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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6025 on: December 01, 2009, 08:14:37 PM »
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6026 on: December 01, 2009, 09:03:53 PM »
Tales of Bread - This game's villains are so pathetic. It's like Namco was looking at Klonoa character design's reject bin and they decided they'd save time and resources by recycling a bunch of clowns for this.

Oh, right, there's a game. Just got Deus Ex Machina'd into Harriet's lap and now began babysitting.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6027 on: December 02, 2009, 01:16:36 AM »
Tales of Bread - This game's so pathetic.

That looks better.

Fuck ToL. It was like Suikoden 4's "hey let's take out anything that resembles complexity or character customization."

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6028 on: December 02, 2009, 01:24:57 AM »
ToL gameplay was dead boring, yeah.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6029 on: December 02, 2009, 01:31:56 AM »
ToL gameplay was dead boring, yeah.

Even Tales fans agree.

A few of the characters were kind of funny at least...

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6030 on: December 02, 2009, 02:09:28 AM »
ToL gameplay was dead boring, yeah.

As opposed to all the Tales games with exciting, thought-provoking gameplay.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6031 on: December 02, 2009, 02:30:26 AM »
I find the tales games to have generally fun gameplay, yeah. It may not work for you if furiously jacking it to algorithms is your thing, but it's better than sitting there watching attack animations.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6032 on: December 02, 2009, 02:33:14 AM »
ToL gameplay was dead boring, yeah.

As opposed to all the Tales games with exciting, thought-provoking gameplay.

Thought-provoking I'll give you, but there are far more boring battle systems out there than combo-based A/RPG. For instance, XS1.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6033 on: December 02, 2009, 02:34:55 AM »
KotOR: Because I was on Steam yesterday for Monkey Island and noticed this was all of ten bucks, so hey. Running a scoundrel, grabbed snipe feats and paired them with the sith sniper rifle for nutty critrate hijinx. Of course, now I'm on Dantooine and have a lightsaber, making me wish I'd invested more in melee feats, but eh.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6034 on: December 02, 2009, 02:35:35 AM »
ToL did have good music though!

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6035 on: December 02, 2009, 02:35:42 AM »
Press X 1000 times. Eventually realize you should have just played on auto-battle.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6036 on: December 02, 2009, 02:36:46 AM »
KotOR: Because I was on Steam yesterday for Monkey Island and noticed this was all of ten bucks, so hey. Running a scoundrel, grabbed snipe feats and paired them with the sith sniper rifle for nutty critrate hijinx. Of course, now I'm on Dantooine and have a lightsaber, making me wish I'd invested more in melee feats, but eh.

Is it rubbing it in to mention that it was one of the $2.50 deals a few days ago?
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6037 on: December 02, 2009, 02:38:30 AM »
Sure, if you want to be a jerk.

Also, it's a good thing there's no mass media in the SW universe, or the first mook on the street would've recognized the MC as Revan.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6038 on: December 02, 2009, 02:39:16 AM »
I should prolly grab KotOR and KotOR2 for the PC sometime, if they're on Steam. I really want to play them, and have them for Xbox...but can't play them on the 360 since I can't get the damned thing online.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6039 on: December 02, 2009, 02:40:27 AM »
I didn't see KotOR2 on there, sadly.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6040 on: December 02, 2009, 02:43:20 AM »
Ah. Pity.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6041 on: December 02, 2009, 02:48:46 AM »
ToL - Bread racism or something. The villain cast continues to be laughable.

Also, for the complaints about ToL removing complexity and customization, I'm shocked that there was -any-, at least looking at the Tales games I played (TotA's excuse for customization was, besides a cheap setup for a Guy semi-infinite, meaningless. ToP had none, ToD Swordians were worthless for customization depth, ToE had none either). >_>
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6042 on: December 02, 2009, 03:02:15 AM »
El Cid- oh, there's mass media.  Just, he was into cloaks and face masks BEFORE he was evil, and I doubt an ends-justifies-means warrior turned Sith Overlord grants many candid interviews anyway >.>

Personally I don't find that ToL suffers compared to other Tales games in customization; it tends to be very linear stuff in which you either get the good stuff or miss it, nothing worth bitching about.
The problem with the game was they kinda fucked up enemy design and made blocking common to the point of frustration; enemies tend to laugh off your attacks and wail on you quite a bit.  Well, that and all the mages were almost but not quite interchangable and sucked for everything but healing (making Norma the best one by default), but that's because most Tales games don't have half the cast be a mage.  The sucking thing of course is not exactly unique to ToL (here's looking at you, Genis)

All that said ToL isn't so bad as the Tales fandom makes it out.  Grefter has said it before and said it better, but it does a great job of making the game and its story seem like it's actually just a chapter in the larger world, even if an important chapter to be sure.  I also think the second half of the game is pretty neat for fluffy character stuff, but a lot of people don't get that far so I dunno how much of a factor that is.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6043 on: December 02, 2009, 04:19:16 AM »
ToL - Bread racism or something. The villain cast continues to be laughable.

Also, for the complaints about ToL removing complexity and customization, I'm shocked that there was -any-, at least looking at the Tales games I played (TotA's excuse for customization was, besides a cheap setup for a Guy semi-infinite, meaningless. ToP had none, ToD Swordians were worthless for customization depth, ToE had none either). >_>

TotA had FOF effects and streamlined the Overlimit/Mystic Arte process. Also, introduced the passive skill system with things like Free Run and such. The Capacity Cores were also kind of interesting even if they were designed too weakly to make much of an impact on gameplay.

ToL suffers from coming right after ToS, which has its Team Attack meter that is far more customizable than ToL's, the EX-Gem system which had some unique effects for certain characters to keep it from being totally generic, Titles/Costumes that actually had an effect on gameplay, Hi-Ougis that were semi-difficult to unlock so players had something interesting to work for, and the weird/poorly-documented Overlimit system that was refined in TotA.


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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6044 on: December 02, 2009, 04:23:16 AM »
100% disagreement there, ToS's team attack thing was just... there.  I don't even remember it being worth your while.  Climax Mode is pretty sweet meanwhile.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6045 on: December 02, 2009, 04:36:32 AM »
Climax Mode sounds naughtier anyway.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6046 on: December 02, 2009, 06:10:12 AM »
The joke to that is because there is SEED Destiny.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6047 on: December 02, 2009, 06:56:04 AM »
I should prolly grab KotOR and KotOR2 for the PC sometime, if they're on Steam. I really want to play them, and have them for Xbox...but can't play them on the 360 since I can't get the damned thing online.

Get KotOR2 on PC. There's a content restoration mod out there that gives it (holy fuck) actual endings.

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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6048 on: December 02, 2009, 12:38:39 PM »
Climax Mode sounds naughtier anyway.

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I swear to god that they named the character that only so Senel could go all Street Car.  Granted, if he DIDN'T go all Street Car Named Desire with a character like that, and a personality that could be easily provoked into that (Senel isn't the most mild tempered of characters...)

Also, just to make sure I'm not going amnesiac, CLimax Mode was where time stopped, and you wailed on the enemy for a good while until either the gauge ran out or you used Team Attack (thereby, you use it RIGHT AT THE END)

I don't even remember ToS having a team attack mode.  I do remember ToS2's Unison Attacks...but then, you used those a lot cause you had no MAs for most of the game, Unison Attacks build up FAST, and it was free damage.
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Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.
« Reply #6049 on: December 02, 2009, 04:57:24 PM »
L4D2- Cleared every map but hard rain, should have a clear if not for some terrible luck. Oh well. 

The game is still  harder than L4D1, and nerfed melee is a huge part of that. It's beyond frustrating to get pincered by a couple of zombies and being unable to do anything about it because of melee cooldown.  Having to switch to a melee weapon is awkward, and the limited hitbox means you're still going to take damage. This makes advanced annoying at points, and I don't even want to imagine expert.  I'm fine with most of the game changes, but I really, really dislike how easy it is to be pinned by one random zombie when you can't spam melee attacks.

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