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[VySaika]

First thing's first. Hi Sakuya! ##Unvote: Andy

Re: "Tom/Smodge thing"

I'm...kinda forced to agree with Tom on this one, Otter. While Smodge's grammar/spelling/etc is something we probably shouldn't still be picking at, it doesn't seem like a comment intended to provoke a fight. Heck, QR's own statement to Smodge about his "scummy tactics!!11!" seemed more antagonistic(even though again, I seriously doubt it was meant that way), and Smodge hasn't come back swinging at Tom, so I'm not seeing how it's that much of an issue.

Re: Tom's thought on Otter

Only one thing to say here and that's that a late start has become pretty standard for Otter in recent games. That didn't stop me from voting him, as no matter what someone's habits are, you apply pressure when you feel that they're getting lurky, but once he showed up it was all fine. If it is some kind of deliberate tactic, the only thing I could guess at it being is to skip the jokephase and come in when things are getting serious(such as when a bunch of people are voting at him for not talking...).

Now, since I've got a floating vote again, and it's such a waste to leave those things unused for long on Day 1, how about.....##Vote:Strago! Been a little while since you've weighed in. How's it going?

EDIT for new posts: Good lord there's alot of these. Anyway, only 1 more thing stands out and thats:

You, on the other hand, seem to be acting like the kid who runs screaming into the classroom yelling "THERE'S A FIGHT BETWEEN SMODGE AND TOM, COME SEE!"

That line right there, Tom? That is needlessly antagonistic. Calm down dude.

[Corwin]

Is this a private argument, or can anyone join? I don't see 'scumtells' the way Tom does, which seems to be precompiled entries in some dictionary we all consult before we go "AH-HAH!" and vote. And the idea of going on gut (I don't see how logic fits in, since logic is all about spotting something out of the ordinary, which is... yes, a scumtell) makes it all come down to randomness. It may be fine for your jokevote, but as the game progresses, there should be a shift away from the random.

Now, if I believe in this as firmly as I claim, why am I not voting for Tom here? In an attempt to make him see reason, pretty much. Like before, I do get the sense that he's a misguided townie playing a bad game (yes, playing badly) and a hope that something could be done about it while we're still during the first day.

I think I would also like to second the request to remain civil. There is a difference between being aggressive and contributing to the conversation and analysis, and merely being antagonistic and unhelpful.

[EvilTom]

Eh, sorry. I shouldn't have used all caps. I wanted to be cool
No more cruise control for me..

[Ranmilia]

Maybe you need to re-evaluate your scumtells if they keep picking up town? Maybe they're not that great afterall. If there really was a definitive list of scumtells, then obviously scum would not be doing them. The idea of scumtells is stupid and allows the real scum to manipulate everything too easily. Much better to go with a combination of logic & gut feeling than some arbitrary rules of "if x does this, they are scum".

In one of the last IRC games played before everyone stopped doing them, I fingered all the scum and the third party on day 2 based on them giving off the same scumtells that we've called you and Smodge on in previous games - too curious about roles, overreacting, so forth.  Lurking is another example of a scumtell.  What makes these things good to look at is the fact that even though they are known scumtells, it's very hard for scum to avoid doing them anyhow - and very easy for town to avoid them.  Scum know lurking is scummy, but they gravitate towards doing it anyhow - look at the old post counters in FFT Mafia and WoT Mafia, the bottoms after a few days have passed are all scum, and this tends to hold true in any reasonably large game.  Look at Discworld, where roleclaim = happy scum and dead role.  These scumtells *are* based on logic and statistics, not arbitrary.  Scum can avoid doing them, yes, though it's hard.  But they can't force townies to do them, and consequently no townie should do them.  Commiting them doesn't mean you're automatically scum, but it raises the logical odds.  This very post is an example of a scumtell you're giving off - you say logic + gut, but you're also saying town should throw out all the established guides that logic in past games provide.   This is not pro-town play.  Learn your scumtells, recognize WHY they're scumtells, and avoid giving them off.

[Shale]

Maybe you need to re-evaluate your scumtells if they keep picking up town? Maybe they're not that great afterall.

They keep picking up specific town. Namely, you and Smodge. If you keep setting off everyone's scum alarms, that indicates a problem in how you play town, at least in the opening days.

But in this case...yeah, Otter's latching onto the grammar correction is pretty nitpicky. Granted, it's Day 1 and there's not much serious to talk about, but that's no reason to pretend something minor isn't.

[VySaika]

Cor, this is mafia. There is no such critter as a private argument here.

[mia~]

##Unvote: Andrew. SAKUYA-SAN SAKUYA-SAN ROOM CLEANING START.

Maybe you need to re-evaluate your scumtells if they keep picking up town? Maybe they're not that great afterall. If there really was a definitive list of scumtells, then obviously scum would not be doing them. The idea of scumtells is stupid and allows the real scum to manipulate everything too easily. Much better to go with a combination of logic & gut feeling than some arbitrary rules of "if x does this, they are scum".

If you're town, then why are you so overreactive? -_- It's like you were a shark sitting in the water then smodge entered and you went at the opportunity to want to try to prove someone is being remotely scummy. The same could be said of Otter making a big deal out of the their/they're, though personally I think the their/they're crap is just silly from both sides.

[Otter]

You, on the other hand, seem to be acting like the kid who runs screaming into the classroom yelling "THERE'S A FIGHT BETWEEN SMODGE AND TOM, COME SEE!"

Please use quotes to support this, if you're going to keep saying it happened.  Shale: I've played previously with these two, and I don't remember seeing anything like that happening before now.  And it's -not- for lack of mistakes from smodge.  I still haven't heard a reason for it.

It seems like you're resorting to those personal attacks by calling me uncivil, y'know? Trying to paint me in scum colours from the start. Perhaps you'd like to tell me where I'm being uncivil so I can also understand.

I'm not trying to "paint you in scum colours," I'm pointing out something you did which struck me as a bit scummy and I'm asking you to explain it.  There's a difference.  This isn't some wild attempt at slander, it's me asking for clarification from you with the help of a vote.  If you seriously want me to tell you again where I thought you were being uncivil, then okay, I'll tell you: it was when you corrected his grammar for no real reason after clearly playing with him before and never having made a similar correction.  It looked plainly unnecessary because the grammar thing has come up before with smodge.  As a result, it seemed to me like you were just trying to irritate smodge, and I couldn't think of a townie reason to be doing that.  Please explain what you were doing there, if I've got it wrong.

[Carthrat]

Otter: The whole incivility thing, particularly with regard to Smodge; ok, for starters, you don't need to look hard to find a oneliner post out of Cor...

Urge to slay the lack of proper capitalization and punctuation at its source, rising.

seems to be a bit more snarky than EvilTom, did you miss this or just not consider it for some reason? Secondly, for some of us, that kind of posting is really, really frustrating. I kinda support further criticism of it. However, I don't support people getting upset at you for 'spicing things up'. Someone has to do it.

Cid: I think it's very weird of you to go: "OK's style is usually to hang fairly low on day 1 and then come out with detailed analysises in future days. SO, let's vote for him!" It's like you've totally ignored what you already said in the rest of your post.

Dread Thomas: You cannot continue posting like you and smodge do and expect people to not make things out of it. What Yakumo said is wise. Stop! Listen! Reflect!

EDIT KEKEKE SIXREPLYRUSH

*everything I thought about all of these posts got ninja'd*.

Why would Otter deliberately stage a late entry, anyway? When you think about moves that scum would deliberately make, also note that they have brains, too, and they would probably not deliberately make moves that they know make them look bad. Acidentally, sure.

Scumtell is a generic term used for 'thing that looks scummy'. They include generalities more than specifics, i.e. lurking too much (but how much is too much?), wishy-washy voting, attempts to draw out particular roles, straw-man arguments, etc. etc.

Dread Thomas, you said

I hate the whole "stop acting like scum" thing, it's just an excuse for.. argh I'd better not start ranting.

But you've also said

I'm keeping my vote on Smodge, until he says/does something that isn't scummy.

. See, this is a scumtell: You're losing track of your previous position and contradicting yourself later down the line without a justification.

You are continually OMGUSing and it's painful to watch. I mean, seriously, "Looks like you're trying to paint me in scum colours from the start?" In my experience, scum just... don't work this way. There are pretty much never long-term plans to make someone look scummy and mislynches are 90% opportunity, 10% plan. That's why I think the really reactionary posts out of you are so dangerous; if you don't stop to consider that the one voting for you might be town, then all you may end up doing is casting a lot of undeserved suspicion on them and setting them up for a mislynch the following day.

[Corwin]

It never hurts to be polite while barging in!

I'm... actually going to see how Tom's explanations to Otter go. While I think everyone poking Tom over his somewhat minor nitpicking would be counter-productive, I'm not in any particular hurry to dismiss Otter's hunch out of hand. If it seems to go nowhere, well... at least it gets discussion going, and might even go so far as to clear the suspicion around Tom for the immediate future.

And seeing that the pest has posted, I don't see how an affront to my eyes and a desire to rectify the situation to my satisfaction is in any way frustrating. Unless you're always frustrated. I can understand if you are. Here, have some ##Love: Mokou while you're at it.

[Otter]

Granted, it's Day 1 and there's not much serious to talk about, but that's no reason to pretend something minor isn't.

I agree.  Note my wording: I called it a semi-serious vote for Tom.  I had just entered the game and done a quick read of the topic, and I wanted to put a vote out there since that's my basic policy on day 1, so I went after something that caught my eye.  It really wouldn't be remarkable at all if we hadn't played together before, but we have, and smodge has always had grammar issues, and I've never seen Tom behave that way.  It looked weird and very unneeded.  Day 1 votes primarily exist to draw reactions, though, and the reaction I'm getting from Tom is the main reason I'm leaving my vote where it is right now.

Tom, if you look for evidence of this "THERE'S A FIGHT BETWEEN SMODGE AND TOM, COME SEE!" behavior from me, I think you'll quickly find there isn't any.  I never did anything like that, and while I can excuse you for maybe being a little confused at first, your sticking with this story and not backing down when you're clearly mistaken is really just making it worse for you.

Rat: the Corwin comment didn't stand out to me as much because it's much more typical.  There's often comments like that made to smodge, criticizing him in general and making sure he's aware there's a problem.  That's cool with me, I prefer greater clarity too and that means he should work on improving.  This is covered ground.  There... pretty much is never one specific italicized correction out of nowhere, though, and for some reason that looked much more snippy.  Cor's intent there is pretty obvious: he wants smodge to write more clearly for everyone's sake.  I'm -still- asking Tom what he was doing with the solitary correction, and instead of answering me, he's making up things about me.  I think you can see why this reaction is causing me to stick with my vote.

[EvilTom]

Otter. You are weird.

the Corwin comment didn't stand out to me as much because it's much more typical.  There's often comments like that made to smodge, criticizing him in general and making sure he's aware there's a problem.  That's cool with me, I prefer greater clarity too and that means he should work on improving.  This is covered ground.  There... pretty much is never one specific italicized correction out of nowhere, though, and for some reason that looked much more snippy.  Cor's intent there is pretty obvious: he wants smodge to write more clearly for everyone's sake.  I'm -still- asking Tom what he was doing with the solitary correction,[/quote

But we can't get anywhere on day 1 unless we vote for people. Nobody is just going to start announcing their alignments.

And it's they're, not their.

Urge to slay the lack of proper capitalization and punctuation at its source, rising.

I honestly can't see how what I said is anywhere near as bad as Corwin's comment. Mine was an incidental comment, not even the main point of the post. It was just something I threw in at the end.
Corwin's was a post on its own. And was saying we should slay Smodge.

How on earth is mine worse...

[EvilTom]

Oh crap I killed the quotes. Sorry. I hope it's readable.

[AndrewRogue]

Alex: Yeah, to be clear here, I'm not saying I wasn't online/available through about page 6 (the deadline reduction thing), it was after that. We were still in joke votes at that point and I just wasn't seeing much anywhere to put in pressure. Went to bed after (you do know that much) and woke up with six votes on me. So, yes, I was quiet, but it was in that period of game where I have issues doing things. So... I can't really say more beyond take from it what you will and see how it goes.

I'm also going to go out on a limb here and say that folks need to not get hung up on the Tom/Smodge thing itself, and remember to look at the people around it too. If they are scum, no harm, no foul. If they aren't... then this is the perfect train for scum to sneak onto. Taking some time to look closer at it though, as I dunno how I feel about it.

Otter... is being Otter, near as I can tell. Given his history, this is a very positive thing. His scum games tend to be fairly bad lately, with high lurking and relative quietness.

[Corwin]

I give up. I still think Tom is town based on, well, previous games and his behavior there and here. But I also don't think the way he's playing is going to change over this game, judging by his latest post. And no, it is not a complaint over formatting or something equally trivial. In any case, I doubt any advice or suggestions I might offer here are actually taken to heart, rather than just sadly serving to inflame.

[QuietRain]

Well, I find a few minutes to check in and whoa, postapolooza.  Now, I was going to wait until I got home so I had time to sit down, re-read the thread and do some in depth thinking.  But I found that I didn't need all that long to actually know where I wanted to put my vote.

Post 1: Random vote.  This is joke vote phase.  EVERYONE does this.
Posts 2 & 3: Random comment.  Again, we were stuck in perpetual joke phase there forever.
Post 4: Here is the first thing on the list of reasons why you scream scum to everyone.  If you'd stop doing this, we'd stop feeling the need to argue on whether or not we should lynch you.  Here is that first 'incivility' that has been mentioned.  Saying Smodge was scum by itself was really all you needed to do here.  
Post 5: To be honest, I didn't know what he was referring to at the time he posted this and I still don't, but it's not important.  Just an idle comment, I think.
Post 6: Keeping his vote on Smodge until he does something 'not scummy'.
Post 7: Random comment.
Post 8: The infamous grammer post.  OK.  Really now people.  Can we let this matter die the death it should get?  I fail to see anything scummy in it.  (and the irony of this considering my vote is not lost on me)
Post 9: OMGUS at it's finest.  

a) It is NEVER in the best interests of town to go haring off after people when they start doubting you.  If you're town, it's almost ALWAYS guaranteed to happen to you at some point.  I mean, let's look at odds here people.  We outnumber the scum.  Eventually this will happen.  You defend your points and move on.  You don't instantly assume the person doubting you is scum and go after them with all the fercoity that you would if it were LYLO and you were town.  It's DAY 1.  No one has anything more than gut and vague 'what an odd statement to make' pieces of comment to grab onto.  You only make yourself look like a scum going 'OHNOEZ They're onto me!' which isn't the impression you want to give to other townies when you're just trying to prove the point that you're 'just one of the boys'.

b) Your comment that anyone would look suspicious if they atrget either you or Smodge is doing both you and Smodge a HUGE disservice.  And here's why: defending a random person Day 1 before any sort of allegience can be found (for all we know, Smodge is scum or you are scum) makes us wonder why you would protect them.  What might you know that we don't?  Are you scum buddies?  Are you thinking we might lynch Smodge and then you'd look good for having defended him?  Scumtells like these are what we're talking about here.  Please don't get angry at us when you do things that make you look scummy and then we start to go after you.

c) I'm not going to deny the very last line of your post here.  Otter's late entrance could be a ploy.  But it's Day 1.  there's no way to know this early.  Good thing to point out, though.  It's served him well in the last 3 games. (even though he did suicide rather spectacularly in the last one after doing it).
Post 10:

a) The scumtells AREN'T great.  That is the whole point to them.  These are things that are inherantly suspicious.  If you do them, we WILL suspect you.  I'm just saying, just because everyone does something one way and you don't, doesn't make your way right.  If you give off scumtells, we will start going after you.

b) 'Making waves' does not mean letting stuff just go and being prim & proper to all and playing nicey-nice to everyone.  It means, stop trying to get 20 people to play the game the way that only you are playing it.

Post 11:

a) Yet another example of OMGUS.

b) Saying that you're uncivil in a calm and thoughtful manner is hardly a personal attack.  And if you're going to take things like that personally, this is not the game for you.  At some point, you will be called any number of things from people grasping at straws to try to find the scum.  

Post 12: This apology was well done.
Posts 13 & 14: You do have a good point that you weren't the only one commenting on the grammar.

BUT this brings me to my vote.  The only person giving off scumtells (whether he wants to give them off or not) is Tom.  So, ##Vote Tom  While I don't know if he's town or scum, I can't always just excuse 'Well, he always acts like this'.  The one time I do that, he will be scum and we'll all regret it.

Now, I utterly suck at linking.  I can do the quotes just fine but this post is long enough without having to quote ALL of Tom's posts.  I used the Membership Profile that shows all of his posts to compose this message and if anyone needs to see what I am referring to, I will direct you there.  If anything is unclear, though, please let me know and I will clarify.  I just don't want to quote them ALL.

[Otter]

Tom!  While I have you here, would you mind offering me a quote to back up your "Otter invented a fight!" idea?  Or you could admit it never happened, that's just as good.  Lynch All Lurkers is powerful, but Lynch All Liars is an even more pressing goal.

Otter's late entrance could be a ploy.

Again, how?  I flat out wasn't here, and even if I slept for eighteen hours and missed the start of the game that way on purpose somehow, there's no way that garnering this sort of attention could be good for me no matter what my alignment is.

Can we let this matter die the death it should get?

I'd love to, but Tom hasn't offered the simple explanation that was asked, and is instead going for OMGUS mixed with flagrant lies.  At this point, my vote isn't on him because of the correction, it's on there because his response has been so catastrophically bad.

[Otter]

Also, showing up late hasn't "served me well," it's resulted in my dying several times in a row.  Time and again now, I've died because I wasn't posting enough whether town or scum, and honestly I'm not that upset about it; town or scum, lurkers deserve what they get, and I can't say I'm an exception to that.  Up until now, I've just been way too busy getting settled back into college to pay enough attention here, but I think that's changed and I won't have trouble spending enough time on the game anymore.

[QuietRain]

1-  How could it be a ploy?  As an example: Ibecause a lot of people know you're good at snagging the dangling pieces of scumtells and ripping them to shreds.  We're inclinded to give you that little bit extra give against LAL that we might not against people who participate less.  If you were scum, you could get the benefits of lurking without worrying as much about the effects of it as others might.  Plus since you've done this three games in a row, it's sort of becoming SOP (Standard Otter Procedure) and thus we get used to it.  Does that make you *gaspkillhim* scum?  I don't know.  I doubt it.  There are better ways for scum to lurk than that.  But could it be?  Yes.

As for not serving you well, A-see above and B-your suicide doesn't COUNT.  hehe.  The other times, you didn't die in the very early part of the game (Day 1 or 2).  I don't think.  I haven't read back over the other games.  My memory might be off on this one.

2 - I can't argue his response.  I just don't see anything scummy in the original comment and so now all of the backandforth feels like our sad and usual Day 1 runaround where we get little done.

[QuietRain]

And as an addendum to my last post, I do NOT think that giving Otter a free pass to lurk is anything approaching a good idea.  But I only have one vote and I have to put it where I think it will do the best good.  It's part of the reason why I put my vote on Tom.  Saying it's what someone always done is just BAD town play.

OK, now my head hurts and I’ll be heading home in just a few minutes.  Gate has an online game so neither of us will be posting until late this evening.

[Corwin]

An agreement with Andrew, by the by. Otter does seem much better this time from the way he's acting, though it would take more than the first day for me to see it as any kind of confirmation of his town vibes.

And now QR has posted. Yes, I am indeed amused over the irony of you voting for the same person Otter is, but essentially only after dismissing his main reason for doing so. All in all, the two cases are compelling, even if they clash slightly in the area QR had outlined. And yes, I understand that people can't be excused for not playing well with the rest of us.

While I don't know if he's town or scum, I can't always just excuse 'Well, he always acts like this'.  The one time I do that, he will be scum and we'll all regret it.

This is what I ultimately find the most compelling reason to vote for him. So, ##Vote: EvilTom. Barring a scummier-seeming candidate, Tom is it.

[Chisa]

Tom, I didn't see those comments from you and Corwin as tells one way or the other myself.  Just a bit of Smodge grammar frustration boiling over.  Even Otter acknowledges that it's a minor thing.  What we're looking at here is your reaction to Otter's vote.  You went OMGUS on him, then blew this little thing into a big deal.  I myself think this is one of those too-common DL townie fights, based on what I've read of you two in the previous Mafia topics, but, being so defensive does draw people's attention, including mine.

EDIT: QR's monster Tom post basically says the same thing, but with a lot more details and a vote tacked on.  I'm honestly not sure if I should use mine here or wait for more from you and from those who're absent.  It is a good idea to vote for those who show up on scum radar, after all, but once again, this just seems like a day one town fight.  I'll hold off for now, awaiting your response to the LALiars contention.

[EvilTom]

Tom!  While I have you here, would you mind offering me a quote to back up your "Otter invented a fight!" idea?

Otter, before you continue to call me a liar, I'm going to try and answer these questions of yours.

So. Where you started this whole Evil Tom/Smodge thing. It's quite simple really.
http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=329.msg4351#msg4351
I can't believe you'd try and pretend it never happened, and then call me the liar. Lynch All Liars? Perhaps we should be looking at you for claiming I'm the liar, when there's proof right here that I am indeed telling the truth.

I direct you to the fact that nobody had even mentioned the fact that I'd corrected Smodge's grammar except:
Post #1: Me
Post #2: Corwin - Who said we should slay smodge (I assumed he was joking)
Post #3: And then Smodge who apologised for making the mistake.

End of story.
After that there was 14 posts, by mostly different people. None of them mentioned the grammar thing. As far as I knew, it was a non-issue.
Then, you come out of lurkerville (with a pile of votes on your head that you need to redirect) and vote for me. You said:

Is this sort of passive-aggressive correction helpful to anyone?  I don't think so, and it's the sort of thing that creates rifts between players for no particularly good reason.

When it can clearly be seen that there was nothing of the sort. There was no rift or argument. It was a simple correction, which Smodge acknowledged. Until you went along and dredged it up.
That's fine, we should talk about things. If you think it's important, put a vote on it by all means. That's why we're here.
But then, in your next post not long after:

I'm perceiving some pretty blatant and uncalled-for incivility from Tom, and for reasons I think we've just made abundantly clear, I don't see a good town reason to act that way.

This is the source of the problem. You effectively say "He's being uncivil, and is scum". You obviously mask it and say it indirectly, but not-town = scum. You can't deny this.

After a heap of nothing, you bring up something that nobody has talked about, and when nobody continues to talk about it, you start making things up, saying I was uncivil, and that I can't be town.

Also:

but I'm not really comfortable saying "Well, since it's THEM, let's just ignore it!"  If we said "If someone gives scum tells constantly, then it doesn't mean anything, it's just them being them!"

This is a great way to make everyone focus on something. Suddenly the attention is on Smodge/Tom. We weren't actually having a fight or doing *anything*. The issue was over. Done! But then you go and throw this up? Suddenly everyone is more focused on the way you're representing it, than what actually happened (or didn't happen).

My response is:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=329.msg4392#msg4392
Effectively I say what I said here; I wasn't uncivil. There wasn't a Smodge/Tom 'thing' until you made a big deal about it. Nobody else thought it was important. Those who havn't been affected by your dramatics *still* don't think it's important.

I'd love to, but Tom hasn't offered the simple explanation that was asked, and is instead going for OMGUS mixed with flagrant lies.  At this point, my vote isn't on him because of the correction, it's on there because his response has been so catastrophically bad.

No, it wasn't. You're just doing your best to make me look bad.

OMGUS: Not quite. If you read through everything, you should be able to understand why I think Otter is suspicious.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is:
Otter created this argument out of fluff and air. I said as much. Now he's calling me a liar. I stand by everything that I've said. He made things look horrible when there was nothing there, and now not only is he denying it, he's saying that I'm lieing. My vote lies firmly on him for now. I want to see how he reacts to this evidence.

In summary: Otter, you sir are the liar.

[Yakumo]

Honestly, Tom, the more you're posting and sticking on this arguement for these extremely tenuous reasons, the worse YOU look.  There wasn't a whole lot for Otter to go on, this much is true.  He also said it was a semi-serious vote, the kind you're most likely to see on day 1 because there's no real evidence yet, it's just the thing that sticks out that you pick on.  You never did explain what Otter asked you to explain: why you saw a reason to correct Smodge's grammar now when you've ignored it for so long.  All you've done is say that yes, you corrected it, without saying WHY, and go ape on Otter for daring to place a vote on you on flimsy evidence.  I said this once, I'll say it again: even if you ARE town, which you're not doing a good job of proving here, someone that votes for you isn't necessarily scum.  Townies vote for townies sometimes, in fact probably most of the time.  They don't know who the other townies are.  Yet every time someone votes for you, you latch on and refuse to let go.  This is anti-town behavior regardless of whether you are town or scum.

[Kilgamayan]

Let's Play Danmaku Detective Game! Vote Count:

Taishyr (0): Shale
Otter (4): Strago, Yakumo, Taishyr, OblivionKnight, Halbarad, Gatewalker, EvilTom
Shale (0): Yakumo
Yakumo (0): Gatewalker
Strago (2): Nitori, patchcloud, Gatewalker
Gatewalker (0): QuietRain
AndrewRogue (0): Sir Alex, Corwin, Chisa, Gatewalker, QuietRain, patchcloud
Nitori (1): El Cideon, Yakumo
Corwin (0): Halbarad, Carthrat
Smodge13 (2): EvilTom, Carthrat, Tonfa
El Cideon (0): Chisa
EvilTom (4): Smodge13, Ran, Otter, QuietRain, Corwin
Chisa (0): Tonfa
Ciato (0): patchcloud
OblivionKnight (1): El Cideon
QuietRain (1): AndrewRogue
Tonfa (1): OblivionKnight

What's the record for number of different players to receive a vote in a single day?

Love Count:

Chen (2): Ran, Yukari
Strago (0): OblivionKnight
Everyone (1): Taishyr
Work-Interrupting Snow (1): El Cideon
Mokou (1): Kaguya


(Edit: Forgot some bolds)
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Come to think of it, has Kilga specified whether days would end without a lynch if we don't have a majority? I just checked through the initial post and didn't see anything making it specific one way or the other.

I will if I absolutely have to, but right now I'm just going to off whoever has the most votes at the deadline (which is in 23.5 hours).

I am also debating using the Phantom Vote system, which I would prefer to the No Lynch system (though only because old habits die hard <3).