Rate the bad guys! (Spoilers, duh.)

[Niu]

Lufia 1:

Nazeby- 1 is there
Gades- 1 is there
Amon- 1 is there
Erim- 2 Lufia is bland
Daos- 1 is there

Lufia 2:

Gades- 1 is there
Idura- 1 is there
Amon- 1 is there
Erim- 5 Iris is actually a better character than Lufia
Daos- 1 is there

Lufia 3:

Gades- 1 is there
Amon- 1 is there
Erim- 3, I'd like to give you better score Seena, but your taste in men is just horrible. Leon would cry if he ever finds out what man your are going out with.
Daos-1 is there

Arek: 2 - He is saved from being a 1 by the sole grace of never doing anything offensive. Of course, he never does -anything- besides ask Erim some questions in the prologue... Who IS this guy?! And why did he have to inspire a million Lufia fanfics?

The guy who banned all the gods away from Estopolis and only allow Sinstrals to be the only gods that can exist there. Also the guy who purposely toss the Dual Blade into human world and start the conflict between humanity and gods.

[Dhyerwolf]

Charlton should be in the top 10 rankings.

No opinion on Lufia rehashes. Not very memorable except one as a joke character in 3.

[SnowFire]

Bah, Kresnik isn't a villain, and how can he be the #1 worst villain?!  He's got a motorcycle and motorcycles are kewl or something.  Style points alone would propel him above Volsung, sounds like.

Lufia 2:

Gades, Amon, Daos - 2/10.  RARGH WE WILL SHOW YOU HUMANS
Idura - 4/10.
Erim - 5/10.  Did not do tons with the plot twist, but interesting enough.

[Bobbin Cranbud]

Lufia 2: The only one of the Lufia games I remember (I played 1 but have essentially no memory of it...).  I actually like the game a lot, both for its PC cast and its gameplay, but the villains... not so much.

Gades: 3/10.  Point for appearing quite a bit for a villain of this era.  Loses a point for going down like a chump every time.
Idura: 4/10.  Style points, loses to Dekar, but there's no shame in losing to Dekar. 
Amon: 3/10.  Inoffensive.
Erim: 6/10.  Didn't really get much in the way of development, because this is before the wake of FF6 really washed over the entire JRPG community; in 1995, developing villains was still something PC adventure games did.  What they tried to do with her was quite interesting and she came out pretty good for her time, and there was nothing WRONG with her portrayal.  There just wasn't enough there.
Daos: 3/10.  Inoffensive.

[Luther Lansfeld]

Lufia 2:

Gades- 1 is there
Idura- 1 is there
Amon- 1 is there
Erim- 5 Iris is actually a better character than Lufia
Daos- 1 is there

[Sierra]

Lufia 2:

Gades/Idura/Amon/Daos: 3/10. They existed. 3/10 is a pretty standard ranking for folks who have nothing interesting going for them but also don't manage to irritate me in any way. I could give Daos a point for YOU LITTLE HOOCHIES, but eh.
Erim: 5/10. Vaguely had a personality? I dunno, it's really been too long for me to remember much here. Average works.

[superaielman]

Lufia 2:

Gades/Idura/Amon/Daos: 3/10. They existed. 3/10 is a pretty standard ranking for folks who have nothing interesting going for them but also don't manage to irritate me in any way. I could give Daos a point for YOU LITTLE HOOCHIES, but eh. EDIT: Daos 4/10 for that line.
Erim: 5/10.  Average works.

[Lurkerson]

Lufia 2:

Gades: 4/10 - He was there.  Get's an extra point for persistence in trying to beat somebody who whooped him without the Dual Blade.
Indura: 7/10 - Yeah, he wasn't the biggest threat out there in the large scale, but he managed to make it personal by threatening the life of Maxim's son.  Sometimes villainy can be found in the small things too, like say, baby-sized things.
Amon: 3/10 - He was there.
Erim: 7/10 - I think this game did a decent job of showing her waver between sides.
Daos: 3/10 - He was there.

[Pyro]

Lufia 1:

Nazeby: 2/10. Purely for "I have the pleasure of sending you...... TO YOUR DOOM!" Camp.
Gades: 1/10. No.
Amon: 1/10. No.
Erim: 5/10. One part tsundere, one part traitor, one part confused goddess of death. It worked for the era.
Daos: 3/10. Gets points for being a total jackass? I dunno.

Lufia 2:

Gades: 3/10. He would be higher if he had never appeared after his first arc.
Idura: 8/10. This guy is a great dastardly villain. He managed to be a recurring villain that was somewhat amusing in his fights with Dekar but was a legitimate threat (almost killed the heroes infant child). The scene where he trapped Dekar in the cage by pretending to surrender and leave really struck me as a magnificent bastard moment. Lots of villainous fun even if he is a minor player.
Amon: 2/10. Like Gades, he just kinda existed. Unlike Gades he got owned by some priestess elfgirl.
Erim: 8/10. Iris/Erim manipulated everyone to serve her own ends. And she did it with a significant amount of style all the way throughout. The ambiguity surrounding what she really felt vs. what emotions she showed makes her a far deeper villain than I thought this game capable of. Also gets points for testing Maxim's commitment to fidelity.
Daos: 3/10. Generic RAR I EAT BABIES villain. What else is there to say.

Lufia 3:

Gades: 4/10. I can't NOT give points for FRUE DESTRUCTION. I'm sorry.
Amon: 4/10. Works as a real scheming bastard for once. I give him  a point for being a solid fight.
Erim: 6/10. Got to give her a point for the most convoluted suicide plot EVER.
Daos: 4/10. The villains are a lot campier when they are more pixelated, it seems.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Arek: 2 - He is saved from being a 1 by the sole grace of never doing anything offensive. Of course, he never does -anything- besides ask Erim some questions in the prologue... Who IS this guy?! And why did he have to inspire a million Lufia fanfics?

The guy who banned all the gods away from Estopolis and only allow Sinstrals to be the only gods that can exist there. Also the guy who purposely toss the Dual Blade into human world and start the conflict between humanity and gods.

Is there any source I can quote to confirm this? There's probably a few Lufia fansites that would be happy to finally have the answer. This information is completely unknown to the American Lufia fanbase (what little of that remains).

[VySaika]

Lufia 2:

Gades/Idura/Amon/Daos: 3/10. They existed. 3/10 is a pretty standard ranking for folks who have nothing interesting going for them but also don't manage to irritate me in any way. I could give Daos a point for YOU LITTLE HOOCHIES, but eh. EDIT: Daos 4/10 for that line.
Erim: 5/10.  Average works.

[Niu]

Arek: 2 - He is saved from being a 1 by the sole grace of never doing anything offensive. Of course, he never does -anything- besides ask Erim some questions in the prologue... Who IS this guy?! And why did he have to inspire a million Lufia fanfics?

The guy who banned all the gods away from Estopolis and only allow Sinstrals to be the only gods that can exist there. Also the guy who purposely toss the Dual Blade into human world and start the conflict between humanity and gods.

Is there any source I can quote to confirm this? There's probably a few Lufia fansites that would be happy to finally have the answer. This information is completely unknown to the American Lufia fanbase (what little of that remains).

It'll be hard to locate them now. But Lufia 2 basically hinted more or less at what I said if you look closely enough. Though, there is not a single clue on Arekdias's motive, Erim probably knows but she isn't telling anyone... well there might be some clue if you treat Energy Breaker as a part of Estopolis continuity (which I do). In which case, Orleas and Selufia's actions can be epxlained as something tolerated by Arekdias and thus explain some of his motive. It hints a lot more if Selufia is indeed Erim.

[Dunefar]

This'll be updated in a few days, probably Friday. Get your votes in now!

[Meeplelard]

Lufia 1:

Nazeby: 1/10.  Scores below 3/10 are reserved for those who stand out as being really bad *OR* if you're so god damn forgettable I can't even remember who the fuck you are.  Nazeby falls under the latter, in such a way that I don't even recognize the name.
Gades: 3/10. Was there.
Amon: 3/10. Was there.
Erim: 3/10. Was there.
Daos: 3/10. Was there.

...I know I'm quoting people, but whatever.

Lufia 2:

Gades: 3/10. Hey, he was threatening for about 20 minutes! ...then you kick his ass, thus he loses all points.
Idura: 5/10. Worked for a henchman, being a persistent jack ass, but not much else.
Amon: 3/10. see Gades or something
Erim: 5/10.  Yeah, I'll give her points for the Iris thing.
Daos: 4/10.  See Gades/Amon, +1 points for "You Hoochies!" line though.

Lufia 3:

Gades: 4/10. See L2 Gades, +1 point for FRUE DESTRUCTION.
Amon: 3/10. See L2 Amon!
Erim: 3/10.  The Seena stuff felt completely forced and bullshit, unlike Iris where there were allusions early on that there was something up with her.
Daos: 5.5/10.  He deserves points just for being so amazingly hamtastic in this game, what with the whole "I'm mojo jojo!" aspect.  Ranting on about killing a monster, and how its going to cause Terror, when he just saved people, then killing the guy...while ranting...and continuing the rant...yeah, it made me laugh.  This is not something a villain like him should be doing, but fuck, its Lufia villains, if they don't get points there, I don't know where they're getting points.

[Dunefar]

Okay, that's it! Results coming soon.

[Dunefar]

Results!

Lufia 1:

Nazeby: DNR. (1.40, 5 rankers.)
Gades: 2.87, 8 rankers.
Amon: 2.00, 8 rankers.
Erim: 4.25, 8 rankers.
Daos: 2.31, 8 rankers.

Lufia 2:

Gades: 3.00, 15rankers.
Idura: 4.00, 15 rankers.
Amon: 2.26, 15 rankers.
Erim:  5.66, 15 rankers.
Daos: 2.66, 15 rankers.

Lufia 3:

Gades: 3.50, 4 rankers.
Amon: 3.00, 4 rankers.
Erim: 4.50, 4 rankers.
Daos: 3.62, 4 rankers.

[Dunefar]

Top ten highest ranked villains:
1. Delita(FFT): 9.04, 12 rankers. (3 DNR)
2. Irving Vold Valeria(WA2): 9.00, 16 rankers.
3. Dycedarg(FFT): 7.86, 15 rankers.
4. Charlton(WAXF): 7.82, 11 rankers. (Thanks Dhyer!)
5. Bangaa(FFTA2): 7.66, 3 rankers.
6. Jecht(FFX): 7.30, 15 rankers. (3 DNR)
7. Katrina: 7.22, 9 rankers. (1 DNR)
8. Reno(FF7):  7.21, 21 rankers.
9. Liz: 7.04, 12 rankers.
10. Rufus(FF7): 6.97, 21 rankers.

Top ten lowest ranked villains
1. Kresnik: 1.47, 13 rankers. (6 DNR)
2. Volsung: 1.64, 14 rankers. (1 DNR)
3. Zemus/Zeromus(FF4): 1.88, 17 rankers.
4. Amon(Lufia 1): 2.00, 8 rankers.
5. Necron(FF9): 2.13, 22 rankers.
6. Amon(Lufia 2): 2.26, 15 rankers.
7. Daos(Lufia 1): 2.31, 8 rankers.
8. Adel(FF8): 2.33, 18 rankers. (1 DNR)
9. Mewt(FFTA): 2.44, 9 rankers.
10. Congressional Knights: 2.47, 16 rankers. (2 DNR)

Victims of Fate:

Baigan: DNR (2.2, 10 voters.)
Jenova: DNR (3.00, 12 rankers.)
Edea: DNR (4.8, 10 rankers.)
Beatrix: DNR (5.83, 10 rankers.)
Golagros: DNR (4.5, 6 rankers.)
Bart: DNR (3.2, 5 rankers.)
Celia: DNR (4.00, 7 rankers.)
Lede: DNR. (4.28, 7 rankers.)
High Priest Funeral: DNR (3.66, 6 rankers.)
Kletian: DNR (3.42, 7 rankers.)
Cid: DNR. (4.00, 3 rankers.)
Neukhia: DNR. (4.00, 2 rankers.)
Luceid: DNR. (2.25, 12 rankers.)
Nazeby: DNR. (1.40, 5 rankers.)

Victims of really sucking:

Kain(1.0, 1 vote)
Tunnel Armor(10, 1 vote)
Yuffie(4.0, 1 vote)
The Occuria(5.33, 3 votes)
Dycedarg's Elder Brother(10.00, 1 vote.)
Professor Daravon(10.00, 1 vote.)
Marche(10.00, 1 vote.)
Fiore and Asia: (2.00, 3 votes.)
Hauser: (2.50, 4 votes.)
WA5 Writers: (10.00, 2 votes.)
Ice Queen Avril: (8.00, 1 vote.)
Arek(2.00, 1 vote.)
Egg Dragon(2.00, 1 vote.)

Games ranked:

FF1, FF2, FF3, FF4, FF5, FF6, FF7, FF8, FF9, FF10, FF12, FFT, FFTA, FFTA2, WA1, WA2, WA3, WA4, WA5, WA:XF, Lufia 1, Lufia 2, Lufia 3.

Yeah, Lufia wasn't a great rating category. Oh well. Let's move along and pretend it never happened! I'm also going to skip Lufia 4 since I think that may get like 2 voters total. Moving along, let's move onto the granddady of RPG series! I'm going to do more than three this week since it's such a damned small rank until like DW4.

Dragon Warrior 1:

DragonLord

Dragon Warrior 2:

Hargon
Malroth

Dragon Warrior 3:

Kandar
Baramos
Zoma

Dragon Warrior 4:

Saro's Shadow
Balzack
Keeleon
Necrosaro

[Dunefar]

Dragon Warrior 1:

DragonLord: 5/10. He gets points for trying to get you to voluntarily game-over.

Dragon Warrior 3:

Kandar: 2/10. Loser.
Baramos: 4/10.
Zoma: 3/10.

Dragon Warrior 4:

Saro's Shadow: 2/10. Kidnaps kids. Gets a point for the flying shoes.
Balzack: 5/10. Bastardly.
Keeleon: 3/10.
Necrosaro: 8/10. Dicked over by bad circumstances and bad choices.

[Ultradude]

Dragon Warrior 3:

Kandar 1/10 Some angry guy.
Baramos 3/10 Some demon guy. Kind of sort of intimidating.
Zoma 3/10 Baramos v2.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Saro's Shadow: 2/10. He uh kidnaps children.
Balzack: 4/10. He's okay I suppose. Does some really nasty things.
Keeleon: 3/10. Bad, stupid, unexplained case of possession, but gets one point for the cheesy French accent in the remake.
Necrosaro: 2/10. Sucks. EVOLVES or something. The subplot with that elf girl was pitifully underexplained and stupid anyway.

Replaying the game reminded me how bad this game's plot was.

[Random Consonant]

Dragon Warrior 4:

Saro's Shadow - DNR (1/10), mook who kidnaps children.  How exciting.
Balzack - EVOLUTION WITHOUT LIMITATION.  Oh, and he kills a guy and takes over a castle.  Yay.  2/10
Keeleon - The possession thing was really, really dumb.  1/10
Necrosaro - Yeah, the "idiot who makes bad choices and is dicked over by circumstances" puts him ahead of ye standard NES villain.  5/10

[DjinnAndTonic]

Necrosaro: 6.5 - Enjoyed him overall. He... has a lot of angsty prettyboy qualities, but for some reason, I don't really associate him with that cliche. He fits plenty of other cliches, but I think he manages a nice middle ground between them as a villain and (especially in the remake) tragic hero. Not great, but the best you get from NES-age RPGs.

Others: DNR. When you're less memorable than Lufia villains, it's time to drop out.

[SnowFire]

Dragon Warrior 1:

DragonLord - 4/10?  The instruction manual made him out to be the one unhappy guy in the kingdom of sunny awesomeness, but one unhappy guy was enough when he finds the orb of controlling dragons.  Then you fight him and...  he turns into his true form, a dragon?  Then he never was an unhappy guy to begin with.  Bah.  Minor NES-credit for the "Join me!" question, granted.

Dragon Warrior 2:

Hargon - 2/10 DNR, generic evil dude with illusions or something.
Malroth - 2/10 DNR, generic evil dude.

Did DW2 even assign any direct villainy for the opening sack of Moonbrooke, the one bad thing the villains do in the game?  I seem to recall it was just monsters busy cackling about how they're totally gonna conquer the world.

Dragon Warrior 3:

Kandar - DNR, is bad man.
Baramos - 2/10, is bad but SURPRISE there's another bad guy.
Zoma - 2/10, is bad and decides to MAGICALLY ANNOUNCE TO THE THRONE ROOM after you beat Baramos "Bwahaha!  I'm bad too!  Come beat me up!"  Yet does nothing actually bad to the main world of DW3.  Classic villainy...  in the "stupid" sense of classic.

Dragon Warrior 4:

Saro's Shadow - DNR, is random monster henchman of Saro who gets the credit for the Chapter 1 plot.
Balzack - 5/10, sure, he actually does evil things.
Keeleon - 3/10, more generic bad guy.
Necrosaro - 6/10 A good villain for the era.  Has a sympathetic reason for going crazy, has a solid plan...  good stuff.

Good call leaving Esturk out, he's basically a plot device.  Radimvice... doesn't he get more plot in the remake?  The plot's interesting as is, changing it from a "folly of humankind's greed" a la Aktemto the badness of one monster, but so it goes.

[Dunefar]

Giving this the ol' college bump!

[Dark Holy Elf]

Radimvice/Aamon's plot is exactly the same in both the remake and the original. That is probably one of the only cool things about DQ4's plot, that a random underling stabs the big bad in the back in order to make him MORE EVIL.

I remain baffled by Psaro hype in general. The above plot twist would have been cool... but the problem is it didn't actually change him. He was always "blargh humans, yay monsters!" (see: hunting down Sofia, ensuring Esturk's resurrection so he could destroy humans and let monsters reign supreme, etc.). I guess the Necrosaro transformation made him MORE EVIL but he was always out to kick puny human ass, just now he's uglier. This is highly uninteresting, and static despite seeming otherwise. Basically he does absolutely nothing and some of his non-actions (why does he participate in the Endor tourney? Why does he drop out?) are not explained, so overall the character, like the game's plot in general, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Don't really think that's good for the era.