I will have to be brief, this is another lunch post. Who knows, perhaps things will get turned around.
As for my roleclaim: Complete roles will flip on lynch, so it's not as big a deal. I will say as my half-roleclaim that I'm not anywhere near an important enough town role to try and turn the tide based on that alone.
Bardiche: I'm suspicious of both Sir Alex and Excal. If you'd prefer to push the SirAlex train, that works for me; like I noted before, I'm fine with either one. I'll be more than happy to change my vote this evening if I'm still alive to Sir Alex if it looks like that can get some momentum.
Unfortunately, the events of last night seem to have let off more heat than light, so meh. To restate in short form the events of last night from my perspective:
* Town is on cruise control toward a Sylon lynch.
* THIS IS VERY BAD WHY ARE WE DOING THIS. Even if a Sylon lynch was merited, shouldn't we let him respond, or let some of the lurkers chime in?
* OMG SnowFire is too sure about Sylon clearly he's scum!
Like I said, I just want a good lynch on Day1. Which is now even less likely to happen! But so it goes.
For what it's worth, I apologize if anything came across as too personal last night; the extension issue... really really sucked. That kicked up way too much drama; I really wish the day had just naturally been longer. I'm not kidding when I say that I finally decided to join this game partially because I saw it had a 72 hour Day 1, and thus I could avoid the for-me frenetic and disastrous Day 1 in Simpsons Mafia. No, really, I'm not making that up. (I suppose I just prefer longer days in general.)
~In which statements of general Mafia philosophy are made~
I'd stand by these elsewhere regardless of the game and would cheerfully discuss them in an out-of-topic thread, but they seem unfortunately relevant here.
* Voting your heart vs. viable candidates: Sure, vote your heart... if you're going to be around later before the day closes so that you can switch your vote if necessary. Or if you feel you have a really strong suspicion that simply requires you to leave a vote there. Otherwise, you risk being a random pop-gun in the wilderness. Also note that scum can avoid controversy by sitting their votes on people who won't flip for a long time, or perhaps tossing a lone vote to their scumbuddy who they don't think is at risk as a way of insurance for later. (For Pokemon mafia: Note that I had hoped to be asleep when the day closed, and when I cast my vote it was 5 Sylon - 3 Xanth - 1 anyone else.)
** Side note: Has anyone played games where people can cast multiple votes / as many as they want? Bookkeeping would be more a pain, but it would presumably eliminate this issue.
* Extensions: Yes, last minute extensions are mrph, and for those I can sympathize with the burnout problem. It is unfortunate that we had 8 votes with 8 hours to spare, and only got the 9th after much sound and fury. Just... 36 hours was too short, and requiring a strict majority was probably too much.
* Simpsons Mafia / voting for mostly absent people: Obviously I can't speak for everyone who voted against Meeplelard, but El Cideon at least attacked both Meeple and Andy and more on the grounds of the vote than on Meeple's other post content. I think the differing motivations was just the Meeple train of thought.
So... for Delta, Excal, and others hitting me on the "voting your heart" issue: I'm sorry if my vote for what I felt was the only viable candidate offends you, but anti-voting others for philosophical differences is... very bad for the spirit of things (Obviously other factors are mixed in, but this part - which several of you have raised directly - I feel is unfair). Hell, some people on my train right now have said they don't entirely agree with it, but they're still voting me. I didn't anti-vote anyone for being against the extension, despite the fact that I felt the extension was pro-town and scum would likely have an incentive to be against it, because it was likely legitimate philosophical differences. Yes, go ahead and criticize me for being stupid or something for holding to that belief, but it isn't scummy.
Too much other stuff to respond to, but out of time.
