First of all, I'm not deadset on lynching you. I think you've brought up some good points on how focused Alex is and have helped put Alex higher on my list of suspicions, but I still see you as the most suspicious choice. The issue isn't that you wouldn't reveal your thoughts, the issue is that you led down a random wild goose chase, which didn't really have any benefit for town but could have had several benefits for scum.
Even when voting for Smodge, he still somehow tries to sit right on the fence on the issue.
I definetely wasn't trying to sit on the fence on this issue. Smodge had asked almost immediately before why we were so focused on lynching him (He actually used the terminology of "you" but also noted Alex separately implying that he was speaking to non-Alex voters. Of course, since my posts were the ones directly proceeding it, it made it appear that he was aimign the question at me). I wasn't deadset on lynching him. The only person who was deadset on lynching Smodge was Alex. If someone appeared scummier that day, I would have changed my vote because I was not deadset on lynching him. But I did vote to lynch him.
"Adds in another bit about Alex/Ciato, but it basically says to me that he doesn't want to get involved."
I noticed this in post 349. This is nothing like what I said at all. I said my suspicions were going in several ways, not that I didn't want to get involved. Why did I not switch my vote? Because you were still on top of my suspicious list, so it made perfect sense for me to stick with my vote. If I had to choose between Alex and Ciato, I would have voted for Alex. I had many issues with him for a lot longer because of how focused he was on Smodge, which made me question him during day 3. That doesn't negate that he pointed out that Ciato misrepresented her actions during day 3. But neither of them was still at the top of my suspicions list!
On Some Stuff With Meeple last round.
http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=300.315Okay, if I'm being called wishy-washy because I was not blatantly attacking Smodge but noted that I found multiple people suspicious at that time, that would imply that a number of other people including yourself should fall into the same category, as these next few posts show.
http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=300.msg3737#msg3737http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=300.msg3797#msg37971. Meeple notes that Smodge was acting suspicious and it might be a cover-up, and it's hard to hell.
2. Basically a summary of the activities of the few days before. Meeple notes that Smodge is the scummiest, but he seems reticent to name him that throwing in a "seems" and an "I guess" indicating that he didn't feel strongly about this at all.
Finally, at the end of the day, he votes for Smodge and says that he still doesn't know how he feels about Smodge, and that he was choosing to lynch to help town and not because of any strong feelings of his. If I'm reading the times correctly, there was still around 21 hours left until the deadline, so if Meeple wasn't feeling confident enough on his vote, then there wasn't a true rush. Yes, Meeple was more decisive on Smodge day 2, but he also unvoted pretty quickly based on Smodge's role claim. Yes, I didn't take the strongest stance on this, but I was hardly the only one.
Things I find curious at the moment: Yakumo's stance on Ciato.
http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=300.msg4267#msg4267Yakumo votes on Ciato, noting that he finds the case against her to being the strongest. He doesn't really say anything else on that measure. Ciato asks in her next post what case that was. Yakumo never addresses this question again; his only activity later is to come in and switch his vote without any other real conversation attached. Today, he implies that his main problem with her was that she appeared to snap at Alex. Was that the cause for his vote, and why did he never go in-depth and only generally mention the arguments around her without going into detail? I will find it odd that the was the only justification he gave on his vote for most of the day.
Since people want my opinions!
Meeple- The number of posts still saying that they have no read on Meeple is a little scary. My gut reaction from some of my above readings is that he's not as decisive as he's appeared to others. Note that like Ciato, he also missed that Zenny wasn't really silenced, and a lot of his posts seem rather heavy on reviewing the past couple of days.
Yakumo- My unease from yesterday is still there pretty strongly. The way he frames some of my posts definetely skew the meaning. On day 3, he didn't speak any thoughts about Smodge/Alex. At all. In fact, his only posts have to do with Tom, and he seems to be the only one who is focusing there at all. He doesn't mention anyone else in any manner on that day.
Ciato- Generally have town feelings about her. She at least called out Alex's tunnel vision, but I would like to hear her explanation of her day 4 presentation on her day 3 actions. Her frustration at Alex seems pretty genuine considered that he strongly pushed a lynch for several days saying nothing else could be revealed until that happened, and then going after her for because she called him on his tunnelvision. That said, like many others, she really didn't say much on day 3 either!
EvilTom- While many parts of his case against Yakumo were really flimsy, I get the sense of a townie trying to piece things together. He did try to deal with Smodge's questions on how the game would play out if Smodge flipped town/scum/third party, and I think he was the only one that did. That strengthens my feelings of townie effort from him.
Andrew- Day 1 lurking/WIFOM voting times. Day 2 he goes after Smodge rightly. He's more in the background day 3, eventually noting that he finds Smodge and Tom to be the more suspicious 2. Day 3 and 4 he's somewhat dropped off my radar though. Day 4 he seems to fall somewhat into LAL mode.
Tai- Still not too read on him at all.
##Vote: YakumoGuess my two main issues now are the way that he was framing some of my actions to make my look more indecisive when some of the times I was answering questions posed, and that he had was only focusing on a single person for all of day 3 while not dealing with most of the matter at hand at all. The EvilTom thing is likely something we just don't see eye to eye on, but I find the other two things reasonably suspicious.
