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Proving Grounds: Light Championships
« on: March 17, 2009, 06:59:23 AM »
Results
Corselia 22-6 (8-5, 14-1)
Mallow 14-8 (3-7, 11-1)
Estella 13-9 (5-5, 8-4)
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Hugh 16-17 (3-12, 13-5)
Cai 10-11 (3-8, 7-5)
Yukari 12-15 (5-8, 7-7)

Corselia crush! A wealth of statuses immunes and bosses hit Hugh hard though.

The Finalists
1. Corselia- Suikoden flood: Water version 1: Evasion and Mdef!
2. Camus- Suikoden flood: Fire version 1: Now a Middle!
3. Mallow- Can he avoid assimilation!?
4. Andarc- Suikoden flood: Missing a paired Lightning version.
5. Beecham- Suikoden flood: Water version 2: Existant damage.
6. Estella- Suikoden Flood: Fire version 2: Perennial underdog!

The Matches
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Barret (FF7)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Grey (VP)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Swampert (Poke)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Banon (FF 6)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Bazba (S3)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Meg (S2)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Lucied (WA)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Collete (ToS)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Imoen (BG)
      
Camus (S2)   vs   Barret (FF7)
Camus (S2)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Camus (S2)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Camus (S2)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Camus (S2)   vs   Grey (VP)
Camus (S2)   vs   Swampert (Poke)
Camus (S2)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)
Camus (S2)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Camus (S2)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)
Camus (S2)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Camus (S2)   vs   Banon (FF 6)
Camus (S2)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Camus (S2)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Camus (S2)   vs   Bazba (S3)
Camus (S2)   vs   Meg (S2)
Camus (S2)   vs   Lucied (WA)
Camus (S2)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Camus (S2)   vs   Collete (ToS)
Camus (S2)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Camus (S2)   vs   Imoen (BG)
      
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Barret (FF7)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Grey (VP)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Swampert (Poke)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Banon (FF 6)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Bazba (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Meg (S2)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Lucied (WA)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Collete (ToS)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Imoen (BG)
      
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Barret (FF7)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Grey (VP)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Swampert (Poke)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Banon (FF 6)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Bazba (S3)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Meg (S2)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Lucied (WA)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Collete (ToS)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Imoen (BG)
      
Beecham (S3)   vs   Barret (FF7)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Grey (VP)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Swampert (Poke)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Banon (FF 6)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Bazba (S3)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Meg (S2)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Lucied (WA)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Collete (ToS)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Imoen (BG)
      
Estella (S3)   vs   Barret (FF7)
Estella (S3)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Estella (S3)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Estella (S3)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Estella (S3)   vs   Grey (VP)
Estella (S3)   vs   Swampert (Poke)
Estella (S3)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)
Estella (S3)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Estella (S3)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)
Estella (S3)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Estella (S3)   vs   Banon (FF 6)
Estella (S3)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Estella (S3)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Estella (S3)   vs   Bazba (S3)
Estella (S3)   vs   Meg (S2)
Estella (S3)   vs   Lucied (WA)
Estella (S3)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Estella (S3)   vs   Collete (ToS)
Estella (S3)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Estella (S3)   vs   Imoen (BG)
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Championships
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 09:30:01 AM »
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Barret (FF7)- Barret. Basically ITE limits to me.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Eiko (FF9)- Eiko
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Kraken (FF1)- Corselia. Pure ITE versus Corselia.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Nelis (S5)- Corselia. She cuts magic by a solid amount.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Grey (VP)- Grey. Faster+ITE+Evil second turn is not something she can panel out of.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Swampert (Poke)- Corselia. Vs Water magic and evadable physicals
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)- Typhlosion. Leer x4->Swift works. Wouldn’t if you saw BoI as Water instead of Ice, but think it had an icy animation too.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)- Poco. MP Busting works here. Needs a few attempts!
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)- Magdalen. Smashing faster ITE.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Peter (SF 2)- Corselia.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Banon (FF 6)- Banon.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)- Tellah. Some status, IIRC?
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Bernadette (S5)- Corselia. Bernadette just has issues making any damage stick past Corselia’s base 5% Regen…
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Bazba (S3)- Bazba
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Meg (S2)- Meg. Should have enough healing to outlast Corselia+Trick Rune is ITE? If Trick Rune is not ITE, then the match switches.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Lucied (WA)- Lucied. His draining…keeps him alive long enough given his solid HP.
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Reis (FF%)- Reis
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Collete (ToS)- Corselia
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)- Corselia
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Imoen (BG)- Imoen

Camus (S2)   vs   Barret (FF7)- Camus. As much damage as needed to not trigger an L2. If Barret wastes the limit on the MP bust, think he gets outslugged.
Camus (S2)   vs   Eiko (FF9)- Eiko
Camus (S2)   vs   Kraken (FF1)- Kraken
Camus (S2)   vs   Nelis (S5)- Nelis
Camus (S2)   vs   Grey (VP)- Camus
Camus (S2)   vs   Swampert (Poke)- Swampert
Camus (S2)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)- Typhlosion
Camus (S2)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)- Poco. MP kills all Camus stuff, and Camus can’t 2HKO with physical and best spell.
Camus (S2)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)- Magdalen. Marginally faster, 2HKOs.
Camus (S2)   vs   Peter (SF 2)- Peter
Camus (S2)   vs   Banon (FF 6)- Camus. Think…Banon’s evasion isn’t so great early, but still bad defense? So Camus can heal lock?
Camus (S2)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)- Camus
Camus (S2)   vs   Bernadette (S5)- Bernadette. Null Fire and stuff.
Camus (S2)   vs   Bazba (S3)- Bazba. Fire res means that Camus loses the 2HKO barely. Enough time to get the ID off.
Camus (S2)   vs   Meg (S2)- Camus. Physical heal lock, and he can outwait her SL.
Camus (S2)   vs   Lucied (WA)- Camus
Camus (S2)   vs   Reis (FF%)- Reis. 3HKOs Camus.
Camus (S2)   vs   Collete (ToS)- Collete. Nulls Fire and 3HKOs.
Camus (S2)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)- Sten. Does manage to stave off the firey 2HKO with the 41.25% resistance. Faster, 3HKOs with average magic damage.
Camus (S2)   vs   Imoen (BG)- Camus

Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Barret (FF7)- Barret. Mallow is not avoiding the evil.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Eiko (FF9)- Eiko
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Kraken (FF1)- Mallow. Lightning+DoS Kraken
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Nelis (S5)- Nelis. Pressure with weaker spell until a double. Maybe heal locks with her physical.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Grey (VP)- Grey
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Swampert (Poke)- Swampert. Mud Shot & Mallow 4HKOs
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)- Typhlosion. Heal locks and then doubles before running out of applicable spells. Or just eventually crits.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)- Poco. Mallow can’t quite heal lock with his physical, so his MP just trashed and Poco then wears him down.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)- Magdalen.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Peter (SF 2)- Peter
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Banon (FF 6)- Banon
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)- Tellah
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Bernadette (S5)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Bazba (S3)- Bazba. Mallow can’t kill him in time.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Meg (S2)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Lucied (WA)- Unsure. Mallow’s spells…are not cheap.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Reis (FF%)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Collete (ToS)- Collete. Mallow…4HKOs, and her damage outpaces his healing.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Imoen (BG)- Imoen. Mallow may have MT magic…but probably kills his MP too quickly.
     
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Barret (FF7)- Andarc. Feel like he can manipulate his damage enough to avoid the L2 and then smash.
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Eiko (FF9)- Eiko
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Kraken (FF1)- Andarc. Lightning+DoS Kraken
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Nelis (S5)- Nelis. Damage to smash through panels.
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Grey (VP)- Grey
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Swampert (Poke)- Swampert. Best is earth!
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)- Andarc. Mdef kills the 2HKO, I think. Then panels.
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)- Poco. Andarc’s physical isn’t quite enough for this.
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)- Magdalen
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Peter (SF 2)- Andarc. Panels make Peter do about 40% to Andarc, which isn’t enough, especially since Andarc counters.
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Banon (FF 6)- Andarc. Panel->Counter->Stun->Kill
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)- Tellah
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Bazba (S3)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Meg (S2)-
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Lucied (WA)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Reis (FF%)- Reis. 3HKOs off better speed.
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Collete (ToS)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)-
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Imoen (BG)
     
Beecham (S3)   vs   Barret (FF7)- Barret. Limit not avoided.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Eiko (FF9)- Beecham. Think SL gets her.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Kraken (FF1)- Beecham
Beecham (S3)   vs   Nelis (S5)- Beecham. Her best attacks are met with healing, her lesser ones are met by SL.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Grey (VP)- Grey. Beecham is heal locked.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Swampert (Poke)- Swampert. Nasty physicals.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)- Beecham
Beecham (S3)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)- Poco. Faster than SL.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)- Magdalen. Cheap heal locking.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Peter (SF 2)- Peter. Beecham is at least 5HKOing, and can’t quite get that much speed off all his stuff.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Banon (FF 6)- Banon. Infinite fullish healing trumps finite.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)- Tellah. Tellah is about 80% speed and SL is about 78% to me.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Bernadette (S5)- Beecham. Bernadette is killed under his SL, but he should weather her damage.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Bazba (S3)- Bazba. Excellent HP and defense means Beecham has some issues killing him quickly.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Meg (S2)- Beecham. Faster, and kills quicker too.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Lucied (WA)- Lucied
Beecham (S3)   vs   Reis (FFT)- Beecham. Not 2HKOed.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Collete (ToS)- Beecham
Beecham (S3)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)- Beecham
Beecham (S3)   vs   Imoen (BG)- Imoen. Stoneskin ensures that SL is wasted, and she has two statuses to mess him up.

Estella (S3)   vs   Barret (FF7)- Estella. Can chip well enough.
Estella (S3)   vs   Eiko (FF9)- Eiko
Estella (S3)   vs   Kraken (FF1)- Kraken
Estella (S3)   vs   Nelis (S5)- Nelis
Estella (S3)   vs   Grey (VP)- Estella. Faster 2HKO.
Estella (S3)   vs   Swampert (Poke)- Swampert
Estella (S3)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)- Typhlosion.
Estella (S3)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)- Poco. Estella can’t keep up the pressure with L3s and get a double in time.
Estella (S3)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)- Estella. Her L3 is faster and 2HKOs him.
Estella (S3)   vs   Peter (SF 2)- Peter
Estella (S3)   vs   Banon (FF 6)- How’s Banon’s Mdef when he leaves?
Estella (S3)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)- Estella. Faster OHKO.
Estella (S3)   vs   Bernadette (S5)- Bernadette
Estella (S3)   vs   Bazba (S3)- Estella. 25% Magic Resistance=ID isn’t turn one to me. Blazing Wall->Final Flame kills and runs him out of healing should he choose that route.
Estella (S3)   vs   Meg (S2)- Estella. Estella has 90% damage and is faster than Meg.
Estella (S3)   vs   Lucied (WA)- Estella
Estella (S3)   vs   Reis (FFT)- Estella. Reis doesn’t 2HKO her, the third hit is blocked, and therefore 4HKOs. Reis’s Faith is good, but not enough to take over 4000 S3 damage.
Estella (S3)   vs   Collete (ToS)- Collete. Fire nulling.
Estella (S3)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)- Estella. Sten can’t 3HKO since she has better than 75% Pdur and one of his 3 magic attacks misses.
Estella (S3)   vs   Imoen (BG)- Estella. Has some solid fast MT spells, and Fireshield isn’t enough resistance since Estella’s first spell knocks off a lot of Imoen’s HP.

Estella 10-9 (3-7, 7-2)
Beecham 9-11 (4-6, 5-5)
Corselia 7-13 (4-6, 3-7)
Camus 7-13 (2-8, 5-5)
Mallow 5-14 (1-9, 4-5)
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Championships
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 08:05:55 PM »
Corselia (S:T) vs. Barret (FF7) - Corselia, avoiding limit ranges. Ahahahahaha.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Eiko (FF9) - FF9 elemental nonsense+Corselia hates healers.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Kraken (FF1) - No Ice resistance, Kraken? Failure. Doesn't even have any sort of magic to at least break through the evade.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Nelis (S5) - Walls Water, which means Corselia can't deal consistent damage ever. Don't think it's enough to cut magical damage some when she's going last and quite likely getting 2HKOed (the HP is still bad and Nelis damage is pretty brutal). If I see her fire damage cancelling panels (I think I do), this gets worse.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Grey (VP) - ITE makes Corselia emo.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Swampert (Poke) - EDIT: FORESIGHT EARTHQUAKE
Corselia (S:T) vs. Typhlosion (Poke) - EDIT: SWIFT
Corselia (S:T) vs. Poco (ATL2) - Resources.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Magdalen (WA:ACF) - He may suck at hitting, but he's damn near OHKOing when he does at worst, and Corselia has serious issues getting him down to death range. Could be argued, obviously. Corselia matches are weird.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Peter (SF2) - Evade works its magic.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Banon (FF6) - THIS FIGHT NEVER ENDS but corselia averages more damage. ._.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Tellah (FF4) - Corselia needs -three turns- to kill Tellah. That's giving him way too much time.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Bernadette (S5) - Way too much difference in resources, is my kneejerk. Both utterly fail at damaging each other (Bern walls Water and mocks the physicals, Corselia mocks the damage from magic and inaccurate physicals), but Corselia has like 1/5 the healing.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Bazba (S3) - Bazba is horrible.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Meg (S2) - Don't think any command runes in S2 are ITE. That said, Meg has above average accuracy and deeper resources than Corselia, which doesn't bode well for her.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Lucied (WA) - Lucied fails to break through the regen alone. This is horrible.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Reis (FFT) - Breaths ignore evade, Faith (do they ignore Shell, though? That may change my mind), and Reis is a magical tank. There we go.
Corselia (S:T) vs. Sten (BoF2) - Heals out Sten's magic and evade, as usual, applies against the physicals.
     
Camus (S2) vs. Barret (FF7) - lol
Camus (S2) vs. Eiko (FF9) - Elemental nonsense.
Camus (S2) vs. Kraken (FF1) - Even with the elemental resistance, he 3HKOs first, I think.
Camus (S2) vs. Nelis (S5) - Wins even without elemental resistance. Faster, 2HKOs with ease.
Camus (S2) vs. Grey (VP) - Durable enough, 2HKOs most likely.
Camus (S2) vs. Swampert (Poke) - Now, here there's no 2HKO to Swampy.
Camus (S2) vs. Typholosion (Poke) - Been there, done that.
Camus (S2) vs. Poco (ATL2) - Faster and heal-locks with his physical - wait MP busting.
Camus (S2) vs. Magdalen (WA:ACF) - Faster, both 2HKO.
Camus (S2) vs. Peter (SF 2) - Faster, both should 3HKO.
Camus (S2) vs. Banon (FF 6) - Faster, heal-locks, may 2HKO through the shoddy healing.
Camus (S2) vs. Tellah (FF 4) - *Overkill.*
Camus (S2) vs. Bernadette (S5) - MOCK YOUR PUNY FIRE DAMAGES.
Camus (S2) vs. Bazba (S3) - Bazba.
Camus (S2) vs. Meg (S2) - Possibly outslugs Meg through SL, and heal-locks with his physical otherwise.
Camus (S2) vs. Lucied (WA) - Did Lucy have elemental resistances?
Camus (S2) vs. Reis (FFT) - Even with the MDef, I think Camus outslugs.
Camus (S2) vs. Sten (BoF2) - I'm not sure Camus loses the 2HKO even through resistance.
     
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Barret (FF7) - Limit.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Eiko (FF9) - Blar.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Kraken (FF1) - Heal-locking. Lightning weakness doesn't help here, Kraken goes first.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Nelis (S5) - More heal-locking.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Grey (VP) - Yeah. 2HKOs.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Swampert (Poke) - I -think-? Since Mallow just can't dodge that limit range and is getting heal-locked as is...
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Typholosion (Poke) - Death on a double.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Poco (ATL 2) - MP busting.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Magdalen (WA:ACF) - Magdalen smash Light healer.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Peter (SF 2) - EDIT: Wait both are average speed after the first turn because ShF speed is FTB too. This means Peter just heal-locks forever.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Banon (FF 6) - Failure.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Tellah (FF 4) - Failure.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Bernadette (S5) - uuuuuuuuh.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Bazba (S3) - Trash.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Meg (S2) - Silent Lake, 2HKOs, isn't 3HKOed. But hmmm, Mallow is faster after his first turn. I wonder. Could be argued.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Lucied (WA) - Resources.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Reis (FFT) - Resources.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs. Sten (BoF2) - Resources. Doubt Sten 2HKOs here.

Andarc (S:T) vs. Barret (FF7) - Andarc's ability to dodge the L2 is sad.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Eiko (FF9) - His ability to outpace Eiko is even sadder.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Kraken (FF1) - 2HKOs through the panel manipulation due to going first. Lightning weakness doesn't tilt this.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Nelis (S5) - Pretty similar to Kraken, but more brutal.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Grey (VP) - This is horrible, Andarc's facing a bunch of people faster than him who get him 2HKOed.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Swampert (Poke) - Swampert mocks Lightning with a vengeance, and Earthquake has a case for making Andarc's panels Earth - i.e. weakness ahoy. Ow. That's not even touching the whole "Swampert 2HKOs to begin with" issue.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Typhlosion (Poke) - Speed is a bit much, and the elemental screwing with the panel manipulation doesn't help either.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Poco (ATL2) - Healing.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Magdalen (WA:ACF) - 2HKOs.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Peter (SF2) - I'm going for the one who 2HKOs average. Andarc might be faster, but I doubt he's 3HKOing Peter... although Peter may still lose if Andarc is faster.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Banon (FF6) - Panel regen = Andarc averages more damage. Failure.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Tellah (FF4) - Lives.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Bernadette (S5) - Silent Lake may not be a good option... but Bernadette laughs at Andarc's magic and can cancel the affinity panels a lot. Andarc doesn't have the same level of resources.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Bazba (S3) - Bazba.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Meg (S2) - Stays up longer.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Lucied (WA) - Lucied is soooooooo breaking the regen with 6HKO damage.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Reis (FFT) - Um yeah, same issue with Cornelia.
Andarc (S:T) vs. Sten (BoF2) - Sten needs to crit with a physical in his first turn to win here.
     
Beecham (S3) vs. Barret (FF7) - 4HKO DAMAGE AGAINST FF7 L2S
Beecham (S3) vs. Eiko (FF9) - Outslugs past Silent Lake. Failure.
Beecham (S3) vs. Kraken (FF1) - 2HKOs, gg.
Beecham (S3) vs. Nelis (S5) - Heal-locks with a physical, and, unlike Eiko, doesn't get outslugged past SL by opening with a spell, and she can heal-lock even with a L2. That outraces his charges pretty handily.
Beecham (S3) vs. Grey (VP) - More 2HKOing.
Beecham (S3) vs. Swampert (Poke)- Yup.
Beecham (S3) vs. Typhlosion (Poke) - Beecham's durability just sorta sucks.
Beecham (S3) vs. Poco (ATL 2) - Awfully outresources. If Beecham tries to be cute with SL, MP-busting. The end.
Beecham (S3) vs. Magdalen (WA:ACF) - Yeah.
Beecham (S3) vs. Peter (SF 2) - More getting 2HKOed forever.
Beecham (S3) vs. Banon (FF 6) - Does Silent Lake shut down Health? Questions, questions.
Beecham (S3) vs. Tellah (FF 4) - Silent Lake on Beecham is quite probably -slower- than Tellah. Christ.
Beecham (S3) vs. Bernadette (S5) - I guess? I'm assuming ICY POIZN is turn one, which really is what she wants to to ensure a win at a SL slugfest. Otherwise, she still gets a free hit, and Beechaim ain't outhealing her.
Beecham (S3) vs. Bazba (S3) - Bazba.
Beecham (S3) vs. Meg (S2) - Meg heal-locks the frail, which Beecham is. Trick Rune ensures that she'll win under SL to boot.
Beecham (S3) vs. Lucied (WA) - Lucied loathes healers.
Beecham (S3) vs. Reis (FFT) - Hmmmmm.
Beecham (S3) vs. Sten (BoF 2) - A lot faster, and I guess he heal-locks to boot. Beecham doesn't take physicals well.
     
Estella (S3) vs. Barret (FF7) - I guess she can chip through the L1.
Estella (S3) vs. Eiko (FF9) - Elemental nonsense.
Estella (S3) vs. Kraken (FF1) - Walls fire and 2HKOs. Chippershreding, really.
Estella (S3) vs. Nelis (S5) - -This- is why I consider the "ohnoes nelis is spoilable ;_;" wahbulance overrated. As much as she's spoilable herself, she also has plenty of elemental spoiling to go along with the fairly badass speed/damage combo. Not that she needs it, 90% PC HP in fire damage may be enough to 2HKO Estella anyway, and Estella herself ain't 2HKOing due to lower damage than Nelis by a notable margin.
Estella (S3) vs. Grey (VP) - Yeah, what I thought. Estella 2HKOs first.
Estella (S3) vs. Swampert (Poke) - Estella doesn't 2HKO. This makes her fail.
Estella (S3) vs. Typhlosion (Poke) - Same here.
Estella (S3) vs. Poco (ATL2) - Estella against a healer with a shred of magical durability never goes well.
Estella (S3) vs. Magdalen (WA:ACF) - Yeah no.
Estella (S3) vs. Peter (SF2) - Halves fire, 2HKOs.
Estella (S3) vs. Banon (FF 6) - Pathetically, I think Estella can't 2HKO through Health. Failure.
Estella (S3) vs. Tellah (FF4) - MDef gives her that extra turn, and she 3-2s.
Estella (S3) vs. Bernadette (S5) - Puny flames can't scratch Bernadette. Not that she -needs- the spoiling to win.
Estella (S3) vs. Bazba (S3) - ... FAIL.
Estella (S3) vs. Meg (S2) - Silent Lake kills Estella dead.
Estella (S3) vs. Lucied (WA) - Lucied's damage is just too terrible and of the wrong type.
Estella (S3) vs. Reis (FFT) - Tanks.
Estella (S3) vs. Sten (BoF 2) - -Here-, the fire halving is enough, and Sten is faster to boot.
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Championships
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 10:53:49 PM »
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Kraken (FF1) - DoS Kraken.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Swampert (Poke) - The speed debuff screws Mallow up here, especially considering Swampert can 2HKO.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Typholosion (Poke) - Faster, heal-lock.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Peter (SF 2) - Peter has a chance if SF2 crits are more common than I think, but kneejerking this way.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Banon (FF 6) - ...failure.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Reis (FFT)

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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Championships
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 07:43:31 PM »
The Matches
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Barret (FF7)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Grey (VP)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Swampert (Poke)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Banon (FF 6)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Bazba (S3)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Meg (S2)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Lucied (WA)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Collete (ToS)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Corselia (S:T)   vs   Imoen (BG)
     
Camus (S2)   vs   Barret (FF7)
Camus (S2)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Camus (S2)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Camus (S2)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Camus (S2)   vs   Grey (VP)- Same speed. Camus's slight chance to evade tips it.
Camus (S2)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Camus (S2)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Camus (S2)   vs   Banon (FF 6)- Physical crit+Final flame I think?
Camus (S2)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Camus (S2)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Camus (S2)   vs   Bazba (S3)- Think so.
Camus (S2)   vs   Meg (S2)
Camus (S2)   vs   Reis (FF%)- Human Reis.
Camus (S2)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Camus (S2)   vs   Imoen (BG)
     
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Barret (FF7)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Grey (VP)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Swampert (Poke)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Typholosion (Poke)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Magdalen (WA:ACF)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Banon (FF 6)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Bazba (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Meg (S2)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Lucied (WA)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Collete (ToS)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Imoen (BG)
     
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Barret (FF7)- Outslugs after Mindblow.
Andarc (S:T)   vs  Eiko (FF9)- Status.
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Nelis (S5)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Grey (VP)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Banon (FF 6)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)- One rounds. Letting Tellah get a turn is asking for it.
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Bernadette (S5)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Bazba (S3)- Freeze+Healing, I think.
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Meg (S2)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Sten (BoF2)
Andarc (S:T)   vs   Imoen (BG)
     
Beecham (S3)   vs   Barret (FF7)- Heals just before Mindblow. Should be enough.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Nelis (S5)-  I think.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Grey (VP)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Peter (SF 2)- Kneejerk? He's faster and has some evade.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Banon (FF 6)- Health gets SLed. Boom.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)- Tellah isn't faster than much of anything.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Bernadette (S5)- Beecham's offense is notably better.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Bazba (S3)- Status.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Meg (Suikos)- Trick rune.
Beecham (S3)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)
Beecham (S3)   vs   Imoen (BG)- SL.
     
Estella (S3)   vs   Barret (FF7)- Mindblow makes Estella emo.
Estella (S3)   vs   Eiko (FF9)
Estella (S3)   vs   Kraken (FF1)
Estella (S3)   vs   Nelis (S5)- Nelis is extremely spoilable, this is why she is in Middle. A pure fire mage is however not a threat.
Estella (S3)   vs  Grey (VP)- Yeah, Grey's not threatening if you have some speed.
Estella (S3)   vs   Poco (ATL 2)
Estella (S3)   vs   Peter (SF 2)
Estella (S3)   vs   Banon (FF 6)- Avoids a OHKO.
Estella (S3)   vs   Tellah (FF 4)- OHKO.
Estella (S3)   vs   Bernadette (S5)- Walled.
Estella (S3)   vs   Bazba (S3)- Fire resist makes this his fight, I think?
Estella (S3)   vs   Meg (S2)
Estella (S3)   vs   Lucied (WA)- Pass.
Estella (S3)   vs   Reis (FF%)
Estella (S3)   vs  Sten (BoF 2)
Estella (S3)   vs   Imoen (BG)
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Championships
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 09:30:20 PM »
Camus (S2)   vs   Barret (FF7) - Yep.
Camus (S2)   vs   Eiko (FF9) - FF9 equip nonsense
Camus (S2)   vs   Kraken (FF1) - DoS Kraken
Camus (S2)   vs   Grey (VP) - Yep.
Camus (S2)   vs   Typholosion (Poke) - Yep.
Camus (S2)   vs   Poco (ATL 2) - Sure, MP busting works
Camus (S2)   vs   Peter (SF 2) -Don't think Camus manages a 3HKO here.
Camus (S2)   vs   Banon (FF 6) - Banon
Camus (S2)   vs   Tellah (FF 4) - Tellah
Camus (S2)   vs   Meg (S2) - Outslugs under SL, heal-locks otherwise
Camus (S2)   vs   Lucied (WA) - Lucied
Camus (S2)   vs   Reis (FFT) - Human Reis
Camus (S2)   vs   Sten (BoF 2)  - Sten
Camus (S2)   vs   Imoen (BG)  - splat
     
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Barret (FF7) - Limit
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Eiko (FF9) - Har
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Kraken (FF1) - DoS Kraken
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Grey (VP) - Yeah, this works
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Typholosion (Poke) - Yep.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Poco (ATL 2) - Mallow no like MP busting
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Peter (SF 2)  - Yep
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Banon (FF 6) - ...
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Tellah (FF 4) - status of some variety, I guess
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Meg (S2) - Silent Lake
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Lucied (WA) - Lucied
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Reis (FFT) - Human Reis
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sten (BoF 2) - Sten
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Imoen (BG) - Strong kneejerk
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