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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2009, 05:34:35 PM »
Tai says above that Insta-Heal is end of turn.

I'm not sure what Souji can do with your views, Super, since I've been assuming no inheritance, but I'm like 90% sure he can't have all that on one Persona. Granted, he can switch to an Enduring Soul Persona after Fallen One, but he also needs Insta-Heal or Kefka will hit him with Silence and Blind (if you let it work >_>) before killing him, and surviving with Endure/Enduring Soul doesn't get rid of status.

Oh, and he has Dispel on top of all that, right?
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2009, 05:35:05 PM »
Die for Me! is untransferable.  However, doesn't mean he can't set Yoshi and then swap to Alice on his turn (unless of course you're specifically denying him this ability)
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2009, 05:43:03 PM »
I think it's 50% base, raised to 75% base with Mudo Boost.  HOWEVER!  Status is LUC-based, and level-based.  Alice has...actually high LUC, so it's a bit better.  About 60% against endgame (assuming Mudo Boost - around 40% without).

In terms of status resist...Soji wants a high LUC persona.  The best...is actually Ardha, who's about 1.6x average LUC or so.  I probably need to go through and calc status resist at some point, don't I?
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2009, 05:44:47 PM »
That'd help, yes. Can status magic be evaded?
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2009, 07:19:32 PM »
Souji vs. Yuna (FFX)- Die for me! can be transfered to a fast Persona, right?

It can't! However, Souji can just start with a fast persona and swap to Alice as soon as he gets that turn. Then, things end.

Regarding Die For Me!, from my own experiences, its listed accuracy is way too low. Alice gets Mudo Boost naturally anyway, though, so it's moot and it's sort of an 80%+ accuracy spell speaking from my end.

EDIT: Also, status magic in P4 isn't evadable unless it has a non-status tag. The only status spell that has that that I know is Galgalim Eye, which is Almighty-typed.

EDIT 2: Getting full healing+Null Phys on a Persona should be easy, I had that on a lot of mine come endgame, including Trumpeter (AKA he of the null everything on full inheritance). The others may be dicier.
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2009, 07:38:08 PM »
I think it's 50% base, raised to 75% base with Mudo Boost.  HOWEVER!  Status is LUC-based, and level-based.  Alice has...actually high LUC, so it's a bit better.  About 60% against endgame (assuming Mudo Boost - around 40% without).

This doesn't even make sense.  If Alice has good LUC, then Die for Me should be higher than 75% with Mudo Boost, while you're saying it's lower?

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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2009, 08:26:35 PM »
That's taking in to account endgame enemy stats.  That 60% or so is after comparisons to target status resistances (base of 75%).
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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2009, 03:33:45 AM »
World's End is also evadeable, and inflicts status? Granted I might be misunderstanding here.

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Re: Souji Seta vs Godlike
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2009, 09:28:15 PM »
World's End is also evadeable, and inflicts status? Granted I might be misunderstanding here.

It's just an almighty attack with status attached, I believe.  So it checks magic evade.