Breaking down my thoughts on everyone at this point:
Tai - Neutral read. Nothing to say yet.
Tom - Neutral read due to him being gone all of day 1. I'll keep an eye out today to see where my read goes.
Smodge - OK. This one gets it's own little synopsis down at the bottom. I just wanted to keep this in order.***
Dhyer - Town-ish read due to his responses to requests to explain his reasoning for votes and his general chatter.
Alex - I'm not touching the whole theme-speak thing because I can see a compelling reason for it to mean something and for Alex just wanting to do it. They effectively null out my read against each other. As for posts, a little heavy on the aggression when it came to the defense of his speak. I don't find this to be out of character for Alex, though. I'm getting a neutral read which I find is usual when I'm reading any game he's in. Going to have to work on that.
Yakumo - I'm finding it hard to get a read through the speak used here. I think I need to read back through his posts specifically and really try to decipher stuff. So much harder when speak is used.
Ciato - Having town thoughts. It's all gut and supposition, though.
Meeple - Great content posts. I'm getting a town feel, too.
Andrew - 1)I very much disagree with your stance on the self-hammer, but I think it's more of just a play-style difference of opinion here. It was a wonderful gambit when super did it in NR and perhaps Otter thought it would be just as effective (plus he got to put himself out of his misery). 2) Fabulous content in posts. Very detailed in analysis. Getting a good townie vibe here from what you're saying in those posts.
Excal - Shatner was fun. You get kudos for that. Getting a neutral read. I think the posts you've done here in Random are a little content light, but considering that you're pouring out the content in Discworld atm, I think it's more game distraction. Neutral read.
Zenny - I still don't like the early role claim. But you're only carrying the silver medal for 'Looking Scummy' right now.
***And the gold medal goes to:
##Vote SmodgeOK, let's take this from the top!
DAY 11-The Over Contemplated Alex-Smodge role issue. This has been spoken of to death. I will not add much when all I have to say is that it wasn't the best idea for Smodge to mention it, but Alex really jumped farther down Smodge's throat than I think was necessary. For precisely the reason Alex himself noted. A verbal smack and moving on is better rather than keeping roles topmost in everyone's mind and giving scum more to fiddle with and try to influence. Is this a Scum Tell (OH NOEZ!)? No. But it doesn't look good for him.
2 - When votes are tioed 4 and 4, it is Smodge that breaks the tie to Otter. is this indicitive of scum? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Again, not looking good.
Day 23 - The latch onto Tai is odd. Not that I think Tai's a townie at the moment (nor scum for that matter), but it really reads like he's grasping at straws trying to deflect.
4 - Your massive long post was excellent. Thank you. This provided much information. Just a thought, though:
a) In Mafia, you really have to watch your wording. The way you said in regards to Ciato: 'but then attacked me when i accidently incriminated myself further ' is all too easily taken to mean 'whoops, I said more scum stuff...gotta work on hiding that' just as much as it can be seen as 'wow, gotta be careful or I'll seem like scum here, and my fellow townies may lynch me'.
Now, does this mean *gasp&* I believe Him to Be Scum! No. But it...say it with me now folks...doesn't look good.
5 - Trying to confirm Zenny's roleclaim for him looks...suspicious for me. It wasn't necessary. And as a townie, very suspect unless you have some way of knowing that Zenny's town. It's either a slip of the investigative-role tongue, a slip of the scum tongue, or just poor thinking out loud again like #1. And...you know, I'm not even saying it again. Ditto. Bad juju.
6 - This one is what earned you my gold medal. And it also earned you my vote.
Also i didn't defend Zenny strongly, i said i found him neutral, i said i believe his role claim because it matches the pattern that i perceived, i said i would reveal it if Zenny was close to hammer, i never said i would use it against town i would have commented if it went against hte pattern but i wouldn't have used it as the sole bit of evidence.
Why reveal if Zenny is close to hammer? I know this issue was covered by Andrew, but it really bothers me. Why are you so certain that he is town? This certainty reads to some (and I admit, it reads to me in this fashion) that you're sure of his alignment because you already know it by virtue of him not being scum (or being scum and you're trying to protect him).
When you look at all the little slips and stumbles, they don't look too bad by themselves. But when you start adding them up, it's...rather bad. So I have to ask myself, do I believe you are a bad townie with a serious case of foot and mouth disease (with possible power role that your bad townieness is prolly going to lose us in a mislynch) or do I think that you're scum?
And I don't know. But I need to place a vote on the scummiest contender and right now that's you.
And on a final comment of amusement's factor for me:
Its no surprise that OK would use someone like her in a Mafia game, let alone someone like her as SCUM, if he's using nothing but everyone he thinks is a failure in one way or another. Which is to say, even if there *IS* that connection and some people don't realize how they fit in, it doesn't help out much cause it seems it applies to the scum as well.
I hope this is not the case. Because if all the characters are just seen as total fail, I am sorely disappointed in OK. I adore the person I got.
