[Game Over] Worms Armageddon Mafia

[Kilgamayan]

If I may meta for a moment, the mirror of "we might be lynching the cop" is "we might be lynching TownAlex", and that's almost as bad. There are very few players I would put on that footing, but he's one of them.

[Laggy]

Votecount

Rat (0):
Glen (1): Alice
Bard (5): Alex, Soppy, Kiro, Kilga, Rat
Alex (4): Yoshi, Glen, Bard, Yoshi, Tom
Tonfa (0): Mage
Soppy (0): Kiro
Smodge (0): Yoshi, Tom
Tom (0):
Mage (0): Tom
Kilga (0): Rat, Mage
Yoshi (0): Kilga, Smodge
Alice (0): Rat
Kiro (0): Alex

Extension (5/7): Kilga, Mage, Smodge, Alice, Tom

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 2 ends in 1 hour.

[Yoshiken]

Fine. Was aiming to wait for Bard's answer but, seeing as I was pressed about it... What I was aiming for was the idea that Bard has used this ability on Day1. If it's a one-time ability, there's no logical reason to use it Day1, meaning he'd be almost certainly Mafia in my eyes.

Anyways, this doesn't come down to "even though he might be the cop" at all. Whichever one's Town is likely to get night-killed if we lynch the Mafia.
To me, this comes down to... would Bard really pursue Alex at the start of Day2 when it was possibly the least believable case there was at the time unless he had some reason? Personally, I'm happy with my vote where it is.

[Smodge13]

Ok we have Bard Vs Alex.

Alex we have refusal to cooperate day 1
Day 2 Straight off the bat he goes after Bard, still he does have limited posts but it does seem DL mafia is stepping away from wall of text and into a more concise posting style than what i'm used to.

Alex was on the Excal train but its at such an early point you can't really expect to claim he's responsible for the lynch.

Bardiche however.

Flops between Glen/Tonfa trains then jumps on Alex for his "not going to participate"
Seems like scum going for the easy lynch trains.

Bard then jumps on Alex today but the case against him is fairly weak and he presents little

Now im conflicted here, In past games cops generally seem to lie low and not attract attention to themselves to avoid possible NK, bards low content could be perceived as a cop lying low, however it could also be scum lurkage we have bard disappear for 24+ hours and then appear back, roleclaims when he is only on 3 votes (and 3 people sitting on 2)  and no explanation or argument of case.

Hate to possibly lose a cop but on the other hand this seems too much like scum last ditch attempt to stay alive

##Vote: Bardiche

Note Guys this puts bard at -1

[Smodge13]

Gah hate to flop
##Unvote Bardiche
Get that out before someone hammers

[Smodge13]

Ok Wifom Argument but here we go anyway.
Assuming 1 is scum the other town

Say hypothetically we Lynch Bard and he comes up Town cop.
Day 3 begins Alex claims Miller/Framer we have no info about whether its true or not debate the day then lynch whoever, either way by lynching bard we cannot confirm Alex's alignment in any way.

Say we lynch Alex
He flips Town whatever we then Know for sure Bard is lying scum and lynch him .

Worst case scenario - Bard is town cop Alex is town miller/hit by framer we gain no information.

As Such Lynching Alex makes more logical sense as in worst case scenario we don't lose the town cop AND we gain more information

##Vote Alex

[Smodge13]

Note this Tie's it yet again.
I will but who will be around for Hammer?

[Yoshiken]

Forums are going horribly slow for me at the moment but, assuming that doesn't hinder things, I'll be around. Just don't expect me to be able to post in the last few minutes, as it'll probably take me a few minutes to even check the damn topic. -.-

[Yoshiken]

I post that, they start going at a normal speed again. Blah. Expect me to be around, sure.

[Kiro]

Gah, I'm here. Considering the roleclaim. Rereading shit.

[Kilgamayan]

No deleting posts in Mafia, Smashy!

[Smodge13]

##Unvote: Sir Alex
##Vote: Bardiche

Lynch is better than no lynch

[Smashy]

Oh shut up (Ninja'd: @ Kilga)

(I was confused on when deadline was.  It's 30 minutes from this post.  SUDDEN DEATH STILL LOOMS just not as much)

[Smodge13]

Gah i hate you

##Unvote: Bardiche
##Vote Sir Alex

yay 30 mins

[Laggy]

Votecount

Rat (0):
Glen (1): Alice
Bard (5): Alex, Soppy, Kiro, Kilga, Rat, Smodge, Smodge
Alex (5): Yoshi, Glen, Bard, Yoshi, Tom, Smodge, Smodge
Tonfa (0): Mage
Soppy (0): Kiro
Smodge (0): Yoshi, Tom
Tom (0):
Mage (0): Tom
Kilga (0): Rat, Mage
Yoshi (0): Kilga, Smodge
Alice (0): Rat
Kiro (0): Alex

Extension (5/7): Kilga, Mage, Smodge, Alice, Tom

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 2 ends in 30 minutes (at 9:30am PST).

[Kiro]

Bard's timing of thinking about Alex is bad with the resulting wagon shifting at the end of Day 1. He thinks Glen is nub, but makes no mention of Tonfa or Excal and votes Alex instead. Tunnely to an anti-Town level as it tries to keep something he could personally resolve in Day 2 relevant. If he was indeed the cop, I imagine he'd just vote for one of the regular trains while still investigating SirAlex at Night.

In either case, he needs to build up something decent to present to the rest of us in Day 2 after he got a supposed Guilty result. Instead, the point he presents today have no real weight on them. And his copclaim itself is lazy as heck. There's no analysis on why he himself should believe his guilty verdict (he could be Insane without knowing) and no mentioning of any of Alex's Day 2 content even by the end of the Day.

Not believing the claim. Behavior too outlandish and too quick to believe his supposed result without bringing forth additional evidence to convince the rest of us. Vote staying on Bardiche.

[Glen Veil]

Hopefully I get this out before deadline

##Unvote: Sir Alex
##Vote: Bardiche

Alex's reasoning clears him for me, Bardiche's claim doesn't really work for me, just woke up, posting.

[Yoshiken]

Ggh. Kiro brings up a good point about how Bard shouldn't be wanting to attack Alex Day1 but still did.

Gah. I'm reluctant to change the vote, but... I'm not really convinced on Alex being Mafia at all, and Bard's definitely not looked good by any stretch of the imagination...
Bah. Fine.

##Unvote: Sir Alex.
##Vote: Bardiche.

And that's the lynch.

[Magetastic]

Just woke up, just read it all, and as I was about to hammer Bard, Yoshi did it for me.

[Magetastic]

Just in case I can throw my argument in there before the hammer's recorded, Bard seemed to throw out that he was a cop, (raher shoddily) and then he left and hasn't been back since. Obviously he put too much faith in that, which to me reeks of gambit and therefore scumminess.

[Laggy]

Hammer/deadline/etc. stop posting, please refrain from posting in the future if hammer vote drops and you see it.

Flips to come shortly.

[Laggy]

"'sup bro, how's it goin'?"

"Mang, I'm sick of life."

"Me too."

"I was never cut for this Mafia thing."



"Totally. So I went and became a jihadist extremist last night."

"What-- BUT BRO--"




Bardiche, Suicide Bomber and VANILLA SCUM, detonated in a blaze of not-so-glory! (LYNCHED)

Tonfa, Mole Bomb and VANILLA SCUM, dug his own grave and self-combusted! (MODKILLED)


Day 2 Final Votecount

Rat (0):
Glen (1): Alice
Bard (7): Alex, Soppy, Kiro, Kilga, Rat, Smodge, Smodge, Glen, Yoshi
Alex (3): Yoshi, Glen, Bard, Yoshi, Tom, Smodge, Smodge
Tonfa (0): Mage
Soppy (0): Kiro
Smodge (0): Yoshi, Tom
Tom (0):
Mage (0): Tom
Kilga (0): Rat, Mage
Yoshi (0): Kilga, Smodge
Alice (0): Rat
Kiro (0): Alex

Extension (5/7): Kilga, Mage, Smodge, Alice, Tom

With 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

Send in Night 2 actions.

[Laggy]

"Hah! I'm safe! I'm INVINCIBLE! No one can hurt me!"


"Pffft, bring your worst!"


"...uh oh."

"..."




Alex, Freeze and TOWN JAILER, turned into an ice cube and sank into the cold ocean depths! (NIGHTKILLED)


It is now Day 3. With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 3 ends in 48 hours on Wednesday, Aug 24th, 6:30pm PST.

[EvilTom]

Wow. I feel like a total noob.

[Kilgamayan]

Yeah.

##Vote: Tom for what boils down to "Yeah Rat you're right about pretty much everything but I'm going to keep my vote on Alex anyway".