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Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« on: May 25, 2009, 07:58:49 AM »
Ghaleon- i v Ryu- xi
PD- xi v Empyrea- i
Hrist- i v Psyche- viiii
Bullet- i v Giratina- v

Wyl v Angeal- ii
Roddick- i v Shaymin- iiii
Auron v Zeal- xi
Eph- i v Ultros- xiii

Slime Knight v Teddie- iiii
Viola- ii v Merric
Kres- ii v Chie- vii
Ilia v Slime- v

Jagen- i v healie- iii
Tricia- iii v Malak- v
Millie- i v Sanaki- v
Luceid- v v Vitali- iii

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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV)
Dr. Psyche (Mega Man X: Command Mission) vs Giratina (Pokémon)

Heavy

Angeal Hewley (Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII) vs Shaymin (Pokémon)
Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI)

Middle

Teddie (Persona 4) vs Viola (Eternal Sonata)
Chie Satonaka (Persona 4) vs Slime (Dragon Quest V)

Light

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Sanaki (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Luceid (Wild ARMs Series)

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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2009, 01:59:50 PM »

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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV)

Heavy

Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI)

Middle

Teddie (Persona 4) vs Viola (Eternal Sonata)- Teddie can likely rotate defensive buffs/healing/damage well enough here.

Light

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics)- It's Healie.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2009, 02:28:02 PM »
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV) - Profound Darkness.  Boss vs. Non-Boss, basically.
Dr. Psyche (Mega Man X: Command Mission) vs Giratina (Pokémon) - Dr. Psyche.

Angeal Hewley (Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII) vs Shaymin (Pokémon) - Angeal.
Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI) - Zeal.

Teddie (Persona 4) vs Viola (Eternal Sonata) - Teddie.
Chie Satonaka (Persona 4) vs Slime (Dragon Quest V) - Chie.

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics) - Malak
Sanaki (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Luceid (Wild ARMs Series) - Luceid
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2009, 02:50:56 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV): Warrior Form.  Aura is already disgusting damage, Aura HITTING WEAKNESS just makes things worse.  He can make himself less frail by later going Reverse+Force+Shadow, which would give a more durable (though slower) Warrior, and give him immunity to Megid.
Dr. Psyche (Mega Man X: Command Mission) vs Giratina (Pokémon): Kneejerk.

Heavy

Angeal Hewley (Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII) vs Shaymin (Pokémon): Ok,actually bothered to refresh myself on Angeal and realized a few things I had forgotten:

A. Thunder of Envy is a low OHKO, not a 2HKO.  Skymin just sort of dies as a result (HP and Special Defense sort of offset each other, and ToE is 2600 to 2400~ HP).  Shaymin would live, mind, due to better durability and grass typing.  Bare in mind that Thunder of Envy = Back Side exposed = Auto Crit.  Shaymin has no physicals, but Crisis Core magic can't Crit (barring DMWs, which never target back side anyway, so you can't test), while Pokemon Specials can, so its debatable if Shaymin can make use of this.
B. If you don't like Thunder of Envy, he has Unleashed Wrath, which is a solid 2HKO.  This should heal lock both forms easily enough.  He has Synthesis, but its limited in healing and ultimately falls behind.  Skymin can bank on his good speed, of course, but the lack of PP hurts hard here.  Shaymin's sort of screwed though.
C. Angeal's Magic Defense is ABSURD.  70% Reduction absurd.  Shaymin has no physicals, so uh, yeah, he's not hurting Angeal much.

So yeah, Angeal wins this pretty easily.

Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI): Ultros has damage, Zeal does not.  I'd almost think Zeal has a chance if Skygate didn't suck.

Middle

Teddie (Persona 4) vs Viola (Eternal Sonata): Can't vote.
Chie Satonaka (Persona 4) vs Slime (Dragon Quest V): Can't vote.

Light

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics): I think law of averages will eventually favor Malak.  That or Healie runs out of MP long before killing Malak.
Sanaki (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Luceid (Wild ARMs Series): I'm not sure which Lucied I vote on these days!  Anyway, WA1 Lucied just OHKOs without breaking a sweat, which Sanaki fails to do in return, and WA3 Lucied has such an obscene durability advantage Sanaki can't realistically do much.  No clue about WA2 Lucied <_<
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2009, 05:44:11 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV) - Ryu 3.
Dr. Psyche (Mega Man X: Command Mission) vs Giratina (Pokémon) - Better.

Heavy

Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI) - Ultros is actually vaguely competent against bosses. Queen Zeal ahaha no.

Middle

Chie Satonaka (Persona 4) vs Slime (Dragon Quest V) - nggggh, no, Chie's getting the hits she needs with ease even past Radiant, and can't really risk a MegaMagic.

Light

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics) - It's Healie.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2009, 05:58:06 PM »
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV) - Ryu getting a turn is always ugly.

Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI) - Zeal vs. offense.

Chie Satonaka (Persona 4) vs Slime (Dragon Quest V) - I'm forced to agree with super about Chie being Heavy now that I know exactly how much of an effect Chie's more relevant equip options have, even with the notably higher damage averages. She even dodges turn two against average accuracy with her default setup to make things more insulting.

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics) - Malak is going to champ this Futurama, isn't he.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2009, 07:57:44 PM »
Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV) - Yep

Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI) - Zeal had damage?

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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2009, 08:09:44 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV) - Simple enough.
Dr. Psyche (Mega Man X: Command Mission) vs Giratina (Pokémon) - I think?

Heavy

Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI) - Yeah.

Middle

Chie Satonaka (Persona 4) vs Slime (Dragon Quest V) - I guess.

Light

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics) - lol
Sanaki (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Luceid (Wild ARMs Series) - ...OHKO?  Luceid 1 doesn't even 2HKO average, and Sanaki is above 50% pdur easily.  Yeah no.  Luceid should 2HKO and go first, so Sanaki needs to 2HKO.  I... think that happens.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2009, 08:31:18 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV)
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2009, 12:50:12 AM »
Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI)

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics)
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 02:20:46 AM »
Quote from: Talaysen on May 25, 2009, 08:09:44 PM
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV) - Simple enough.

Heavy

Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI) - Yeah.

Light

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics) - lol
Sanaki (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Luceid (Wild ARMs Series) - ...OHKO?  Luceid 1 doesn't even 2HKO average, and Sanaki is above 50% pdur easily.  Yeah no.  Luceid should 2HKO and go first, so Sanaki needs to 2HKO.  I... think that happens.

Deleted the things I couldn't vote on. But yeah, this works.

Malak having a shot at champing anything is :psyduck:

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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 09:04:43 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV)
Dr. Psyche (Mega Man X: Command Mission) vs Giratina (Pokémon)- Thinking he can blitz Psyche, take out the Needles in rapid succession, then defeat Mad Nautilus at leisure?  I dunno, seems weird to catagorize such a huge variety of attacks as MMXCM's as "normal" but at the same time they don't seem strongly anything else.

Heavy

Angeal Hewley (Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII) vs Shaymin (Pokémon)- Kneejerk, Angeal feels like a defense-over-HP guy so Seed Flare's bonus takes a big bite out of his durability.
Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI)

Middle

Teddie (Persona 4) vs Viola (Eternal Sonata)- No vote.
Chie Satonaka (Persona 4) vs Slime (Dragon Quest V)

Light

Healie (Dragon Quest IV) vs Malak Galthana (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Sanaki (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Luceid (Wild ARMs Series)- Kneejerk.

Will close this up later this evening.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2009, 09:12:05 PM »
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Ryu
Giratina: Yeah, think most of Psyche's stuff is Normal.

Heavy

Ultros

re CK's comments on the Heavy match I can't vote on, the defense of the target has no effect on how effective pokemon defence busts are, since they effectively just multiply damage sustained. Doesn't matter whether you're hitting Blissey or Magikarp, S.Def Down has an identical relative effect.

Light

Malak
Luceid, I think. Close one. (Voting on WA3 for the record.)
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 10:33:30 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Profound Darkness (Phantasy Star IV): Rar dragon prince smash.

Heavy

Queen Zeal (Chrono Trigger) vs Ultros (Final Fantasy VI): I don't know what to think of Ultros but he likely beats Zeal regardless of how he's taken anyway!

Middle

Teddie (Persona 4) vs Viola (Eternal Sonata): She would win if it weren't for Endure. He just 3HKO's her first.

Light

Sanaki (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Luceid (Wild ARMs Series): Just guessing.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 8 Week 4
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 10:44:21 PM »
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re CK's comments on the Heavy match I can't vote on, the defense of the target has no effect on how effective pokemon defence busts are, since they effectively just multiply damage sustained. Doesn't matter whether you're hitting Blissey or Magikarp, S.Def Down has an identical relative effect.

huh.  Suppose that does fit, just unintuitive reative to other dl games.  Doesn't change my vote I think though.
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