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Souji Seta vs Godlike
« on: June 21, 2009, 06:19:19 AM »
Straightforward.  In the interest of science!, we shall be judging the nigh-infinite skillset of Persona 4's silent protagonist against the strongest the DL has to offer!

And So!

Souji Seta (Persona 4) vs ...

Souji vs. Myria (BoFs)
Souji vs. Ghaleon (Lunars)
Souji vs. Zophar (Lunar EBC)
Souji vs. Lady (SH3)
Souji vs. Fou-lu (BoFIV)
Souji vs. Yuna (FFX)
Souji vs. Piastol (SoA)
Souji vs. Sephiroth (FFVII)
Souji vs. Jenna Angel (DDS)
Souji vs. Jade (BoF1)
Souji vs. Kefka (FFVI)
Souji vs. Yuri Hyuga (SHs)
Souji vs. Ryu (BoFIII)
Souji vs. Heat (DDS)
Souji vs. Xorn (G3)
Souji vs. Melfice (G2)
Souji vs. Emelious (G3)
Souji vs. Profound Darkness (PSIV)
Souji vs. Cloud of Darkness (FFIII)
Souji vs. Luis Virgil (XSs)
Souji vs. TimeLord (SaGa Frontier)
Souji vs. Loki (VP1)
Souji vs. Empyrea (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Lavos (CT)
Souji vs. Indalecio (SO2)
Souji vs. Isolde Schelling (MK)
Souji vs. Nate Nanjo (Pers)
Souji vs. Ellen Kirashima (Pers)
Souji vs. Kuja (FFIX)
Souji vs. Violetta (G3)
Souji vs. Citan Uzuki (XG)
Souji vs. Kyogre (Pkmn)
Souji vs. Terra Branford (FFVI)
Souji vs. Van (TotA)
Souji vs. Avalon (LoL2)
Souji vs. Ryu (BoFIV)
Souji vs. False Althena (Lunar EBC)
Souji vs. Luca Blight (S2)
Souji vs. Chaos (FF1)
Souji vs. Chris Lightfellow (S3)
Souji vs. Rika (PSIV)
Souji vs. Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Souji vs. Deamoned (BoFV)
Souji vs. Ted (SuikoIV)
Souji vs. Dhaos (ToP)
Souji vs. Rubicant (FFIV)
Souji vs. Belial (WA4)
Souji vs. Elc (AtLC)
Souji vs. Royce (Lunar SSSC)
Souji vs. Orlandu (FFT)
Souji vs. Guv (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Ramirez (SoA)
Souji vs. Patriarch (XS2)
Souji vs. 'Zenon' (Dis2)
Souji vs. Zeromus (FFIV)
Souji vs. Seymour (FFX)
Souji vs. Mewtwo (Pkmn)
Souji vs. Yunalesca (FFX)
Souji vs. Oddeye (ShF2)
Souji vs. Malik Benedict (WA3)
Souji vs. Rhapthorne (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Rolf Landale (PSII)
Souji vs. Arc (AtLC)
Souji vs. Lamington (Dis1)
Souji vs. Beatrix (FFIX)
Souji vs. Ultimecia (FFVIII)
Souji vs. Shania (SH3)
Souji vs. Cecilia (WA1)
Souji vs. Dark Force (PSs)
Souji vs. Ash Lambert (VH)
Souji vs. Tibarn (FE9)
Souji vs. Albedo (XSs)
Souji vs. Gilbert (SH3)
Souji vs. Killer (SH3)
Souji vs. Naesala (FE9)
Souji vs. Rashidi (OB)
Souji vs. Endora (OB)
Souji vs. Luther Lansfeld (SO3)
Souji vs. Deis (BoFs)
Souji vs. X (MMXCM)
Souji vs. Claude Kenni (SO2)
Souji vs. Lambda Zellweger (WA4)
Souji vs. Miguel (CC)
Souji vs. Necrosaro (DWIV)
Souji vs. Riou (S2)
Souji vs. Teepo (BoFIII)
Souji vs. Johnny Garland (SH3)
Souji vs. Gades (Lufias)
Souji vs. Millenia (G2)
Souji vs. Choko (AtLs)
Souji vs. Celes Chere (FFVI)
Souji vs. Rosa Harvey (FFIV)
Souji vs. Brahms (VPs)
Souji vs. Lugia (Pkmn)
Souji vs. Jecht (FFX)
Souji vs. Marino (MMXCM)
Souji vs. Kurando Inugami (SH2)
Souji vs. Jessica Albert (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Zog (BoF1)
Souji vs. Dhoulmagus (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Raquel Applegate (WA4)
Souji vs. Asgard (WA3)
Souji vs. Altima (FFT)
Souji vs. Eirika (FE8)
Souji vs. Valvalis (FFIV)
Souji vs. Genevieve (VP1)
Souji vs. Lulu (FFX)
Souji vs. Lenneth Valkyrie (VP1)
Souji vs. Zio (PSIV)
Souji vs. Id (XG)
Souji vs. X-death (FFV)
Souji vs. Nel Zelpher (SO3)
Souji vs. T260G (SaGa Frontier)
Souji vs. Xenobia (Lunar SSSC)
Souji vs. Sir Leopold (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Cyril (SO2)
Souji vs. Gilgamesh (FFV)
Souji vs. KOS-MOS (XSs)
Souji vs. Emily (S3)
Souji vs. Sierra Mikain (S2)
Souji vs. Ryu (BoF2)
Souji vs. Lucia (Suikos)
Souji vs. Tidus (FFX)
Souji vs. Berle (SO2)
Souji vs. Purim (SoM)
Souji vs. Kratos Aurion (ToS)
Souji vs. Magus (CT)
Souji vs. Diekbeck (AtLs)
Souji vs. Chaz Ashley (PSIV)
« Last Edit: June 21, 2009, 09:47:48 AM by Cmdr_King »
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2009, 09:25:08 AM »
Souji vs. Myria (BoFs)
Souji vs. Ghaleon (Lunars)
Souji vs. Zophar (Lunar EBC)
Souji vs. Lady (SH3)
Souji vs. Fou-lu (BoFIV)
Souji vs. Yuna (FFX)
Souji vs. Piastol (SoA)
Souji vs. Sephiroth (FFVII)
Souji vs. Jenna Angel (DDS)
Souji vs. Jade (BoF1)
Souji vs. Kefka (FFVI)
Souji vs. Yuri Hyuga (SHs)
Souji vs. Ryu (BoFIII)
Souji vs. Heat (DDS)
Souji vs. Xorn (G3)
Souji vs. Melfice (G2)
Souji vs. Emelious (G3)
Souji vs. Profound Darkness (PSIV)
Souji vs. Cloud of Darkness (FFIII)
Souji vs. Luis Virgil (XSs)
Souji vs. TimeLord (SaGa Frontier)
Souji vs. Loki (VP1)
Souji vs. Empyrea (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Lavos (CT)
Souji vs. Indalecio (SO2)
Souji vs. Isolde Schelling (MK)
Souji vs. Nate Nanjo (Pers)
Souji vs. Ellen Kirashima (Pers)
Souji vs. Kuja (FFIX)
Souji vs. Violetta (G3)
Souji vs. Citan Uzuki (XG)
Souji vs. Kyogre (Pkmn)
Souji vs. Terra Branford (FFVI)
Souji vs. Van (TotA)
Souji vs. Avalon (LoL2)
Souji vs. Ryu (BoFIV)
Souji vs. False Althena (Lunar EBC)
Souji vs. Luca Blight (S2)
Souji vs. Chaos (FF1)
Souji vs. Chris Lightfellow (S3)
Souji vs. Rika (PSIV)
Souji vs. Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Souji vs. Deamoned (BoFV)
Souji vs. Ted (SuikoIV)
Souji vs. Dhaos (ToP)
Souji vs. Rubicant (FFIV)
Souji vs. Belial (WA4)
Souji vs. Elc (AtLC)
Souji vs. Royce (Lunar SSSC)
Souji vs. Orlandu (FFT)
Souji vs. Guv (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Ramirez (SoA)
Souji vs. Patriarch (XS2)
Souji vs. 'Zenon' (Dis2)
Souji vs. Zeromus (FFIV)
Souji vs. Seymour (FFX)
Souji vs. Mewtwo (Pkmn)
Souji vs. Yunalesca (FFX)
Souji vs. Oddeye (ShF2)
Souji vs. Malik Benedict (WA3)
Souji vs. Rhapthorne (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Rolf Landale (PSII)
Souji vs. Arc (AtLC)
Souji vs. Lamington (Dis1)
Souji vs. Beatrix (FFIX)
Souji vs. Ultimecia (FFVIII)
Souji vs. Shania (SH3)
Souji vs. Cecilia (WA1)
Souji vs. Dark Force (PSs)
Souji vs. Ash Lambert (VH)
Souji vs. Tibarn (FE9)
Souji vs. Albedo (XSs)
Souji vs. Gilbert (SH3)
Souji vs. Killer (SH3)
Souji vs. Naesala (FE9)
Souji vs. Rashidi (OB)
Souji vs. Endora (OB)
Souji vs. Luther Lansfeld (SO3)
Souji vs. Deis (BoFs)
Souji vs. X (MMXCM)
Souji vs. Claude Kenni (SO2)
Souji vs. Lambda Zellweger (WA4)
Souji vs. Miguel (CC)
Souji vs. Necrosaro (DWIV)
Souji vs. Riou (S2)
Souji vs. Teepo (BoFIII)
Souji vs. Johnny Garland (SH3)
Souji vs. Gades (Lufias)
Souji vs. Millenia (G2)
Souji vs. Choko (AtLs)
Souji vs. Celes Chere (FFVI)
Souji vs. Rosa Harvey (FFIV)
Souji vs. Brahms (VPs)
Souji vs. Lugia (Pkmn)
Souji vs. Jecht (FFX)
Souji vs. Marino (MMXCM)
Souji vs. Kurando Inugami (SH2)
Souji vs. Jessica Albert (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Zog (BoF1)
Souji vs. Dhoulmagus (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Raquel Applegate (WA4)
Souji vs. Asgard (WA3)
Souji vs. Altima (FFT)
Souji vs. Eirika (FE8)
Souji vs. Valvalis (FFIV)
Souji vs. Genevieve (VP1)
Souji vs. Lulu (FFX)
Souji vs. Lenneth Valkyrie (VP1)
Souji vs. Zio (PSIV)
Souji vs. Id (XG)
Souji vs. X-death (FFV)
Souji vs. Nel Zelpher (SO3)
Souji vs. T260G (SaGa Frontier)
Souji vs. Xenobia (Lunar SSSC)
Souji vs. Sir Leopold (DQVIII)
Souji vs. Cyril (SO2)
Souji vs. Gilgamesh (FFV)
Souji vs. KOS-MOS (XSs)
Souji vs. Emily (S3)
Souji vs. Sierra Mikain (S2)
Souji vs. Ryu (BoF2)
Souji vs. Lucia (Suikos)
Souji vs. Tidus (FFX)
Souji vs. Berle (SO2)
Souji vs. Purim (SoM)
Souji vs. Kratos Aurion (ToS)
Souji vs. Magus (CT)
Souji vs. Diekbeck (AtLs)
Souji vs. Chaz Ashley (PSIV)
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2009, 09:47:08 AM »
Assumptions:
Void Dark/Light do nothing.
Free skill inheritence except where restricted in-game (for example, only Alice can use Die for Me!)

Myria (BoFs)- Myria.  She needs Paralysis from BoFIII form, but that's pretty decisive.
Ghaleon (Lunars)- Ghaleon.  Most generous possible interp in Souji's favor probably takes this?  he needs Ghaleon to not be able to spam Fate Storm (That is, Fate Storm+Fate Storm combos), to double him very quickly, and a few other things, all of which adds up to quite a stretch.
Zophar (Lunar EBC)- Zophar.  Status ball.
Lady (SH3)- Souji.  Looking at it... Souji can probably pull off the first hit.  Thinking he scrapes the 2HKO even without Auto-Taru... may need to though.  If Lady goes before Umbral, Entrance+Calamity Gaze is a OHKO, so that x2 plus Final Attack would be fatal, so in that scenario he can't let her get a second turn.  Mind, if that didn't happen (ie Umbral goes first), he's fine, gets in another chipping move on his first HP bar and seals the deal.
Fou-lu (BoFIV)- Souji.  Astral is a straightforward win for him, milk his speed (and/or use his magic dodging accessory, if that floats your boat better) and wear Fou down.  Tyrant is weird, he loses his first HP bar to Dark wave no matter what he does, but Fire is consistent enough damage on Fou that he should get Fou under OHKO level before his second turn and the above applies.
Yuna (FFX)- Souji.  Sources tell me that Souji's listed ID percentages are very low.  He needs the ID here, Yuna evade kicks his ass.
Piastol (SoA)- Souji.  She goes first, so he only gets one shot of Hassou Tobi in (first life bar is IDed, second gets in an attack, ID again to knock to 1hp).  Buuuut... Auto-Taru+that+fully amped spell... shouuuuld be enough.
Sephiroth (FFVII)- hmmmm.  Souji.  Physical moves in P4 don't scan as melee to me, so no turn 1 fly hype.  After that, can either OHKO or 2HKO through Wall, neither ends in a Sephy victory.
Jenna Angel (DDS)- Souji.  straightforward Enduring Soul+Endure.
Jade (BoF1)- Souji
Kefka (FFVI)- Souji.  Finally into the OHKO whores he likes!!
Yuri Hyuga (SHs)- Souji.  Should still OHKO through For Everyone.
Ryu (BoFIII)- Souji
Heat (DDS)- Well, I make Heat take a turn to summon the tentacles.  Souji.  Without that... dicey.  Souji can stall for a while, but... I don't think he OHKOs, Heat murders him after a Hassou, and I don't think he can stall long enough to use non-physical offense on his "smite Heat" turns.
Xorn (G3)- Well.  If Xorn has anything better than a 3-2 turn split in his favor, he wins.  This requires 1.24x average speed on Souji's part.  You'd have to take his speed literally to achieve this so uh... yeah Xorn.  Edit: duurr, pure physical/wind.  Souji
Melfice (G2)- Souji.  Melfice has a non-P4 element!  And is only like half Xorn's speed!  And laughs off Hassou!  Souji still gets four whacks at him, it's enough.
Emelious (G3)- Souji.  Easier, Emelious' non-Physical damage isn't as good as Melfice's and he has to spend a turn for that evade.  This makes up his minor statistical advantages.
Profound Darkness (PSIV)- Souji.  The word OHKO is used a lot in the match summary, but it ends in his favor.  More blatantly so if you let him null Light/Dark damage.
Cloud of Darkness (FFIII)- CoD.  Toad.
Luis Virgil (XSs)- Souji.  He can stall the first form indefinitely (it's dependant on Ice/Lightning/Fire), and thus should be able to set himself up to OHKO the second form once it comes out.  He needs to; Stop is a loss, but he should be able to manipulate things in his favor.
TimeLord (SaGa Frontier)- TL
Loki (VP1)- Souji.
Empyrea (DQVIII)- Souji
Lavos (CT)- Souji.  Hmmm.  Looking at it, taken as presented in game he ties it up forever, taking it in a simpler form just involves surviving a OHKO and going from there.
Indalecio (SO2)- Souji
Isolde Schelling (MK)- ... not totally sure, but leaning Souji?  She needs to get turns at under 50% HP and spam Bunker at him until death, dunno if he can manipulate his way around that for sure.
Nate Nanjo (Pers)- P2.  Souji
Ellen Kirashima (Pers)- P2.  Souji.
Kuja (FFIX)- Souji
Violetta (G3)- Souji.  She has one 600 damage spell that hurts him.  That'll work.
Citan Uzuki (XG)- Souji
Kyogre (Pkmn)- Souji
Terra Branford (FFVI)- See Yuna.  Souji.
Van (TotA)- Souji
Avalon (LoL2)- No vote.
Ryu (BoFIV)- Souji
False Althena (Lunar EBC)- Souji
Luca Blight (S2)- Souji
Chaos (FF1)- Souji I'm reasonably sure.  Power Charge if needs be.
Chris Lightfellow (S3)- Souji.
Rika (PSIV)- Souji
Tir McDohl (Suikos)- Souji
Deamoned (BoFV)- Souji
Ted (SuikoIV)- Souji
Dhaos (ToP)- GBA form.  Souji
Rubicant (FFIV)- Souji
Belial (WA4)- Belial.  Stupid 4D pocket.
Elc (AtLC)- No vote.
Royce (Lunar SSSC)- Royce.  Looks like she has some NE damage to get through with while encasing him.
Orlandu (FFT)- Souji
Guv (DQVIII)- Souji
Ramirez (SoA)- Souji.  It's chibi-Piastol >.>
Patriarch (XS2)- Souji.  Thought about hyping Curse, but nah, just plays around and smites via Power charge.
'Zenon' (Dis2)- Souji.  Attacks for free before 50% HP for starters.
Zeromus (FFIV)- Souji
Seymour (FFX)- Souji
Mewtwo (Pkmn)- Souji
Yunalesca (FFX)- Souji.  Any regen lets him get to form 3 on his first HP bar, and I tend to think he whittles form 3 down fast enough.
Oddeye (ShF2)- No vote.
Malik Benedict (WA3)- Silence and Confuse are on the list of things Souji can catch!  Souji
Rhapthorne (DQVIII)- Souji
Rolf Landale (PSII)- No vote.
Arc (AtLC)- No vote.
Lamington (Dis1)- Souji
Beatrix (FFIX)- Souji
Ultimecia (FFVIII)- I'm just going to assume.  Souji
Shania (SH3)- See Yuri more or less.  Souji
Cecilia (WA1)- Souji
Dark Force (PSs)- Souji.
Ash Lambert (VH)- NO vote.
Tibarn (FE9)- Souji.  ID.
Albedo (XSs)- Souji
Gilbert (SH3)- Souji
Killer (SH3)- Souji
Naesala (FE9)- Souji
Rashidi (OB)- No vote.
Endora (OB)- No vote.
Luther Lansfeld (SO3)- Souji.  Power Charge, OHKO.
Deis (BoFs)- Souji
X (MMXCM)- Souji
Claude Kenni (SO2)- Souji
Lambda Zellweger (WA4)- Souji.  He only has to hit once and all.
Miguel (CC)- Souji
Necrosaro (DWIV)- Souji
Riou (S2)- Souji
Teepo (BoFIII)- Souji.
Johnny Garland (SH3)- Souji
Gades (Lufias)- Souji
Millenia (G2)- Souji
Choko (AtLs)- AtL4 choko.  Souji
Celes Chere (FFVI)- See Yuna.  Souji
Rosa Harvey (FFIV)- Souji
Brahms (VPs)- Souji
Lugia (Pkmn)- Souji
Jecht (FFX)- Jecht!!.  he really is the best.
Marino (MMXCM)- Marino.  Think she's... slllliiiiightly faster.  Thus, multiple ID applications and victory!
Kurando Inugami (SH2)- Souji.
Jessica Albert (DQVIII)- Souji
Zog (BoF1)- Souji
Dhoulmagus (DQVIII)- Souji
Raquel Applegate (WA4)- Souji.  Applies Silence.  After that she can't damage him, she shouldn't be able to kill him in the interim.
Asgard (WA3)- Souji
Altima (FFT)- Souji
Eirika (FE8)- Souji.  ID if you disrespect his damage against evade particularly.
Valvalis (FFIV)- Valvalis.  Don't... really see a way for him to kill her fast enough to prevent petrification.
Genevieve (VP1)- Souji
Lulu (FFX)- Souji
Lenneth Valkyrie (VP1)- Souji
Zio (PSIV)- Souji
Id (XG)- Souji
X-Death (FFV)- ... X-Death.  Man, now I wish there was Auto-Power Charge.  Edit: Second thought, what'm I thinking, he should OHKO.  Souji
Nel Zelpher (SO3)- Souji
T260G (SaGa Frontier)- Souji.  He might only 2HKO?  But windup turn makes that moot.
Xenobia (Lunar SSSC)- Xenobia
Sir Leopold (DQVIII)- Souji
Cyril (SO2)- Souji
Gilgamesh (FFV)- Gilgamesh.  Frog
KOS-MOS (XSs)- Souji
Emily (S3)- Souji
Sierra Mikain (S2)- Souji
Ryu (BoF2)- Souji
Lucia (Suikos)- Souji
Tidus (FFX)- Souji.
Berle (SO2)- Souji
Purim (SoM)- No vote.
Kratos Aurion (ToS)- Souji
Magus (CT)- Souji
Diekbeck (AtLs)- AtL4.  Souji
Chaz Ashley (PSIV)- Souji.

129 Godlikes total.
9 no votes.

1 undecided vote.

12 losses out of 119 possible.  Or, 106/119 wins.  Worth noting here that, if we supposed that Void Dark/Light was equivelent to ID immunity, he'd probably beat Ghaleon and Marino too.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2009, 01:38:55 PM »
How is Souji losing to Xenobia/Val? Slow stone can be cured by salvation.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2009, 01:54:11 PM »
For simplicity's sake I'm only keeping in either close matches that Souji wins, or matches Souji loses. Also remember I hate boss durability so a lot of my gutchecks will look different from average. This being said I'm not 100% sure on skill inheritance.

Also, I see Void Light/Dark as blocking ID but not damage, since there is all of one Light-element attack that does damage and it's cHP. Which means I'd probably also see Souji blocking a very few sets of cHP damage.

Souji vs. Myria (BoFs) - Lemme think here. Stat topic has the paralysis as being semi-inaccurate, which against Souji might be a nightmare incarnate. On the other hand Myria3 -is- fast and still quite durable, even with my AI scaling. Vote Myria for now.
Souji vs. Ghaleon (Lunars) - Me and Ghaleon; Fate Storm being blocked, so Debilitate and Ghaleon's just kinda... there. (Or Heat Riser, w/e) Isn't too hard a call for me here.
Souji vs. Zophar (Lunar EBC) - Status ball, yup. Unshaken Will+Insta-Heal's good coverage (walls Silence/Confuse/Poison, reduces Paralyze to 1 turn) but that's not enough to stop the boom hammer.
Souji vs. Fou-lu (BoFIV) - Dark Wave isn't enough, here. Pretty much see CK.
Souji vs. Yuna (FFX) - Uh... ID should settle this, he has boosters. If you see it missing, Aeon Yuna... needs Anima bad but wins with that, Aeonless gets outstalled by Spell Master/Sukukaja/Debilitate/Invigorate 3/Spirit Drain in an incredibly pathetic fight is kneejerk. No skill inheritance and Aeonless Yuna probably wins if the ID misses first shot, he can't ever double so Reraise/Holy seals it.
Souji vs. Sephiroth (FFVII) - See CK, not buying Fly for phys skill immunity.
Souji vs. Jade (BoF1) - Rub is limit according to chat. Doesn't matter to me, might for others.
Souji vs. Heat (DDS) - Cute match, if Heat gets even one action he wins since Souji can't bypass tentacles. Not seeing it, though.
Souji vs. Profound Darkness (PSIV) - ...h-uhm. Lemme think, PD's got an argument. Likes the fact that she's probably one of the more durable bosses to me here.
Souji vs. Cloud of Darkness (FFIII) - Wins if you have FF3DS form, loses otherwise.
Souji vs. TimeLord (SaGa Frontier)
Souji vs. Isolde Schelling (MK) - Gutchecking Souji, but unsure, willing to hear arguments.
Souji vs. Avalon (LoL2) - Better tank, Petrify kills and he's likely to get a turn.
Souji vs. Belial (WA4) - 4D Pocket, yeah.
Souji vs. Royce (Lunar SSSC) - Insta-Heal, Flamebird drops on his turn and Royce gets finished off.
Souji vs. Mewtwo (Pkmn) - RBY form... might... .... gut says no, but if Mewtwo gets a turn Barrier goes up and things start getting weird. Still, Souji has time to land status.
Souji vs. Yunalesca (FFX) - Insta-heal > FFX Zombie is my gut.
Souji vs. Jecht (FFX) - Gets a turn, Petrify.
Souji vs. Marino (MMXCM) - Since CK listed it. ID gets blocked for me, so.
Souji vs. Valvalis (FFIV) - Insta-Heal, Gradual Petrify wears off before it kills. Doesn't even take a turn!
Souji vs. Xenobia (Lunar SSSC) - Gets a turn, status. (NINJA EDIT: Never mind, it's slow petrify.)
Souji vs. Gilgamesh (FFV) - Paralyze doesn't auto-kill. Form 4, Gilgamesh Frogs immediately, HP-1s, then Rocket Punches! ... Insta-Heal stops the strat. Cute, though!


EDIT: For fun, I'm also including Yuna's Aeon Chain.

Souji vs. Shiva, Ixion - Can't damage Souji.
Souji vs. Ifrit - Meteor Drive gets past all Souji's resistances! ...and isn't anywhere near enough damage. Ahah.
Souji vs. Valefor - Limits can hurt, but not likely to see them here.
Souji vs. Bahamut - Ditto. Waterga can also do damage!... ahah to that being enough.
Souji vs. Anima - Changes if you see the ID working, but Pain alone isn't enough to stop Souji from getting a turn.
Souji vs. Yojimbo - Null phys? I guess?
Souji vs. Magus Sisters - Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Loses to seven on my list - TL/Jecht/Gilgamesh/Myria/Zophar/Avalon/Belial. Yes, he's a high Godlike. Yes, there are arguments for Bluelike. However, he's just as rankable as Aeon Yuna is, honestly, if not more.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2009, 01:56:57 PM »
Didn't I do this already >_> 

Anyway, assuming no skill inheritance, light/dark void instant death and gravity damage of the light/dark variety.  Only leaving in the ones he loses.  Also, usual OK views are assumed for this >_>

Souji vs. Tyr (BoFs) - Requires Venom, here.
Souji vs. Ghaleon (Lunars) - Chaos Shield.
Souji vs. Zophar (Lunar EBC) - Multiple hands.
Souji vs. Fou-lu (BoFIV) - Continuous Soul Rends
Souji vs. Piastol (SoA) - Eternum is Silver
Souji vs. Sephiroth (FFVII) - KH1 form locks with Heartless Angel, I think.
Souji vs. Jenna Angel (DDS) - Protection!
Souji vs. Jade (BoF1) - ...fucking Rub.
Souji vs. Heat (DDS) - Heat with Tentacles is just enough.
Souji vs. Emelious (G3) - Don't think Soji can stop Godkiller
Souji vs. Profound Darkness (PSIV) - SLEEP 
Souji vs. Cloud of Darkness (FFIII) - FF3DS!
Souji vs. Loki (VP1) - See Genevive, although this is much more in his favour.
Souji vs. Lavos (CT) - It's Lavos.
Souji vs. Indalecio (SO2) - It's Indalecio.
Souji vs. Kuja (FFIX) - FLARESTAR OH YES
Souji vs. Violetta (G3) - Just a biiiiit too much pressure.
Souji vs. Avalon (LoL2) - STONE
Souji vs. Chaos (FF1) - Crack...eventually kills.
Souji vs. Tir McDohl (Suikos) - S1 Tir's ID is void-aligned...think he's fast enough too.
Souji vs. Dhaos (ToP) - STONE. 
Souji vs. Belial (WA4) - 4D Pocket.
Souji vs. Royce (Lunar SSSC) - FLAME BIRD DAMAGE YES
Souji vs. Ramirez (SoA) - Eternum is Silver, so I don't see it getting guarded
Souji vs. Zeromus (FFIV) - Big Bang...the extra damage could kill.  Triggers the endures.  Wow.
Souji vs. Yunalesca (FFX) - Megadeath!
Souji vs. Rhapthorne (DQVIII) - I...think sleep gets him, here.  Wow.
Souji vs. Ultimecia (FFVIII) - Freakish durability, and lasts long enough to get in the hits needed.
Souji vs. Dark Force (PSs) - Has something.  Status...is just enough, I think?  Otherwise, void-aligned magic.  But this is really close.
Souji vs. Lambda Zellweger (WA4) - I think I went over this, but Lambda...dodges enough.
Souji vs. Gades (Lufias) - Yeah...HP-1+Poison. 
Souji vs. Jecht (FFX) - Stone
Souji vs. Asgard (WA3) - XF form for Godlike, here.
Souji vs. Genevieve (VP1) - Random indiscriminate...does it, I think.  Just enough.
Souji vs. X-death (FFV) - Yay Exdeath hype.  Exdeath has enough elements that Soji has issues blocking them all, and Flare/Holy...or Grand Cross in the Neo form.  The form-chain screws Soji here.
Souji vs. Cyril (SO2) - WORD OF DEATH IS NON-ALIGNED TO AN ELEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!
Souji vs. Gilgamesh (FFV) - MF6 form has enough nuttiness here.
Souji vs. Kratos Aurion (ToS) - ...so...I think enough lucky Judgments do it?  Also, Soji must guard physicals here, and Kratos has enough other stuff to kick him out, I think.

39 losses.  Damn good for a PC Godlike, reall, but not Bluelike at all.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2009, 02:07:49 PM »
No inheritance, I'll mention where ID is important; probably don't see him blocking unless it's explicitly light or dark style i.e. Tir.

Souji vs. Yuna (FFX): Evades first turn, Anima uses Pain, tanks Hassou Tobi BARELY.
Souji vs. Piastol (SoA): See Silver as NE.
Souji vs. Sephiroth (FFVII): Good enough for Snow is good enough for me.
Souji vs. Kefka (FFVI): TRAIN/whatever it's called in FF6A. Souji is either silenced or can't hit the broad side of a Wailord. Best he can do is resist physicals while being able to heal it and gets kinda splattered by Havoc Wing. Outslugged by METEOR if he doesn't. Enduring Soul Personas blow at damage.
Souji vs. Yuri Hyuga (SHs): Faster, Hassou Tobi.
Souji vs. Luis Virgil (XSs): Snow answer Mk. II.
Souji vs. Lavos (CT): Yoshitsune nulls its best damage.
Souji vs. Kuja (FFIX): Faster, Hassou Tobi.
Souji vs. Kyogre (Pkmn): Encore!
Souji vs. Terra Branford (FFVI): Encore!
Souji vs. Van (TotA): Even if Mystic Artes bypass immunity... Power Charged Hassou Toubi.
Souji vs. Chaos (FF1): Shiva kills with Megidolaon, Enduring Soul.
Souji vs. Chris Lightfellow (S3)
Souji vs. Rubicant (FFIV): Lol one good damage type against Souji.
Souji vs. Belial (WA4): 4D Pocket.
Souji vs. Orlandu (FFT): Blocks physicals.
Souji vs. Ramirez (SoA): Hassou Tobi, killed. Endures, switches to Shiva for second life, uses Paralaya... and doesn't quite kill, I don't think.
Souji vs. Patriarch (XS2): Curse is hell on him.
Souji vs. Zeromus (FFIV): Lolsmash.
Souji vs. Seymour (FFX): Trumpeter I guess, though switching to Ice means that Souji needs to switch or Reflecting Ice just lets Seymour heal himself >_>
Souji vs. Mewtwo (Pkmn): Needs to use Barrier for Hassou Tobi, which means he can't Amnesia > OHKO before getting statused.
Souji vs. Yunalesca (FFX): Might call Megadeath Dark?... nah. ITE debuffing physical is fun too.
Souji vs. Malik Benedict (WA3): *Chuckle*
Souji vs. Beatrix (FFIX): *Splat*
Souji vs. Cecilia (WA1): *Squish*
Souji vs. Tibarn (FE9): Tibarn can't even hurt him >_>
Souji vs. Albedo (XSs): Surt.
Souji vs. Naesala (FE9): ...
Souji vs. Celes Chere (FFVI): Smashy...
Souji vs. Rosa Harvey (FFIV): Again.
Souji vs. Lugia (Pkmn)
Souji vs. Jecht (FFX): The best!
Souji vs. Raquel Applegate (WA4)
Souji vs. Asgard (WA3)
Souji vs. Altima (FFT)
Souji vs. Eirika (FE8)
Souji vs. Valvalis (FFIV)
Souji vs. Lulu (FFX): Erm. Probably.
Souji vs. Nel Zelpher (SO3)
Souji vs. KOS-MOS (XSs)
Souji vs. Emily (S3)
Souji vs. Lucia (Suikos)
Souji vs. Tidus (FFX)
Souji vs. Kratos Aurion (ToS)
Souji vs. Magus (CT)

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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2009, 10:21:35 PM »
My assumptions: full skill inheritance and Light/Dark immune their element. If ID is dark/light elemental or just arguably so, it gets immuned as well.

Souji vs. Myria (BoFs) - The fact that Myria's NE magic is absolutely awful sorta dooms her here. Souji can slap SP Regen junk on stuff and carry Null Phys to a ton of healer personas with high-end magic, which keeps him nicely afloat.
Souji vs. Ghaleon (Lunars) - Just feel the odds are too stacked against Souji. Excellent fight, though.
Souji vs. Zophar (Lunar EBC) - Zophar curses my not playing of EBC forever.
Souji vs. Lady (SH3) - Kneejerk? This is a rather close match regardless, since I'm certain Souji 2HKOs. I just also have confidence in Lady's ability to chippershred his Endures.
Souji vs. Fou-lu (BoFIV) - Typical Souji win. Think that he reduces Dark Wave below OHKO with his single turn (Souji's decent at HP, if nothing else), and excellent stalling game+consistently strong fire damage should handle Fou fine.
Souji vs. Yuna (FFX) - Too much respect for Die For Me!'s accuracy. Yuna makes it close, though, and she kicks his ass if she gets a turn.
Souji vs. Sephiroth (FFVII) - Don't think Seph gets OHKOed by Souji, and he's faster. Pale Horse = fweem. The status is insanely accurate anyway and Seph himself has 255% accuracy.
Souji vs. Jenna Angel (DDS) - The Endures kick Jenna's ass.
Souji vs. Jade (BoF1) - Horrifyingly spoils. I think I'd see Rub as Dark (could be argued otherwise), which gives Jade no real chance to fight back.
Souji vs. Kefka (FFVI) - Souji immunes Havoc Wing with Yoshitsune, blocks Silence and promptly OHKOs Kefka with Hassou Tobi. Dark hype fails.
Souji vs. Yuri Hyuga (SHs) - OHKOs first.
Souji vs. Ryu (BoFIII) - OHKOs first. Don't think Ryu is that durable.
Souji vs. Heat (DDS) - Souji goes first, so Thunder Reign => Hassou Tobi = GG. Maziodyne owns tentacles as well.
Souji vs. Xorn (G3) - Walls.
Souji vs. Melfice (G2) - Walls the physicals. Melfice now is relegated to a 3HKO and gets easily outlasted.
Souji vs. Emelious (G3) - Physical walling does similarly evil things to Emelious.
Souji vs. Profound Darkness (PSIV) - ... you know, Cancelling nulls Souji's immunities. But Souji can just use that first form to buff up while walling and make it so she won't get the time to apply that and exploit it, because PC Hassou Tobi is just insane.
Souji vs. Cloud of Darkness (FFIII) - Souji vs. 3HKOer. That'll work.
Souji vs. Luis Virgil (XSs) - Confusion eats physical immunity to me, since XS1 doesn't give an attacker's definition in any way regarding immuning physical status (however, the status -does- miss if the physical does, so it's a good tiebreaker in conjunction with how P4 immunities work). Past that, though, Virgil's got Stop. That's GG.
Souji vs. TimeLord (SaGa Frontier) - cruuuuuuuushhhhhhhhh
Souji vs. Loki (VP1) - Have Trumpeter immune 6/7 of Loki's damage, the end.
Souji vs. Empyrea (DQVIII) - derp, physical+lightning. Yoshitsune base solos.
Souji vs. Lavos (CT) - Hassou Tobi being MT sorta trivializes Lavos' bits and he has to take a turn to summon them to me. Past that, physical immunity to handle Lavos' offense and his status needs bits.
Souji vs. Indalecio (SO2) - Power Charge+Hassou Tobi comfortably OHKOs and Indalecio utterly sucks at full HP.
Souji vs. Isolde Schelling (MK) - Isolde doesn't have enough pressure at full HP to handle someone with that level of buffing. Chipping handles her, and Debilitate wouldn't help matters either.
Souji vs. Kuja (FFIX) - lol ohko.
Souji vs. Violetta (G3) - Yeah, see CK.
Souji vs. Citan Uzuki (XG) - lolphysical
Souji vs. Kyogre (Pkmn) - ... right, he could get Angelic Grace and Debilitate is evil.
Souji vs. Terra Branford (FFVI) - Hmmm. Do I let Souji's Die For Me! ignore evade? Given how statuses aren't affected by evade in P4, and that one has a comprehensive evasion stat... I'll bite.
Souji vs. Van (TotA) - May OHKO without Hassou Tobi. Van sucks.
Souji vs. Avalon (LoL2) - Charm or Stone, pick your poison.
Souji vs. Ryu (BoFIV) - If Ryu3 I saw losing...
Souji vs. False Althena (Lunar EBC) - Souji doesn't OHKO, FA drops the killer status bomb on him.
Souji vs. Luca Blight (S2) - lol single elemental+physicals.
Souji vs. Chaos (FF1) - Pretty easy.
Souji vs. Chris Lightfellow (S3) - Souji opens with Yoshitsune, swaps to Alice, Chris dies for her.
Souji vs. Rika (PSIV) - I think Rika's still faster... and right, it totally doesn't matter.
Souji vs. Tir McDohl (Suikos) - Tir vs. Souji is rather similar to Rika vs. Souji, only Tir is probably a bit slower.
Souji vs. Ted (SuikoIV) - lol dark immunity
Souji vs. Dhaos (ToP) - lol immune physicals+ne magic.
Souji vs. Rubicant (FFIV) - More of the walling.
Souji vs. Belial (WA4) - Souji Dies for Her.
Souji vs. Elc (AtLC) - Makarakarns Elc's whoring and has SP Regen. That's more or less it.
Souji vs. Royce (Lunar SSSC) - FLAMEBIRD DAMAGE
Souji vs. Orlandu (FFT) - lol yoshitsune
Souji vs. Guv (DQVIII) - Physical immunity = Call Team's threat can be summed up by wwwwww. Guv himself against Souji is just pathetic.
Souji vs. Patriarch (XS2) - OVERKILL SLASHING PHYSICAL DAMAGE AGAINST PATRIARCH
Souji vs. Zeromus (FFIV) - Zeromus sucks.
Souji vs. Seymour (FFX) - lol elements.
Souji vs. Mewtwo (Pkmn) - Debilitates just turns this match around.
Souji vs. Yunalesca (FFX) - Yeah, I think she's enough of a pain in the ass against PCs to win this.
Souji vs. Oddeye (ShF2) - No dice.
Souji vs. Malik Benedict (WA3) - I think he can wall Silence and Confuse at the same time. Malik listens to Sum 41.
Souji vs. Rhapthorne (DQVIII) - Dear god, OHKO.
Souji vs. Rolf Landale (PSII) - A-ri-su~s.
Souji vs. Arc (AtLC) - Um yeah.
Souji vs. Beatrix (FFIX) - He Samsaras here!
Souji vs. Ultimecia (FFVIII) - ULTIMECIA AGAINST COMPETENT HEALER
Souji vs. Shania (SH3) - OHKOs. Shania isn't that durable before morphing.
Souji vs. Cecilia (WA1) - More OHKOing.
Souji vs. Dark Force (PSs) - And more winning nasty attrition fights and walling.
Souji vs. Ash Lambert (VH) - More dying.
Souji vs. Albedo (XSs) - And more lol ohko.
Souji vs. Gilbert (SH3) - Yet again.
Souji vs. Killer (SH3) - And again! It hits me that Souji with only Yoshitsune would be Godlike, y'know.
Souji vs. Rashidi (OB) - More lol ohko.
Souji vs. Endora (OB) - And even more.
Souji vs. Luther Lansfeld (SO3) - Limit fighters vs. Souji? That'll work.
Souji vs. Deis (BoFs) - Um, yeah.
Souji vs. X (MMXCM) - Yoshitsunes.
Souji vs. Claude Kenni (SO2) - More Yoshitsuning.
Souji vs. Lambda Zellweger (WA4) - Decent fight! But nah.
Souji vs. Miguel (CC) - lol physical+light immunity.
Souji vs. Necrosaro (DWIV) - Um yeah.
Souji vs. Riou (S2) - Immunes Holy. Doesn't really have to.
Souji vs. Teepo (BoFIII) - Yep.
Souji vs. Johnny Garland (SH3) - OHKOs first.
Souji vs. Gades (Lufias) - lol.
Souji vs. Millenia (G2) - OHKOs.
Souji vs. Choko (AtLs) - no.
Souji vs. Celes Chere (FFVI) - See Terra.
Souji vs. Rosa Harvey (FFIV) - lol ohko.
Souji vs. Brahms (VPs) - Yoshitsune.
Souji vs. Lugia (Pkmn) - Um yeah.
Souji vs. Jecht (FFX) - EDIT: Bleh, right. That thing would have to be Die For Me! accurate for a turn one effect, I guess.
Souji vs. Marino (MMXCM) - More OHKOing.
Souji vs. Jessica Albert (DQVIII) - Walls more or less everything Jessica can do to actually -damage- him.
Souji vs. Zog (BoF1) - See above.
Souji vs. Dhoulmagus (DQVIII) - A Heavy trying to face down Souji is at least less sad than a Middle trying that.
Souji vs. Raquel Applegate (WA4) - Yoshitsune.
Souji vs. Asgard (WA3) - 2HKOs, ID isn't turn one.
Souji vs. Altima (FFT) - I think she gets a Cross.
Souji vs. Eirika (FE8) - Yoshitsune.
Souji vs. Valvalis (FFIV) - EDIT: AUTOMATIC STATUS HEALING AT THE END OF A TURN. That should own Slow Petrify.
Souji vs. Genevieve (VP1) - Loki didn't do any better.
Souji vs. Lulu (FFX) - Gets two turns to Alice Lulu.
Souji vs. Lenneth Valkyrie (VP1) - Um yeah, physicals.
Souji vs. Zio (PSIV) - Wow.
Souji vs. Id (XG) - This is just horribly sad.
Souji vs. X-death (FFV) - Exdeath.
Souji vs. Nel Zelpher (SO3) - Sooooooo.
Souji vs. T260G (SaGa Frontier) - Those matches are getting mindless.
Souji vs. Xenobia (Lunar SSSC) - Xenobia tries, but the petrify needed to be turn one.
Souji vs. Sir Leopold (DQVIII) - Ice+physical immunity. The end.
Souji vs. Cyril (SO2) - Yeah.
Souji vs. Gilgamesh (FFV) - EDIT: Wait, Palsy isn't match-winning. Can... can Gilgy even -damage- Souji, then?
Souji vs. KOS-MOS (XSs) - Alice.
Souji vs. Emily (S3) - Yoshitsune.
Souji vs. Sierra Mikain (S2) - Trumpeter.
Souji vs. Ryu (BoF2) - Alice.
Souji vs. Lucia (Suikos) - OHKO.
Souji vs. Tidus (FFX) - Yoshitsune into Alice combo.
Souji vs. Berle (SO2) - Healz0rz.
Souji vs. Purim (SoM) - Hassou Tobi.
Souji vs. Magus (CT) - Non-elemental magic+healz0rz.
Souji vs. Diekbeck (AtLs) - Same as Elc. Made worse by Die For Me! being uber accurate on Diek.
Souji vs. Chaz Ashley (PSIV) - Dies for Her.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2009, 11:22:42 PM »
New skillset discovery!  Insta-heal: "statuses only last one round".  The wording of this is slightly ambiguous; I'm not sure if this means that Souji simply heals from all status at the end of the round, or if it heals after it has afflicted him for one round.  Depending on which is true, affects match outcomes.

Valvalis can't really win now.  Either definition means that she can't fully petrify him even with doubles, and now that he doesn't have to spend resources combating Petrify he should easily whittle her down.

Xenobia was probably toast due to slow petrify in the first place (I blame Gourry for no realizing this >.>), auto-healed slow petrify ends very badly indeed.

Gilgamesh seems toasted by this as well.  Even if it's at the end of the round (Gilgamesh is faster, so that'd mean he simply reapplies and attacks on doubles), Souji can simply twink for evasion and OHKO him upon a miss.

Cloud of Darkness meanwhile depends on what, exactly, it does.  If it acts at the end of the turn, he's in the clear since he's faster.  If he spends one turn paralysed/frogged, she gets to hit him with two Particle Beams and wins.

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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2009, 11:47:39 PM »
CK: Gilgamesh gets Death Claw, HP->1 and Paralyze, should hit turn 2. Either way he kills thanks to that, I think. And I need to test Insta-Heal, it's just... damnably hard to do. Remind me in chat later.

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2009, 11:55:56 PM »
Turn 2 status is fairly useless if Souji OHKOs, no?
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2009, 12:06:36 AM »
Oh, right. Sure, that makes sense.

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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2009, 12:32:18 AM »
Thing is Gilgy can't really be OHKOed, he has those three turns of living after getting killed.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2009, 12:47:58 AM »
Just a note on Jecht: Mara has Absorb Physical and Makarakarn. Granted, Souji only has 9 castings of it, but 9 reflected Jecht Beams+one final smash. Granted, this may not be enough (Although it should be if you see Jecht Beam hitting evasion, given that it lets him sneak in a lots more of the smashings (Jecht is also screwed with skill inheritance, since Souji can probably manipulate to get turn 1 Rage...and Absorb Physical; Granted, inheritance probably also could spell doom for a few others- TL perhaps with getting antiphysicals on Asura, although some luck with Reaper at the right time...bah who knows. Unless Unshaken Will doesn't get all the statuses in game?).
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2009, 12:49:45 AM »
Wait, is Jecht Beam reflectable?
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2009, 12:53:50 AM »
Dhyer: It does not; only covers 5 of 7 IIRC.

Editing to Souji > Gilgy; paralysis doesn't end the match, which is emo Gilgamesh.

For more info: Insta-Heal works as follows. Status is inflicted, Souji spends one turn with said status. Immediately at the beginning of his second turn, the status is removed. This of course doesn't help him if the status is lethal, buuuut makes a lot of staller status not worthwhile.

For Dhyer: Rage/Fear/Silence/Enervation/Confusion are what Unshaken Will blocks. Thus, Dizzy, Poison and Exhaustion remain unblocked. Dizzy is the closest thing to non-lethal paralysis that exists in P4; Exhaustion is MP POIZN.

Re: Jecht, turn 1 Rage... Valiant Dance+Rage Boost, both innate on Mothman. From there it wouldn't be hard to figure out some phys-immune fusion, no. (Worst case scenario, fuse Mothman with Rangda, get Repel Phys/Valiant Dance/Rage Boost to carry over to... Gabriel, who can learn status fine.) So.

Timelord's petrify can't be covered by Souji as far as I can tell, so.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2009, 04:39:15 AM »
Thanks to Jecht's defense scores, turn 1 rage against average =/= turn 1 rage against him.

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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2009, 04:49:38 AM »
Anyone faster who doesn't have MP limitations i.e. Sephy can just reapply status until doubles and attack on those, assuming they also have a means of dealing damage.

Which I think Gilgamesh lacks anyways.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2009, 11:52:24 AM »
Is there anything Souji can do to prevent Ness from tanking a Hossou Tobi and hitting him with a PK Flash? Ness's armor protects him from PK Flash could translate to ID protection. If so Ness could be an interesting spoiler.

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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2009, 01:11:29 PM »
Even presuming PK Flash blocks ID, Souji can pretty much grab any status in the game and use it, so Silence/Rage/Confuse would all probably give Souji the time he needs. (And that's presuming Hassou Tobi fails to OHKO, which... is possible? Just not something I'd anticipate.)

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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2009, 01:52:27 PM »
HT is 3.5x average damage, so there's a pretty good chance Ness could take that .
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2009, 02:24:12 PM »
With Auto-Taru?  Guess it depends on how you factor it in.

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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2009, 09:21:46 PM »
Yes, with auto Taru. Average damage for Souji is 400~ damage.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2009, 05:15:42 PM »
Going to skip the obvious blowouts.

Souji vs. Myria (BoFs)- Myria 3, status.
Souji vs. Ghaleon (Lunars)- FS/Chaos shield really slows down Souji's offense.
Souji vs. Zophar (Lunar EBC)- Status ball.
Souji vs. Lady (SH3)- Nooooo idea.
Souji vs. Fou-lu (BoFIV)- Outslugs. Soul Rend keeps pressure on but he doesn't have enough damage outside of that.
Souji vs. Yuna (FFX)- Die for me! can be transfered to a fast Persona, right?
Souji vs. Sephiroth (FFVII)- Fly.
Souji vs. Jade (BoF1)- Assuming I put no turn restrictions on on Rub, it's a damn close fight.. It's rare but he can use it at full health. How good is Souji against resistable status?
Souji vs. Kefka (FFVI)- Kefka's opening with fallen one, just to prevent immense pain from the physical. Souji needs:

Insta heal (Silence is bad news otherwise)
Full healing
HT
Elemental spell
Physical nulling
Enduring Soul
Walling the big three elements

Can he do all that? Edit: Does Insta heal work as soon as the status is inflicted or the end of the round?

Souji vs. Heat (DDS)- Donno.
Souji vs. Profound Darkness (PSIV)- Dishes out his damage faster.
Souji vs. Luis Virgil (XSs)- I don't think he can OHKO Virgil without HT, and I don't see that hitting him. Shadow Wing is definitely fatal.
Souji vs. TimeLord (SaGa Frontier)- Overdrive.
Souji vs. Lavos (CT)- Should 2HKO at worst.
Souji vs. Isolde Schelling (MK)- She starts too slowly. Iso eats through at least one of Souji's HP bars, but it isn't enough when he goes first and has that kind of psycho damage.
Souji vs. Terra Branford (FFVI)- Um. Terra has a case, but I think she needs too many calls in her favor. Has to tank enough of HT, and then hit her status on a somewhat resistant target. Souji being faster helps too much here.
Souji vs. Avalon (LoL2)
Souji vs. Belial (WA4)
Souji vs. Elc (AtLC)-  Elc is overmatched even if he can get a turn.
Souji vs. Royce (Lunar SSSC)
Souji vs. Yunalesca (FFX)- Too much status/pressure offhand.
Souji vs. Malik Benedict (WA3)- Debiliate kills the evasion for me.
Souji vs. Jecht (FFX)- Beam.
Souji vs. Marino (MMXCM)- Faster.
Souji vs. Dhoulmagus (DQVIII)- Should just 2HKO. Dhoulmagus 1 kind of has an argument, maybe? Sorta? Nah.
Souji vs. Altima (FFT)- Should OHKO each form.
Souji vs Valvalis (FFIV)- Val wins this if she had any type of magic damage.
Souji vs. T260G (SaGa Frontier)- Should be able to outlast T260G's limit phase.
Souji vs. Xenobia (Lunar SSSC)- Xenobia's status is curable IIRC.

EDIT: OK, the P4 mechanics FAQs are claiming that Die for me is only 50% without Mudo boost. Does that match your numbers?
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