Season 53, Week 1 - Welcome to the Hong Kong Monty Python Comedy Club.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Godlike

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Shania (SH3)
Jade (BoF1) vs Rubicant (FF4)
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Terra Branford (FF6)
Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX)

Heavy

Ness (EB) vs Nina (BoF1)
Tana (FE8) vs Yuki (G3)
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT)
Demi (PS4) vs Carlie (SD3)

Middle

Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Rena Lanford (SO2)
Junpei Iori (P3) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
Axl (MMXCM) vs Rauny Vinzalf (OB)
Raijin (FF8) vs Cador (Brig)

Light

Tempest (L:SSSC) vs Aeris Gainsbourgh (FF7)
Nina (BoF3) vs Aguro (L1)
Connie (S3) vs Chu-Chu (XG)
Garet (GS) vs Kahn (BoF4)

[Dhyerwolf]

Godlike

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Shania (SH3)
Jade (BoF1) vs Rubicant (FF4)- Rubicant would take it for me without ChillX
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Terra Branford (FF6)
Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX)- Auto-Sukukaja is very easy to get on Yoshi. Yoshi is faster. Go first, OHKO.

Heavy

Ness (EB) vs Nina (BoF1)- Hmm, how good is Nina at keeping up that Paralysis lock in game?
Tana (FE8) vs Yuki (G3)- ITE, Wind Damage, Evasion Trick. Tana hates this match up.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT)
Demi (PS4) vs Carlie (SD3)- Unless Demi immuned stat downs?

Middle

Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Rena Lanford (SO2)
Junpei Iori (P3) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4)- Scythe evades the turn 2 attack; Without that, Junpei's chip and smash strategy would likely work though.
Axl (MMXCM) vs Rauny Vinzalf (OB)- Are the HATs ITE?
Raijin (FF8) vs Cador (Brig)- Raijin for Light and such.

Light

Tempest (L:SSSC) vs Aeris Gainsbourgh (FF7)- Tempest is pretty average overall, which is enough here.
Nina (BoF3) vs Aguro (L1)
Connie (S3) vs Chu-Chu (XG)
Garet (GS) vs Kahn (BoF4)- Use 1 status on turn 1, then the Stun on turn 2, I guess. That would work for hitting Kahn.

[OblivionKnight]

Godlike

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Shania (SH3) - Zophar.  Not close at all.
Jade (BoF1) vs Rubicant (FF4) - Jade.  Bah.
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Terra Branford (FF6) - IQA.  Wow, these are easy.  
Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX) - ...HAH.  

Heavy

Ness (EB) vs Nina (BoF1) - Ness.  Wow this takes forever, though.  
Tana (FE8) vs Yuki (G3) - Yuki.  Yay perfect evasion.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT) - Chie.  
Demi (PS4) vs Carlie (SD3) - Carlie.  I suppose she likes how I take the damage in SD3, which gives her like 2x average or so.

Middle

Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Rena Lanford (SO2) - Rena.  Yay healing.
Junpei Iori (P3) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - Scythe.
Axl (MMXCM) vs Rauny Vinzalf (OB) - Axl.  
Raijin (FF8) vs Cador (Brig) - Raijin.  Wow, these are all easy.

Light

Tempest (L:SSSC) vs Aeris Gainsbourgh (FF7) - Aeris.  Allowing storebought everything, yeah.
Nina (BoF3) vs Aguro (L1) - Nina.  
Connie (S3) vs Chu-Chu (XG) - Chu-Chu.  Upgrade, already.
Garet (GS) vs Kahn (BoF4) - KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!!!!!!!!

[Ultradude]

Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Terra Branford (FF6) - Pocket.
Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX) - EDIT: Yeah... guess he nails a turn 1 status. Wasn't sure where I saw P4 status effect accuracy, but it is pretty good, especially if it's on a high Luck Persona.

Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT) - *Points at Proving Grounds*

Junpei Iori (P3) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - Messy.

[Dhyerwolf]

Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX) - If you see Pain as blocked by Dark immunity (haha nulling Light), he still also needs to null physicals to avoid status attacks from Anima, without being weak to Fire, Ice, or Lightning. Not as tall an order if you allow extensive inheritance, but still unlikely. This is assuming that Yuna dodges the first turn, which I think she would. Granted, Rakukaja or Sukukaja on the right Persona could tip it...

One of Yoshituna's ancestor Personas has Auto-Sukukaja as a learned skill (On top of DL Yoshituna's 70+ Agi thanks to Paper Armband).

I'm not even sure you need extensive inheritance to get that resistance breakdown anyways. Wouldn't be surprised if it could be accomplished with just 1 layering of skills.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Godlike

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Shania (SH3) - Gogogo EBO.
Jade (BoF1) vs Rubicant (FF4) - Dear lord.
Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX) - I guess. He goes first, Die For Me! is turn one for me. And he needs no skill inheritance to start with Yoshitsune then swap to Alice. This ain't even getting into Auto-Suku shenanigans, which just seal the deal more decisively.

Heavy

Ness (EB) vs Nina (BoF1) - Silences, Idles and very slowly chips him down - which she can do indefinitely with her MP regen weapon. Ness without his skillset is awful. Also, Nina can keep the paralysis lock forever (although Ness may immune it). The game sorta tells you when it ends.
Tana (FE8) vs Yuki (G3) - Spoils.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT) - Yeah no. Agrias lacks the damage to 2HKO Chie (unless she wants to get IMMUNED).
Demi (PS4) vs Carlie (SD3) - Demi immunes stat downs. Past that, probably lasts longer. EDIT: this isn't a knock on Carlie's resources - rather, it's a look at Demi's own resources, really. She just has that durability/damage edge that lets her apply more pressure than Carlie.

Middle

Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Rena Lanford (SO2) - Yeah no.
Junpei Iori (P3) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - Junpei is terrible at damage control and probably gets overwhelmed anyway.
Axl (MMXCM) vs Rauny Vinzalf (OB) - Yeah.
Raijin (FF8) vs Cador (Brig) - Raijin blows.

Light

Tempest (L:SSSC) vs Aeris Gainsbourgh (FF7) - Aeris sucks so badly.
Nina (BoF3) vs Aguro (L1) - 2HKOs, isn't 2HKOed.
Connie (S3) vs Chu-Chu (XG) - The horror.

[Ultradude]

I've been disallowing inheritance in general, though considering allowing single generation inheritance.

Yeah, I'll come back to that one, probably end up changing my vote.

[Lord Ephraim]

Godlike

Jade (BoF1) vs Rubicant (FF4) - Hey, a match won without BoltX spam
Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX) - Goes first OHKO.  Yuna loves those

Heavy

Ness (EB) vs Nina (BoF1) - Crystal Charms blocks paraylsis and Silence is only temporary (unless it can be refreshed before it wears off, fuck if I ever use BoF1 status).  Nina1 might run out of AP before Ness does, considering she has to heal more often.
Tana (FE8) vs Yuki (G3)
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT)


Middle

Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Rena Lanford (SO2) -Might OHKO? Rena sucks
Junpei Iori (P3) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - WA4 boss durability


Light

Tempest (L:SSSC) vs Aeris Gainsbourgh (FF7) - Oh what the heck
Nina (BoF3) vs Aguro (L1) - what
Connie (S3) vs Chu-Chu (XG) - fuck chu chu
Garet (GS) vs Kahn (BoF4) - Wasn't Kahn vunerable to blind?

[Rozalia]

Godlike
Jade (BoF1) vs Rubicant (FF4) - Can't Rubicant immune Ice with his Cape? Regardless he still loses most likely.
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Terra Branford (FF6) - IQA vs PC.
Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX) - Don't allow inheritance at all. Regardless either one will be beaten by IQA anyway.

Heavy
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT)

Middle

Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Rena Lanford (SO2) - Nukes.

[Taishyr]

Godlike

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Shania (SH3) - Shania's one advantage over Yuri is her capability to pump out PCHP damage turn 1. The hands can't go fast enough to stop her, Status Ball meets SH status blockers.
Jade (BoF1) vs Rubicant (FF4) - ...need to think, here.
Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX) - Yoshitsune -> Alice works well enough. Or Yoshitsune -> Daisoujou, though Dai might not get innate Hama boost? Either way, it's Souji's match to lose, even without inheritance.

Heavy

Ness (EB) vs Nina (BoF1) - EDIT: SMAAASH won't OHKO, eh. Alright, nevermind.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT) - uhm. kneejerk is Chie, but no Miori Shirt makes this closer and FFT chars that aren't Alma like my equip leniency. Lemme think.
Demi (PS4) vs Carlie (SD3) - Though... if someone wants to math this out, I'd listen. Carlie's got a pretty okay resource pool, Demi... might have a few issues? Iunno.

Middle

Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Rena Lanford (SO2) - Not thinking about this.
Junpei Iori (P3) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - See Eph.
Axl (MMXCM) vs Rauny Vinzalf (OB) - I... think?

Light

Tempest (L:SSSC) vs Aeris Gainsbourgh (FF7) - uh
Nina (BoF3) vs Aguro (L1)
Garet (GS) vs Kahn (BoF4) - uh

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Ness (EB) vs Nina (BoF1) - Ness immunes paralysis, likely gets turns in where he can heal since Mute wears off? Eh, works.

If Hold can be reapplied before it runs out, Silence should be able to as well. That sorta doesn't bide well for Ness, since this means he's not realistically getting turns out of Silence. Particularly not under Idle, which, as far as I know, doesn't run out.

EDIT: This also ignores the fact that Nina spoils Ness' status with Dispel (this affects her healing, but it mostly means that Ness can't really status her out) or Wall (which doesn't affect her healing, and it just means she wins if he tries that route), and regens MP by hitting him. Even if he gets turns unsilenced, he... doesn't -have- much to use them with, Nina just shuts silenceable mages down too well, and you know how infinite vs. finite resources tend to go.

[Taishyr]

Mmm... Actually, my vote was based on gutchecking that a SMAAASH physical would, once it landed, OHKO. But I don't think it would, here, actually, she's not as bad on durability as 2/3/5. Yeah, vote switch.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Not to mention SMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH! crits actually aren't too impressive! 999 damage on a damage scale that isn't much below the 800 range. Above average damage and usually mean that Ness doesn't have to take a million years to kill things with his physical (thus being a viable resource saver on his many stallfests, because Psi Rockin' is really expensive), but not a healer buster per se.

[Taishyr]

Yeah, was misestimating both EB damage curve and Nina1 durability. So.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

* Jo'ou Ranbu nods.

[superaielman]

Godlike

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Shania (SH3)
Jade (BoF1) vs Rubicant (FF4)
Souji Seta (P4) vs Yuna (FFX)- Status isn't resisted by MDef in either game. Yuna fries. And see what everyone else said, Souji doesn't need skill inhertience here.

Heavy

Tana (FE8) vs Yuki (G3)- No SP.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT)- Classic Chie win. Go first, power charge--->smite.
Demi (PS4) vs Carlie (SD3)- Abstaining.

Middle

Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Rena Lanford (SO2)
Axl (MMXCM) vs Rauny Vinzalf (OB)- ONe of his AT's was ITE, which is enough. I definitely could be argued on this one, as Axl doesn't have much room for error.  
Raijin (FF8) vs Cador (Brig)

Light

Tempest (L:SSSC) vs Aeris Gainsbourgh (FF7)- Aeris offense.
Nina (BoF3) vs Aguro (L1)- Nina 3 is a bad joke.
Connie (S3) vs Chu-Chu (XG)
Garet (GS) vs Kahn (BoF4)- Statuses Kahn out easily enough.

Tempest (L:SSSC) vs Aeris Gainsbourgh (FF7) - Aeris sucks so badly.

How are you  scaling Aeris's limit gain rate? Tempest can't chip at all, if you see it low enough he is likely very dead.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

He's dead with what? He sorta 3HKOs IIRC, that's enough to avoid a L3 to me. Paralysis runs out and Aeris damage doesn't kill -anything- before it does. The L1 healing gets outpaced because 50% healing off a 50% HP limit just fails. So no, don't think that works out for her. I guess you're right, with a generous enough limit scaling method, Tempest might continuously ram into a L3 or something, but I don't think I roll that way.

[superaielman]

That's why I asked about limit scaling, not for the L3 but the L1. The healing is a free action sooo yeah.

[074]

Godlike

Jade (BoF1) vs Rubicant (FF4) - once the cloak goes up, it's back to BOLTXBOLTXBOLTXBOLTX.  His lack of originality is meme-worthy, really.
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Terra Branford (FF6) - 4D Pocket.  It eats PCs.  They taste good.

Heavy

Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT) - Sukukaja's evasion boost might not help here, but the accuracy boost should be enough to get around the shield for one shot.  Agrias...gets crushed.  Quite literally.
Demi (PS4) vs Carlie (SD3) - Yeah, that's one of those things you'd miss if you weren't really familiar with PS4; androids immune statdowns (check DF3's Shadowbind hitrate versus Wren).  That in place, it's a long slugfest that Carlie ultimately loses.

Middle

Junpei Iori (P3) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - I'll have to math this out.  Junpei is rather unimpressive on most fronts, though.

Light

Connie (S3) vs Chu-Chu (XG) - Is not a suikodog.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

That's why I asked about limit scaling, not for the L3 but the L1. The healing is a free action sooo yeah.

Well, 50% healing off a 50% range limit to me. Doesn't work out too well, Tempest can outdo that with a physical+tech most likely, and Aeris keeps getting further from winning the more she uses that limit. Tempest's triggering the healing by his second turn and already outpaces it the way I see it.

[DjinnAndTonic]

What if you allow characters to start with half-filled Limit Meters? I'm pretty sure Tempest runs into the L3 after the 2nd hit there?

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

He does, but then Aeris has to be beaten into 85% HP lost range to use it again. It does nothing but stall for time, and this... doesn't help much, given Aeris offense.

[superaielman]

Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Agrias Oaks (FFT) - uhm. kneejerk is Chie, but no Miori Shirt makes this closer and FFT chars that aren't Alma like my equip leniency. Lemme think.

No Midori shirt doesn't matter here, Agrias damage is ITE. She's also taking a hit from getting hier Ice Brand setup immuned. Without that she doesn't have a ghost of a chance of breaking average damage.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Miori Shirt doesn't matter for evade, but it matters for accuracy. Agrias has some evade, and without Auto-Suku, God's Hand missing isn't an unreasonable possibility.

[superaielman]

Chie's well above average accuracy thanks to her AGI score. Missing shouldn't be a problem on the first swing.