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« Reply #850 on: January 24, 2008, 04:13:14 PM »
Also:

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« Reply #851 on: January 24, 2008, 04:17:44 PM »
Whoa. In general. Basically caught up, but I have no time for a lengthy post while at work. Expect stuff when I get home!

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« Reply #852 on: January 24, 2008, 04:48:02 PM »
Great to have confirmation on that now.  That pretty much verifies my suspicions completely; with this lie exposed, I'm not sure there's any way to interpret Cor as innocent anymore.  Let us not suffer scum to live.

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« Reply #853 on: January 24, 2008, 05:04:47 PM »
##VOTE: Corwin

I had a lot of thoughts typed up and all, but all of them are pretty much turned backwards by this, so I will reexamine later.
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« Reply #854 on: January 24, 2008, 05:12:15 PM »
Well, that's interesting. First and formost, ##Vote:Corwin

And to address the points Otter and Rat raise:

My roleclaim? Man, I had ONE SHOT of a protective role, and the person I chose to protect says he was notified of a failed kill. From that, I'm lead to believe that I actually aimed that bodyguard use correctly and saved Tai. So, I claimed because a) one shot. I can't do it again, so I no longer have a power role worth protecting, and b) I figured it might be some information that Tai could make use of. How exactly? Beats me, there's stuff going on with his role that he can't talk about, so I figured that  more information, even if it's something little, might be able to help.

As for the "I was kinda expecting to die" thing, it's because of one particular line in my PM that I will paraphrase for you. And in fact, have already done so in an earlier post. And thats the "bodyguard because she's a guard, one shot because she's generally useless."

The "generally useless" bit is what had me half suspsecting I would be the kind of bodyguard who died in the place of my charge. But I wasn't sure. Since I wasn't told I was any specific kind of bodyguard, just that I was a bodyguard and only had one shot of it. I didn't really suspect that at first, but after the Supercop bit, the lots of "oh I can't claim everything for fear of modkill", and then Nitori flipping mad scientist instead of doc like he claimed(was this a lie or was he just unaware of what he really was? I'd like to know, but the only person who can tell us is dead, sadly), yeah I was doubting the completeness of my role PM.

Also, Otter, the way you're driving for "specifics" almost makes it sound like you're trying to trick me into quoting my role PM like Meep did in NR. Maybe it's just because I modded that game that I'm extra paranoid about that sort of thing, but you're giving me seriously bad vibes right now when you really weren't before.
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« Reply #855 on: January 24, 2008, 05:14:19 PM »
-1 hammer!
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« Reply #856 on: January 24, 2008, 05:28:41 PM »
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Meanwhile, you, dear? Unless your actions on yourself are invisible, you -didn't act at all-. Profoundly nothing! I was the only one to look at you and you did -nothing- to anyone else. Yes, I watched you. Saw jack. ...and survived the night anyway.

So unless the obvious happened, I'm scum? How does that work, Tai?

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« Reply #857 on: January 24, 2008, 05:33:28 PM »
Uh. That's not obvious at all, I'm afraid. In fact, I'm about 99.9% convinced it's not the case. >_> Sorry!

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« Reply #858 on: January 24, 2008, 06:02:49 PM »
I'd suspect you, but Supercop-cleared, so. I'm sorry myself. If anyone would like me to post any final thoughts, I can swing it by (RL) tomorrow, it being the weekend and all.

Man, just what I thought. Once a train passes 4-5 votes, it won't move any longer. And they keep on piling time after time, day after day, all the way from day 1 lurkervotes (!). Or you guys could just hammer me now, what could I possibly say when the only guys you (and I) trust as much as yourself to be town tells you he doesn't believe me?

If you do want to end the day as soon as you can and don't really care about me, just let me know before morning hits tomorrow, please? It'd suck to be compiling my final post only to get ninja-hammered.

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« Reply #859 on: January 24, 2008, 06:20:01 PM »
Devil's advocate again: Tai, I remember when you were the town watcher in FFT, you described the role along the lines of "I watch people and see where they go at night." If Corwin really did act on himself, then technically he didn't go anywhere. It would be very odd mechanics, and for all I know you've got a mod guarantee that it doesn't work like that at all, but...argh.
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« Reply #860 on: January 24, 2008, 06:29:48 PM »
The phrasing was different here. I was told... all actions done to and done on the person. Which leaves little room for interpretation.

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« Reply #861 on: January 24, 2008, 06:35:58 PM »
Yeah, that seems more than solid enough.
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« Reply #862 on: January 24, 2008, 07:43:41 PM »
Quote from: Corwin
And hey, go trains. Everyone's convinced, no one questions!

That's your defense?  "This train is moving too fast!  People are just BELIEVING that guy who everyone knows is 100% SuperCop-verified townie, who therefore has no reason to lie!"  No one questions?  Questions what?  If there are questions we should be asking, please let me know what these questions are.  This is just weak, and I'm honestly all for anyone who feels like hammering him sooner than later if this is the level of defense he's prepared to give for himself.  Kill known scum first, ask questions later.  He knows he's going down already, so any "final analysis" from him before dying would be engineered specifically to confuse us and make us question our assumptions ("He says x looks good, so, since everyone knows he's a lying scum, does that mean x is scum too?  Or is he using reverse psychology to manipulate us?  Or maybe he THOUGHT we'd think that oh oh oh" etc. and the whole post analysis would be pure WIFOM) and we don't need the useless headache, if you ask me.

I can't hammer, since I'm on the train already, but since the best he has to offer goes like
Quote from: Corwin
I'd suspect you, but Supercop-cleared, so. I'm sorry myself.
I'm pretty sure I -would- hammer now if I could.

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« Reply #863 on: January 24, 2008, 07:48:48 PM »
I get the feeling the only reason he isn't hammered yet is because everybody in the game who's online right now is already on the train.
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« Reply #864 on: January 24, 2008, 08:00:15 PM »
I'm not particularly sure what kind of defense you expect. Would you like me to lie and say I got roleblocked? I suppose people believe it quite easily, but that's pretty pointless. As for Tai... why would someone who wants to boost his case lie? Well, why not? What, are you going to lynch Tai for being a bit aggressive on a mistake? We all know he's town, it'll be forgiven.

And heaven knows Tai would receive his entire role correctly and unedited from the mod, why, it's unthinkable things would be left out or misstated on purpose. I mean, there is absolutely no precedent for it in any of the flips so far.

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« Reply #865 on: January 24, 2008, 09:11:52 PM »
Oh wow. The day certainly seems clear cut. Cor's defense isn't convincing me (or anyone, looks like)

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I don't see a point in delving into other matters before the flip, but if there's someone who does...well, speak up now.
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« Reply #866 on: January 24, 2008, 09:31:30 PM »
Right, then.

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Re: Touhou Mafia - Main Topic
« Reply #867 on: January 24, 2008, 09:32:25 PM »
HAMMER SHUT UP

Corwin, playing Kaguya Houraisan (Anonyvoter, SCUM-ALIGNED) has been lynched!

Start sending me night actions, please. Story in a bit.


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Re: Touhou Mafia - Main Topic
« Reply #868 on: January 24, 2008, 10:00:37 PM »
Let's Play Danmaku Detective Game! Vote Count:

Gatewalker (0): Otter
Tonfa (0): Halbarad
Corwin (8): Otter, Taishyr, Shale, Carthrat, Halbarad, Ciato, Gatewalker, Tonfa

Love Count:

Nitori (14): Everyone
Everyone (1): Taishyr
Otter (1): Corwin

---

"By the way, I don't know if I'm the only one that noticed, but when Kaguya turned back around, several cards fell out of her sleeves as well."

Yukari pointed at the ground around Kaguya, which did indeed have several cards littered around it.

"I recognize that one over there as Components of Konpaku. Any particular reason you might have it?"

"Actually, yes. It was a thirteen-star pickup I got from spending some quality time recently with Phantasy Star Online. Everyone always told me that Bluefull was useless, but I guess they were wrong. Anyway, I'm bored now. I don't suppose you could all go kill Mokou?"

"As if, bitch!" Mokou wavedashed over to Kaguya and landed a punch to the side of her face, knocking her out cold.

"Don't worry, I'll send her back home in a box once we're done. Somehow I doubt that she'd dirty her hands to this extent, though, so even with the fox captured I don't think we're done yet."

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First page will be updated momentarily. Don't forget, I need night actions.


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Re: Touhou Mafia - Main Topic
« Reply #869 on: January 25, 2008, 05:55:15 AM »
"So, Sukima, Firefly," Yuka said, "what makes you so sure you two haven't taken care of this problem?"

Yukari spoke first. "Because I know Ran like no one else. When we had our talk, she-"

"LOOK OUT!"

Yukari turned around just in time for Ran to land a vicious clawed swipe across her face that sent her reeling to the ground. Ran landed beside her, grinning wickedly but also breathing heavily. Yukari took a moment before looking up and glaring at her shikigami. Blood was already running down her face.

"How DARE you attack me! I'll make you wish you didn't live to regret it!"

"Hahahaha, bring it on, gap-for-brains! I've been wanting to do this for years!"

Enraged, Yukari threw herself at her laughing servant and tackled her to the ground. As the rest of the crowd looked on in a mix of horror and fascination, the two began punching, kicking and grappling with each other, shouting obscenities the likes of which made even Remilia cringe.

Keine ran over to the pile of seething Yakumo. "What are you two doing? There's no need for this! Calm down!"

With Yukari momentarily distracted by Keine, Ran bellowed "SHUT UP!" and kicked Keine in the stomach, knocking her through the air and slamming her up against the side of the shrine. She crumpled to the ground in a heap.

"KEINE! NO!" Mokou immediately forgot the struggle and ran over to ther friend, Aya hot on her heels. "Quick, let's get her into the Shrine! Reimu, come with us!"

"R-right!" Reimu was also able to pull herself away from the fight, and the three of them picked Keine as gently as possible and carried her into the shrine.

Yukari was able to glance over and see the party enter the shrine, and immediately opened a large portal underneath herself. She and her shikigami sank into it, clawing and cursing at each other. Mokou got back outside quickly enough to see them leave. "Where are you going? Bring that fox back here! I'm going to make her pay!"

Yukari's voice emanated from the portal. "Sorry, but there's no sense in risking anyone else's health! Be back in a bit!" The portal then closed, leaving the area as peaceful as it had been before Ran had reappeared.

Or it would have, if not for Marisa's scream.

"Oh God, Alice!"

Everyone present turned their gaze toward the two forest magicians - and saw Alice lying on the ground with one of her doll's lances shoved through her throat and stuck in the ground. She could do little more than flail, gurgle and lose blood quickly.

With Marisa frozen at the dight of her friend, it took Komachi and Yuyuko to carefully pull the lance out of the ground so Alice became movable. Komachi then unceremoniously slung Alice over her shoulder and ran into the Shrine to join Reimu and Aya.

Yuka looked back and forth between Marisa and Mokou, her expression showing an air of indifference. "I guess that answers my question."

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It is now Day 5, and:

- OblivionKnight, playing Alice Margatroid (Watcher, TOWN-ALIGNED) was killed overnight!
- Ciato, playing Keine Kamishirasawa (Vanilla Townie, TOWN-ALIGNED) was also killed overnight!

You have until 1:00 AM Eastern on Sunday to make a decision, which is a little more than 48 hours away.


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« Reply #870 on: January 25, 2008, 06:02:03 AM »
Well. That was bloody.

Let's see. Gate and Tai rank high on the townie index for the remaining people for me, offhand. Then there's...

Rat, Excal, Shale, Cid, Yakumo, Otter, Hal, Smodge. Need to review each of these cases as I don't really have a clue who to gun for at this point (though Smodge looks scummier than others as a kneejerk BUT I need to review earlier posts). Mm.
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« Reply #871 on: January 25, 2008, 06:15:29 AM »
...what. Uh. ...

Another attempt on my life was made... and prevented?

That makes... three hits? What the hell? Also, anyone else looking very suspicously at Sakuya here, out of curiousity?

*needs to sit down and think for a bit*


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« Reply #872 on: January 25, 2008, 06:16:15 AM »
....ouch. At least it's only one power role gone, but still....ugh.

I also have a gut "Smodge looks scummy" feeling, but at this point I don't want to throw serious suspicion on anyone without taking a fine-toothed comb to our confirmed scumbags' posts.

Ninja'd by Tai, and.....what. There were three kill attempts last night?
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« Reply #873 on: January 25, 2008, 06:17:25 AM »
Also, I guess this is what the "Vengeful" part of Ran meant. If we can attribute one kill to that, we have... one scum and one SK/Vig type. Scum likely killed OK. I was also roleblocked... wait, I was roleblocked and targeted for a NK? Well. That makes things... trippy.

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« Reply #874 on: January 25, 2008, 06:19:09 AM »
Your kill and the roleblock came from two different sources, then? That would fit with Ran killing from beyond the grave, if Alex had to make the call without conferring with other scum.
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