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Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« on: June 25, 2009, 12:28:53 AM »
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This week!

Gerald- Elwen's underling is the sole entry from RS this season. Can he outslug a couple of ranked fighters?
Ho-Oh- He's better than Odin. Really.
Scias- Does the former Godlike deserve to upgrade once again?



Scias (BoF4) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)
Scias vs Van Grants (TotA)
Scias vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Scias vs Malik Benedict (WA3)
Scias vs Beatrix (FFIX)
Scias vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)
Scias vs Roufas (Saga)
Scias vs Maxim (Lufia 2)
Scias vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)
Scias vs Justin (G1)
Scias vs Cameela (SF2)
Scias vs Soyna Shulen (S1)

Gerald (Radiata Stories) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)
Gerald vs Van Grants (TotA)
Gerald vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Gerald vs Malik Benedict (WA3)
Gerald vs Beatrix (FFIX)
Gerald vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)
Gerald vs Roufas (Saga)
Gerald vs Maxim (Lufia 2)
Gerald vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)
Gerald vs Justin (G1)
Gerald vs Cameela (SF2)
Gerald vs Soyna Shulen (S1)

Ho-Oh (PKMN) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)
Ho-Oh vs Van Grants (TotA)
Ho-Oh vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Ho-Oh vs Malik Benedict (WA3)
Ho-Oh vs Beatrix (FFIX)
Ho-Oh vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)
Ho-Oh vs Roufas (Saga)
Ho-Oh vs Maxim (Lufia 2)
Ho-Oh vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)
Ho-Oh vs Justin (G1)
Ho-Oh vs Cameela (SF2)
Ho-Oh vs Soyna Shulen (S1)
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 01:05:14 AM »
Scias (BoF4) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3) - Darky
Scias vs Van Grants (TotA) - Van
Scias vs Tir McDohl (Suikos) - TcDohl
Scias vs Malik Benedict (WA3) - Malik
Scias vs Beatrix (FFIX) - Bellatrix
Scias vs Chaz Ashley (PS4) - Chaz
Scias vs Roufas (Saga) - Scias
Scias vs Maxim (Lufia 2) - Maxim
Scias vs Zelos Wilder (ToS) - Zelos
Scias vs Justin (G1) - Justin
Scias vs Cameela (SF2) - Cameela
Scias vs Soyna Shulen (S1) - Sonya

Gerald (Radiata Stories) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3) - Darky
Gerald vs Van Grants (TotA) - Van
Gerald vs Tir McDohl (Suikos) - ...what the hell did Gerald do...oh, right.  TcDohl
Gerald vs Malik Benedict (WA3) - Malik
Gerald vs Beatrix (FFIX) - Bellatrix
Gerald vs Chaz Ashley (PS4) - Chaz
Gerald vs Roufas (Saga) - Roufas
Gerald vs Maxim (Lufia 2) - Maxim
Gerald vs Zelos Wilder (ToS) - Zelos
Gerald vs Justin (G1) - Justin
Gerald vs Cameela (SF2) - Cameela
Gerald vs Soyna Shulen (S1) - Sonya

Ho-Oh (PKMN) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3) - Darky
Ho-Oh vs Van Grants (TotA) - Van
Ho-Oh vs Tir McDohl (Suikos) - TcDohl
Ho-Oh vs Malik Benedict (WA3) - Malik
Ho-Oh vs Beatrix (FFIX) - Bellatrix
Ho-Oh vs Chaz Ashley (PS4) - Chaz
Ho-Oh vs Roufas (Saga) - Roufas
Ho-Oh vs Maxim (Lufia 2) - Maxim
Ho-Oh vs Zelos Wilder (ToS) - Zelos
Ho-Oh vs Justin (G1) - Justin
Ho-Oh vs Cameela (SF2) - Cameela
Ho-Oh vs Soyna Shulen (S1) - Sonya
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2009, 01:38:38 AM »
Scias vs Van Grants (TotA)- Limit.
Scias vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)- Scias can't resist dark.
Scias vs Malik Benedict (WA3)- Physical spoiling.
Scias vs Beatrix (FFIX)- Think the threat of sleep (Beatrix has to reflect to stop it) is enough.
Scias vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Leaning this way. Up for arguments.
Scias vs Roufas (Saga)- Deflect fucks up Scias's offense but good. Sleep shouldn't be enough.
Scias vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- Sleep.
Scias vs Justin (G1)- Outlasts.
Scias vs Cameela (SF2)- Scias needs to go first and 2HKO. Don't think he gets both.
Scias vs Soyna Shulen (S1)

Ho-Oh vs Van Grants (TotA)- Too much pressure.
Ho-Oh vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Ho-Oh vs Malik Benedict (WA3)- Safe guard.
Ho-Oh vs Beatrix (FFIX)- Fire resist.
Ho-Oh vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Fire resist.
Ho-Oh vs Roufas (Saga)- Going first is enough.
Ho-Oh vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- Can chip.
Ho-Oh vs Justin (G1)- Think Justin just OHKOs thanks to elemental weaknesses.
Ho-Oh vs Cameela (SF2)- Fire resist.
Ho-Oh vs Soyna Shulen (S1)- Sunny day.


Gerald vs Van Grants (TotA)
Gerald vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Gerald vs Malik Benedict (WA3)
Gerald vs Beatrix (FFIX)
Gerald vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Elemental resists fuck Gerald's offense up.
Gerald vs Roufas (Saga)- Deflect/Awakening should buy Roufas enough time to work his magic.
Gerald vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- chip chip smash.
Gerald vs Justin (G1)- Justin can resist his damage.
Gerald vs Cameela (SF2)- Damage resist.
Gerald vs Soyna Shulen (S1)- Volty blast at worst.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 07:44:39 PM by superaielman »
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 02:43:50 PM »
Ho-Oh vs Van Grants (TotA)
Ho-Oh vs Malik Benedict (WA3)
Ho-Oh vs Beatrix (FFIX)
Ho-Oh vs Zelos Wilder (ToS): Can probably null fire as opposed to just resisting, so he doesn't get burned and Ho-oh has a hard time outdamaging him.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2009, 03:35:55 PM »
Isn't Zelos's damage tanking from having no Last Fencer damage boost? Can Ho-Oh heal and outlast him?
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2009, 04:25:15 PM »
Quote from: superaielman on June 25, 2009, 03:35:55 PM
Isn't Zelos's damage tanking from having no Last Fencer damage boost? Can Ho-Oh heal and outlast him?
I'm figuring cheapo First Aid covers Ho-Oh's damage well enough, and the little boost of Lightning Blades on Zelos' still a tad above average damage probably puts tons of pressure on the bird. Though... not sure if Lightning Blade's whole attack is lightning or if it's just the follow-up bolt, which could probably make a difference.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2009, 06:42:07 PM »
Scias (BoF4) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)
Scias vs Van Grants (TotA)
Scias vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Scias vs Malik Benedict (WA3)
Scias vs Beatrix (FFIX)
Scias vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)
Scias vs Roufas (Saga)
Scias vs Maxim (Lufia 2)
Scias vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)
Scias vs Justin (G1)
Scias vs Cameela (SF2)
Scias vs Soyna Shulen (S1)

8/11

Gerald (Radiata Stories) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)- Toad
Gerald vs Van Grants (TotA)
Gerald vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Gerald vs Malik Benedict (WA3)
Gerald vs Beatrix (FFIX)
Gerald vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)
Gerald vs Roufas (Saga)
Gerald vs Maxim (Lufia 2)
Gerald vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)
Gerald vs Justin (G1)
Gerald vs Cameela (SF2)
Gerald vs Soyna Shulen (S1)

5/11

Ho-Oh (PKMN) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)
Ho-Oh vs Van Grants (TotA)
Ho-Oh vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Ho-Oh vs Malik Benedict (WA3)
Ho-Oh vs Beatrix (FFIX)- *skim* Looks like Beatrix can null fire.  This shoves Ho-Oh into trying to damage manipulate Sky Attack+Future Sight... during which Beatrix just 2HKOs.
Ho-Oh vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Ho-Oh lacks the PP to outslug Chaz's healing, and buffing meets ID.
Ho-Oh vs Roufas (Saga)
Ho-Oh vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- The ol' buff-n-smite.
Ho-Oh vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)- I don't seem to recall ToS nulling elements.  Supposing he does, though, I respect his damage less than Beatrix's under the circumstances.
Ho-Oh vs Justin (G1)- Hm.  Looking at Dhyer's numbers, Thor Cut is higher than I kneejerked.  The damage average is considerably higher however.  Justin needs to OHKO here, and falls short due to Ho-Oh's defense.
Ho-Oh vs Cameela (SF2)- *mutter* I'm like two maps from this fight!!
Ho-Oh vs Soyna Shulen (S1)- Buffing, of course.

5/11
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2009, 06:54:01 PM »
Zelos can drop 4 def for a Star Cap to make sure he nulls it.

Though yeah, if you use anything other than gen 2 Ho-Oh probably wins it, though do note that he halves wind if you see flying = wind.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2009, 10:02:12 AM »
Scias (BoF4) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)- CoD
Scias vs Van Grants (TotA)- Van. Scias can build to some awesome damage, and could OHKO! With Rakshakas.
Scias vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)- Tir
Scias vs Malik Benedict (WA3)- Malik. Unless SB ignores defense.
Scias vs Beatrix (FFIX)- Beatrix
Scias vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Scias
Scias vs Roufas (Saga)- Scias
Scias vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- Scias
Scias vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)- Scias
Scias vs Justin (G1)- Scias
Scias vs Cameela (SF2)- No clue on Cameela’s durability
Scias vs Soyna Shulen (S1)- Scias

Gerald (Radiata Stories) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)- CoD
Gerald vs Van Grants (TotA)- Van
Gerald vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)- Tir
Gerald vs Malik Benedict (WA3)- Malik
Gerald vs Beatrix (FFIX)- Gerald. Beats Boss Beatrix! PC form might win though.
Gerald vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Chaz. ID
Gerald vs Roufas (Saga)- Roufas. ID
Gerald vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- Gerald
Gerald vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)- Zelos
Gerald vs Justin (G1)- Gerald. Justin can resist about 2/5 of Gerald’s damage…but even if Justin optimizes for Wind resistance, Gerald is still going to 2HKO anyways.
Gerald vs Cameela (SF2)- Gerald
Gerald vs Soyna Shulen (S1)- Gerald

Ho-Oh (PKMN) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)- CoD
Ho-Oh vs Van Grants (TotA)- Van
Ho-Oh vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)- Tir
Ho-Oh vs Malik Benedict (WA3)- Ho’oh
Ho-Oh vs Beatrix (FFIX)- Beatrix
Ho-Oh vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Chaz. IDs
Ho-Oh vs Roufas (Saga)- Roufas. IDs
Ho-Oh vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- Ho’oh
Ho-Oh vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)- Zelos
Ho-Oh vs Justin (G1)- Ho’oh. Yep, Thor Cut isn’t quite that good.
Ho-Oh vs Cameela (SF2)- Ho’oh. Cameela just resist Ice.
Ho-Oh vs Soyna Shulen (S1)- Ho’oh

Scias 6-5 (1-5, 5-0)
Gerald 5-7 (1-5, 4-2)
Ho’oh 5-7 (1-5, 4-2)

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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2009, 01:33:26 PM »
Scias (BoF4) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3) - She should 2HKO Scias, which just makes hell on his resources alongside the evade.
Scias vs Van Grants (TotA) - Also 2HKOs Scias and they're closish on speed to boot. Scias barely misses the 2HKO (nearly PC-level HP aside, Van has some defense), but I'm quite unsure if he can chip enough to avoid being OHKOed at some point, and Rakshasa hype just fails (Van isn't even triggering Rakshasa range with his normal damage).
Scias vs Tir McDohl (Suikos) - Rips in half.
Scias vs Malik Benedict (WA3) - Don't think Scias immunes the status.
Scias vs Beatrix (FFIX) - I guess she 2HKOs while sorta avoiding being 2HKOed back and is faster. Close match, though, and Sleep might tilt things.
Scias vs Chaz Ashley (PS4) - Boils down to who's faster. They 2HKO each other, Scias walls the ID, Chaz has enough shots of Crosscut to run Scias out of healing, is my kneejerk.
Scias vs Roufas (Saga) - Gets enough time to play the sleep/healing game, and has quite possibly deep resources alongside being faster.
Scias vs Maxim (Lufia 2) - Chips to that deadly 2HKO, really. Maxim probably doesn't 2HKO (Scias doesn't quite get 2HKOed by average physicals, I think), which gives Scias the time he needs.
Scias vs Justin (G1) - 2HKOs first. Scias damage is quite respectable.
Scias vs Cameela (SF2) - Sooooooo should OHKO.
Scias vs Sonya Shulen (S1) - Sonya's damage woes sorta make this a win for Scias. She keeps up a respectable fight, though.

Ho-Oh (PKMN) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3) - Elemental walling. This match takes a couple years, though.
Ho-Oh vs Van Grants (TotA) - Yeah, my kneejerk was close to the truth enough. Ho-oh opens with Sunny Day, then SWIFT into Recover into his big fire damage = dead like disco Van.
Ho-Oh vs Tir McDohl (Suikos) - Deadly Fingertips.
Ho-Oh vs Malik Benedict (WA3) - Safeguard opening!
Ho-Oh vs Beatrix (FFIX) - Fiercely walls that damage.
Ho-Oh vs Chaz Ashley (PS4) - Chaz can resist Fire! This makes the match a lot closer than it ought to be, but it mostly lets him live long enough for two shots of ID, I think, and that should be enough. If it's not, it's still a good fight, but I think Chaz just has enough odds here.
Ho-Oh vs Roufas (Saga) - Outresources, I think. SaGa physical ID just fails.
Ho-Oh vs Maxim (Lufia 2) - Chipping.
Ho-Oh vs Justin (G1) - 2HKOing first. Justin also 2HKOs with Thor cut, but.
Ho-Oh vs Cameela (SF2) - I'm kneejerking Cameela's physical as fire-elemental, which gives Ho-oh a nice edge. If not, though, good match.
Ho-Oh vs Sonya Shulen (S1) - Can be argued, Sonya stats are nuts.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2009, 12:20:25 AM »
Updating this tomorrow.
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Re: Proving Grounds H/G 5: Eyepatches, more pokemon, and Shining Blades.
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2009, 01:57:26 AM »
Quote from: Dhyerwolf on June 27, 2009, 10:02:12 AM
Scias (BoF4) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)- CoD
Scias vs Van Grants (TotA)- Van. Scias can build to some awesome damage, and could OHKO! With Rakshakas.
Scias vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)- Tir
Scias vs Malik Benedict (WA3)- Malik. Unless SB ignores defense.
Scias vs Beatrix (FFIX)- Beatrix
Scias vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Scias
Scias vs Roufas (Saga)- Scias
Scias vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- Scias
Scias vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)- Scias
Scias vs Justin (G1)- Scias
Scias vs Soyna Shulen (S1)- Scias

Gerald (Radiata Stories) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)- CoD
Gerald vs Van Grants (TotA)- Van
Gerald vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)- Tir
Gerald vs Malik Benedict (WA3)- Malik
Gerald vs Beatrix (FFIX)- Gerald. Beats Boss Beatrix! PC form might win though.
Gerald vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Chaz. ID
Gerald vs Roufas (Saga)- Roufas. ID
Gerald vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- Gerald
Gerald vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)- Zelos
Gerald vs Justin (G1)- Gerald. Justin can resist about 2/5 of Gerald’s damage…but even if Justin optimizes for Wind resistance, Gerald is still going to 2HKO anyways.
Gerald vs Soyna Shulen (S1)- Gerald

Ho-Oh (PKMN) vs Cloud of Darkness (FF3)- CoD
Ho-Oh vs Van Grants (TotA)- Van
Ho-Oh vs Tir McDohl (Suikos)- Tir
Ho-Oh vs Malik Benedict (WA3)- Ho’oh
Ho-Oh vs Beatrix (FFIX)- Beatrix
Ho-Oh vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)- Chaz. IDs
Ho-Oh vs Roufas (Saga)- Roufas. IDs
Ho-Oh vs Maxim (Lufia 2)- Ho’oh
Ho-Oh vs Zelos Wilder (ToS)- Zelos
Ho-Oh vs Justin (G1)- Ho’oh. Yep, Thor Cut isn’t quite that good.
Ho-Oh vs Soyna Shulen (S1)- Ho’oh

This is about where I stand. Removed Cameela's matches as I don't remember that fight at all...
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