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Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« on: June 06, 2009, 05:09:05 PM »

In:

Chie: 40-12 77%
Rauny: 30-16 65%

Out:

Snorlax: 23-49 32%

Alexia- WA:XF's beloved princess. Not as strong as Raquel.
Yulie- Can she upgrade like her brother?
Nightburn- WA5 character. I know nothing, other than he can't be as obnoxious as Volsung!

Alexia (XF)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Alexia (XF) vs  Kato (SH2)
Alexia (XF) vs Legretta (TotA)
Alexia (XF) vs  Renee (MK)
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX)
Alexia (XF) vs Agrias (FFT)
Alexia (XF) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Alexia (XF) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Alexia (XF) vs Cador (Brig)
Alexia (XF) vs Shiego (SO2)
Alexia (XF) vs  Cania (WA2)
Alexia (XF) vs Leah (CC)

Yulie (WA4)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Kato (SH2)
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Renee (MK)
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX)
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT)
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Yulie (WA4) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig)
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Cania (WA2)
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC)

Nightburn (WA5)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Kato (SH2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Legretta (TotA)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Renee (MK)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Wakka (FFX)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Agrias (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Cador (Brig)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Shiego (SO2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Cania (WA2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Leah (CC)
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 05:51:24 PM »
Alexia (XF)  vsBeowulf (FFT)- Alexia can't 2HKO through Drain, and she needs it.
Alexia (XF) vs  Kato (SH2)- Alexia needs a 2HKO here, and won't get it.
Alexia (XF) vs Legretta (TotA)- Too much offense.
Alexia (XF) vs  Renee (MK)- Alexia needs that 2HKO again.
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX)- Drain keeps him afloat for long enough.
Alexia (XF) vs Agrias (FFT)- Outslugs.
Alexia (XF) vs Grand Master (FF1)- 2HKO.
Alexia (XF) vs Midboss (Disgaea)- Coinflip. Alexia needs that 2HKO and just misses it, I think.
Alexia (XF) vs Cador (Brig)- Shouldn't get 2HKOed, Cador is fairly durable.
Alexia (XF) vs Shiego (SO2)- Outslugs.
Alexia (XF) vs  Cania (WA2)
Alexia (XF) vs Leah (CC)- Outtanks.


Yulie (WA4)  vs Beowulf (FFT)- Think so?
Yulie (WA4) vs  Kato (SH2)
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA)- She can't avoid an MA.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Renee (MK)- Kneejerk.
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX)- Triple foul works for me.
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT)- I don't think Yulie can avoid being statused out here- she's having to heal too often.
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1)- Haste/heal/win.
Yulie (WA4) vs Midboss (Disgaea)- See above.
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig)
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2)- Think the status hits.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Cania (WA2)
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC)- Don't know.

Yulie: 6-5
Alexia: 3-9
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 10:23:51 PM »
Alexia (XF)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Alexia (XF) vs  Kato (SH2)
Alexia (XF) vs Legretta (TotA)
Alexia (XF) vs  Renee (MK)- Think Alexia barely misses the 3HKO that she needs.
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX)
Alexia (XF) vs Agrias (FFT)- Lots of Accuracy.
Alexia (XF) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Alexia (XF) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Alexia (XF) vs Cador (Brig)
Alexia (XF) vs Shiego (SO2)
Alexia (XF) vs  Cania (WA2)
Alexia (XF) vs Leah (CC)- Ooh, think Earth resist actually wins her this....maybe

Yulie (WA4)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Kato (SH2)
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Renee (MK)- Summon+Full Power Blade
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX)- Gut says Yulie thanks to laughing at status so much, but not 100% on that.
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT)
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1)- Barely OHKOs, slightly faster I think.
Yulie (WA4) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig)
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Cania (WA2)- Yulie versus pure magic.
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC)- Leah misses the first turn OHKO by a little.

Nightburn (WA5)  vs Beowulf (FFT)- Looks like he barely gets a 3-2, which seals it. If he didn't, think Beowulf would take it to me.
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Kato (SH2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Legretta (TotA)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Renee (MK)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Wakka (FFX)- Crush
Nightburn (WA5) vs Agrias (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Grand Master (FF1)- 2HKOed
Nightburn (WA5) vs Midboss (Disgaea)- Hmm, unsure exactly where I see both of their HP totals overall.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Cador (Brig)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Shiego (SO2)- Similar damage and speed (After Shigeo's defense and throwing out Graviton). Shiego has more HP to me though.
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Cania (WA2)- Double the durability with similar damage
Nightburn (WA5) vs Leah (CC)- Halve Earth ensures he isn't 2HKOed.

Alexia 7-5 (2-4, 5-1) (Hates healers, which this field was greatly lacking).
Yulie 6-6 (2-4, 4-2)
Nightburn- 4-8 (3-3, 1-5) (I'm probably underrating his durability though, but he just crumpled up in a second in game to me).
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 10:55:49 PM »
Yulie (WA4)  vs Beowulf (FFT): MDef makes status turn 2, Protect knocks it to practically never, then Quicken.
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA)
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX)
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT)
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1): Quicken should give her a turn before Master finishes her?

Nightburn (WA5)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Legretta (TotA): Searing Sorrow hits a weakness, and Legretta doesn't need it.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Wakka (FFX)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Agrias (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Grand Master (FF1): EDIT: You know what, GM isn't good enough against physicals.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 07:13:22 AM »
Alexia (XF)  vs Beowulf (FFT) - Alexia really cannot afford to lose that first strike to cast Status Lock. The REALLY sad part about this match is that Beowulf can try slugfesting with Ice Brand/Crystal Mail/108 Gems and he can come close to winning. 
Alexia (XF) vs Legretta (TotA) - The good news is, she resists Searing Sorrow and Inlay Nocturne. The bad news is, Legretta has monstrous defense and she's not killing before Legretta does.
Alexia (XF) vs  Renee (MK) - Well this one is closer than the last
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX) - I'm almost tempted to say Evade and Counter catches Revolver Sweep. But even if it doesn't, Wakka has Osmose. And draining the MP away WILL force Evade and Counter to come into play. It also doesn't help that Alexia has to use that First Strike here to cast Status Lock as well.
Alexia (XF) vs Agrias (FFT)- Yay, finally! A win. Outslugs
Alexia (XF) vs Leah (CC) - Thinking the 20% Earth Resist is enough. Not much respect for CC PCs whose names are not Serge/Karsh/Glenn/Harle

Yulie (WA4)  vs Beowulf (FFT) - Ice Brand/Black Robe is a funny alternative, but still doesn't OHKO
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA) – Even if you disrespect Searing Sorrow, I think its more than enough here >_>. MAYBE if Yulie had Resist Fire instead.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Renee (MK) – Think she may need the mana summon to OHKO. Not sure how I view that.
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX) – Assuming Yulie can’t get 2 blockers anyway. Sleep/Silence. Either one guts her. That’s assuming of course that Wakka isn’t using his Stonetouch weapon. Even if she gets her game up, I think Wakka can STILL win since Tactician Overdrive’s 48% charge means Attack Reels could be coming and that’s just overkill here.
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT) – Uh…hmm. On one hand, Yulie can set her game up without much of a problem since Agrias can’t OHKO. On the other hand, the lack of damage on Yulie’s part is SO bad, that even with her game up, either Lightning Stab’s silence will kick in or Crush Punch comes in to ID her. Waiting for further input, although thinking Agrias takes it.
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC) – Going by what Dhyer says here, sure.

Nightburn (WA5) vs Beowulf (FFT) – Nightburn is kind of happy that Beo is sluggish
Nightburn (WA5) vs Legretta (TotA) – Whee, mismatch!
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Renee (MK) – Lesser mismatch!
Nightburn (WA5) vs Wakka (FFX) – Failure. Nightburn being vulnerable to POIZN makes this fight a lot closer than it should be.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Agrias (FFT) – Overwhelms I think
Nightburn (WA5) vs Leah (CC) – Halves Earth
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 10:20:02 PM »
Alexia (XF)  vs Beowulf (FFT): Walls his status, takes him from there.
Alexia (XF) vs  Kato (SH2): As it turns out he doesn't have ID. Huh.
Alexia (XF) vs Legretta (TotA)
Alexia (XF) vs  Renee (MK): Too much slugging.
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX): Not much love for Drain in the face of that powerful area effect 2HKO while she's immune to his gimmicks.
Alexia (XF) vs Agrias (FFT)
Alexia (XF) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Alexia (XF) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Alexia (XF) vs Cador (Brig): Though he might 2HKO with Curse? Meh.
Alexia (XF) vs Shiego (SO2)
Alexia (XF) vs  Cania (WA2): Outslugs easily,  I think.
Alexia (XF) vs Leah (CC): Hmm. Leah probably can 2HKO without being 2HKO'd?

Yulie (WA4)  vs Beowulf (FFT): Yeah good luck landing anything ever.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Kato (SH2): Too many types of status.
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA): Yulie doesn't chip around a boss MA.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Renee (MK)
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX)
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT)
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1): Goes first and OHKOs.
Yulie (WA4) vs Midboss (Disgaea): She can tank a single attack?
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig)
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Cania (WA2): Not sure here.
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC): Goes first and OHKOs?

Need to look up Nightburn again.

Nightburn (WA5)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Kato (SH2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Legretta (TotA)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Renee (MK)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Wakka (FFX)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Agrias (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Cador (Brig)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Shiego (SO2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Cania (WA2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Leah (CC)
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2009, 10:23:53 PM »
Quote from: Tide on June 07, 2009, 07:13:22 AM
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX) - I'm almost tempted to say Evade and Counter catches Revolver Sweep. But even if it doesn't, Wakka has Osmose. And draining the MP away WILL force Evade and Counter to come into play. It also doesn't help that Alexia has to use that First Strike here to cast Status Lock as well.

FFX enemies don't actually use MP for anything, so Wakka's Osmose only effectively restores his own MP in game and doesn't limit any enemy tech use.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2009, 12:17:43 AM »
Alexia (XF)  vs Beowulf (FFT): I was all ready to mock Beowulf winning this with DRAIN, but then Tide reminded me of the Ice Brand. That gives him 2HKO damage here, yay elemental weaknesses!
Alexia (XF) vs Kato (SH2): Kato just 2HKOs with one of the appropriate elemental Howls. Saves me the trouble of deciding if Alexia 2HKOs back.
Alexia (XF) vs Legretta (TotA): Should be able to slug this one.
Alexia (XF) vs Renee (MK): See above.
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX): Osmose.
Alexia (XF) vs Agrias (FFT): 2HKOs first.
Alexia (XF) vs Grand Master (FF1): As above. You wouldn't think Grand Master would have below average pdur, would you?
Alexia (XF) vs Midboss (Disgaea): How is there any doubt she 2HKOs here...
Alexia (XF) vs Cador (Brig): More 2HKOin', though at least this one is close.
Alexia (XF) vs Shiego (SO2): Shigeo damage!
Alexia (XF) vs Cania (WA2): Status Lock + not winning fast enough afterwards.
Alexia (XF) vs Leah (CC): Earth res + Leah not being fast enough to get that doubleturn before Alexia's third turn. So a rare 3HKO win for her. Unless I'm overestimating Leah's HP!

Yulie (WA4) vs Beowulf (FFT): Gut says we see a repeat of the Kresnik match here.
Yulie (WA4) vs Kato (SH2): Paralysis.
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA): Sacrifice should just dodge a MA, I think. Too much of Legretta's durability comes from defence, her raw HP shouldn't reach 2PC I'd think... and Sacrifice does the needed damage. Granted, the numbers may not turn up the way Yulie wants in practice, but I'm inclined to give her the call she needs here.
Yulie (WA4) vs Renee (MK): Breaks.
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX): Silence or sleep.
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT): Yeah, Agrias puts Yulie on the needed defensive.
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1): Wow. Yulie... barely avoids a OHKO. Does GM at some point get the damage variance he needs to win? Eh... probably not, Protect comes along quick enough.
Yulie (WA4) vs Midboss (Disgaea): Midboss versus healer! Again, close to a OHKO, again, not making it.
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig)
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Cania (WA2): Sure, I guess Caina's status is magical enough for me to vote for Yulie.
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC): MOAR Earth res.

Nightburn (WA5) vs Beowulf (FFT): Certainly a good enough boss for this.
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Kato (SH2): Fire howl should take Nightburn out in two hits, and he just avoids a fatal 3-2. Very close, though!
Nightburn (WA5) vs Legretta (TotA): Searing Sorrow lights his afro on fire! Wait, wrong WA boss.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Renee (MK): Thinking he gets rocked by the Mana's spammable fire cards.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Wakka (FFX): Wakka can counter, but I still don't think it's enough. Graviton avoids some, to boot.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Agrias (FFT): 3-2 makes this one ugly.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Grand Master (FF1): 2HKOs first. Don't think I see Nightburn 2HKOing average, but he comes very, very close, and GM is noticeably below.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Midboss (Disgaea): Really about as close to a coinflip as one could get, for me. I've been considering adopting a view that takes into account the whole battle, and that wouldn't do Midboss of the "barely has any support + faces 10 PCs" any good, so yeah.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Cador (Brig): I imagine Cador has the oomph needed to 2HKO here? Not certain.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Shiego (SO2): I think.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Cania (WA2): A lot more durability.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Leah (CC): Earth res wins again!

Yulie 8-4
Nightburn 7-5
Alexia 6-6

Not really an amazing set of opposition though.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2009, 05:31:17 PM »
Yulie (WA4)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Yulie (WA4) vs Kato (SH2)
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA)
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX)
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT)
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Yulie (WA4) vs Midboss (Disgaea) - Yulie gets a win. Shocking considering how horribly this field mauls her.
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig)[/b]
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Cania (WA2)

Nightburn (WA5)  vs Beowulf (FFT) I'm just observing that this field is withering.
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Kato (SH2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Legretta (TotA)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Wakka (FFX)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Agrias (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Cador (Brig)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Shiego (SO2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Cania (WA2)
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2009, 11:20:36 PM »
Yulie (WA4)  vs Beowulf (FFT) - Yulie goes "lol status magic" and reams.
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA) - Man, if NEB is thinking Legretta loses here, what shot does she have to me given I see her raw HP as 1.1x PC? Yeah no.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Renee (MK) - Booms.
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX) - Yulie needs to block both Sleep and Silence here or she dies a horrible death. She may not be very well off even if you see her doing that, since she only deals damage with Sacrifice and Wakka -will- kill her the minute he reaches overdrive (which he only needs three turns to do with Blind spamming ANYWAY). Yeah no.
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT) - Sure.
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1) - I feel inclined to give Yulie the benefit of doubt here.
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig) - Not much to say.
Yulie (WA4) vs Shigeo (SO2) - Shigeo against the stone-immune? Let alone a stone-immune HEALER? lol is the only option.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Caina (WA2) - Yeah.
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC) - Earth torment~
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2009, 07:11:37 PM »
Updating this friday. Get your votes in now.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2009, 08:00:37 PM »
Alexia (XF)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Alexia (XF) vs  Kato (SH2)- Right!  Elemental weaknesses bite her in the ass.
Alexia (XF) vs Legretta (TotA)
Alexia (XF) vs  Renee (MK)
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX)
Alexia (XF) vs Agrias (FFT)
Alexia (XF) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Alexia (XF) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Alexia (XF) vs Cador (Brig)
Alexia (XF) vs Shiego (SO2)
Alexia (XF) vs  Cania (WA2)- Kneejerk?  I sorta remember all the Cocytus folks as having solid speed and enough durability
Alexia (XF) vs Leah (CC)

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Yulie (WA4) vs Beowulf (FFT)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Kato (SH2)- Memory of stat topic is that Howl status doesn't miss?
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA)- Yulie, chipping.  It is awesome.  Alternatively abnormal TotA respect.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Renee (MK)
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX)
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT)- Well, if Elfboy (ie the high end of Yulie respect) thinks she puts on enough pressure for a status to kick in...
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Yulie (WA4) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig)
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2)
Yulie (WA4) vs  Cania (WA2)
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC)

6/12

Nightburn (WA5)  vs Beowulf (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Kato (SH2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Legretta (TotA)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Renee (MK)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Wakka (FFX)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Agrias (FFT)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Grand Master (FF1)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Midboss (Disgaea)
Nightburn (WA5) vs Cador (Brig)- hum.  Yeah, Cador is reasonably durable.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Shiego (SO2)
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Cania (WA2)- Nightburn strikes me as slightly better at everything.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Leah (CC)

9/12
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2009, 01:00:37 AM »
Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on June 08, 2009, 12:17:43 AM
Alexia (XF)  vs Beowulf (FFT): I was all ready to mock Beowulf winning this with DRAIN, but then Tide reminded me of the Ice Brand. That gives him 2HKO damage here, yay elemental weaknesses!
Alexia (XF) vs Kato (SH2): Kato just 2HKOs with one of the appropriate elemental Howls. Saves me the trouble of deciding if Alexia 2HKOs back.
Alexia (XF) vs Legretta (TotA): Should be able to slug this one.
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX): Osmose.
Alexia (XF) vs Agrias (FFT): 2HKOs first.
Alexia (XF) vs Grand Master (FF1): As above. You wouldn't think Grand Master would have below average pdur, would you?
Alexia (XF) vs Midboss (Disgaea): How is there any doubt she 2HKOs here...
Alexia (XF) vs Cador (Brig): More 2HKOin', though at least this one is close.
Alexia (XF) vs Shiego (SO2): Shigeo damage!
Alexia (XF) vs Leah (CC): Earth res + Leah not being fast enough to get that doubleturn before Alexia's third turn. So a rare 3HKO win for her. Unless I'm overestimating Leah's HP!

Yulie (WA4) vs Beowulf (FFT): Gut says we see a repeat of the Kresnik match here.
Yulie (WA4) vs Kato (SH2): Paralysis.
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA): Sacrifice should just dodge a MA, I think. Too much of Legretta's durability comes from defence, her raw HP shouldn't reach 2PC I'd think... and Sacrifice does the needed damage. Granted, the numbers may not turn up the way Yulie wants in practice, but I'm inclined to give her the call she needs here.
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX): Silence or sleep.
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT): Yeah, Agrias puts Yulie on the needed defensive.
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1): Wow. Yulie... barely avoids a OHKO. Does GM at some point get the damage variance he needs to win? Eh... probably not, Protect comes along quick enough.
Yulie (WA4) vs Midboss (Disgaea): Midboss versus healer! Again, close to a OHKO, again, not making it.
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig)
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2)
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC): MOAR Earth res.

Don't feel comfortable voting on Nightburn til I finish WA5. Also, not voting on Renee (no MK yet)  or Caina (just don't remember her well).

Otherwise, Elfboy's views are more or less where I stand for this.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2009, 03:52:46 AM »
Alexia (XF)  vs Beowulf (FFT): Beowulf's speed and Shock! as a finisher should be enough here.  Aliexia pretty much has to open with Status Lock too, to boot.
Alexia (XF) vs  Kato (SH2): Alexia's too slow.
Alexia (XF) vs Legretta (TotA): Yep!
Alexia (XF) vs  Renee (MK): Uh-huh.
Alexia (XF) vs Wakka (FFX): Wakka goes first, Status.
Alexia (XF) vs Agrias (FFT): Outslugs.
Alexia (XF) vs Grand Master (FF1); Thinking here too.
Alexia (XF) vs Midboss (Disgaea): Thinking the Durability and Damage offset each other, then Mid-boss too firm a speed edge.
Alexia (XF) vs Cador (Brig): I don't respect Cador too much.
Alexia (XF) vs Shiego (SO2): Nor Shiego, especially against Status Immune potentials.
Alexia (XF) vs  Cania (WA2): Caina kind of sucked, IIRC.
Alexia (XF) vs Leah (CC): Kneejerk.

Yulie (WA4) vs Beowulf (FFT): Beowulf is doing...what to Yulie now?
Yulie (WA4) vs  Kato (SH2): Kneejerk.
Yulie (WA4) vs Legretta (TotA): Yulie doesn't do particularly well against Limit bosses.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Renee (MK): I THINK she can stall here.
Yulie (WA4) vs Wakka (FFX): ...but not here...
Yulie (WA4) vs Agrias (FFT): Yulie has to guard Instant Death, which means she's left open to something like Silence or Stop, which completely fucks her over.
Yulie (WA4) vs Grand Master (FF1): Goes first, does too much of a beating initially that Yulie can't realistically stop the inevitable heal lock, I think.
Yulie (WA4) vs Midboss (Disgaea): Plays defensively, wins.
Yulie (WA4) vs Cador (Brig): Same here!
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2): I don't think WA4 had Stone, so Shiego wins through petrify.
Yulie (WA4) vs  Cania (WA2): Kneejerk.
Yulie (WA4) vs Leah (CC): CC Characters are good at getting big damage out all in one turn (hence the "Awesome at damage manipulation" hype); Leah's damage is physical, so...yeah, sorry Yulie.

Nightburn (WA5)  vs Beowulf (FFT): Life Drain x4 should win this.
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Kato (SH2): Think he's a better slugger.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Legretta (TotA): Think she wins the slug fest.
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Renee (MK): Not here though!
Nightburn (WA5) vs Wakka (FFX): Bosses that ignore evade are not Wakka's friend.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Agrias (FFT): Outslugs in all ways.
Nightburn (WA5) vs Grand Master (FF1): Same here!
Nightburn (WA5) vs Midboss (Disgaea): Yep!
Nightburn (WA5) vs Cador (Brig): More winning!
Nightburn (WA5) vs Shiego (SO2): Why do they all play to his strengths?
Nightburn (WA5) vs  Cania (WA2): I mean, seriously?
Nightburn (WA5) vs Leah (CC): Yeah, fuck it, he's Heavy.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/M week 2: WA storms middle.
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2009, 10:18:59 AM »
Quote from: Meeplelard on June 11, 2009, 03:52:46 AM
Yulie (WA4) vs Shiego (SO2): I don't think WA4 had Stone, so Shiego wins through petrify.

WA4 does have Petrify, and there's a blocker for it.
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