accounts, a Bad Idea).

Anyway, I succeeded in doing so, but then learned that the drivers Apple provides for Windows in order to get it to recognise things like my sound card and internet are not compatible with 64-bit Vista. I'm not sure why, but looking around, it seems like it'd be much easier to acquire an older version of Windows than to acquire correct drivers for 64-bit Vista.

So basically, I need a Windows install CD, either XP service pack 2 or 32-bit Vista. (I don't really care which, I don't plan to use it more than necessary.) As Microsoft doesn't appear to sell them any more (and would probably rip me off if they did...), would any of you awesome people have a CD you'd be willing to part with? Drop me a line on IRC.

And yes this is mainly for LFT, though it would also increase the chance of my playing Torment before 2018.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #2779 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:19:29 PM »

Things like that are why I'm postponing my laptop purchase until January even though I probably could fork off the money to buy one at first sight right now. Although I'm sure people will give you the time of the day on IRC (would be willing to do that myself, but my only XP disc is a XP HOME STARTER EDITION YESIU.JPG).

Shale · « **Reply #2780 on:** October 27, 2009, 11:05:45 PM »

Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on October 27, 2009, 06:47:59 PM

So basically, I need a Windows install CD, either XP service pack 2 or 32-bit Vista. (I don't really care which, I don't plan to use it more than necessary.) As Microsoft doesn't appear to sell them any more (and would probably rip me off if they did...), would any of you awesome people have a CD you'd be willing to part with? Drop me a line on IRC.

And yes this is mainly for LFT, though it would also increase the chance of my playing Torment before 2018.

I can provide you with a totally-not-pirated copy of 32-bit Vista.

superaielman · « **Reply #2781 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:19:51 AM »

*Emerges from hole* I'd have gotten done reading the gathering storm faster, but had to run errands today, plus got briefly distracted by L4D2's abortion of a demo release.

Today was a good day.

Luther Lansfeld · « **Reply #2782 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:21:25 AM »

Abortion of a demo release?

superaielman · « **Reply #2783 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:23:12 AM »

Valve is to timely releases as Shion is to virginity, dignity, and making sense in general.

They wait until the game's a half hour late before letting people know it was getting pushed back. I don't mind it getting pushed back, but hmmmmmmm how about you don't wait until after it was supposed to be released to say? Just a thought.

Shale · « **Reply #2784 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:34:59 AM »

So how 'bout that HL2: Episode 3, guys

Cotigo · « **Reply #2785 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:43:15 AM »

Quote from: Shale on October 28, 2009, 05:34:59 AM

So how 'bout that HL2: Episode 3, guys

Grefter · « **Reply #2786 on:** October 28, 2009, 08:56:22 AM »

Hey Borderlands got delayed until Friday as well, so quit your crying you whiny bitch. Get back to me when you have done the wait for Halflife 2. Also note that TF2 was much longer than Episode 3 has even be. TF2 was supposed to be out BEFORE Halflife 2 at one point.

superaielman · « **Reply #2787 on:** October 28, 2009, 01:51:31 PM »

Which doesn't affect my point at all. It is really sloppy to announce a delay after the game was to be released. The length of the delay doesn't bother me at all, it's how tardy Valve is in telling people about it.

Grefter · « **Reply #2788 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:05:18 PM »

It was a demo you big fucking baby.

superaielman · « **Reply #2789 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:13:41 PM »

Go the fuck away if you can't even manage a shred of civility. I'm not calling for Valve's head or raging, but I expect better than a delay announced after it was supposed to be out.

Grefter · « **Reply #2790 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:22:10 PM »

Dry up those tears and learn how this works. That is what online delivery is like, especially with Steam, you download the art assets for the game and don't get the actual entire game. The preload means that the art assets are finalised for what they need. If they have any problems with the online distribution of the service or the game itself it gets delayed. This is a demo and not a finished release, we aren't talking they failed to present a gold master disc at a specific day so that they had time to go out and announce the delay to stores and retailers that hey they fucked up and the release was delayed.

What you have here is a demo that they would have been working on to day 0 encountered an error somewhere along the way anywhere from a chronic failure to they just plain had no ability to get the content out to people.

Second of all, it was a demo. You have no promises there as a consumer. Finally, you are talking about a company that has met release dates 23:59 that day. This is how Valve and Steam functions and how it always functions.

Edit - To put this into perspective, this is the same way Demos have worked for games forever. The developer is always work until the last minute trying to get it out even if it doesn't make it out in time, they aren't TRYING to fuck you over. It just happens. Trust me, you got jilted a day because they had something to work out. It is way worse when you were getting your demos from the cover of monthly magazines.

Clear Tranquil · « **Reply #2791 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:17:08 PM »

So I had to attend an interview for a passport to confirm my identity and such. They were very nice peeps but I was quite nervous before hand at being called in to undergo such an experience. They ask all sorts of questions like what age do you think your counter signature is (for me it was a social worker >_>) I answered the majority of questions correctly but that one and did you put your email address on your application form floored me a bit. I couldn't remember <_<

I'll know the result in four to ten days.

superaielman · « **Reply #2792 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:24:50 PM »

Valve has a history of being late with releases. That's fine and I understand everything you've said. Delays happen. My problem isn't in the delay, it is how the delay happened and that is what pisses me off. It is not a major deal but the way it was delayed was definitely shitty.

You definitely had to pay to get access to the demo now.

CT: Sounds fun. You should be fine, but yeah.

metroid composite · « **Reply #2793 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:35:21 PM »

Quote from: superaielman on October 28, 2009, 03:24:50 PM

Valve has a history of being late with releases. That's fine and I understand everything you've said. Delays happen. My problem isn't in the delay, it is how the delay happened and that is what pisses me off. It is not a major deal but the way it was delayed was definitely shitty.

You definitely had to pay to get access to the demo now.

If it works the same way TF2 and L4D did, you pay for the final product that's being released 3 weeks from now. You don't pay any extra money that you wouldn't be paying to get the full game on launch day. Once you do that, they give you the "demo" early ("demo" seems to be Valve's name for "open Beta"). You're not getting ripped off because you're not spending any extra money that you wouldn't be spending on launch day.

And uhh, yeah, game development: unexpected fatal crashes happen.

I am surprised about one thing, though: if it's 3 weeks before, and they aren't ready to show it to the public, then they're in serious trouble with the 360 version which they must have already sent to Microsoft, and also can't patch.

Shale · « **Reply #2794 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:41:59 PM »

The 360 demo came out on time, and the PC version was delayed by one day. It's not like they pushed it off by a month.

Grefter · « **Reply #2795 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:50:34 PM »

I don't get what you wanted them to do. They couldn't release it when they had originally planned. They worked on it until that day and then let you know via the delivery system that you need to get the product the new expected release day. What the fuck did you want them to do? Get a sky writer and let you know or some shit?

To even touch the thing you needed to go there and check it. It isn't like you rocked up to a store to pick it up, you sat down at your computer and logged into Steam and you were going to do that anyway. Oh my god you will have to sit down at your computer tomorrow instead.

Also what met said.

Yakumo · « **Reply #2796 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:51:58 PM »

I think his problem is less the fact that it didn't come out on time and more the fact that Valve didn't tell anyone it wasn't coming out on time until half an hour past the time it should have come out.

Grefter · « **Reply #2797 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:53:17 PM »

Aaaaaaand?

Check this space. There will be a swear word here in half an hour.

Edit - I couldn't come up with a good swear word in time. Come back tomorrow. Try not to go through a whole box of razor blades.

Luther Lansfeld · « **Reply #2798 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:54:16 PM »

I think Grefter is just taking advantage of this opportunity to be mean.

Yakumo · « **Reply #2799 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:54:24 PM »

I dunno, just saying your arguments don't really have any bearing on his bitching. Not that he's right or anything.

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Author Topic: DIE SUPER!!! - G'morning, 2009! (Read 249722 times)

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