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Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« on: January 24, 2008, 11:25:52 PM »
Athos 5, Richard 2
Galcian 4, Max 0
Red 4, Edna 2
Dehuai 3, Cress 2
Cameela 7, Jean 0
Shizel 3, Harken 2
Cloud 6, Seed 5
Arc 8, Sabin 0

Noa 6, Brad 0
Cania 4, Ulf 2
Kresnik 8, Sharmista 0
Nash 8, Hahn 0
Neimi 9, Harle 1
Sophia 4, Cador 1
Silmeria 3, Adray 2
Cid 9, Jocahim 1

Lelei 8, Augst 0
Zoah 2, Korcha 2
Ricardo 6, Lowe 1
Red Wizard 5, Sylvina 2
Anri 4, Innes 4
Dinn 6, Brey 1
Palom 5, Shir 2
Kirkis 8, Miki 1

Heavy:

158 Alfina (G3) vs 21 Ultros (FF6)
102 Nel Zelpher (SO3) vs 154 Rapp (G1)
213 Flik (Suikos) vs 43 Geshp (SF2)
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2)
212 Lilka (WA2) vs 22 Jowy Atreides (S2)
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2)
163 Jeremy Non (WA4) vs 70 Hildagarde Valentine (SH3)
14 Garan (SH2) vs 63 Groudon (PKMN)

Middle:

200 Shante (AtLC) vs 208 Rauny (OB)
25 Nergal (FE7) vs 194 Eleni (VH)
199 Rouge (Saga) vs 122 Amarant (FF9)
233 Aika (SoA) vs 28 Kornell (G3)
142 Seraphita (XG) vs 108 Levi (S5)
53 Thursday (Dis) vs 145 Lise (SD3)
109 Rutee Katrea (ToD) vs 72 Marle (CT)
69 Florina (FE7) vs 184 Ptolomea (WA2)

Light:

93 Dahna (G3) vs 166 Irvine Kinneas (FF8)
203 Gengen (S2) vs 84 Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
133 Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs 26 Karyl Sheeden (ToD)
94 Tim Rhymeless (WA2) vs 38 FuSoYa (FF4)
53 Lowen (FE7) vs 27 Tony (WA4)
128 Bolgan (S2) vs 207 Rafa Galthana (FFT)
17 Orcha (CC) vs 168 Natan (SH3)
16 Rude (FF7) vs 55 Miranda (G3)
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 11:43:45 PM »
Heavy:

81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2): Delita does not have access to fire blocking. Goodbye.

Middle:

53 Thursday (G1) vs 145 Lise (SD3): Lise without status isn't much of a slugfester. Kneejerk.

Light:

128 Bolgan (S2) vs 207 Rafa Galthana (FFT): Battle of the titans, here.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 11:46:18 PM »
Heavy:


Flik (Suikos) vs Geshp (SF2) - If nothing else, elemental resistance wards off the OHKO. Then, it's a mauling.
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Decus (SO2) - ... Flame Shield. Dear god.
Lilka Eleniak (WA2) vs Jowy Atreides (S2) - Goes first, OHKOs.
Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs Dias Flac (SO2) - Evadable pure physical damage against Arnaud? Yes, please.

Middle:

Shante (AtLC) vs Rauny (OB) - Ahahahahaha yeah, no.
Nergal (FE7) vs Eleni (VH) - Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Rouge (Saga) vs Amarant (FF9) - ID! Granted, Autolife could... eh, nah.
Rutee Katrea (ToD) vs Marle (CT) - Doesn't get OHKOed and gets her annoying little game going.
Florina (FE7) vs Ptolomea (WA2) - I think Pto has a borderline 2HKO MT attack, and his attacks ignore evade. Florina is not happy.

Light:

Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs Karyl Sheeden (ToD) - Um. This match takes YEARS.
Tim Rhymeless (WA2) vs FuSoYa (FF4) - Yeah, that doesn't work.
Lowen (FE7) vs Tony (WA4) - JAVELIN HYPE would work here if Lowen didn't get doubled, and two Javs shouldn't 2HKO Tony. However, Tony should 4HKO Lowen, methinks.
Bolgan (S2) vs Rafa Galthana (FFT) - The horror.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 12:24:42 AM »
Heavy:
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2) - Ha ha ha ha
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2) - Wow, shit draws for SO2
14 Garan (SH2) vs 63 Groudon (PKMN) Garan has a crazy high 3HKO against average, just a normal 3HKO vs Groudon.  Too bad for him he lacks the Ice/Grass spells he needs to 2HKO Groudon, because with Slash Groudon 3HKOs, and he is going first.  (Ground was considered as "magic" damage in pokemon right?  If not it's 2HKO and a rape.)

Edit: Okay, Ground attacks 2HKO then, so even if you somehow see Garan's water as dealing the 200% damage for some insane reason, he still fails to OHKO and eats a faster 2HKO.

Middle:
Soo... I voted on all 8 in week 10, and now 0.  Cool.

Light:
53 Lowen (FE7) vs 27 Tony (WA4) I Lack much Tony HP respect, thinking Jav does 2HKO.
128 Bolgan (S2) vs 207 Rafa Galthana (FFT) - Neither of these two deserve to be this far.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 12:34:19 AM »
Heavy:

158 Alfina (G3) vs 21 Ultros (FF6)
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2)
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2)
163 Jeremy Non (WA4) vs 70 Hildagarde Valentine (SH3)
14 Garan (SH2) vs 63 Groudon (PKMN)

Middle:

199 Rouge (Saga) vs 122 Amarant (FF9)
69 Florina (FE7) vs 184 Ptolomea (WA2)

Light:

93 Dahna (G3) vs 166 Irvine Kinneas (FF8)
94 Tim Rhymeless (WA2) vs 38 FuSoYa (FF4)
53 Lowen (FE7) vs 27 Tony (WA4)
17 Orcha (CC) vs 168 Natan (SH3)
16 Rude (FF7) vs 55 Miranda (G3)
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 12:50:40 AM »
Heavy:

158 Alfina (G3) vs 21 Ultros (FF6)
102 Nel Zelpher (SO3) vs 154 Rapp (G1)
213 Flik (Suikos) vs 43 Geshp (SF2)
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2)-I've been reevaluating my stance on temps and equip changing. Not sure where I fall here anymore.
212 Lilka (WA2) vs 22 Jowy Atreides (S2)
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2)
163 Jeremy Non (WA4) vs 70 Hildagarde Valentine (SH3)
14 Garan (SH2) vs 63 Groudon (PKMN)-Ground is physical damage in Gen3 and earlier, and EQ is still physical in gen 4. Groudon splatters.

Middle:

200 Shante (AtLC) vs 208 Rauny (OB)
25 Nergal (FE7) vs 194 Eleni (VH)
199 Rouge (Saga) vs 122 Amarant (FF9)
233 Aika (SoA) vs 28 Kornell (G3)
142 Seraphita (XG) vs 108 Levi (S5)-I think?
53 Thursday (G1) vs 145 Lise (SD3)-Is this supposed to be Thursday from Disgaea? Or is there a Thursday in G1 that I haven't heard about before?
109 Rutee Katrea (ToD) vs 72 Marle (CT)-More resources, I want to say. Not too sure though.
69 Florina (FE7) vs 184 Ptolomea (WA2)-Has ITE, I think. And unlike Gaff, that's enough to get him a win.

Light:

93 Dahna (G3) vs 166 Irvine Kinneas (FF8)
203 Gengen (S2) vs 84 Frank Goldfinger (SH3)-...
133 Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs 26 Karyl Sheeden (ToD)
94 Tim Rhymeless (WA2) vs 38 FuSoYa (FF4)-gogogo FF4 status. -_-
53 Lowen (FE7) vs 27 Tony (WA4)-Not winning this with javelin damage. Also not winning without counters, so he's kinda damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
128 Bolgan (S2) vs 207 Rafa Galthana (FFT)-...
17 Orcha (CC) vs 168 Natan (SH3)
16 Rude (FF7) vs 55 Miranda (G3)
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 05:05:21 AM »
Heavy:

158 Alfina (G3) vs 21 Ultros (FF6)- Ultros. Don't think Paralyze lasts long enough, assuming he doens't just OHKO her
102 Nel Zelpher (SO3) vs 154 Rapp (G1)- Nel. Rapp against ID immunity
213 Flik (Suikos) vs 43 Geshp (SF2)- Geshp
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2)- Delita
212 Lilka (WA2) vs 22 Jowy Atreides (S2)- Lilka. Jowy might have a chance, but Dual Cast/Quick/Reflect/Infinite Healing makes me gut Lilka
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2)- Arnaud
163 Jeremy Non (WA4) vs 70 Hildagarde Valentine (SH3)- I'll have to look at Jeremy
14 Garan (SH2) vs 63 Groudon (PKMN)- Garan. See MP Busting hitting Pokemon charges since it kills all special moves in game.

Middle:

200 Shante (AtLC) vs 208 Rauny (OB)- Shante
25 Nergal (FE7) vs 194 Eleni (VH)- Nergal?
199 Rouge (Saga) vs 122 Amarant (FF9)- Amarant. Think auto-Life works because Rouge is a damn slug.
233 Aika (SoA) vs 28 Kornell (G3)- Kornell. Unlike the "Funny" boss of SoA, Kornell immunes Confuse!
142 Seraphita (XG) vs 108 Levi (S5)- Seraphita
53 Thursday (G1) vs 145 Lise (SD3)- Too bland to think on.
109 Rutee Katrea (ToD) vs 72 Marle (CT)- Marle
69 Florina (FE7) vs 184 Ptolomea (WA2)- Ptolomea. ITE makes him take this to me. 80% Counters also help.

Light:

93 Dahna (G3) vs 166 Irvine Kinneas (FF8)- Dahna. Dancing Cards works as anti-Limit, I think
203 Gengen (S2) vs 84 Frank Goldfinger (SH3)- Frank
133 Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs 26 Karyl Sheeden (ToD)- Karyl. Statuses her out.
94 Tim Rhymeless (WA2) vs 38 FuSoYa (FF4)- FuSoYa
53 Lowen (FE7) vs 27 Tony (WA4)- Tony
128 Bolgan (S2) vs 207 Rafa Galthana (FFT)- Rafa
17 Orcha (CC) vs 168 Natan (SH3)- Orcha. Had a shot of healing at least.
16 Rude (FF7) vs 55 Miranda (G3)- No vote on Rude!
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 05:51:24 AM »
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See MP Busting hitting Pokemon charges since it kills all special moves in game.

So how do you decide which moves correspond to SH special moves and which to SH physical attacks? At the very least I'd imagine Normal physicals would not be vulnerable to Mind Assault, and IIRC Groudon's got a decent one... Slash I think? It's a damage cut, but Garan's giving up a turn too, and Groudon still gets a free hit in at the battle's start.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 05:53:31 AM »
Disgaea Thursday, Gate. Fixing now.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 09:00:16 AM »
Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on January 25, 2008, 05:51:24 AM
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See MP Busting hitting Pokemon charges since it kills all special moves in game.

So how do you decide which moves correspond to SH special moves and which to SH physical attacks? At the very least I'd imagine Normal physicals would not be vulnerable to Mind Assault, and IIRC Groudon's got a decent one... Slash I think? It's a damage cut, but Garan's giving up a turn too, and Groudon still gets a free hit in at the battle's start.

For what it's worth, Earthquake + Slash also kills Garan.  Unless you see one MP bust wiping out ALL of Groudon's moves, then I suppose Earthquake + 2x Struggle wouldn't kill?
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 09:48:41 AM »
Heavy:

158 Alfina (G3) vs 21 Ultros (FF6): Status immune, no scaling up forms, etc
102 Nel Zelpher (SO3) vs 154 Rapp (G1)
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2): Not allowing flame shield makes Delita D:
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2)
163 Jeremy Non (WA4) vs 70 Hildagarde Valentine (SH3): Don't see WA4 bosses quite frail enough to get OHKOed by a non-Johnny, non-Shania SH3 character.
14 Garan (SH2) vs 63 Groudon (PKMN): Hail crash doesn't get droughted, I think. It 2HKOs, EQ doesn't.

Middle:

200 Shante (AtLC) vs 208 Rauny (OB)
199 Rouge (Saga) vs 122 Amarant (FF9)
233 Aika (SoA) vs 28 Kornell (G3)
142 Seraphita (XG) vs 108 Levi (S5)

Light:

93 Dahna (G3) vs 166 Irvine Kinneas (FF8)
203 Gengen (S2) vs 84 Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
53 Lowen (FE7) vs 27 Tony (WA4)
128 Bolgan (S2) vs 207 Rafa Galthana (FFT)
17 Orcha (CC) vs 168 Natan (SH3)
16 Rude (FF7) vs 55 Miranda (G3)
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008, 03:38:41 PM »
Heavy:

158 Alfina (G3) vs 21 Ultros (FF6)-Ha...ha... no.
213 Flik (Suikos) vs 43 Geshp (SF2)
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2)- Boom.
212 Lilka (WA2) vs 22 Jowy Atreides (S2)- Ew. No.
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2)- But but Full Moon Slash?!
163 Jeremy Non (WA4) vs 70 Hildagarde Valentine (SH3)- Um.

Middle:

200 Shante (AtLC) vs 208 Rauny (OB)
25 Nergal (FE7) vs 194 Eleni (VH)
199 Rouge (Saga) vs 122 Amarant (FF9)- ID against FF9.
233 Aika (SoA) vs 28 Kornell (G3)- Takes far, far longer than it should... unless... can Kornell be poisoned?
142 Seraphita (XG) vs 108 Levi (S5)
53 Thursday (Dis) vs 145 Lise (SD3)- Think Thursday's MDef sinks him here.
109 Rutee Katrea (ToD) vs 72 Marle (CT)- Haste/heal/status. Typical Marle win.
69 Florina (FE7) vs 184 Ptolomea (WA2)

Light:

93 Dahna (G3) vs 166 Irvine Kinneas (FF8)
203 Gengen (S2) vs 84 Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
133 Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs 26 Karyl Sheeden (ToD)
94 Tim Rhymeless (WA2) vs 38 FuSoYa (FF4)- Tim deserves FF4 status.
53 Lowen (FE7) vs 27 Tony (WA4)
128 Bolgan (S2) vs 207 Rafa Galthana (FFT)
17 Orcha (CC) vs 168 Natan (SH3)
16 Rude (FF7) vs 55 Miranda (G3)
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2008, 04:31:03 PM »
Heavy:

213 Flik (Suikos) vs 43 Geshp (SF2) - Boom.
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2) - Temps and equip changing... he'd have to take his Ch. 1 form for me to allow him it, which I can't see winning here anyway unless Decus was -all- Fire.
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2) - Evade.
163 Jeremy Non (WA4) vs 70 Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) - Curvy form wins without problem to me.
14 Garan (SH2) vs 63 Groudon (PKMN) - With my Boss HP respect, this is almost close! But... no, Groudon's better.


Middle:

199 Rouge (Saga) vs 122 Amarant (FF9) - Autolife kneejerk. EDIT: Nevermind.
53 Thursday (Dis) vs 145 Lise (SD3)

Light:

94 Tim Rhymeless (WA2) vs 38 FuSoYa (FF4) - Status.
53 Lowen (FE7) vs 27 Tony (WA4) - Bang.
17 Orcha (CC) vs 168 Natan (SH3)
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2008, 04:41:40 PM »
Autolife gets hit by Pyschic prison, so no go there.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2008, 05:42:20 PM »
Amarant: Auto Life (whatever it was called)
Rouge: Psychic Prison
Amarant: Throw something
Rouge: Implosion (Amarant revives)
Amarant: Throw something. Rouge is a frail punk and dies.

Edit: And this is why Psychic Prison hype fails. But Rouge can still win just by locking Armarant into auto-life with a free move. Moral of the story: Kill Super.

Heavy:

158 Alfina (G3) vs 21 Ultros (FF6): OHKO.
102 Nel Zelpher (SO3) vs 154 Rapp (G1): Anti-Incapacitation amulet.
213 Flik (Suikos) vs 43 Geshp (SF2): Geshp kills first, I think.
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2): Respect Delita's Mdef, but he can't block fire without hacking.
212 Lilka (WA2) vs 22 Jowy Atreides (S2): OHKO probably works. *$&*# you, Jowy.
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2): HEY LOOK ITS AN EVADABLE PHYSICAL FIGHTER V ARNAUD.
163 Jeremy Non (WA4) vs 70 Hildagarde Valentine (SH3): Form 2.

Middle:

200 Shante (AtLC) vs 208 Rauny (OB)
199 Rouge (Saga) vs 122 Amarant (FF9): See above.
233 Aika (SoA) vs 28 Kornell (G3): Aika v good boss.
142 Seraphita (XG) vs 108 Levi (S5): MP bust works?
53 Thursday (Dis) vs 145 Lise (SD3)
109 Rutee Katrea (ToD) vs 72 Marle (CT): Thanks god for the Vigil Hat.

Light:

93 Dahna (G3) vs 166 Irvine Kinneas (FF8)
203 Gengen (S2) vs 84 Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
133 Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs 26 Karyl Sheeden (ToD)
94 Tim Rhymeless (WA2) vs 38 FuSoYa (FF4)
128 Bolgan (S2) vs 207 Rafa Galthana (FFT): ...
17 Orcha (CC) vs 168 Natan (SH3)
16 Rude (FF7) vs 55 Miranda (G3)
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2008, 05:53:13 PM »
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Rouge: Implosion (Amarant revives)

Bzzt. It blocks one spell on the target when cast- Amarant's spell effect is blocked and he promptly dies.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2008, 06:53:03 PM »
Er? Auto-Life adds a status effect when it is cast. Throwing a magic blocker after that status already exists is useless.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2008, 08:39:48 PM »
Wasn't Flair like Steiner's swordskills rather than Magic, anyway (read: not silenceable)? IIRC PP doesn't stop Saga Frontier weapon techs and the likes. Though I want no part of Amarant hype, otherwise. <_<

Heavy:

158 Alfina (G3) vs 21 Ultros (FF6): Too damaging. Probably just OHKOs.
102 Nel Zelpher (SO3) vs 154 Rapp (G1): Rapp without ID in Heavy.
213 Flik (Suikos) vs 43 Geshp (SF2): Isn't OHKOed, smashes.
81 Delita Hyral (FFT) vs 41 Decus (SO2): Leaning towards the no equip changing interp these days.
212 Lilka (WA2) vs 22 Jowy Atreides (S2): OHKOs pretty easily, he does it to average and Lilka is frail.
52 Arnaud G. Vasquez (WA4) vs 155 Dias Flac (SO2): Ouch.
163 Jeremy Non (WA4) vs 70 Hildagarde Valentine (SH3): One-rounds. SH durability spread is not impressive.
14 Garan (SH2) vs 63 Groudon (PKMN): Possibly just plain OHKOs. <.<

Middle:

25 Nergal (FE7) vs 194 Eleni (VH): Dunno.
142 Seraphita (XG) vs 108 Levi (S5): Apparently faster, so MP bust and laugh.
53 Thursday (Dis) vs 145 Lise (SD3): Stat ups taxing Thursday's resources some, maybe? I dunno.
69 Florina (FE7) vs 184 Ptolomea (WA2): Finally, a Middle match I'm (reasonably) confident in.

Light:

93 Dahna (G3) vs 166 Irvine Kinneas (FF8): ..... Dancing Cards critical or something.
203 Gengen (S2) vs 84 Frank Goldfinger (SH3): Better.
94 Tim Rhymeless (WA2) vs 38 FuSoYa (FF4): Yeah, Tim lacks decisive moves on turn 1, if he even goes first.
53 Lowen (FE7) vs 27 Tony (WA4): Doubles hurt. And yeah, Lowen's too weak to scare Tony with ranged counters.
128 Bolgan (S2) vs 207 Rafa Galthana (FFT): Ick.
17 Orcha (CC) vs 168 Natan (SH3)
16 Rude (FF7) vs 55 Miranda (G3): So many scrubs who somehow made it to round 2.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2008, 08:41:04 PM »
How much HP does Autolife bring him back with? Full? Half? Down in critical range?
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2008, 08:53:56 PM »
Something very low, enough that most FF9 enemies OHKO you after it takes effect. I forget exactly what that figure was, though, presumably either 1 HP or 1/8 max or something like that.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2008, 09:37:00 PM »
Then instead of Pyro's:

Amarant: Auto Life (whatever it was called)
Rouge: Psychic Prison
Amarant: Throw something
Rouge: Implosion (Amarant revives)
Amarant: Throw something. Rouge is a frail punk and dies.

wouldn't it just go:

Amarant: Auto Life
Rouge: Implosion (Amarant Revives)
Amarant: Auto Life
Rouge: Energy Chain (Amarant Revives again)
Amarant: Auto Life
Rouge: Energy Chain (Amarant Revives again)

etc, etc, until Amarant just runs out of MP? He can't OHKO Rouge, and Rouge only needs the ID to kick in on Implosion the first time.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2008, 10:17:11 PM »
Yeah, the Auto-Life argument only goes anywhere if it can be used to build towards a limit of some sort... and Amarant's trance is DL-useless. Unless I'm missing something.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2008, 11:01:47 PM »
Part of it is that Rouge is excruciatingly slow, too.

Though this doesn't really matter because auto-life brought your CT to 0? Hmm. It'd help if I knew elements/costs associated with everything here, but sure. 0 CT means Amarant never doubles and Rouge kills him that way.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2008, 12:32:51 AM »
It also assumes that 85% ID hits every single time. I might see it hitting the first 6 times, but around turn 7, it's going to get a miss in. Above 67% just means it hits turn 1 to me, not it hits every turn.

On Garan, I could see Slash not getting hit by the Buster...which wouldn't matter too much since I also see Garan around 2 PC HP (and lean more towards seeing his Hail move as Ice, at least partially).

I think Seraphita is above average speed (10 or 11)...but I lost my element notes and accidentally broke my XG disk 2! Note that I could be thinking of a different element.
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Re: Full Ranking Tournament: Round 2, Week 11
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2008, 01:20:02 AM »
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It also assumes that 85% ID hits every single time. I might see it hitting the first 6 times, but around turn 7, it's going to get a miss in. Above 67% just means it hits turn 1 to me, not it hits every turn.

Uh, I already said that it only needs to hit the first time, Dhyer. After that, Rouge just re-kills him with damage as auto life brings Amarant back at crap for HP.
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