Season 49, Week 3

[Dark Holy Elf]

Id doesn't do anywhere near 1.08HKO to most of us, I think. Regardless, Upper's pretty much nulling his damage (500 Def? Yeaah), so he casts that, survives the followup ether, and wins. The fight completely hinges on how much respect you have for Id's damage. Obviously you have a lot, but not everyone else does.

Once Upper's in place, Cristo can cruise. Doesn't matter that he's 6-7HKOing, he's not running out of healing before then.

[James_xeno]

Id doesn't do anywhere near 1.08HKO to most of us, I think. Regardless, Upper's pretty much nulling his damage (500 Def? Yeaah), so he casts that, survives the followup ether, and wins. The fight completely hinges on how much respect you have for Id's damage. Obviously you have a lot, but not everyone else does.

Once Upper's in place, Cristo can cruise. Doesn't matter that he's 6-7HKOing, he's not running out of healing before then.

How can you see it as anything other then what it is!?

[Dark Holy Elf]

Different levels/equips for Id, just like every other boss ever.

[James_xeno]

Different levels/equips for Id, just like every other boss ever.

Lv99 PC and game best equips?

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

No, just like two or three levels higher and possibly more defense-oriented setups, XG gives you that leeway. Considering how fast you gain levels in Xenogears, and considering how potent the defense stat is in-game, a notable difference wouldn't be farfetched with a different mindset and higher levels. Taking Id at L99, as such, would make him akin to Jogurt with speed, instead of the Heavy who has some semblance of an argument to beat Cristo.

[superaielman]

Id's margin of victory over Cristo is like less than 5% taken by Dhyer's numbers. This is an extremely close fight.

[Dhyerwolf]

Id's margin of victory over Cristo is like less than 5% taken by Dhyer's numbers. This is an extremely close fight.

It's actually basically nearly 20% exactly.

[superaielman]

You'd be wrong, because Id's losing a third of his damage with each DB. He does not like high defense.

[Dhyerwolf]

Are you including Cristo's 85% HP (because including the 1/3 reduction, Id is killing average HP by less than 5%)?

[superaielman]

Yeah.

[Clear Tranquil]

Eiko can cast Vanish with Carbunkle + Diamond. I don't know how long it would last Super but how long does it *have* to last? Depending on who goes first I guess if Eiko can get in a couple of Holy nukes with impunity ... how many hits does it take to KO Magdalen?

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Mags is above average durability, and risks OHKOing before Gambit as is. Since Vanish lasts like two turns at best and Eiko 3HKOs average, and Magdalen gets Gambit FP by his second turn, um yeah.

[Niu]

CT's a bit old, thus took me a while.
Lavos seems to only have 3 elemental attacks. Battle Flame and Flame Void being fire, and Crying Heavens being sky.

[Dhyerwolf]

Id's margin of victory over Cristo is like less than 5% taken by Dhyer's numbers. This is an extremely close fight.

It's actually basically nearly 20% exactly.

And math to show it!
Id gets in his double deathblow (cut by a third and two spells) or 2/3 (160x2) + 70 + 70 =353.
Cristo has 85% average HP, or 0.85 x 345 = 293 HP is Xenogears terms. So Id does have a nice error of killing.

Also of note, 70 damage from Ether is basically what someone with 33-34 Edef at this point takes. This is about Billy's natural Ether Defense around L45.

Even if you take 100 Defense as average (10 points higher than Gourry or I did, which is feasible) and takes Gourry's slightly lower Edef number and my higher HP, Id still has the numerical win.

Rhapthorne (DQ8) vs False Althena (Lunar:EBC) - I dunno.  More kneejerk respect for Rhapthorne, as I still don't recall FA being all that tough.  Probably helps a bit that I don't let FA spam her big damage laser, meaning I suspect she only 3HKOs here.

Snowfire, while not letting a boss spam a big move all the time, does this really hurt FA more than Rhapthorne? FA still has like 80% physical damage and it also means that Rhapthorne also shouldn't be allowed to spam his best all the time.