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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5300 on: October 23, 2009, 05:38:44 AM »
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5301 on: October 23, 2009, 06:37:14 AM »
Those rules only apply to Oz after book 3. Before that, Death was clearly possible. I mean, Dorothy killed some witches after all. Stuff like 'no one dies in Oz' is totally a retcon.

But yeah, I try to not think about that particular part of the Oz mythos too hard. Since my favorite books were the first three... >.>;;

I'd still like to see how it's adapted as an RPG as that's an idea that had been floating around in my head since middle school... >.>;;

I mean, it's all right in the book! Scarecrow is weak vs. Fire, Tin Woodsman weak vs. Water (inflicts Rust necessarily!), and Dorothy and Lion are weak vs. Opium... I mean, Sleep magic.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5302 on: October 23, 2009, 07:46:51 AM »
Hey, it worked in WoW...

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5303 on: October 23, 2009, 07:00:54 PM »
Grandia 3: Raven is a worthless character by G3 standards Edition


Oh, Surmania. Surmania is such a large step down from Vejas and Melc, you have to wonder what they were thinking; it has to be deliberate. I guess the logic is that it has three bosses, so the focus is on them rather than the randoms. Wait, did I say three bosses? Funny, only two are worth remembering.

The dungeon is in two parts. The first is filled with Verse Realm enemies, so Verse Slayer is a pretty cool skill here (on paper at least) as is fire magic, and I can finally make one copy of Fire Mastery. The second has a wider array of enemies so this sort of specialisation doesn't work.

I start using Level 8 magic in this dungeon, but it's not too useful overall. It's a heavy hit to the MP pocketbook and slow, and not really much more damaging than the stuff I've been using all Disc 2. The exception is Ba-Boom and Crackle Fang against specific battles.

Skill setup for randoms: Magic/Tech; key skills are Sharp Eyes, element Masteries (Dahna gets fire), Magic Up, Guru's Way, and Perception. After some monkeying, Alfina ends up with Berserker/Verse Slayer, even though her physicals are worse than Dahna's, because Dahna going mage here is too valuable.

Aton Lambda - These guys are the main reason. Strengthened, Fire Mastery Sun Cards Ba-Boom knocks them out in one hit (Alfina can't do this), and they come in large enough swarms to make this worth it. They're the most dangerous enemy in the dungeon, probably, as Javelin Shot is a shockingly damaging (3HKO) cancel tech for an enemy that frequently shows up in groups of 5 or 6. Otherwise, they cast utility magic like Def-Loss (no big) and Snooze (Dahna equips a sleep blocker).

Zeptol Phi - Holy crap that's a lot of MDef, even twinked Burn tinks off them! Stronger spells can manage okay. Alfina's Berserker physicals rape them though, as their Def is awful. Or... they do once I get rid of that damn Thunder Staff, as apparently these guys half Wind. Fortunately they're really not very dangerous. All they can do besides attack is a cancel tech, Wheelspin, that is about half as damaging as Javelin Shot.

Gigas Pi - They like to cancel, and are tough against physicals while being bad against magic. They never show up in large numbers and their damage is nothing special. Whatever.

The second half of the dungeon, after the first boss, does a complete clean slate and only features the following enemies:

Mimic - Actually there was one of these in Melc too, I forgot about it (it had 1000 less HP and no Kamikaze, though). Mimics have great speed and good defences (halving all magic, in particular) but their turns are questionable. They have Erebos but both my PCs block Death (Golden Ring and Angel Dress), Howlslash (lulz), and Howlnado (can confuse, at least). They also have Kamikaze. This does OHKO damage (defending makes it survivable), but has a charge time of doom and only hits a relatively small circle around the Mimic. Can you guess the stretegy here? Yes, it's to bait them into using Kamikaze and move away from him. Yes, he still drops Exp/money/items. Pathetic.

King Lycanthrope - They use Boomor and Hellburner, but it's weaker than the stuff used by Liches and Melc Crystals, so whatever. They act as support for more competent enemies and aren't much by themselves.

Duamutef - They have Diamond Dust and Crackle Fang, though it's a bit weaker than the stuff used by the Hyudra. They're modestly durable, but it tends not to save them much in the long term. Only dangerous when paired with...

King's Drake - Where Aton Lambda was the saving grace of the first half, these guys are the saving grace of the second. They're still not amazing, but they boast a high 3-digit damage fan cancel attack which they love to use and really disrupts my offence, especially when their friends are slowing me down with stray Diamond Dusts and physicals. It's extremely damaging, except that fire halving takes it down to a mere 400 or so. Oddly that's still enough to be dangerous, since that's all they do besides occasional physicals. I do come close to losing one fight against them.

But yeah, easiest Disc dungeon aside from Nautica, at least in terms of randoms. So, bosses...

First of all, boss skill setup is more like that for Melc Crystals. Body/Tech, features Perception, Passive Defence, Life Up, Warrior's Way, and a bunch of filler. Also, both PCs halve all elements for this battle (Ebony Armour and Divine Charm) and Alfina blocks all status while Dahna blocks Death (Golden Ring and Angel Dress).


Violetta (1 reset):

I imagine most people here have some sort of sense of her due to the DL. Anyway, she has 6400 HP, but she takes less than 400 damage from most anything I throw at her (unless it's comboed or I catch her in an attack stance). Her scythe can also be killed, but since it has comparable durability to her (no damage reduction, but over 5x the HP) there's little point. Violetta has over double my speed, the scythe a little below. This means about four enemy turns a round, of course, assuming they don't use their quick hit physicals (yeah, you knew any lategame boss would have these).

Of the two, the scythe is notably less dangerous. It has one really scary move, and that's Dance of Death, which very solidly 2HKOs. Otherwise, it has Erebos, which as mentioned, my current setup blocks, and Howlslash, which is lol (about 500 damage, but I halve Wind). When Violetta or, I assume, the scythe itself drops below half HP, it gains Howlnado, which does 1000/2 damage and confuses sometimes. I get lucky and it never does.

Violetta herself has three dangerous moves: Chant of Despair, which does high 3-digit MT damage and inflicts Defence Down, Freeshooter, which does about 1000 damage to a fan and cancels, and Burnblaze, which does solidly 2HKOing fire magic damage to a fan (this is nasty even when halved). Above half HP that Burnblaze is instead Hellburner, but it's an unusually damaging Hellburner, about 1200/2. Still, the battle is considerably easier when that's all she has for fire magic. Oh, and she has Burn Wall, which she likes to use far too often. It spoils melee physicals, which means Alfina can't cancel her with Critical; I wouldn't want to physical her anyway since she has 50% evasion. Perhaps more significant is that it adds damage to Dance of Death, since using that move brings her into melee range and guarantees a Burn Wall hit. Annoying since Dance already hurts.

There's not too much to say about how the fight plays out. Violetta is tough, but not as tough as Melc Crystals overall; elemental resistance keeps the worst of her damage under control, and while her good moves are very good, she wastes time with the not so good (Howlslash in particular, but Burn Wall also applies). If she gets on a good run it's easy to get in trouble; on my winning run, I was definitely in situations of "one PC dead, the other at about 100 HP" pretty often. I make a point of trying to cancel Dance of Death and Chant of Despair in particular, but I'll also get Burnblaze and Freeshooter in some situations. I end up using Hellburner for most of my offence; the stronger spells only barely do more damage (like, 25% at most) and since I'm using Body/Tech I don't have mastery skills and the upper end spells are just too expensive for a long boss fight. Oh yeah, and Diggin' is a good counter to the status of Chant of Despair, so I use that.


La-Ilim:

There are exactly two bosses in Disc 2 who have failed to get a reset out of me. Both of them are this guy.

He's back, and he's a bit different. In some ways he's worse than before; in the entire battle, there are only two scary attacks, and that's a battle against three enemies with a lot of different moves to choose from. Not a good sign!

La-Ilim has the same big thing going for him as the first fight, and that's high defences, so he's a durable chap. This time he actually sticks around and makes you deplete all his HP, too! He fights with a Crystal Skull that is basically invincible and an Undead Dragon who is anything but (9000 HP) but it's not worth the trouble to kill him since he just gets revived. The Dragon is as fast as Violetta, but La-Ilim himself is much slower (though still faster than the PCs) and the Crystal Skull is a slug, about 75% PC speed. So overall the number of turns the enemies get is similar to the last battle, and as mentioned, they aren't used as well. Here's what they do:

La-Ilim himself uses Crackle, which is 4HKO damage before being halved, as well as Comet Cannon, a 4HKO GT physical (oh no), Energy Drain, which does laughable (6HKO!) GT damage but heals him for half that amount (oh no), and POIZN, which is okay against Dahna but laughable against Alfina. Nothing he does is especially scary; I sometimes cancel him for the lulz when he uses the sluggish Comet Cannon, but not usually. Oh, and he has a horrible "get up" animation time. From what I could tell, if he didn't have any friends, and I could bait him into casting Comet Cannon (impossible, sadly, it requires the dragon), I could keep him from ever getting an action by locking him with two castings of HELLBURNER a round. Awesome!

The skull mainly uses useless utility magic: STRAM, which lowers physical attack (note my method of offence), Def-Loss, which lowers Def (guess it helps the Dragon a bit; Diggin' counters this), and Dark Blitz, which literally never even hits, but based on what other enemies do it'd be a weak cancel physical. He has one saving grace, and that's Dark Mist, which does a moderate amount of GT magic damage (borderline 3HKO!) and racks up a lot of hits. Easily the second most dangerous attack I face in this battle, and one I'll cancel when I see coming.

The Undead Dragon was the powerhouse in the first battle, and largely remains so. Unfortunately for him, one of his big moves, Chaos Flare, is now much less dangerous because it's fire elemental and I half that. It also hasn't scaled up very well, it's only barely better than Comet Cannon before halving. I barely even am concerned when I see it. Hell Fang is the only thing this battle has going for it, really; it's only a bit weaker than Dance of Death, and it's used by the fastest enemy. Obviously, I keep my eye out for him using it at all costs, because if I somehow were to lose this fight, it'd be because of this.

The Dragon's regular physicals remain somewhat damaging and can cancel, but aren't quick hits. Neither are La-Ilim's, I don't think, and the damage on his are just horrible.

I should note, at this point, that the stat topic lists a few attacks I never saw: Cold, Craze, Fiora, Diamond Dust, and Crackle Fang. Cold would have been very dangerous, that counterable by Runner, at least. I find it odd I never saw the rest, since it was not a short fight and I saw every other attack many times, and wonder if they have a trigger I didn't meet, like getting the skull below half HP or killing it outright.

Anyway, as for the fight itself... the big thing to note is I took off nearly a third of La-Ilim's HP before I even had to heal. That's pathetic, given that my damage was something on the order of 25HKO, and highlights how worthless this boss is when it's not using Dark Mist and Hell Fang. Later in the fight they wised up and started using those more, and things got more interesting; Dark Mist chained into Hell Fang is enough to kill outright due to the combo bonus. I did in fact have to do my share of reviving. But overall, though a slow fight, and not entirely trivial, it's... about as easy as I could expect a boss to be on this challenge. Poor La-Ilim. No plot, no battle competence. Bit of a waste of a neat battle design with the dragon and all.


Oh, and somewhere in the dungeon, horrible plot happened, where Raven randomly possesses himself with Xorn's power so he can fight Emelious, loses anyway and dies, and Dahna says "RAVEN AND I ARE FINALLY ONE". What. He just died, girlfriend. God, Raven is impressively useless.

Next time, A HARDER BOSS THAN LA-ILIM! In which Emelious tries to make up for his small penis by impaling two women with his mighty sword, and ultimately gets owned (I hope).

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5304 on: October 23, 2009, 09:18:43 PM »
*wants G3 for moar dancer hype yes*

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New game+ (Expert) done apart from frue dungeon/boss/ending because if I don't quit P4 it's going to start coming out of my ears. Ultimate gear for Souji/Chie/Naoto/Teddie obtained and Hassou Tobi, Power Charge + God Hand substantially abused.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5305 on: October 23, 2009, 09:23:56 PM »
Uh G3 has no dancers and I think Violetta is gone for goods. <_<

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5306 on: October 23, 2009, 09:39:33 PM »
BOW DOWN TO YOUR NEW GOD
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5307 on: October 23, 2009, 09:43:16 PM »
I'm guessing Elfboy's harem got sexed up, then.
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« Reply #5308 on: October 23, 2009, 09:44:54 PM »
It did.

MWAHAHA! IT'S COMING!! MWAHAHA! THE WORLD OF MY DREAAAMS! MWAHAHA! Is his victory quote. His quotes are AWESOME.
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« Reply #5309 on: October 23, 2009, 09:57:51 PM »
It did.

MWAHAHA! IT'S COMING!! MWAHAHA! THE WORLD OF MY DREAAAMS! MWAHAHA! Is his victory quote. His quotes are AWESOME.

I have to infer that you have more fun watching Elfboy suffer and G3 writing corn it up than you ever would just playing G3 normally.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5310 on: October 23, 2009, 10:00:35 PM »
LFT - Cleared Execution Site with relatively little hassle.  Had one reset because Gafgarini decided it would be fun to stop my Wizard with Geomancy hax and things just went south from there.

Wild ARMs of Oz - *watches as a Hungry Wolf that does 3 damage to Dorothy normally does 49 on a critical hit, rages*  Also this game likely makes L. Frank Baum spin in his grave and I don't care.

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« Reply #5311 on: October 23, 2009, 10:02:47 PM »
Also this game likely makes L. Frank Baum spin in his grave and I don't care.

Totally Irotome-approved.
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[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> UVIET?!??!?!
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« Reply #5312 on: October 23, 2009, 10:08:24 PM »
It did.

MWAHAHA! IT'S COMING!! MWAHAHA! THE WORLD OF MY DREAAAMS! MWAHAHA! Is his victory quote. His quotes are AWESOME.

I have to infer that you have more fun watching Elfboy suffer and G3 writing corn it up than you ever would just playing G3 normally.

Yes, yes I am. The MST value is just too great. To be fair, G3 gameplay is good too, but watching someone with more G3 skills than me is enjoyable.
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« Reply #5313 on: October 23, 2009, 10:11:14 PM »
Makes complete sense. I'm having a blast even reading those summaries, and seeing the whole trainwreck live must be interesting for gameplay purposes. The plot, of course, is very drinking game-friendly.

Tangentially, I'd probably be responsible for about 1.5x more resets than Elfboy has had so far if I was there due to alcoholic coma madness. Granted, I'm not sure there's enough Jack Daniels in the world to withstand G3 plot drinking games. <_<
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« Reply #5314 on: October 23, 2009, 10:14:51 PM »
EMELIOUS HAS HASTE????!!!?!? *SOB*
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« Reply #5315 on: October 23, 2009, 10:16:13 PM »
EMELIOUS HAS HASTE????!!!?!? *SOB*

I have to assume that's NEB on Ciato's account. >_>
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« Reply #5316 on: October 23, 2009, 10:17:06 PM »
Naaaw. I am just watching. Emelious is eeeeeeeeeeevil.  Just had to Unama's Orb him.
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« Reply #5317 on: October 23, 2009, 10:18:15 PM »
Hell of a trump card.

Did he win with it or is it still going on?

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« Reply #5318 on: October 23, 2009, 10:19:32 PM »
Most of it was reviving and healing, so no. He still has about 20k HP or so.

Keep using dodgable stuff and not Spirit Wail, you douche~
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« Reply #5319 on: October 23, 2009, 10:20:38 PM »
This soooooo deserves streaming.
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[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> UVIET?!??!?!
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[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> OMG!!!!
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« Reply #5320 on: October 23, 2009, 10:24:17 PM »
And dead. He did all his good moves in a row like a douchebag.

MWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA hoohohohohooooo
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« Reply #5321 on: October 23, 2009, 10:30:33 PM »
MWAHAHA! IT'S COMING!! MWAHAHA! THE WORLD OF MY DREAAAMS! MWAHAHA! Is his victory quote. His quotes are AWESOME.

His actual victory quote has about four times the amount of evil laughter.

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« Reply #5322 on: October 23, 2009, 10:31:52 PM »
I expect that laughter to be etched irrecoverably into your brain at least two days before you beat the fight. >_>
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[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> UVIET?!??!?!
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« Reply #5323 on: October 23, 2009, 10:58:31 PM »
Alright...  finished Ulrika path.

And yeah, a lot more plot in terms of what's going on in Raze's since, as before, it turns out his entire plot seems to be a sidestory.  Which is kind of funny since in a lot of ways he's treated like the main character, right down to Ulrika getting called an extraneous main to her face, and getting to be the main sprite in the joint scenario.  Though, that last bit could just be because I did his path first.  Also noted that the party basically had to tell Ulrika to sit down and shut up so they could actually hear why people were being sent after them...

Anyways, later Chloe CQs weren't quite able to stand up to the earlier ones, which means they slipped below Puniyo.  Though, this didn't stop me from picking her ending.  I do like what they did with Chloe though.  I mean, she's the one person who is both somewhat friendly and intelligent in the party.  She also gets off on human suffering, so the only reason people ever listen to her is because there is no viable competition.  But it works.

Enna...  his fourth CQ isn't so hot, until you hit the trainwreck that is the end of it.  I...  Words fail me, and it probably would have been half as awesome if I hadn't seen Et 4 previously.  Enna 5...  I don't want to spoil it, I really don't.  Just, Flay + Enna = Win.  Probably still only my second favourite CQ chain, but damn if that kid didn't give Lily a good fight in those last two CQs.  Still not sure what I think of Enna as a character, since his CQs are more about how the universe hates him in entertaining ways (and Chloe's CQs are also about how the universe hates Enna and Ulrika in entertaining ways...  and Et's are also generally about how the universe hates Enna...  Oh screw it, the entire point of MK2 is that Flay is awesome and the universe hates Enna in entertaining ways) but I suspect that if he shows up in future MKs, he'll be a lot more interesting than he is now since he really does just come across as a kid whose been tormented his entire life by forces he's been powerless to stop (mostly his sister, but his workshop mates also work here) and if he can ever get to a point where he doesn't have to lash out at everything in a futile effort to defend himself, he could be fairly interesting.  And there's definately hints that he might well play a role in future MK games, so I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with him if he does show up again.

Pepperoni...  nothing really to mention since last time.  Well, no.  Unlike Snow, I never found him falling off.  It helps that his strength is just that obscene, and that the final dungeon is chock full of Earth weak enemies.  I mean, really, the ability to do 2.2k damage without critting is a little over the top.  Character wise?  Nothing new since last time.  He's just kinda there and annoying.

Nothing changed with Goto either.  Oh, right, I did see Goto 4.  However the only really offensive thing there was the general implication of "How dare a woman want to force a man to be monogamous," which the first bit laid on very thick.  The rest was kinda tame for Goto, and was more of a lesson in Chloe gets off on human suffering.  So, yeah, still hate Goto (implied he's in his 40's, spends the denoument hitting on a pair of sixteen year olds), but don't especially hate Goto 4.  Just....  way too tame and way too late, and is more damning of Japanese society than Goto himself (not to mention, still doesn't top his opening scene).

Final boss, was a tough, and frustrating fight.  It was definately an interesting gimmick, but with the special skills laid out as they were, it definately felt more designed for Raze's party than Ulrika's.  Just the fact that the boss could spam three to four reasonably durable critters with solid MT 2HKO damage and had a personal borderline MT OHKO attack (though one with plenty of warning) meant that a lot of time got spent on the defensive.  And with the utter lack of MT and Timed Cards Ulrika's party has, yeah...  Ulrika and Enna were invaluable just for their useful GT attacks, not to mention the Healing Echo Ulrika had, and the Timed Cards Enna had.  Chloe had Light Fall on, which is good because that was vital in keeping the bits under control, as well as the fact that she had the only MT Defensive Support, which was necessary to survive some spammage.  Pepperoni was slightly less useful, mostly serving as a single target smasher and deliverer of knockback.  And Goto was Item Boy, and Megaheal spammer, because otherwise he was just Pepperoni with less ST damage, and no Line damage, and OPB decent MT damage.  So, yeah...

Also saw the start of the group scenario.  Let's just say it starts with Flay realizing there's a main plot going on, and that he's sure as heck not gonna let that happen without sticking his nose in somewhere.  It is at least thrice as awesome as that description could possibly make it sound.

When I start it, will likely take some time to grab ingredients from Raze's unique dungeons and do a proper synthing run before doing the game play.  Looking at a party of Raze, Ulrika, Enna, Lily, Chloe, and Puniyo.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #5324 on: October 23, 2009, 11:23:31 PM »
Uh G3 has no dancers and I think Violetta is gone for goods. <_<

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