I don't think Governor is developing into that great of a roleclaim, because the "we'll never make you prove it" thing, true though it might be, is double-edged. If the ability is so lame that town doesn't want it used
even under town's full control, then what good is it as a defensive roleclaim? Scum might as well claim vanilla for all the good it will do in deferring a lynch based on power alone. Cop, doc, dayvig...these are things town doesn't want to risk losing. Governor? That we can live without.
On Cid himself. He has the "extension is good, therefore support it or you look scummy" logic earlier, which is bad, but not you-die-now bad, to me. Other than that, he's been very defensive, but he's also been a target of choice for most of the game. Alex is right that he was implicitly calling for town to sacrifice its kill (once again: bad idea!), which is more understandable from him than anyone else, if he knows he really can prove the claim, and has the usual excuse for townie self-preservation - as a townie, you know you're town, don't know about anybody else, therefore it's better for town that you not die.
Also, and I know this is a gutclaim and those suck, but Cid felt like scum to me on Day 1 of Touhou. His posts seemed too calculated about the impressions he had, and about who he was casting suspicion on and how much, to be believable as a townie in the dark. I didn't act on it, my gut sucks etc. etc. we've all heard that rant, but it was there. I'm not getting that feeling now. When I decide where to place a final vote for the day this will be a minor thing, but it's there.
Anyhow. As far as how other people look...well, sadly, despite nailing a vile bastard with our first lynch, the scum didn't know what he was any more than the rest of us did, so I don't think there's going to be much to be drawn from people's behavior vis-a-vis Otter's death. He was acting scummy, so townies had a reason to jump on him, and he wasn't part of the scum group, so scum had a reason to jump on him. Woohoo.
I'm most suspicious of the people who leaped to support the Governor-testing with "LOL Day 1" and stuck with it, thanks to the inherent bad logic there and the fact that unlike Cid-as-townie, they
don't have a justifiable reason to be biased toward proving the claim at the expense of a lynch. That means Andrew and Excal. I've already talked this out with Excal a bit; from Andrew:
So, while it doesn't outright clear Cid, it does narrow the potential for what Cid could be. In other words, him demonstrating his power means that instead of there being three potential situations where Cid would be bad for town (anti-town w/ power, anti-town lying, town lying) there is only one case in which he would be bad for town (anti-town w/ power).
As Rat said then, this is baaaad, because it doesn't actually rule anything out, and assuming Cid is telling the truth about his power it depends on metagaming the setup for us to even guess at what we've even learned through the canceled lynch. That's worse logic than anything Excal's used.
I haven't really seen anything else that I can get a read on. Lady Door and Corwin were the most outspoken people who weren't going after Otter, and both of them seemed to be arguing honestly. I'd like to hear more from Ciato and Smodge, and of course the more our latecomers can weigh in, the better.
