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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1450 on: March 24, 2009, 10:53:41 PM »
Backloggery says I should play LoD.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1451 on: March 24, 2009, 11:06:55 PM »
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1452 on: March 24, 2009, 11:07:51 PM »
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1453 on: March 24, 2009, 11:12:05 PM »
Please ignore the kappa.

Tangentially, I will only endorse Ciato playing LoD if she mocks it at least as thoroughly and passionately as I did.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1454 on: March 24, 2009, 11:19:51 PM »
N. LoD's not only bad, it's badly aged bad.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1455 on: March 24, 2009, 11:40:26 PM »
Y.   I say give it a shot, if nothing else.

Frankly, as far as I'm concerned, there's no harm in giving anything a shot.  What's the worst that happens? You blow an hour of your life deciding a game sucks and stop playing it?  Yes, I'm aware the irony of ME saying that, but then, I know that most people do NOT have my "Finish what you start, no matter how crappy" policy <_<
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1456 on: March 25, 2009, 01:20:06 AM »
What's the worst that happens? You blow an hour of your life deciding a game sucks and stop playing it?

No, the worst that can happen is if she ends up liking it and playing through the whole thing. Then we'll have no choice but to make fun of her, and she'll get stuck voting for Dart over Delita while she's spellbound by LoD, and Dart will win by one vote, and Delita will downgrade. Then rocks fall.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1457 on: March 25, 2009, 01:42:56 AM »
Yes, you should play it Ciato, but make certain you go read the reviews at Gamefaqs first and flick quickly through the message boards.  If you can find some of the old advertising campaigns (Box art!) as well before playing.  Absorb the entire LoD experience.  Play it.  Then rant. 
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1458 on: March 25, 2009, 02:13:47 AM »
LoD isn't nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be and Ciato should totally play it.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1459 on: March 25, 2009, 02:20:50 AM »
LoD's decent, though I do agree it hasn't aged too well - the battle system was good at the time but has been improved on significantly by everything from FFX to MMXCM, so it isn't nearly as appealing now.

I'd recommend you play it if you had 500% more free time than you currently do.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1460 on: March 25, 2009, 02:40:52 AM »
LoD isn't that bad but, like Elfboy said, it does nothing well that subsequent games haven't done better. Unless you really want to play an RPG that combines Power Rangers transformation sequences with timed hits, there are better ways to spend time.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1461 on: March 25, 2009, 04:26:48 AM »
VP: Covenant of the Plume- A end.  So game finished!

Since I ended up being on the A path up to C5 last time, my only new characters were from the third variation on C2, Natalia and Earnest.  Earnest joined Lockswell and Cheripha for the final party, since lacking a lancer left a definite hole in my party on the second playthrough.  Neither seem remarkable, though for all I know you can get some awesome daggers that bump Natalia up a notch?  Didn't have any sitting in my inventory though.

Strange game to judge in many ways.  It manages to have less plot than VP1 in a way; none of the endings are really as significant as A in VP, and while there's a continuous narrative they add up to less raw scenes than VP1 recruitment.
At the same time, each chapter having three variations gives it a shot in the arm.  Fundamentally, no matter which version of a chapter you play, the same core events are happening.  Your current path influences who survives those events, but fundamentally you don't change that much.  Still, the different perspectives available to you can be neat.
That said, shuffling down a path onces you're on it can be very jarring.  for example, jumping from A-C4 to B-C5 makes it seem like you just decided to join Kristoff's faction for no real reason, breaking the story flow from C4.  (if you stay on the A path, you it flows much more naturally.)

This seems intended to reflect that the whole sacrificing thing permanently alters Wyl's character and moral fiber, but he's kinda a dumbass in a lot of ways so this doesn't come through very clearly at times.  Well, that and the path jumping issue.  That said, running through the A path, which by nature will be continuous, his character development makes perfect sense.  For all that the foreknowledge of certain events and how they could have gone make it that much clearer.

Short version: "This game is meant to be replayed.  And you're probably meant to set your path in C2".

Okay, on to less confusing things.  I love the way this game plays.  It's... it feels like what VP2 wanted to be, blending the strategic elements of range and positioning with VP1's core comboing system.  it works really well, and the way the game treats AP strikes a decent balance between getting use out of tactics and not completely trivializing the game with item spam.  Although Union Plumes come close at times?  I would not want to consider the various final battles with them costing more.  Early battles, their monetary cost probably keeps them in check, so that's not too bad.
It's probably worth noting, though, that by the second playthrough any game difficulty was more due to my own screwups and choices than anything the game did.  I ended up never sacrificing Cheripha or Darius, so I lacked an effective lock-down skill for human enemies.  Considering that Avalanch of the Jotun my most-used skill, and all it does is freeze monsters, having a disable move for all enemies would have been smarter on my part.  And for the frue final I somehow forgot that I'd equipped Omni-checks for the final, assumed somehow I wouldn't need them with the support dead, and consequently spent half an hour scrapping a win in a fight I could probably have one-rounded otherwise.  Duuuurrrr.

Last set of Dl notes.

Natalia- Didn't use.  watching her on AI, she seems like a decent juggler, but not having any high-end weapons for her bottoms her usefulness very fast.  N/A.

Earnest- I have a bad habit of ditzing his hits in conjunction with other people's launch moves.  What the hell CK.  Still, solid, lancers feel like the most rounded overall class in the game, though probably ultimately owned by mages.  Likely Middle.

Suprise Final Battle Guest!!  L46 Ancel- Maybe I was just twitchy, but he does not play well with others.  However, his raw level advantage (46 vs 39 Wyl leads to him having nearly double the HP, to give you an idea of how levels work in this game) makes him a contender, and certainly he's a good way to finish an attack chain- save his attacks, toss him on the end of your other three SCs, profit.  Heavy, good one, leastwise if you take his appearance here seriously.

Boss A Garm, Hel's Hound.  aka Ailyth, Hel's Busty Maid- Yikes.  Did the boss with more overkill than any other boss (in a game where 80% of bosses overkill) need to add paralysis at an astonishing rate?  Or need 90% damage off spells?  Or HEAL?  75k HP seemed like enough really!  Especially since the overkill damage is MT.  Now, due to VPDS targetting this is kinda wonky and not MT on the boss's own turns.  Nope, just brutally overkills your entire party if you pull off an all-out attack.  Mind, physical so that helps.  Maybe, if you happened to get on C-C4 and sac Auguste.  And didn't take off your damn status protection before the final battle <.<   Godlike, even if you assume another playthrough it's tricky at best to pull off a one-rounding, and the damage is hard to argue with.


So anyway, if it wasn't obvious I really like this game.  I should probably do the SG sometime, but other games demand attetion.  Still, played three times, would play again, 9/10.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1462 on: March 25, 2009, 05:13:29 AM »
What about Seifer? I'm expecting incredible character depth there.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1463 on: March 25, 2009, 05:28:27 AM »
EP - This game is sorta weird, but, for better or worse, the unabashedly gothic chic atmosphere thingy is something that is pretty different from your average jRPG. And, if nothing else, Thage's attitude contrasting so sharply with her loligoth design provides entertainment, since she's so full of it.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1464 on: March 25, 2009, 05:32:50 AM »
What about Seifer? I'm expecting incredible character depth there.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1465 on: March 25, 2009, 06:03:11 AM »
Mass Effect-Went to Noveria, stopped the Matriarch. I decided to let the Rachnir go, for which I was bitched at, but hey giant bugs are cool and might end up being helpful later on. I'm approaching level 30 already, which I guess is because I've been sidequesting my ass off, not to mention examining/scanning/hacking everything I can get my greedy little Shepard mits on. I'm guessing your Paragon/Renegade level affect your ability to invest in Charm/Intimidate?

As for stat-building, I've maxed out Spectre Training, and upped Decryption and Electronics to the point where I can hack into pretty much anything, now focusing on Pistols to get Advanced Marksman. Put a couple points into Sniper Rifles, just enough to get Assassination. So far I've basically just been pistoling things into oblivion.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1466 on: March 25, 2009, 06:09:20 AM »
Renegade/Paragon limits your skills in Intimidate/Charm yeah except for the last 2 points which... you either get for free or need to beat the side mission on the Moon to get.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1467 on: March 25, 2009, 06:43:37 AM »
SH3- Finished, good ending gotten. I'm having trouble coming up with a word other than shallow to call the game. It's not entirely accurate, but possibly the best word to call it. Maybe lazy? The villain stuff shows that yes, the game can do character interaction! And it can do decent stuff like Chicago and Ricardo in Las Vegas or Johnny and Shania's scene in Brooklyn! But... from Las Vegas until the end of the game... it doesn't. That's a good 30 hour chunk that's just... empty. Maybe hollow is the better word to call it.

Ricardo was well done at first, but like most SH PCs after his introduction he's just kinda there. Johnny and Shania coulda had a lot of good moments, but instead they're just so much cardboard setpieces being moved from place to place and plot point to plot point. The rest of the PC cast is insanely flushable. It's not so much that they decided "Hey, lets focus on the zanyness!" it's that they didn't do ANYTHING with the cast. I expected more out of the ending than that, or at least I was hoping for it. Not a SH2 copypasta with Lady/Killer and the game just going "IT'S OVER!" The Good Ending... heck, give Shania an alternate costume at least, for crying out loud! Make Johnny older, do SOMETHING! Mrf.

I'd say it's a 7/10 game. Literally. 7.0. The game isn't quite Suikoden IV level (I use that as a rule of thumb when deciding the difference between a 6 and a 7), but... I'd say it's squarely at the bottom of the 7 pile. The gameplay was well-polished, and the game had it's moments, but... yeah. Can't really say much more than that. When SH1 PCs beat you in characterization, something is wrong.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1468 on: March 25, 2009, 10:51:43 AM »
The best part about LoD is this commercial:

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1469 on: March 25, 2009, 01:35:48 PM »
Wallace & Gromit: FotB
Hum, they changed up the controls. You can only move arbitrarily with the keyboard, and you need to hit shift to take inventory. At least these are listed in the tutorial... having to hit escape for the menu isn't, and while that causes no problems for me, Telltale adventures have generally seemed like they're trying to cater for casual players. In any case I don't care much for keyboard movement >_> The camera isn't as fluid as S&M and SB, so that may have had some bearing on the situation, but if so it wasn't done in the best manner possible as I had a fair amount of trouble getting people to walk in the direction I wanted, mostly while in town.

While playing as Gromit you get very little feedback as you'd expect, which I consider somewhat of a problem, especially since a large chunk of the appeal of the genre is feedback related. There aren't any dialogue trees either, which is similarly disappointing.

It was enjoyable in general despite this, but in no way is it a sterling example of a good adventure.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1470 on: March 25, 2009, 01:58:06 PM »
Play LoD if you like speed demons/nuuukes (overpowered magic)/for mocking the final boss. Some of the dragoons/spell animations are also quite pretty as well ^_^

Apart from that for what Snow said~

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1471 on: March 25, 2009, 02:26:21 PM »
The best part about LoD is this commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEs2OlW25Ao

Man, I forgot that commercial existed.  I definitely remember seeing it!
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1472 on: March 25, 2009, 03:40:14 PM »
EP - This game is sorta weird, but, for better or worse, the unabashedly gothic chic atmosphere thingy is something that is pretty different from your average jRPG. And, if nothing else, Thage's attitude contrasting so sharply with her loligoth design provides entertainment, since she's so full of it.

Well, if you have the patience to sit through all routes, you'll see where she really is a bitch.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1473 on: March 26, 2009, 04:51:20 AM »
ES- Chapter 2 done. Boss of the chapter was really damn hard, but not bringing in Salsa because I wanted Beat to take pictures would do that.

Was the first time you fight the C2 boss (Before the underground area) a fight you could lose?
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #1474 on: March 26, 2009, 06:39:38 AM »
Persona 4- Started! Entertaining so far. Only a few days in though.