Star Ocean: Till the End of Time

[Clear Tranquil]

Fair enough though I wasn't factoring in Berserk there >_> That's Peppita/Maria's turn 2 damage without Berserk to go with OK's non Berserk 99 Fury HP damages, sorry I should've made that clearer =(

99 Fury HP Damages: 31794

*) Peppita- 63378 HP Damage (Powerdanced Dream Hammer - O - Turn 2)
*) Maria -  63168 HP damage (Powerupped Short X-Energy Burst X 125% - Turn 2)
1) Peppita - 58711 (Short X-Fairie Friend X 125%-Fairie Friend O 175%-Fairie Friend X 225%) [9% HP loss]
2) Nel - 42240 (Short X-Divine Wrath X 125%-Divine Wrath O 175%) [17% HP loss]
3) Maria - 42112 (Short X-Energy Burst X 125%) [4% HP loss]
4) Cliff - 41305 (Short X-Max Shockwave X 125%-Max Shockwave O 175%) [16% HP loss]
*) Adray -  38553 (Powerupped Short X-Emotion Torrent X 125%-Emotion Torrent O 175%-Emotion Torrent X 225%- Turn 2
5) Mirage - 35555 (Short X-Acrobat Locus X 125%-Triple Kick O 175%-Acrobat Locus X 225%) [13% HP loss]
6) Adray - 25702 (Short X-Emotion Torrent X 125%-Emotion Torrent O 175%-Emotion Torrent X 225%) [16% HP loss]
7) Fayt - 23026 (Short X-Side Kick X 125%-Side Kick O 175%-Side Kick X 225%-Side Kick O 300%) [12% HP loss]
8) Albel - 21827 (Short X-Double Slash of Fury X 125%) [Effectively 0% HP loss]
9) Roger - 17670 (Short X-Star Fall X 125%-Fiery Axe O 175%) [10% HP loss]
10) Sophia - 9791 (Short X-Southern Cross X 125%-Southern Cross O 175%) [9% MP loss]

With Adray that probably changes the average somewhat though I don't know how averages are worked out myself.

You don't even want to know what Faerie Friend/Dream Hammer's Berserk damage is, especially w/th Power Dance >_>

Honestly I'd be happy with an alternative 2HKO (to Faerie Friend) for Peppita that everyone would be ok with =-) I still allow FF myself because it's the same as Divine Wrath, Acrobatic Locus and Max Shockwave with the hit issues solved by player skill factors to me but eh.

Edit - Durr *pours coffee on self* Now that I think about it you were probably taking into account OK's damages anyway since you mentioned a 1.5 times average thing~

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

* Jo'ou Ranbu checks.

Actually, Peppitta and Maria wouldn't OHKO average even with the 31k damage figures, just above 2x average damage. That OHKOs... the frail, I think, and it's a good 2HKO, but it's still taking three turns to kill an average PC in the short term. Better for continual heal-locks, I guess, assuming they -get- that much time.

[Clear Tranquil]

Thanks Snow ^_^

Peppita is maybe just better using a eight hit average Faerie Friend or even a Power Dance (LX) > Magic Hook (LO) > Faerie Friend (SX) for 2HKO on turn 2 then, dunno about Maria.

[Clear Tranquil]

Healing Dance - 8 Healing Dances in a chain with Berserk only, 38 ticks per dance
HP restore per tick - ~450 per tick average at 100% (15'960), 787 at 175% (29'906), 900 at 200% (34'200), 1125 at 250% (42'750), and 1350 at 300%, 300%, 300%, 300% (51'300 x 3)

Potential healing - 276'716
Average PC end game - 13'388
Peppita's HP end game - 12'086

Edit - OK how does this look -

Ideal  DL combo - Healing Dance X (6 CP) > Frozen Daggers/Instanto Blast/Magic Hook (3/4/2 CP) + No Guard (5CP) - Heals (roughly 138'358 in a full chain) until she freezes/IDs/confuses things ded~

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Divine Wrath -
Max Hits - 18
Factors - Knockdown/Knockback-  If blade section of move does not end up catching enemy up in a juggle and knocks enemy down or too far away  the rest of the move i.e the whirlwind section will miss - Interference - If an ally or object blocks Nel's path when using Divine Wrath the rest of the move will not occur - Interuptibility - Quick enemy attacks may knock Nel out of her chain.
AVG Hits - 9 - 11

Faerie Friend-
Max Hits - 10
Factors - Knockdown/Knockback - If the enemy is knocked down at the start of the move when the creature pops out of the ground two hits will miss while the enemy is on the ground, if the whirlwind section at the end of the move knocksback the enemy two hits will miss - Interuptibility - Enemy attacks may knock Peppita out of her chain if she does not knock the enemy down at start up (follow up phase after creature pops out of ground is sluggish - whirlwind phase at end is rapid)
AVG Hits - 6 - 8

Max Shockwave-
Max Hits - 7
Factors - If Cliff knocks enemy down/back too far he loses hits - Target Size - Like Peppita's Kaboom Cliff scores more hits the larger the target and less the smaller (vs chibi Lenneths + Freya's he might be reduced to three hits for example) - Start up - Max Shockwave has a start up time - Interuptibility - Enemies may knock Cliff out of his chain during start up.
AVG Hits - 3 - 5

Side Kick-
Max Hits - 3
Factors - Side Kick often has accuracy issues scoring full hits per use on enemies smaller than those with significant mass and if the enemy is *too* small the move will whiff entirely.
AVG Hits - 0-2

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[OblivionKnight]

Updates time!

Yeah, a little late coming >_> 

This post contains offensive magic with 100 proficiency (around level 2).  I'll do Berserk numbers next post.

As an aside, fuck the magic equations >_>  People doing math need to fucking explain things directly and expansively.



Fayt Leingod

INT: 128 (138)

Symbology
Lightning Blast: 83x8 (666); 10 MP, 20 Fury Wind Element
Deep Freeze: 295x4 (1180); 80 MP, 30 Fury Water Element
Stone Rain: 279x6 (1674); 80 MP, 40 Fury Earth Element
Explosion: 385x5 + 769x5 (5770); 300 MP, 40 Fury Fire Element



Sophia Esteed

INT: 315 (465)

Symbology
Healing: Heals 35% of a target's max HP, rising by 5% per level to a max of 85% max HP; 20 MP, 20 Fury
Antidote: Cures poison; 10 MP, 20 Fury
Silence: Silences target ~20%, rising by 5% per level to a max of ~70%; 10 MP, 20 Fury
Acid Rain: Lowers targets' defense by 20%; 15 MP, 20 Fury
Protection: Raises defense by 50%; 30 MP, 20 Fury
Cure Condition: Heals negative status; 15 MP, 20 Fury
Restoration: Revives an ally, healing 10% of their max HP and MP, rising by 5% per level up to a maximum of 60% of their max HP and MP; 60 MP, 60 Fury
Power Up: Raises attack by 50%; 30 MP, 20 Fury
Crush: 895x2 (1790); 25 MP, 20 Fury Earth Element
Fairy Light: Heals 35% of all targets' max HP, rising by 5% per level to a max of 85% max HP
Reflection: Reduces magic damage received by 50%; 30 MP, 20 Fury
Dark Sphere: Inflicts instant death to targets ~100% when target is below 10% HP, rising by 5% below max HP per level up to a maximum of ~60%; 200 MP, 40 Fury
Gravitation: Reduces targets' movement speed by 50%; 30 MP, 20 Fury
Angel Feather: Raises all stats by 20%; 30 MP, 20 Fury

Firebolt
X: 268 at level 0 up to a max of 268x4 (1072) at level 9 and above; 10 MP, 20 Fury
O: 348 at level 0 up to a max of 348x4 (1392) at level 9 and above; 5% MP, 42 Fury
Fire Element

Ice Needles
X: 164x5 (820) at level 0 up to a max of 164x10 (1640) at level 8 and above; 10 MP, 20 Fury
O: 213x5 (1065) at level 0 up to a max of 213x10 (2130) at level 9 and above; 5% MP, 42 Fury
Water Element
*Inflicts freeze at ~10% per hit

Lightning Blast
X: 214x8 (1712); 10 MP, 20 Fury
O: 278x8 (2224); 5% MP, 42 Fury
Wind Element

Earth Glaive
X: 279x3 (837); 10 MP, 20 Fury
O: 362x3 (1086); 5% MP, 42 Fury
Earth Element

Efreet
X: 396x4 (1584); 35 MP, 30 Fury
O: 515x4 (2060); 8% MP, 60 Fury
Fire Element

Thunder Flare
X: 215x5 + 789 (1864); 40 MP, 30 Fury
O: 280x5 + 809 (2209); 8% MP, 60 Fury
Wind Element

Deep Freeze
X: 426x4 (1704); 80 MP, 30 Fury
O: 554x4 (2216); 10% MP, 60 Fury
Water Element

Stone Rain
X: 443x6 (2658); 80 MP, 30 Fury
O: 576x6 (3456); 10% MP, 72 Fury
Earth Element

Laser Beams
X: 633x6 (3798); 150 MP, 40 Fury
O: 823x6 (4938); 12% MP, 72 Fury

Explosion
X: 467x5 + 933x5 (7000); 300 MP, 40 Fury
O: 607x5 + 1213x5 (9100); 12% MP, 72 Fury
Fire Element

Lightning Strike
X: 607x8 (4856); 300 MP, 50 Fury
O: 789x8 (6312); 12% MP, 86 Fury
Wind Element

Blood Scylla
X: 546x3 (1638) HP Damage, 191x3 (573) MP Damage; 300 MP, 40 Fury
O: 710x3 (2130) HP Damage, 249x3 (747) MP Damage; 12% HP, 72 Fury
*All damage dealt from this move is restored to Sophia, both HP and MP

Southern Cross
X: 483x6 (2598) HP Damage, 169x6 (1014) MP Damage; 120 MP, 30 Fury
O: 628x6 (3378) HP Damage, 220x6 (1320) MP Damage; 8% MP, 60 Fury

Gremlins
X: 290x6 (1740) HP Damage at level 0 up to a max of 290x10 (2900) at level 8 and above, 102x6 (612) MP Damage at level 0 up to a max of 102x10 (1020) at level 8 and above; 50 MP, 30 Fury
O: 377x6 (2262) HP Damage at level 0 up to a max of 377x10 (3770) at level 8 and above, 133x6 (798) MP Damage at level 0 up to a max of 133x10 (1330) at level 8 and above; 6% MP, 60 Fury
Earth Element
*There is a 10% chance per hit that the damage inflicted on that hit will be tripled

Meteor Swarm
O: 1233*4*3 (14796) HP Damage at level 0 up to a max of 1233*8*3 (29592) at level 10; 15% MP, 96 Fury
Fire Element
*This skill summons 12 meteors (24 at level 10) that strike randomly around the screen; each meteor that strikes a target hits 3 times; on average, 4 meteors will strike a target at level 0, with 8 striking at level 10; max damage assuming all hits is 44388 at level 0 and 88776 at level 10



Nel Zelpher

INT: 181

Symbology
Healing: Heals 35% of a target's max HP, rising by 5% per level to a max of 85% max HP; 20 MP, 20 Fury
Firebolt: 139 at level 0 up to a max of 139x4 (556) at level 9 and above; 10 MP, 20 Fury Fire Element
Ice Needles: 78x5 (390) at level 0 up to a max of 69x10 (690) at level 8 and above; 10 MP, 20 Fury Water Element *Inflicts freeze at ~10% per hit
Lightning Blast: 100x8 (800); 10 MP, 20 Fury Wind Element
Thunder Flare: 101x5 + 357 (862); 40 MP, 30 Fury Wind Element
Lightning Strike: 465x8 (3720); 300 MP, 50 Fury Wind Element



Adray Lasbard

INT: 267 (367)

Symbology
Healing: Heals 35% of a target's max HP, rising by 5% per level to a max of 85% max HP; 20 MP, 20 Fury
Antidote: Cures poison; 10 MP, 20 Fury
Silence: Silences target ~20%, rising by 5% per level to a max of ~70%; 10 MP, 20 Fury
Acid Rain: Lowers targets' defense by 20%; 15 MP, 20 Fury
Protection: Raises defense by 50%; 30 MP, 20 Fury
Cure Condition: Heals negative status; 15 MP, 20 Fury
Restoration: Revives an ally, healing 10% of their max HP and MP, rising by 5% per level up to a maximum of 60% of their max HP and MP; 60 MP, 60 Fury
Power Up: Raises attack by 50%; 30 MP, 20 Fury
Efreet: 357x4 (1428); 35 MP, 30 Fury Fire Element
Fairy Light: Heals 35% of all targets' max HP, rising by 5% per level to a max of 85% max HP
Thunder Flare: 176x5 + 622 (1502); 40 MP, 30 Fury Wind Element
Deep Freeze: 387x4 (1548); 80 MP, 30 Fury Water Element
Reflection: Reduces magic damage received by 50%; 30 MP, 20 Fury
Dark Sphere: Inflicts instant death to targets ~100% when target is below 10% HP, rising by 5% below max HP per level up to a maximum of ~60%; 200 MP, 40 Fury
Stone Rain: 394x6 (2364); 80 MP, 40 Fury Earth Element
Gravitation: Reduces targets' movement speed by 50%; 30 MP, 20 Fury
Explosion: 442x5 + 884x5 (6630); 300 MP, 40 Fury Fire Element
Laser Beams: 584x6 (3504); 150 MP, 40 Fury
Angel Feather: Raises all stats by 20%; 30 MP, 20 Fury
Lightning Strike: 558x8 (4464); 300 MP, 50 Fury Wind Element

Firebolt
X: 239 at level 0 up to a max of 239x4 (956) at level 9 and above; 10 MP, 20 Fury
O: 311 at level 0 up to a max of 311x4 (1244) at level 9 and above; 5% MP, 42 Fury
Fire Element

Ice Needles
X: 134x5 (670) at level 0 up to a max of 134x10 (1340) at level 8 and above; 10 MP, 20 Fury
O: 174x5 (870) at level 0 up to a max of 174x10 (1740) at level 9 and above; 5% MP, 42 Fury
Water Element
Inflicts freeze at ~10% per hit

Lightning Blast
X: 175x8 (1400); 10 MP, 20 Fury
O: 228x8 (1824); 5% MP, 42 Fury
Wind Element

Earth Glaive
X: 230x3 (690); 10 MP, 20 Fury
O: 299x3 (897); 5% MP, 42 Fury
Earth Element

Southern Cross
X: 434x6 (2604) HP Damage, 152x6 (912) MP Damage; 120 MP, 30 Fury
O: 564x6 (3384) HP Damage, 197x6 (1182) MP Damage; 8% MP, 60 Fury

[OblivionKnight]

And Berserk numbers!

For those who forget or want a refresher - Berserk is a skill the entire cast can utilize.  It increases damage done by 30%, reduces fury costs by 30%, but increases damage received by 30%.  Much of the cast wants it.  

Not going to do full on notes for everyone, but will just redo the 99 Fury averages.  These do not include the previously posted proficiency-100 spells, and these include all skills in the game.


99 Fury HP Damages (with Berserk): 67073
1) Peppita - 131999 (Short X-Fairie Friend X 125%-Fairie Friend O 175%-Fairie Friend X 225%-Fairie Friend O 300%) [16% HP loss]
2) Nel - 98559 (Short X-Divine Wrath X 125%-Divine Wrath O 175%-Divine Wrath X 225%) [17% HP loss]
4) Cliff - 84327 (Short X-Max Shockwave X 125%-Max Shockwave O 175%-Max Shockwave X 225%) [12% HP loss]
3) Maria - 70100 (Short X-Magnetic Field X 125%-Energy Burst O 175%) [4% HP loss]
5) Mirage - 59572 (Short X-Acrobat Locus X 125%-Triple Kick O 175%-Acrobat Locus X 225%-Electric Fists O 300%) [13% HP loss]
9) Roger - 57728 (Short X-Piercing Claw X 125%-Raging Helmet O 175%-Piercing Claw X 225%-Raging Helmet O 300%) [20% HP loss]
6) Adray - 57000 (Short X-Emotion Torrent X 125%-Emotion Torrent O 175%-Emotion Torrent X 225%-Emotion Torrent O 300%) [24% HP loss]
7) Fayt - 56983 (Short X-Side Kick X 125%-Ethereal Blast O 175%-Side Kick X 225%) [15% HP loss]
8) Albel - 37893 (Short X-Dragon Roar X 125%-Shockwave Swirl O 175%-Dragon Roar X 225%) [5% HP loss]
10) Sophia - 16566 (Short X-Firebolt X 125%-Average Meteor Swarm O 175%-Firebolt X 225%) [15% MP loss]

99 Fury MP Damages (with Berserk): 7443
1) Adray - 19961 (Short X-Sirocco X 125%-Sirocco O 175%-Sirocco X 225%) [12% HP loss]
2) Peppita - 13009 (Short X-Fairie Friend X 125%-Fairie Friend O 175%-Fairie Friend X 225%-Fairie Friend O 300%) [16% HP loss]
3) Maria - 9009 (Energy Burst X) [4% HP loss]
4) Albel - 6370 (Short X-Aura Wall X 125%-Aura Wall O 175%-Aura Wall X 225%) [10% HP loss]
5) Fayt - 4880 (Short X-Side Kick X 125%-Ethereal Blast O 175%-Side Kick X 225%) [15% HP loss]
6) Cliff - 4687 (Long X-Aerial Assault X 125%-Aerial Assault O 175%-Aerial Assault X 225%) [8% HP loss]
7) Mirage - 4601 (Long X-Aerial Assault X 125%-Aerial Assault O 175%-Aerial Assault X 225%)
8) Sophia - 4191 (Short X-Gremlins X 125%-Gremlins O 175%-Gremlins X 225%) [6% MP loss]
9) Nel - 4186 (Splitting Sky X) [1% HP loss]
10) Roger - 3539 (Short X-Piercing Claw X 125%-Piercing Claw O 175%-Piercing Claw X 225%-Piercing Claw O 300%-Piercing Claw X 300%) [12% HP loss]

And for Super's mass Albel hype, here is Berserked Vampire Flash:

X: 647 HP draining damage and 65 MP draining damage; 99 Fury provides 15 hits for a total of 9705 HP draining and 975 MP draining
O: 971 HP draining damage and 104 MP draining damage; 99 Fury provides 10 hits for a total of 9710 HP draining and 1040 MP draining

Using a single short X to chain into the weak version provides for 11000 HP and 1100 MP draining

Status Infliction Rates
These assume full spamming of a status attack, if possible, via full Fury gauge.  These assume no Berserk at the moment...I'll add that in later, just like I intend to add Berserk non MoT/Sphere 211 skill damage averages later.  Assuming these skills are at level 0.  Fuck you, Super >_>  

Fayt
Paralysis (Dimension Door 99 Fury): 99%

Sophia
Freeze (Ice Needles 99 Fury): 79%

Peppita
Confusion (Magical Hook 99 Fury): 74%
Freeze (Frozen Daggers 99 Fury): 72%
Instant Death (Kaboom 99 Fury): 79%

Nel
Freeze (Ice Daggers 99 Fury...which is once): 58%
Poison (Poison Cloud 99 Fury): 99% (theoretically 100%)

Adray
Confusion+Paralysis+Petrification (Titan Fist 99 Fury): 88% confusion, 27% paralysis, 14% petrification
Freeze (Ice Needles 99 Fury): 79%

Roger
Confusion (Whirling Heat 99 Fury): 51%

Maria
Confusion (Aiming Device 99 Fury): 84%
Paralysis (Magnetic Field 99 Fury): 86%
Paralysis (Energy Burst 99 Fury): 99% (theoretically 100%)

Albel
Confusion (Aura Wall 99 Fury): 94%


Just a note, two independent status checks of 45 don't add up to 90. They add up to about 70. Same reason two 60's don't add up to 120 (which is obviously impossible).

1 - (1 - 0.45)*(1 - 0.45).

[Clear Tranquil]

Could you do the rates on chained Panic Dance too if possible OK <3 Also mind if I post Peppita's Power Dance > Faerie Friend chain? -

Peppita - 230'998~ HP, 20'000~ MP (184'798, 18'000~, eight hit AVG)(Short X - Power Dance X - Faerie Friend O > Power Dance X > Faerie Friend O > Power Dance X > Faerie Friend O 300% [60 MP, 8~% HP loss]

Random titbits - All dances, symbology, Side Kick and Scatter Beams have lower requirements for levelling up than other moves/and or can be chained into really fast for enchancing proficiency building. Power Dance can also be cancelled into an offensive move like Faerie Friend with the buff from Power Dance being retained. Both Albel and Peppita have counters, Albel has one variant, short animation/invincibility frame, chains into battle skills. Peppita has two variants counter X, short animation, low chance of chaos, chains into battle skills or counter O medium animation, high chance of chaos cannot chain into battle skills. Side Kick and all dances have invincibility frames that can be chained into each other for a long frame of invincibility vs enemy attacks (does not translate to DL YMMV)

Mastery examples -

Fayt -

Side Kick L5 - 529

*Note that with Berserk Fayt can use nine, yes that's right nine Side Kicks per chain >.>

Maria -

Scatter Beam L5 - 449
Scatter Beam L10 - 1674

Peppita -

Power/Healing/Panic/Magical Dance L5 - 184
Power/Healing/Panic/Magical Dance L10 - 880

(Priority Power Dance, Healing/Panic Dance secondary)

*Peppita can chain dances into themselves/each other eight times with Berserk

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MGSB's status info (SA = status resistance) -

<fruitbean>" Not very precise, just estimations from using the attacks a bunch of times against 16 SA Lesser Devils. % are rated on a per hit basis, not the entire move.
<fruitbean> Dimension Door- 20% paralysis
<fruitbean> Aiming Device- 60% chaos
<fruitbean> Magnetic Field- 30% paralysis
<fruitbean> Energy Burst- 10% paralysis
<fruitbean> Poison Cloud- 84% poison
<fruitbean> Ice Daggers- 30% freeze
<fruitbean> Albel's short major- 60% chaos
<fruitbean> Aura Wall- 30% chaos
<fruitbean> Peppita's counter X and counter O- 50% chaos
<fruitbean> Frozen Daggers- 20% freeze
<fruitbean> Panic Dance- 84% chaos (I'm guessing, like Healing and Magical Dance, at L10 it has a total of 38 "ticks", or chances, of inflicting chaos)
<fruitbean> Land Mines- 10% chaos
<fruitbean> Whirling Heat- 20% chaos
<fruitbean> Titan Fist- 50% chaos, 10% paralysis, 1-2% petrification"

[Clear Tranquil]

Posting this here for SO3 dungeon stuffs/for easier future reference as well -

By the way I finished with the SO3 DM testing for future reference/finished doing the characters I still had to do @ SO3 AVGs dungeon F3. I didn't know whether end of disc one/L30~ was legal for disc one or not (probably assumes a Triple EXP interp either way) so I went with the lower level take.

*Notes I went with skill/proficiency and Berserk for the characters who had it -

Albel - 30'900~ (Shockwave Swirls, Berserk)
Adray - 2160~ (Chaos Tides, no Berserk)
Cliff - 62'000~ (Hammer of Mights, Berserk)
Fayt - 27'020~ (Side Kicks/Berserk)
Nel - 15'300~ (Ice Daggers, Berserk)
Maria - 31'500~ (Scatter Beams, Berserk)
Mirage - 15'900~ (Hammer of Mights, no Berserk)
Peppita - 24'000~ (Magic Hook)/23'000 (Frozen Daggers) (Power Dance > Magic Hook/Frozen Daggers. no Berserk)
Roger - 57'000~ (Fiery Axe, Berserk)
Sophia - 1150~ (Lightning Blasts, no Berserk)
Total DM - 266'930
AVG - 26'693

*All the moves were chained to their full extents as far as Berserk or no would allow them, Nel's Ice Daggers has higher Fury costs than the others so her chaining is limited even with Berserk which is why her offence is lower here (and she doesn't have a better move at lower levels), skill proficiencys, Power Dance was a L5 (100 uses to L6) I just took L5 because I used one of my low level solo files to do the testing and I had to level characters/skills up >_> L5 seems reasonable for Power Dance here though if Peppita gets it F2 in the dungeon  it might be a higher LV depending. Usually through general play/normal file I'd have it higher than L5 pretty sharp time wise myself through controlling Peppita as leader and quickly chaining/cancel bonus comboing it which you can do with her as leader/especially since she gains proficiences for it so rapidly compared to other character skills for esp the first few SLVs  but YMMV.

Bah. You guys were right. Peppita's offence does fail on the early floors I guess =/ I was so sure she was going to hit average, but once I got figures for the characters I still had to do =/ Some leniency on Power Dance LVs might allow her to still do so/a bit above but yeaahh. She's really hurting for Berserk.

Might edit later to look tidier as well. Working on different speed interps/distance from start to enemy/range to melee/dance/spell speeds too.