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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #100 on: January 30, 2009, 12:16:13 PM »
I didn't really want to do it... but "Existential questions about identity. Deep."  Is just http://www.fenslerfilm.com/moviesF/PSAsmall/FenslerFilm_PSA15_small.mpg
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #101 on: January 30, 2009, 04:17:32 PM »
EDIT 3:  OK, here's all of them and not cut up like so much annoying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ-ckU_D1fg&feature=related
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #102 on: January 30, 2009, 04:24:27 PM »
Okay, so my students (the Japanese equivalents of 10th graders) just completed an activity in which they were given a blanked-out comic strip and were told to make their own jokes... in English.

For the Net-savvy, I'm sure you know something like this has already appeared on Penny Arcade (with older children, and as a result, funnier comics). But I was hoping that some of you could take the time to read these anyway, as they are pretty cute and occasionally amusing.

Also, I want my students to get some feedback from people who speak this language so that they can feel like they aren't just learning English to take tests, but so that they can actually communicate with it! So please enjoy and comment on these comics! (I've been in Japan too long...)

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=449484959&albumId=287248&authKey=TXL64FZFdeqM8E5fuobqNrdizAv%2fSc8ZTiCG22H%2bEbi%2brefg3CorRbRP42p2D1Ad0Fi4A7P8bKByTPJStBI043%2fc74MQPrDJt19fxPCe%2br0%3d

My students will be able to see the comments, and even if they don't understand them, they'll be happy to see their comics got any comments at all.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #103 on: January 30, 2009, 07:23:55 PM »
My students will be able to see the comments, and even if they don't understand them, they'll be happy to see their comics got any comments at all.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2009, 07:36:02 PM »
Same as Ultradude.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2009, 07:47:02 PM »
Same as Ultradude and super.

Also, I agree with Captain K.

Also, I am in a murderous rage because a non-native speaker learning English misused your/you're. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2009, 09:03:53 PM »
I liked the "Actually, I had a date last night" one.

Best spelling mistake: "ealry"

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2009, 09:36:13 PM »
Also, I am in a murderous rage because a non-native speaker learning English misused your/you're. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?

Easier than with a native English speaker?  The words sound the same.  They would just assume that they're spelled the same if they forgot.  Or might.  I forgive it more in non-native English speakers than with Anglophones.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2009, 09:50:53 PM »
Also, I am in a murderous rage because a non-native speaker learning English misused your/you're. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?

Easier than with a native English speaker?  The words sound the same.  They would just assume that they're spelled the same if they forgot.  Or might.  I forgive it more in non-native English speakers than with Anglophones.

I know that they're homophones. That's why English speakers screw them up so much. However, they mean completely separate things, so if you're being taught either of the words, chances are that you won't be learning the other: one is a possessive pronoun, and one is a subject + verb contraction.

I find it ironic that people often try to diffuse the problem by teaching a lesson on homophones, thus permanently sealing the "oh yeah, these are easily mistaken" idea in memory and ensuring eternal confusion over which form to use.

I hate that so much.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2009, 10:22:58 PM »
I always thought the reason that your/you're is so often mistaken is not because of the homophone issue, but because people always associate the apostrophe with the possessive and default to that. This I can understand a non-native speaker doing. The homophone issue is sort of a red herring...

Unless they're using yore, which is just plain silly.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #110 on: January 30, 2009, 10:35:08 PM »
Same as Ultradude and super.

Also, I agree with Captain K.

Also, I am in a murderous rage because a non-native speaker learning English misused your/you're. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?

See, and here I thought that the HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? referred to the murderous rage.  Seeing as this is a generally intelligent person getting upset that young people learning English from a mish mash of random sources managed to screw up something that even people competant in the language need to worry about messing up.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2009, 10:53:46 PM »
See, and here I thought that the HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? referred to the murderous rage.  Seeing as this is a generally intelligent person getting upset that young people learning English from a mish mash of random sources managed to screw up something that even people competant in the language need to worry about messing up.

No need for the snark. You have a perfectly valid point.

It just happens to be one of my pet peeves.

I always thought the reason that your/you're is so often mistaken is not because of the homophone issue, but because people always associate the apostrophe with the possessive and default to that. This I can understand a non-native speaker doing. The homophone issue is sort of a red herring...

Unless they're using yore, which is just plain silly.

People may associate the apostrophe with the possessive, but people also associate the apostrophe with "oh crap, S train a comin'!" Hence "Banana's $0.89/lb" in the grocery store.

Either way, "murderous rage" wasn't quite the right phrase. I do get annoyed when simple things like where to put the apostrophe and why it's used get mangled. Why I should do that when I study English as it progressed from Old English -> Middle English -> Modern English is beyond me. Perhaps I just miss the inflected part of our language.

It also reflects a lack of awareness. That just makes me sad. When Japanese school children do it, it's one thing -- yes it bothers me, yes it confuses me. When a native speaker does it? Just plain sad.

Not that I don't get frustrated enough to comment on it. I did hunt down the produce guy and explain why his sign was wrong. Then again, I think we all have our little buttons on these sorts of things. Hence Idiot of the Day.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #112 on: January 30, 2009, 11:36:44 PM »
I need to point out that japanese is a phonetic language. And thus such mistakes are easier to make for someone who was raised in that language first. >_>;

'course, Japanese is a language that confuses its own country, so maybe not. Eh.


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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #113 on: January 31, 2009, 04:07:42 AM »
Gah, I didn't know that people have to register as friends before they could leave comments...

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I know that they're homophones. That's why English speakers screw them up so much. However, they mean completely separate things, so if you're being taught either of the words, chances are that you won't be learning the other: one is a possessive pronoun, and one is a subject + verb contraction.

I find it ironic that people often try to diffuse the problem by teaching a lesson on homophones, thus permanently sealing the "oh yeah, these are easily mistaken" idea in memory and ensuring eternal confusion over which form to use.

I hate that so much.

Also, whale biologist English major.

There's some cultural acceptance of this kind of behavior actually. Sure, in English, people misuse your/you're all the time, but it's not considered 'correct', it's always considered a mistake.

In Japan, there are many kanji that sound exactly the same and have ridiculously similar meanings. For an example where the meanings are different enough to express in basic English, let's look at "Kiku", which can mean 'to listen' or 'to ask'. The kanji for 'to listen' is quite simple to draw, whereas the kanji that specifically means 'to ask' is much more complicated. In printed text, the differentiation is always made. However, when people are writing things by hand, it's considered perfectly acceptable to use the easier kanji. Even teachers of Japanese language use this when they aren't specifically teaching the kanji for 'to ask'.

Japanese has tons of such homophones, often with even LESS difference in meaning than 'to ask'/'to listen'. It makes them very homophone-conscious language-learners. I wouldn't have to teach a lesson on you're/your for them to see the similarity in sound. In fact, I haven't. They make mistakes in spelling all the time, mostly because there's so many spellings to remember - and they don't see/use English enough to have the spellings constantly beat into their minds. I correct them and they're getting better, but they're not there yet. And in some ways, they may never be there, especially if they never travel outside of Japan. I'm just happy when they don't spell "Lunch" as "Ranti".

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #114 on: January 31, 2009, 04:30:46 AM »
So after marveling at the haunted-vagina link, I was browsing through the ISB archive and found this.

http://www.the-isb.com/?p=633
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #115 on: January 31, 2009, 09:34:57 AM »
Japanese being Phonetic language is kind of explanation enough.

"Who is a computer".  First line.  Direct response is "Hey kid, I'm a computer!"
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #116 on: February 02, 2009, 04:13:07 AM »

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #117 on: February 02, 2009, 08:43:05 AM »
See, and here I thought that the HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? referred to the murderous rage.  Seeing as this is a generally intelligent person getting upset that young people learning English from a mish mash of random sources managed to screw up something that even people competant in the language need to worry about messing up.

No need for the snark. You have a perfectly valid point.

It just happens to be one of my pet peeves.

There was actually no snark intended, so my apologies that you saw it there.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #119 on: February 02, 2009, 06:03:46 PM »
http://www.finalfantasy13game.com/
FF13 trailer that actually shows gameplay.

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(webgame) Pretty solid indie game built from a mario base.  Takes about 15-25 minutes to play and has a cool concept behind it.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #120 on: February 02, 2009, 06:47:27 PM »
http://www.forbes.com/2007/12/10/largest-fictional-companies-oped-books-fict1507-cx_mn_de_1211company_slide.html
25 largest fictional companies in the world (weird website--automatically goes to the next item on the list, and you only control the time it takes between changing).

One of the best lists ever. Acme is a few places too high, but still awesome. Just... wow.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #121 on: February 02, 2009, 07:04:25 PM »
The research they put into it is pretty badass, too. Most people would have just based the Stark Enterprises entry on the movie, but somebody at Forbes decided to suffer for his art and read Civil War, too.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnCnRuoYMxE
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #122 on: February 02, 2009, 08:44:46 PM »
To make this more on-topic: http://bored.com/games/play/328/Pandemic-2.html

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #123 on: February 02, 2009, 09:36:17 PM »
Not nearly enough Eurocorp.  Could use some updating with the shift from Stark Industries to Oscorp based technologies lately from the Military I believe. Also no Kuat Drive Yards?  Even BlasTech Industries?  Being like the primary battle cruiser provider for the Galactic Empire is nothing to sneeze at, or even just the patent holder and majour producer for the standard issue E-11 Blaster rifle deserves a nod!
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #124 on: February 02, 2009, 10:40:45 PM »
Obviously they were going for very mainstream recognized fictional companies, to the point that they're stretching to fit some of them in.  (For instance, no way does Gringotts belong on this list; the population it deals with is just too damn small).
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