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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1050 on: October 29, 2009, 10:40:30 PM »
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1051 on: October 29, 2009, 10:58:27 PM »
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-dj-hero/58264?type=flv
Huh, for once a game I've worked on is getting good reviews.

You mean other than Web of Shadows right?  I thought the overall response to it was pretty strong?  Other than maybe a bit to much fighting I thought critical response was fairly alright.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1052 on: October 29, 2009, 11:40:02 PM »
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-dj-hero/58264?type=flv
Huh, for once a game I've worked on is getting good reviews.

You mean other than Web of Shadows right?  I thought the overall response to it was pretty strong?  Other than maybe a bit to much fighting I thought critical response was fairly alright.

WoS reviews were reeeeealy mixed.  Generally they were either 60 or they were 80 (the 80s included Gamespot, the site notorious for being hardasses; also, Zero Punctuation didn't hate it).  Averaged about 70 in the end, which may well make it the second lowest reviewed game I've worked on.  Ironic >_>

But uhh, yeah, DJ Hero's getting lots of 90s and stuff.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1053 on: October 29, 2009, 11:43:15 PM »
DJ Hero is Guitar Hero with a disc-scratcher?
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1054 on: October 29, 2009, 11:49:05 PM »
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1055 on: October 30, 2009, 12:10:51 AM »
DJ Hero is Guitar Hero with a disc-scratcher?

Kinda.  I guess I'll assume that since reviews are being posted that the NDA period is up...

There's three major selling points: first, it's a completely new instrument.  Second, the music is pretty unique--it's all mashups (playing two songs simultaneously overtop of each other, perfectly on-beat so it actually sounds good) and it uses a lot of audio recordings that Guitar Hero would never touch.  Third, the audio is all tied directly to player control; which is to say Easy, Medium, and Hard are actually completely different audio tracks because the user input is different in each mode.

I'm not sure how much of a future it has from a franchise perspective; price point could shut it down at the shelves ($120) and the fact that you need to re-mix separate audio tracks for all difficulties makes it much harder to pump out gobs of content like ATVI has done with the Guitar Hero franchise.  Though I'll admit: I never really thought about how the gaming press would react to it.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1056 on: October 30, 2009, 12:16:38 AM »
Hmmmm. Sorta wish this was available for the PS2, but then, the reason I don't play GH games is because I'm not yet willing to shell out over $150 for a toy guitar that I'll use to play a game, and DJ Hero wouldn't be any difference in that regard. Sort of a pity, since I like rhythm games, and I found what I played of GH1 quite good.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1057 on: October 30, 2009, 02:34:44 AM »
When MC says "completely new instrument," she means it, too. Reading hands-on reports about DJ Hero, the input is completely different from...well, anything I've ever done, video game or otherwise.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1058 on: October 30, 2009, 04:09:52 AM »
* NotMiki grumbles about kids these days and their new-fangled alternate controllers, and how in his day a DDR pad was all the alternate controller one would need, uphill both ways.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1059 on: October 30, 2009, 04:33:12 AM »
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1060 on: October 30, 2009, 04:50:14 AM »
We've been getting alternative controllers since -Duck Hunt-, old man. >.>;;

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1061 on: October 30, 2009, 05:05:01 AM »
Which raises the question of where all the wiimote-as-lightgun games are...
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1062 on: October 30, 2009, 06:03:02 AM »
Which raises the question of where all the wiimote-as-lightgun games are...

Aren't there a bunch of these already?

I just got the RE railshooter and that's all the wiimote-as-lightgun action I need, but I imagine there's a ton of shovelware and mini-game collections that do this.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1063 on: October 30, 2009, 06:09:21 AM »
When MC says "completely new instrument," she means it, too. Reading hands-on reports about DJ Hero, the input is completely different from...well, anything I've ever done, video game or otherwise.
If you've ever done actual DJing with actual DJ record decks, it's a fair bit like that (ignoring the coloured buttons on the record part of the controller >_>).  To be a truely authentic experience it needed two record turntables, and to remove the buttons, but instead it had this system of "this button is the left record, this button is the right record, and this button is the sampler" which nobody who's not a DJ will figure out on their own.  Granted, two turntables would jack up the controller cost even more, so I understand why they didn't do it....

We've been getting alternative controllers since -Duck Hunt-, old man. >.>;;
You do realize there was a home console on the market with a light gun 13 years before Duck Hunt, right?  (Also: 3 years before the home version of PONG, but that's a different story).

Which raises the question of where all the wiimote-as-lightgun games are...
They uhh...already exist.  Hell, one of the games in Wii Play is effectively Duck Hunt 2 (it really plays like it too).

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1064 on: October 30, 2009, 06:16:57 AM »
Well, yeah, I believe that, but I've never DJed so it's still true. I'm just saying that from what I've seen it's very much not Guitar Hero with a new controller.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1065 on: October 30, 2009, 06:34:43 AM »
We've been getting alternative controllers since -Duck Hunt-, old man. >.>;;
You do realize there was a home console on the market with a light gun 13 years before Duck Hunt, right?  (Also: 3 years before the home version of PONG, but that's a different story).

Actually, no, I wasn't aware. Is it common knowledge? What console?

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1066 on: October 30, 2009, 07:01:56 AM »
I had one actually, though for the life of me I can't remember the name.  It was my uncle's really but he left it at the grandparents' house.  It was a box with a couple dials on it that picked what games you were playing and it had stuff like pong and skeet shooting.  Probably not the one mc is talking about since this had Pong though.  Man, now that name is going to bug me...

I'm not sure how old it was but I know he had it before the Commodore 64 so it was at least close to as old as me.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1067 on: October 30, 2009, 08:20:51 AM »
I am just disappointed this didn't lead to a massive splurge of research into House or Ambient music like Gun minigame did with poker MC.  You could have broken into the wonderful worlds of Daft Punk and Aphex Twin.  APHEX TWIN.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1068 on: October 30, 2009, 08:46:06 AM »
Sorry, I should have specified: the history of alternate controllers starts with the one I care about and everything after that is crap in comparison by default.
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1069 on: October 30, 2009, 02:20:11 PM »
I am just disappointed this didn't lead to a massive splurge of research into House or Ambient music like Gun minigame did with poker MC.  You could have broken into the wonderful worlds of Daft Punk and Aphex Twin.  APHEX TWIN.

Seconded. Not that I'm completely super familiar with them, but I know enough to at least second this with gusto.

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1070 on: October 30, 2009, 04:35:11 PM »
We've been getting alternative controllers since -Duck Hunt-, old man. >.>;;
You do realize there was a home console on the market with a light gun 13 years before Duck Hunt, right?  (Also: 3 years before the home version of PONG, but that's a different story).

Actually, no, I wasn't aware. Is it common knowledge? What console?
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I am just disappointed this didn't lead to a massive splurge of research into House or Ambient music like Gun minigame did with poker MC.  You could have broken into the wonderful worlds of Daft Punk and Aphex Twin.  APHEX TWIN.

Oh I did get into different music because of DJ Hero.  Though most of the house/ambient stuff I got into was on the preceeding unreleased music project (<3 JUSTICE ...and, well, I already liked Daft Punk).  No, the music that DJ Hero got me more into was more Mashups:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRHfd9Yto0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCsMnF34wns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNWCclOqUHw

And also hip-hop:

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1071 on: October 30, 2009, 04:38:01 PM »
More AWESOME medicine-related Youtubes:

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1072 on: October 31, 2009, 12:57:50 AM »
Oh I did get into different music because of DJ Hero.  Though most of the house/ambient stuff I got into was on the preceeding unreleased music project (<3 JUSTICE ...and, well, I already liked Daft Punk).  No, the music that DJ Hero got me more into was more Mashups and Hip Hop

Fair enough.  Mashups have potential for either total awesome (see Alive 2009) or to be totally hilarious (See Cake Song/Closer for poorly done funny, see Smells Like Teens Spirit/Never Gonna Give You Up for well done and actually quite good but still funny).  Hard to pull off well though.

Hip Hop is as Hip Hop is.  Not my cup of tea but fair enough.

Edit - Token fucked up Aphex Twin video link goes here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tatccHVfuhA
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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
« Reply #1073 on: October 31, 2009, 05:52:59 PM »
http://member.square-enix.com/na/features/dq5/04/index.php

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Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance
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