Rate the bad guys! (Spoilers, duh.)

[Random Consonant]

Fire Emblem 1/3/11: Dragon of Darkness and Sword of Light / Mystery of the Emblem / Shadow Dragon

Minerva - DNR, see Snowfire.
Camus - (FE)1/10
Michalis - (FE)1/10
Gharnef - (FE)1/10
Medeus - (FE)1/10

Fire Emblem 6: Sword of Seals

Narshen: Exists to be owned, but succeeds at actually existing.  2/10
Murdoch: Rar loyalty.  2/10
Brunya: Wants in Zephiel's pants?  I dunno, it's been a while.  2/10
Zephiel: Luca Blight trading raw bloodthirst for a somewhat better reason to go nutso.  Works well enough for FE, I suppose.  4/10
Yahn: Who?
Idoun: Meh.  2/10.

Fire Emblem 7: The Blazing Sword

Batta - You have Batta here but not Glass, whose name is feared by the gods, Djinn?  FOR SHAME.  At any rate, amusing for a FE boss, but waaaaaaay too minor to seriously care about.  DNR (1/10).
Lundgren - LOOK AT ME I AM EVIL AND WANT THE THRONE.  1/10, come back when you're less boring.
Linus/Lloyd - The Reed brothers were kinda cool I guess?  They did have a degree of sympathy going on but eh.  4/10.
Ursula - Ursula was just boring, on the other hand.  1/10
Jaffar - Rar I am heartless killer wait must protect innocent little girl argh.  Meh, 2/10.
Brendon - More or less exists solely as Sonia's plaything.  Meeeeh.  Pass.
Jerme - DNR (1/10).  He's there and you hit him.  Also, you forgot Kenneth.
Sonia - Whee evil slut.  3/10.  Needed more screentime to be effective.
Limstella - Puppets have no quintessence.  1/10
Ephidel - Meeeeeh.  1/10
Nergal - Cartoon villain.  1/10.
Dragon - DNR.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Man, I get that FE villains aren't great, but throwing 1/10s around like that is pretty low, considering that there's no 0/10 option, and not even Necron was ranked below 2. Are the FE villains -really- worse than Necron?

[SnowFire]

Djinn: Minor note, but you don't need to have so many decimal points in your scores.  Frankly anything after the first (tenths) decimal place is likely noise anyway, with the low number of votes, so 2 places should be more than sufficient.

True, but I'm just copy/pasting it from my big ol' spreadsheet of fun and truancating it is extra work.

You need better spreadsheet-fu.  Use ROUND(NUMBER, 2).  If you can't add that to the equation itself, you can just make a new row / column, and then drag the formula along to automatically add it everywhere.

Edit: And Djinn, presumably RC starts with "characters start a 1 and get better with more characterization."  Which is a fair enough stance if he's consistently voted this way and dislikes characters without character.  (I personally am more your style though, characters start out with about a 5/10 and have to annoy or offend me to push their score lower.)

[Random Consonant]

Yeah, what Snowfire said.  Don't really see a reason to go middle-of-the-road for people who barely exist/have bad characterizations/have crap for motivation/whatever.  I make an exception for joke villains but by and large this is pretty much how I've rated villains throughout the topic, so I dunno why you've decided to harp on it now.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Djinn: Minor note, but you don't need to have so many decimal points in your scores.  Frankly anything after the first (tenths) decimal place is likely noise anyway, with the low number of votes, so 2 places should be more than sufficient.

True, but I'm just copy/pasting it from my big ol' spreadsheet of fun and truancating it is extra work.

You need better spreadsheet-fu.  Use ROUND(NUMBER, 2).  If you can't add that to the equation itself, you can just make a new row / column, and then drag the formula along to automatically add it everywhere.

Edit: And Djinn, presumably RC starts with "characters start a 1 and get better with more characterization."  Which is a fair enough stance if he's consistently voted this way and dislikes characters without character.  (I personally am more your style though, characters start out with about a 5/10 and have to annoy or offend me to push their score lower.)

Meh, still more work and it doesn't hurt anything as is.

Yeah, what Snowfire said.  Don't really see a reason to go middle-of-the-road for people who barely exist/have bad characterizations/have crap for motivation/whatever.  I make an exception for joke villains but by and large this is pretty much how I've rated villains throughout the topic, so I dunno why you've decided to harp on it now.

Not harping, sorry if it came out that way. It just struck me since it was nothing but ones. When you see a whole game with nothing but ones, it triggers a 'what, was he just christmas-tree-ing the test?' reaction. I have no problem with how you vote, it just seemed worth asking about.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Adding a few FE6 ones, since FE6 plot > FE7 plot and all. Everyone before Zeph is a write-in.

Fire Emblem 6: Sword of Seals

Narshen: 6/10. He has that beautiful scene where he sets up his underling to get owned in Chapter 13, and otherwise is just a reasonably fun scumbag.
Murdoch: 3/10. Rar I am loyal. He is likable enough but yeah.
Brenya: 3/10. Different angle from Murdoch at least, but ultimately similar.
Zephiel: 8/10. Probably my favourite FE villain. His motives are pretty insane, but I really bought into how he came to them. His Dad was a real bastard. And it's not just a one-shot "he did something horrible once" which RPGs usually fall back on (hi, Agares) but a systematic emotional abuse of the child Zephiel. Put that together with his country's history, and boom, you have someone who wants to reverse past racial injustices because of his terrible experience with humanity. It works.
Yahn: 2/10. Ugh. Didn't like how the game tried to randomly make him a focus for one chapter.
Idoun: 4/10. Kinda like the plot surrounding her, but needed better execution (also a badass boss fight).

Fire Emblem 7: The Blazing Sword

Batta: DNR, but awesome.
Lundgren: 4/10. Reasonably convincing scumbag. He just had so much... presence, for his 10 chapters. Most FE villains don't get nearly that much.
Linus: 1/10.
Lloyd: 2/10. The Reed brothers are weeeeiiiird. The first one is fine. The second one is a miserable failure of a human being whom the game seems to try to glorify anyway. Depending on which route you do, "second one" varies, but yeah. I will give Lloyd +1 for having style, and because I think the game works better if Linus is the second one anyway - it fits the one-cutscene personalities the two have before the split better.
Ursula: 4/10. At least somewhat intimidiating even as she does the lapdog thing.
Jaffar: 2/10. Blargh.
Brendon: DNR.
Jerme: DNR. Plotless midboss.
Sonia: 3/10. Pretty mockable I guess, but... eh.
Limstella: 6/10. Style points. I will be generous here.
Ephidel: 5/10. He was pretty effective, and had an unexpected exit.
Nergal: 1/10. Grah. Terrible cartoon villain, basically prevented the game from having a good plot, not that it would have anyway.
Dragon: No. (DNR)

Write-in: Darin: Because he has more plot than the Black Fang members at least. 5/10, his RULER OF THE WORLD insanity was amusing.

[Ultradude]

Fire Emblem 6: Sword of Seals

Narshen (write-in): 5/10
Zephiel: 6/10
Yahn: 2/10
Idoun: 3/10

Fire Emblem 7: The Blazing Sword

Batta DNR
Lundgren: 6/10
Linus: 2/10
Lloyd: 4/10
Ursula: 3/10
Jaffar: 5/10
Brendon DNR
Jerme DNR
Sonia: 4/10
Limstella: 5/10
Ephidel: 6/10
Nergal: 4/10
Dragon DNR

[Taishyr]

Pretty much stealing NEB's votes, but slightly modifying his (downward).


Fire Emblem 7: The Blazing Sword

Batta: DNR, but awesome.
Lundgren: 4/10.
Linus: 1/10.
Lloyd: 2/10.
Ursula: 3/10.
Jaffar: 2/10.
Brendon: DNR.
Jerme: DNR.
Sonia: 3/10.
Limstella: 3/10.
Ephidel: 4/10.
Nergal: 1/10.
Dragon: No. (DNR)

[Rozalia]

Fire Emblem 1 Shadow Dragon

Minerva- Not a villain
Camus - Not a Villain 1/10 if you must though as he is an idiot unlike Minerva.
Michalis - 3/10 kills father for power and forces his sister Minerva to fight by taking his other sister Maria hostage. True Grust were the ones who had Maria but him and Grust were allies and would Grust have been able to if not for Michalis, I think not. Liked the whole "Your arrows cannot harm me" thing, but sadly doesn't deserve anything above 3.
Gharnef - 6/10 - Old man mage who is evil and does evil shit, well thats not generic at all is it. Well anyway I'll give him a 6 for the simple fact he is the only villain who does anything at all. The others sit on thrones doing nothing.
Medeus - 1/10 Is a Villain who does nothing. Really why was he even in the game? Gharnef should have been the final boss, but I guess Fire Emblem Old man does evil shit would have been a bad title name.

Write ins:
Morzas - 2/10 Kills your mother and boasts about it. Better then his boss.
King Jiol - 5/10 - "I don't want to die!" Has two scenes and this is more then 99% of people in game, giving him a 5 for how pathetic he is after mocking you so much. Also mocks pegasus knights.
Volzhin - 2/10 Writhe in the fires of baloney. Made me laugh and is better then his boss.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Updating this tomorrow, I guess.

Oh hey, I have votes!

Fire Emblem 1/3/11: Dragon of Darkness and Sword of Light / Mystery of the Emblem / Shadow Dragon

Minerva - 4/10, though I guess DNR. I didn't really feel she was a villain either, but there's so few things in FE1 that are villainy and have faces.
Camus - 5.5/10 Remake version wins award for most-improved character worth. Still not great, but I appreciated the extra lines.
Michalis - 4/10 Not mind-controlled or duped, just looking out for his country's interests. Though he's kind of a bastard about it. Minerva-brother thing was at least resembling development.
Gharnef - 2.5/10 He's the villain that does everything, but he's just even less interesting than the faceless generals and kings. Nergal-light.
Medeus - 4/10 He's a scary dragon. I like scary dragons.

Fire Emblem 6: Sword of Seals

Zephiel - 8/10 See NEB.
Yahn - 5/10 I liked his chapter, it was nice to see the plot finally escalating and Yahn felt like a credible threat.
Idoun - 6/10 Similar to Yahn, only has a cooler backstory.

Fire Emblem 7: The Blazing Sword

Batta - 5/THE BEAST
Lundgren - 5.5/10 I felt his actions made sense, and the way he was presented really made Lyn's chapter into a tight and focused narrative. Not great, but above-average for the whole package of the presentation.
Linus - 4/10
Lloyd - 4/10
Ursula - 3/10
Jaffar - 4.5/10
Brendon - 3.5/10 I liked his creepy mind-controlled scenes.
Jerme - AWESOME/10, DNR.
Sonia - 6/10 Played her archetype well. Scenes with Nino really worked in making FE7 actually feel a little creepy. Manipulating Brendon was a nice touch, and it worked surprisingly well.
Limstella - 4.5/10 Scary enough.
Ephidel - 3/10 Not present enough.
Nergal - 4/10 Really cartoony villain, but I always liked the fact that he -had- a backstory. The way the game decided to hide it actually made it all the more memorable to me, so even though it was a campy backstory, it was fun to see it.
Dragon - 4/10 He's a scary dragon. I like scary dragons.

[DjinnAndTonic]

And Results! Feel free to keep voting on this. I'll record your voice on my big ol' spreadsheet of fun.

Fire Emblem 1/3/11: Dragon of Darkness and Sword of Light / Mystery of the Emblem / Shadow Dragon         

Minerva   4.5   (2 rankers,   3 DNR)
Camus   2.375   (4 rankers)   
Michalis   2.75   (4 rankers)   
Gharnef   2.875   (4 rankers)   
Medeus   2   (3 rankers)   

Fire Emblem 6: Sword of Seals         

Narshen   4.333333333   (3 rankers)   
Murdoch   2.5   (2 rankers)   
Brunya   2.5   (2 rankers)   
Zephiel   6.5   (4 rankers)   
Yahn   3   (3 rankers)   
Idoun   3.75   (4 rankers)   

Fire Emblem 7: The Blazing Sword         

Batta   3   (2 rankers,   4 DNR)
Lundgren   4.416666667   (6 rankers)   
Linus   2.833333333   (6 rankers)   
Lloyd   3.5   (6 rankers)   
Ursula   3.166666667   (6 rankers)   
Jaffar   3.583333333   (6 rankers)   
Brendon   4.25   (2 rankers,   3 DNR)
Jerme   3   (2 rankers,   5 DNR)
Sonia   4.333333333   (6 rankers)   
Limstella   4.083333333   (6 rankers)   
Ephidel   3.8   (5 rankers,   1 DNR)
Nergal   2.333333333   (6 rankers)   
Dragon   4   (1 ranker,   5 DNR)

[DjinnAndTonic]

Top ten highest ranked villains:
1. Delita(FFT): 9.04, 12 rankers. (3 DNR)
2. Irving Vold Valeria(WA2): 9.00, 16 rankers.
3. Dycedarg(FFT): 7.86, 15 rankers.
4. Charlton(WAXF): 7.82, 11 rankers.
5. Magus(CT): 7.75, 12 rankers. (1 DNR)
6. Bangaa(FFTA2): 7.66, 3 rankers.
7. Jecht(FFX): 7.30, 15 rankers. (3 DNR)
8. Katrina: 7.22, 9 rankers. (1 DNR)
9. Reno(FF7):  7.21, 21 rankers.
10. Ghaleon(Lunar1): 7.11, 9 rankers.

Top ten lowest ranked villains
1. Kresnik(WA4): 1.47, 13 rankers. (6 DNR)
2. Volsung(WA5): 1.64, 14 rankers. (1 DNR)
3. Time Devourer(CC): 1.875, 8 rankers.
4. Zemus/Zeromus(FF4): 1.88, 17 rankers.
5. Amon(Lufia 1): 2.00, 8 rankers.
6. Medeus (FE11): 2.00, 3 rankers.
7. Lunn(Lunar2): 2.11, 9 rankers.
8. Necron(FF9): 2.13, 22 rankers.
9. Zoma (DW3/DQ3): 2.25, 4 rankers.
10. Amon(Lufia 2): 2.26, 15 rankers.
11. Daos(Lufia 1): 2.31, 8 rankers.

Games ranked:

FF1, FF2, FF3, FF4, FF5, FF6, FF7, FF8, FF9, FF10, FF12, FFT, FFTA, FFTA2, WA1, WA2, WA3, WA4, WA5, WA:XF, Lufia 1, Lufia 2, Lufia 3, DW1, DW2, DW3, DW4/DQ4, Lunar1, Lunar2, CT, CC, FE11, FE6, FE7.


Next is FE8, FE9, and FE10.

Who should we be voting on? Suggestions please.

[Dark Holy Elf]

FE8:

Glen
Selena
Valter
Caellech
Riev
Lyon
Fomortiis

Glen may not be villainous enough, he never actively antagonises you.

FE9:

Oliver
Petrine
Black Knight
Bryce
Ashnard

FE10:

Jarod
Ludveck
Valtome
Izuka
Lekain
Levail
Zelgius
Dheginsea
Sephiran
Ashera

[DjinnAndTonic]

This list works for me! Voting lasts a week.

Feel free to send me any votes from the previous session, too, and I'll add them to the spreadsheet. I know that with the mini-meet, maybe less people had a chance to vote.

[Luther Lansfeld]

FE8:

Glen- 8/10. Too sexy for your shirt.
Selena- 5/10
Valter- 7/10. Luca+
Caellech- 6/10. Awesome name point.
Riev- 2/10. Fails.
Lyon- 10/10. KAWAII!!!
Fomortiis- 0/10. Fails.

FE9:

Oliver- 7/10. Deliciously creepy.
Petrine- 1/10
Black Knight- 3/10
Bryce- DNR
Ashnard- 1/10

FE10:

Jarod- 7/10.
Ludveck- dnr
Valtome- 5/10- Delightfully evil
Izuka- 6/10- Delightfully evil
Lekain- 8.5/10- Delightfully evil
Levail- DNR
Zelgius- 2/10
Dheginsea- 1/10
Sephiran- 1/10
Ashera- no rank.

[Random Consonant]

FE8:

Glen - DNR.  He gets... three scenes I think and his last two are when he considers defecting so... yeah.
Selena - rar my country right or wrong.  Fuck.  Off.  1/10.
Valter - Baby eating loon.  Also about as effective as Judecca.  Fail forever, Valter you god damn pansy.  1/10.
Caellech - Barely existed.  1/10.
Riev - Sucks, but fails less at existing.  2/10.
Lyon - DNR.  Possession blah blah blah.
Fomortiis - Sucks.  1/10.

[Bardiche]

FE8:

Glen - Who? Oh, right, the guy that gets killed... needlessly. Good job! 1/10
Selena - Dame Fluorspar. Eh, I like her but as a villain...? I don't think she really was one, she was just an enemy but one that cared for the people blah blah 3/10
Valter - Hurt Jaegan. This is not a particular feat. Still, 2/10. 1 point for attempting to be badarse, fails for never ascending "crazy killer" status.
Caellech - HURR MY AXE SELL WAIT WHAT MY PLOT IS? 1/10
Riev - Competent. 3/10
Lyon - Yeahwhat? DNR
Fomortiis - Spaceflea status. 2/10

Fire Emblem 8 produced a lot of things, but noteworthy villains it did not produce. Nergal would beat all of them together!

[Ultradude]

FE8:

Glen - DNR
Selena - 3/10
Valter - 6/10
Caellech - 2/10
Riev - 4/10
Lyon - 6/10
Fomortiis - 5/10

FE9:

Oliver - 6/10
Petrine - 4/10
Black Knight - 4/10
Bryce - 3/10
Ashnard - 5/10

FE10:

Jarod - 7/10
Ludveck - 6/10
Valtome - 4/10
Izuka - 5/10
Lekain - 7/10
Levail - DNR
Zelgius - 5/10
Dheginsea - 2/10
Sephiran - 4/10
Ashera - 5/10

[Dark Holy Elf]

FE8:

Glen: Pass
Selena: 2/10. I don't think this was a particularly well-executed version of this trope at all. RAR POINTLESS DEATH FOR HONOUR. Still I like to save my 1's more than Random. <_<
Valter: 7/10. Found him genuinely creepy.
Caellech: 5/10. Had a couple of memorable scenes.
Riev: 3/10. Generically fails.
Lyon: 7/10. I dunno. I have some issues with him, and think he is kinda worthless without playing both paths to see the different sides of him... but well, I did, and I think he ends up a pretty interesting case of possession. It's fun to see him wrestle with the Demon King and it's often unclear who is manipulating who. And you have to feel sorry for the guy.
Fomortiis: Mmmmph. Like how he's tied up with Lyon, but I'm more inclined to rate him as a standalone entity, Rhapthorne style, which makes him suck. Yes, think I will do that. 2/10, eats babies.

FE9:

Oliver: 7/10. Can the world live without his beauty? Stock comedy villain score, bonus points for decent music.
Petrine: 3/10. Would be a 2, but +1 for making the heartless, unredeemable evil general of the four the girl. I think this is about the only game that has done that, ever.
Black Knight: 3/10. Exists, but his Ike plot is kinda stupid.
Bryce: 4/10. Brings about Ashnard's only good scene, that's gotta be something.
Ashnard: 2/10. Sadly Ashnard has a bunch of other scenes and they're pretty much uniformly terrible. His motive is painfully bad, his leadership a joke, and the game excuses him getting away with it because he's THAT DAMN BADASS.

FE10:

Jarod: Okay, time for a rant. RPG villains (besides the comedy type) tend to one of two things: they hench for a bigger bad, or they have grand plans which are, at bare minimum, involve controlling a country (often controlling and/or destroying the world instead). Seriously, I was thinking about this recently, and the exceptions are just way too rare. Jarod is one of the exceptions. He's a soldier and he doesn't take shit from his commanders, but nor does he have any ridiculous, stupid dreams. He doesn't want to be a king or anything ludicrous. He wants to keep living the good life of a soldier. He's a bad man; he pretty much stands in for the bad things soldiers can do. Yet he's pretty real, and the human side of him shines through, and made me care about him even as he inevitably reached his hopeless end. Gives a good last speech, and 1-E is a hell of a fight. 7/10.
Ludveck: Prettyboy political schemer. I kinda liked that he made Elincia firm up her backbone, he's kinda like Marscal Lite in that he knew his actions would give Crimea a stronger ruler either way. 5/10.
Valtome: Ehehehehheehehehehhee. He is creepy and effective enough, but needed a bit more time. I don't really like how he disappears then only returns for a throwaway fight. This is a bad habit the game had, for any villain who made it to part 4. 4/10.
Izuka: I AM EVIL. 5/10 for not being remotely subtle about it and his insane rants being pretty funny. God, what a worthless human being.
Lekain: 7/10. Delightfully evil indeed. They were trying to make him the most wretched human being imaginable. They don't really shy from anything, he is a composite of dozens of horrible traits, willing to do anything to get his power.
Levail: Yeah, DNR. He actually has a fair bit of screentime but he doesn't really do much with it. Besides be pretty and give you a sweet weapon.
Zelgius: 6/10. Much better this game, but still wanted a bit more. His motivations surrounding his Greil obsession and his loyalty to Sephiran become far clearer and more fleshed out. FE9-10 sometimes wave the branded label around without really doing much with it; Zelgius' case made it hit home.
Dheginsea: 2/10. GOLDOA WILL NOT MOVE. The bad voice acting is hilarious, but as a character, failure.
Sephiran: 5/10. The dude's a bit messed up. They didn't quite sell me on his motivations, but they weren't too far from it. Better than Ashnard at least.
Ashera: 4/10. A bit problematic as a messed up avatar of order. Ideas were better than the execution.

Outside a few specific scenes (Zelgius backstory and Lekain's revelling in his evil in particular), Part 4 could have been better written. Nice ideas at least.

[Scar]

I'm in a post-happy mood today. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

FE8:

Glen  - DNR
Selena - 3
Valter - 7 (works as an evil bastard.)
Caellech - 5 (At least he looked evil, or sick. Still Worked.)
Riev - 4
Lyon - 0? (Was Lyon evil or was he controlled? Can't remember.)
Fomortiis - 7? (Again this is based on just how evil Lyon really was.)

FE9:

Oliver - 8 (Creepy)
Petrine - 4
Black Knight - 10 (Works better when you include hm from both games.)
Bryce - 1 (Don't reemmber him.)
Ashnard - 5

FE10:

Jarod - 8 (Wish more of the games baddies were as well done as him.)
Ludveck - 2
Valtome - 3
Izuka - 4
Lekain - 3
Levail - 2
Zelgius - 10 (Should have killed more people.)
Dheginsea - 1
Sephiran - 3
Ashera - 2

[SnowFire]

FE8:

Glen - DNR
Selena - 2/10.  One of the more frustrating villainous types.  I'd have been fine with "No!  Vigarde's fine, he's the man, he's just in a funny mood!"  Selena says she *knows* that Vigarde isn't Vigarde anymore, but loyalty for some reason compels her to follow him.  Wouldn't loyalty to the real Vigarde imply the reverse?  This is dumb and the plot doesn't seem to realize this.
Valter - 5/10.  Eats babies, sure, but decent presence points.
Caellech - 6/10 - His little backstory chat with Joshua was pretty amusing.  Ambitious but not exactly malicious guy, works for me.
Riev - 4/10.  Generic McGeneric fallen priest.
Lyon - 5/10.  The story needed to figure out what the heck it was doing with Lyon.  The amount of muddling they do on this makes "is mostly possessed but can sorta fight back and is possessed in a style that is Lyon's" is I guess what we fall back on, but meh.  Saved from a 3/10 by his rivalry with Ephraim, where Ephraim was always better than him and he vowed to change that.  (And failed, with Ephraim killing him in the end anyway).  This was less creepy than his "I've always loved you from afar!" deal with Eirika which doesn't fit terribly well, I feel.
Fomortiis - DNR / 5/10?  Generic baby-eater with passable presence.

FE9:

Oliver - 6/10.  Amusingly pathetic, but maybe they went a little too far.  I was never clear on how this slavery thing was supposed to work - Herons can FLY, does he want to keep them in chains constantly or something?
Petrine - 5/10.  Plays her role as villain, nothing special but no problems either.
Black Knight - 6/10.  Style points mostly.
Bryce - 4/10.  I guess.
Ashnard - 3/10.  Laaame motivation that's popular in Japan for some reason.  I could have bought racism, I could have bought conquer the world megalomania, but no he just wants to fight fight fight.  Whatever.  Gets +1 creativity points on his mount / Ena plot, but it's not entirely clear how much of that was his idea.

Also, in the obvious write-in category...

Naesala - 7/10.  I'm not a fan of ranking mostly-on-your-side traitors as villains (like Minerva before or Ena in FE9), but Naesala is an out-and-out villain most of the game, and he does not undergo any particular repentance at the end.  In fact I'm still not entirely sure why he flips sides, as he was willing to sell Reyson / Leanne into slavery but not kill Reyson?  Anyway he's stylish as far as the "amoral mercenary who wants money" goes, and nicely infuriating for the fact that he's ignoring Ashnard's obvious hatred of Laguz but taking his money anyway.  I also like his chat with Ashnard if he attacks him, where he offers to join his service again, but only as a ruse to try and get him to drop his guard.  Cute.  Not to mention that his state-sanction terrorism piracy probably cost the lives of a bunch of innocent human sailors who he robbed, so yeah, really not a good guy even at the end of the game, just someone on your side.

[Yoshiken]

Glen - Honestly don't remember him at all. I'd forgotten who he was by the time I reached the desert stage. :/
Selena - 4/10. Honourable villain, but doesn't do it as well as the standard (which is Rubicant). Gets a point for being pretty.
Valter - 8/10. I remember going through the first half of FE8 just praying for the chance to kill him. Pulls off the bastard villain brilliantly.
Caellech - 4/10. Sort of there. Does villainy stuff and then gets overshadowed completely by Valter.
Riev - 7/10. - Crazed scientist is always fun. Izuka Mk. I.
Lyon - 5/10. - I give him credit for his actions, at least. I... don't really rate him as a villain too much, but I can't really place why. He does what he does well, so I'll at least give him credit for that, though.
Fomortiis - 1/10. Space flea. Doesn't even have the theories that Necron has going for him. ;(

Oliver - 7/10. I hate this guy. REALLY hate him. Really.
Petrine - 3/10. Dull, but notable screentime.
Black Knight - 6/10. Points for the whole Greil thing and the double-sided-ness with FE10. (Yeah, I'm combining the two, seeing as the story is basically just one.)
Bryce - 1/10. Dull.
Ashnard - 6/10. Does all the typical villain-esque things, but never actually seems too threatening, and I found myself never really caring about what he was planning to do.

Jarod - 5/10. Dull, boring, but works for what he's doing. Bonus points for the dick move at the end, which would've worked if not for the Black Knight appearing randomly.
Ludveck - 2/10. Never even a remotely serious threat. I actually found myself agreeing with him for the most part. >.>
Valtome - 1/10. He's like an ugly version of Kuja. The beauty obsession never works with an ugly character. (See: Oliver.)
Izuka - 8/10. Crazed scientist is always fun. Riev Mk. II. Bonus point for the evil of Feral Ones.
Lekain - 9/10. Really freaking works as a villain. Sorta guy you love to hate, he's a total dick, and the main antagonist for near enough the whole damn game. Also love the betrayals and trickery throughout.
Levail - DNR. Seriously, is he actually a villain? Seems he's just a loyal soldier to the Black Knight, and not even when the Black Knight's being evil.
Zelgius - See above.
Dheginsea - 4/10. Hm. Difficult one here. He's barely a villain, but still enough to rank. But.. you don't hate him -too- much (not for plot, anyways) and he doesn't really do much in the story. Gets points for the plot with Kurthnaga, but that's not villainy at all. Gah. (Also, points for the whole Ashera thing, but yeah. Minor point.)
Sephiran - 9/10. Love it. Pretty obviously twisted since the ending of FE9, but that's beside the point. His logic is obviously flawed, and he knows that, but that's not the reason he acts. Presumably. Brilliantly in-depth and a fun character to even consider, ignoring the backstory with Greil.
Ashera - 2/10. Essentially a space flea. Gets points for the whole logic of the universe being twisted in her favour despite being EVIL AS ALL HELL.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Holidays are over, time to get back to this! Closes Monday (Japan Time).

FE8:

Glen - 4/10 - Doesn't have a lot of screen time, but I felt he used it well enough. He's average, but gets docked a point for that lack of screen time.
Selena - 5/10 - Rubicant comparison influenced this decision too much.
Valter - 7.5/10 - I love to hate this guy. His existance makes me hate Eirika less.
Caellech - 4/10
Riev - 5/10
Lyon - 6/10 - Never quite sure what to make of Lyon either. I personally like the idea that somehow Fomortiis is actually acting on Lyon's base desires, and Lyon just has a weak super-ego that was just barely holding his baser intentions in check before being possessed.
Fomortiis - 5/10 - Average space flea, unless I consider my little fanwank up there canon.

FE9:

Oliver - 6/10 - Elfboy's hype made me rethink him a bit, and he's slightly above average as a result.
Petrine - 6.5/10 - I liked her. She's just crazy and despicable. But fun.
Black Knight - 4/10 - Not really happy with him in FE9, but FE10 spoilers kept him from getting a 1.
Bryce - who?
Ashnard - 6/10 - Average tyrant, but gets a point for having a cool title 'The Mad King' that he himself seems to think is appropriate. Also, Cool Dragon.

[Taishyr]

Glen: DNR
Selena: 4/10. See NEB, but was less annoying than Valter so.
Valter: 3/10. Annoying.
Caellech: 4/10. There.
Riev: 2/10. Generically fails.
Lyon: 5/10. Didn't fail completely.
Fomortiis: 2/10, eats babies.

[Twilkitri]

FE8:

Orson - 2/10 for madness
Glen - DNR for nonvillainy
Selena - 1/10 for idiocy
Valter - 6/10 for presence
Caellech - 7/10 for betrayal
Riev - 7/10 for necromancy
Lyon - 5/10 for good intentions
Fomortiis - 6/10, counting possessed!Lyon. 3/10 if not. For mindlessness.

FE9:

Oliver - 2/10 for inconsequentiality
Petrine - 2/10 for disrespect
Black Knight - 6/10 for imposingness
Bryce - DNR for nonexistence
Ashnard - 6/10 for presence