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Season 54, Week 3
« on: September 12, 2009, 07:46:25 AM »
Godlike:

Piastol (SoA) vs Avalon (LoL2)
Arc Eda Ricoline (AtLC) vs Loki (VP1)
Ryu (BoF3) vs Karitkeya (WA5)
Ramirez (SoA) vs Kefka (FF6)

Heavy:

Fei Fong Wong (XG) vs Nephenee (FE9)
Jean (Lunar:EBC) vs Renee Kearse (MK)
Geno (SMRPG) vs Naoto Shirogane (P4)
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Hiro (Lunar:EBC)

Middle:

Baal (G1) vs Vormav Tingel (FFT)
Gryz (PS4) vs Kanji Tatsumi (P4)
Adell (Dis2) vs Mizuki (S4)
Jibril (SO2) vs Yukiko Amagi (Pers4)

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Timlitt (FF8)
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3)
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2) vs Edward (FF4)
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3)
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2009, 07:53:34 AM »
Godlike:

Piastol (SoA) vs Avalon (LoL2)- Piastol
Arc Eda Ricoline (AtLC) vs Loki (VP1)- Loki
Ryu (BoF3) vs Karitkeya (WA5)- Ryu
Ramirez (SoA) vs Kefka (FF6)- Kefka. Godlike is really straightforward.

Heavy:

Fei Fong Wong (XG) vs Nephenee (FE9)- Fei
Jean (Lunar:EBC) vs Renee Kearse (MK)- Renee
Geno (SMRPG) vs Naoto Shirogane (P4)- Naoto. ID blocking fun.
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Hiro (Lunar:EBC)- Hiro. Guess Heavy was pretty clear too.

Middle:

Baal (G1) vs Vormav Tingel (FFT)- Vormav
Gryz (PS4) vs Kanji Tatsumi (P4)- Kanji. Base speeds are about identical turn 1, but Kanji can increase his at least!
Adell (Dis2) vs Mizuki (S4)- Mizuki. Mizuki probably has at least 30% evasion by my scaling, which means that Adell probably has like 25% accuracy (He doesn't deal with evasion well).
Jibril (SO2) vs Yukiko Amagi (Pers4)- Auto-Sukukaja let's say.

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Timlitt (FF8)- Whatever. Not mathing this out to see exactly what turns Selphie is losing or not.
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3)
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2) vs Edward (FF4)- EPIC durability gap.
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3)
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2009, 08:13:25 AM »
Godlike:

Ryu (BoF3) vs Karitkeya (WA5) - Survives a Lock-On, smashes.

Heavy:

Jean (Lunar:EBC) vs Renee Kearse (MK) - Doesn't care about Jean's status. Smashes.
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Hiro (Lunar:EBC) - Probably. Fierce damage output.

Middle:

Baal (G1) vs Vormav Tingel (FFT) - ohgodwhat
Adell (Dis2) vs Mizuki (S4) - Counters Mizuki? I think?

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Timlitt (FF8)
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3)
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2) vs Edward (FF4) - Totally Hides and attacks only on doubles. LOOK IN YOUR HEARTS YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUTH!
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3) - S3 Lizards have power! ... but do they like MAGIC?
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2009, 08:34:05 AM »
Naoto's match is the only one which bears thinking about.

When you say ID blockage, do you mean just the light/dark immunities stacking to be that in-game?
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2009, 09:42:13 AM »
Yes, although it's not really relevant there thinking on it (Unless you see Naoto's ID as turn 2).
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2009, 12:15:04 PM »
Godlike:

Arc Eda Ricoline (AtLC) vs Loki (VP1) - hrhr.

Heavy:

Jean (Lunar:EBC) vs Renee Kearse (MK) - This one actually is pretty close to me, but, when I'm still undecided on how I take Renee's Azureflame winning a fight and I don't even have accurate stat figures for the Jean I've seen in a pretty heated fight, I'd rather kneejerk for the one I have actual figures for.
Geno (SMRPG) vs Naoto Shirogane (P4) - Don't see Light/Dark immunity affecting ID unless said ID takes one of these elements (viewing elemental immunity as status immunity is taking the forest for the trees to me), it actually doesn't matter to me. Endure+seeing Naoto's ID as turn one tips this.
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Hiro (Lunar:EBC) - Less close than Jean vs. Renee even taking EBO into account. Delita wishes Hiro's damage wasn't ITE.

Middle:

Baal (G1) vs Vormav Tingel (FFT) - Baal.
Gryz (PS4) vs Kanji Tatsumi (P4) - Another match tipped by Endure. Kanji's insane End/Str should let him avoid a Crash, and since he's average speed after turn one, he laps and gets two Primal Forces before Crash connects. Then, Ziodyne finishes Gryz off.
Jibril (SO2) vs Yukiko Amagi (Pers4) - Miori Shirt makes this really trivial (about 0% odds of eating there, he was inaccurate). Not that I wouldn't buy a Jibril getting 2HKOed before that happened even without Miori anyway.

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Tilmitt (FF8) - Stun handles limit hype, methinks. Selphie hype is stupid anyway.
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamamoto (S3) - Sanae sorta sucks at that damage thing.
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2) vs Edward (FF4) - 2HKOs or something (...).
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3) - Serph is a pretty good Light slugger when he's not getting spoiled.
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2009, 02:13:35 PM »
Godlike:

Piastol (SoA) vs Avalon (LoL2)- Speed trumps durability.
Arc Eda Ricoline (AtLC) vs Loki (VP1)- Ugh.
Ramirez (SoA) vs Kefka (FF6)- Ramirez can't chip well enough here.

Heavy:

Jean (Lunar:EBC) vs Renee Kearse (MK)
Geno (SMRPG) vs Naoto Shirogane (P4)- Faster, more accurate ID.
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Hiro (Lunar:EBC)

Middle:

Baal (G1) vs Vormav Tingel (FFT)- It's Baal.
Gryz (PS4) vs Kanji Tatsumi (P4)- I argued/chewed over this at IM. The fight biols down to Gryz needing to go first and hitting with crash. Not sure about either so Kanji wins.
Adell (Dis2) vs Mizuki (S4)- Don't know. Probably Mizuki.
Jibril (SO2) vs Yukiko Amagi (Pers4)- Evasion screws with eating, Jibril doesn't outslug against someone with a pulse.

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Timlitt (FF8)
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3)
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2) vs Edward (FF4)
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3)
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2009, 02:16:31 PM »
Godlike:

Piastol (SoA) vs Avalon (LoL2) - Avalon.  Form-chain helps him a lot.
Arc Eda Ricoline (AtLC) vs Loki (VP1) - Loki.
Ryu (BoF3) vs Karitkeya (WA5) - Kartikeya.
Ramirez (SoA) vs Kefka (FF6) - Ramirez.

Heavy:

Fei Fong Wong (XG) vs Nephenee (FE9) - Nephenee
Jean (Lunar:EBC) vs Renee Kearse (MK) - Renee
Geno (SMRPG) vs Naoto Shirogane (P4) - Naoto loves that Endure
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Hiro (Lunar:EBC) - Hiro

Middle:

Baal (G1) vs Vormav Tingel (FFT) - Baal
Gryz (PS4) vs Kanji Tatsumi (P4) - Kanji
Adell (Dis2) vs Mizuki (S4) - Mizuki
Jibril (SO2) vs Yukiko Amagi (Pers4) - Jibril

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Timlitt (FF8) - Selphie
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3) - Beecham
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2) vs Edward (FF4) - Edward. 
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3) - Shiba
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2009, 02:30:10 PM »
Godlike:

Ramirez (SoA) vs Kefka (FF6) - Not too terribly one sided I guess?

Heavy:

Geno (SMRPG) vs Naoto Shirogane (P4)

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Timlitt (FF8)
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3)
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2009, 03:59:32 PM »
Godlike:

Ryu (BoF3) vs Karitkeya (WA5): Kartikeya goes first! A good way to beat Ryu! And he's horribly outclassed and even spoiled otherwise.

Heavy:

Fei Fong Wong (XG) vs Nephenee (FE9): Faster, isn't doubled, 2HKOs while avoiding Wrath by going something weak -> Yamikei.
Jean (Lunar:EBC) vs Renee Kearse (MK): The Mana distracts the targets of Slam Dance, making this even harder for Jean, who doesn't like Heavy bosses to start with.
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Hiro (Lunar:EBC): Faster, ITE 2HKO.

Middle:

Baal (G1) vs Vormav Tingel (FFT): Both suck, but I think Baal sucks more.
Adell (Dis2) vs Mizuki (S4): Really sounds like Mizuki's match to me, at least. Speed/evade/etc.

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Counters Mizuki? I think?

Unless Dis2 is very different than I think, its counters (a) don't work against techs, and (b) aren't very good.

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Timlitt (FF8): Blah Selphie.
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3): Healing trumps evasion.
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2) vs Edward (FF4): Top 10% Light vs. Bottom 10% Light. Ugly.
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3): Shiba blows.
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2009, 07:20:32 PM »
Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on September 12, 2009, 03:59:32 PM
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Counters Mizuki? I think?

Unless Dis2 is very different than I think, its counters (a) don't work against techs, and (b) aren't very good.


No, you are correct.
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2009, 07:48:42 PM »
Given Adell's damage output, counters can let him steal a handful of 2HKOs he might otherwise miss, but that's not really at issue with Mizuki (even ignoring that Shrike probably shouldn't trigger a Disgaea counter).  The actual issue of course is that his techs can miss now too >.>
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2009, 09:10:57 PM »
Godlike:

Piastol (SoA) vs Avalon (LoL2): Requires little thinking.
Arc Eda Ricoline (AtLC) vs Loki (VP1): Goes first and turns him into paste.
Ryu (BoF3) vs Karitkeya (WA5): Congratulations on getting a win, Karti. Now meet one of Godlike's finest.
Ramirez (SoA) vs Kefka (FF6): Havok Wing should be good enough for this.

Heavy:

Fei Fong Wong (XG) vs Nephenee (FE9): I think Sentinel Nephenee can do this.
Jean (Lunar:EBC) vs Renee Kearse (MK): Jean doesn't really like decentish Heavy bosses.
Geno (SMRPG) vs Naoto Shirogane (P4): Endure, evade, her own accurate ID.
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Hiro (Lunar:EBC): 2HKOs and goes first. Nothing Delita can do to stop this from happening..

Middle:

Baal (G1) vs Vormav Tingel (FFT): Bah.
Gryz (PS4) vs Kanji Tatsumi (P4): Not sure.
Adell (Dis2) vs Mizuki (S4): Adell smacks right into her evade.
Jibril (SO2) vs Yukiko Amagi (Pers4): Unless Jibril nulled fire.

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Timlitt (FF8): Just better, I think.
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3): Has healing. That is worth something.
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2) vs Edward (FF4): No.
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3): I believe NEB explained this quite thoroughly.
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2009, 09:49:12 PM »
Quote from: Dhyerwolf on September 12, 2009, 07:20:32 PM
Quote from: Dark Holy Elf on September 12, 2009, 03:59:32 PM
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Counters Mizuki? I think?

Unless Dis2 is very different than I think, its counters (a) don't work against techs, and (b) aren't very good.


No, you are correct.
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Adell never quite had issues hitting stuff on my playthroughs, but I'm willing to buy evade hype. If he can't even counter it, I'm sorely disappointed in him. :( I seem to recall counters to my WHIRLWIND BLADE attack, though.
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2009, 01:26:21 PM »
Heavy:

Geno (SMRPG) vs Naoto Shirogane (P4) - Really good ID, auto-endure.  Naoto kills PCs.


Middle:

Gryz (PS4) vs Kanji Tatsumi (P4) - Pretty obviously outslugs.  Helps that I don't have too much Crash respect.

Light:

Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3) - Healer with passable damage vs. non-healer in Light.
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3) - lololololololshiba
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Re: Season 54, Week 3
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2009, 09:29:19 PM »
Godlike:

Piastol (SoA) vs Avalon (LoL2)
Arc Eda Ricoline (AtLC) vs Loki (VP1)
Ryu (BoF3) vs Karitkeya (WA5)
Ramirez (SoA) vs Kefka (FF6)

Heavy:

Fei Fong Wong (XG) vs Nephenee (FE9)
Jean (Lunar:EBC) vs Renee Kearse (MK)
Geno (SMRPG) vs Naoto Shirogane (P4)
Delita Hyral (FFT) vs Hiro (Lunar:EBC)

Middle:

Baal (G1) vs Vormav Tingel (FFT)
Gryz (PS4) vs Kanji Tatsumi (P4)
Adell (Dis2) vs Mizuki (S4)
Jibril (SO2) vs Yukiko Amagi (Pers4)

Light:

Landis (S3) vs Selphie Timlitt (FF8)
Beecham (S3) vs Sanae Yamatomo (S3)
Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (WA2) vs Edward (FF4)
Serph (DDS) vs Shiba (S3)
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