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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1425 on: December 24, 2008, 07:50:50 PM »
My prayers are with you guys, Lady Door.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1426 on: December 24, 2008, 09:12:45 PM »
Earlier this year, my grandmother passed away too, but it was a blessing that she went. She had to be put on pain killers after losing her leg to Cancer, and the doctor who prescribed them had her on them for 2 years, constantly renewing the prescription. They basically destroyed her mind worse then Alzheimer's can. Apparently, my aunt brought her to another doctor a little after that, they found out that the doctor at the hospital was a moron and you couldn't be on that pill for more then 2 weeks without brain damage...

I know what its like to have to deal with the loss of someone who can't even remember your face or name. It's a sin that such a thing has happened, and it's almost a blessing to see them go since they don't have to live like that any more. My prayers and thoughts are with you LadyDoor. I hope things go well, however things have to happen. And I hope you'll still be able to find joy in the holidays, as sad of a time it may be for you and family. I wish you the best of luck.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1427 on: December 25, 2008, 01:04:42 AM »
On a happy note, it's my Birthday!

I'm going to go out and celebrate the fact that I am alive and living in Japan, where celebratory karaoke bars are never more than 10 minutes away!

Even if it's not your respective birthdays, you should all go out and do the same. Give those bartenders who have to work on Christmas something to do! Oh, and celebrate life and stuff, I guess. Even if you don't go to a bar, do something to make yourself happy. It's what your loved ones would want, I'm sure.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1428 on: December 25, 2008, 01:38:37 AM »
On a happy note, it's my Birthday!

I'm going to go out and celebrate the fact that I am alive and living in Japan, where celebratory karaoke bars are never more than 10 minutes away!

Even if it's not your respective birthdays, you should all go out and do the same. Give those bartenders who have to work on Christmas something to do! Oh, and celebrate life and stuff, I guess. Even if you don't go to a bar, do something to make yourself happy. It's what your loved ones would want, I'm sure.

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Happy birthday then! Make it a good one!

Damn you and your kareoke bars. All I have is a machine here at my parents house. And kareoke alone is depressing  :-[

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1429 on: December 25, 2008, 01:53:08 AM »
*Nods* I've been there Lady Door. Just got back from taking my grandmother to christmas eve party at my uncle's, and she's in the final stages of Parkinson's. You do what you can and work from there. I hope you get resolution soon.

Happy birthday to Djinn, who should enjoy Christmas, for it is awesome.
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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1430 on: December 25, 2008, 03:30:52 AM »
Bah humbug. My Birthday falls on Christmas every year. If anyone has a good reason to hate Christmas, it's me.

In addition to the commercial stress-fest that the holiday season has become... try spending your formative years when your birth-appointed 'one special day of the YEAR' happens to be shared with everyone else in the world... and JESUS! Trust me, after about 13 years of your best friends forgetting your birthday because they are too excited about their own presents to think about your birthday party, you start to get a little disdainful of the holiday.

Anyway, now I'm in a Japan, a sensible country which doesn't get all that excited about some deified zombie. So I can enjoy my birthday.

Hmm... that came out harsher than I intended.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1431 on: December 25, 2008, 03:48:54 AM »
Japan created bible black and XS, sensible is not the first words that come to mind. I am impressed, in that short post you managed to get pissed about: Your birthday, christmas, america, Christanity in general, and childhood friends. Someone needs some christmas cookies and a hug!

Christmas is fun. People do largely come together and enjoy the holidays with family and friends. For one day the country mostly shuts down and people just enjoy the wonderful season- you have several months of winter to go, taxes in a few months, and the other problems of life. But it's a time to stop and enjoy each other and the season. Who gives a flying fuck about the commerical aspects? That's not your problem, it's other people's issue. Enjoy the holiday for what it is. Gift exchanging fun, people who go overboard are idiots. Nothing worth sweating.
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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1432 on: December 25, 2008, 04:05:54 AM »
Condolences, Door.  I hope, if nothing else, what you have to do becomes more clear quickly.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1433 on: December 25, 2008, 04:13:24 AM »
Sorry to hear about that, Door. ._.

Wah.

Y'know, if Jesus hadn't existed, you'd just be having Saturnalia overshadow your birthday instead.

It's not like we actually celebrate the actual date of his birth or anything. That's probably some time in spring as near as can be told by the hints we have now. >_>

We celebrate a pagan holiday that was close enough for the early Christians to use it. Early Christians sorta cribbed a lot of pagan stuff to get pagans to accept the idea.
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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1434 on: December 25, 2008, 04:51:30 AM »
Japan created bible black and XS, sensible is not the first words that come to mind.
America created Jackass and regularly puts Paris Hilton on TV. I am not discussing the country's pop culture, I'm discussing its actual culture.

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I am impressed, in that short post you managed to get pissed about: Your birthday, christmas, america, Christanity in general, and childhood friends. Someone needs some christmas cookies and a hug!
Yeah, this is an impressive amount of anger for me. It all spiraled out from Christmas, just to show you how much I disdain it. There's a lot of negative feelings wrapped up in the holiday. I apologize for trying to rain on everyone else's Christmas parade, that was childish. But please don't expect me to celebrate it... or to react positively to being told to enjoy it.

Wah.
Y'know, if Jesus hadn't existed, you'd just be having Saturnalia overshadow your birthday instead.
I just find this funny.

And yes, part of the reason I disdain Christmas is because of what it has become and what it pretends to be. I'm well aware of its origins, on both the pagan and Christian sides. Arguably, if Jesus hadn't existed, some other religion might have wiped out paganism and chosen to completely declare all holidays as evil, thus purging our culture of any solstice-related festivities. Honestly, I don't mind holidays, but the Christmas season is just so overwhelmingly high-stress and commercialized that it's lost any appeal for me. Add in my lifelong birthday rivalry problem and it becomes something very close to anger.

The Christianity-bashing and Japanophilia were admittedly gratuitous.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1435 on: December 25, 2008, 04:58:49 AM »
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Wah.
Y'know, if Jesus hadn't existed, you'd just be having Saturnalia overshadow your birthday instead.
I just find this funny.

It's supposed to be. It sure as hell amuses me. >_>

Having said that, the date doesn't really matter, anyways, to the theory of the matter. The in-practice leads to, well, overcommericialized holidays in general, but that's not really the concept's problem. It's the problem of a society who, from a buisiness standpoint, idolizes Mother's Day as an incredible buisiness coup.
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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1436 on: December 25, 2008, 05:01:29 AM »
Christmas definitely has both its ups and downs. On the one hand, it really is both too over-comercialised and stressful - forced gift-giving is a somewhat bizarre tradition that businesses took hold of and ran it until it became a somewhat sickening display of consumerism. And the fact that suicide rates skyrocket this time of year indicates that something is seriously wrong.

On the other hand, it being a day that everyone can take off, and spend time with their family, is really cool. More than almost any other holiday, it emphasises that, or at least it does for me, and I can't think of a more worthy focus for a holiday to have.

It's really a waste to not appreciate the good it offers, for all that I understand the frustration.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1437 on: December 25, 2008, 05:08:53 AM »
Christmas is an excellent excuse for me not to go to work tomorrow. Beyond that I have no opinion.

Condolences, Lady Door. I hope things get straightened out quickly; God knows the last thing you need after that is less certainty.
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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1438 on: December 25, 2008, 05:12:06 AM »
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America created Jackass and regularly puts Paris Hilton on TV. I am not discussing the country's pop culture, I'm discussing its actual culture.

Which stands (Xenophobia) on it's own (Most of it pre 1945) merits. It's not sensible becuase it doesn't celebrate a major Christian holiday.

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And yes, part of the reason I disdain Christmas is because of what it has become and what it pretends to be. I'm well aware of its origins, on both the pagan and Christian sides. Arguably, if Jesus hadn't existed, some other religion might have wiped out paganism and chosen to completely declare all holidays as evil, thus purging our culture of any solstice-related festivities. Honestly, I don't mind holidays, but the Christmas season is just so overwhelmingly high-stress and commercialized that it's lost any appeal for me. Add in my lifelong birthday rivalry problem and it becomes something very close to anger.


The birthday thing sucks. More below.


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The Christianity-bashing and Japanophilia were admittedly gratuitous.

It paints a giant bullseye on your head saying 'please don't take me seriously, I'm acting like an elitist dumbass, ps ^_^ SUGOI!!!!'. You are not going to get anything remotely close to good reactions for a statement like that, no matter how well intentioned or based in fact they are. Or:

<12/25/2008>[00:03:40] <Zenny> I'm with Djinn.  Christmas is overrated and at best an opportunity to see relatives you don't see that often because they live in other places.
[<12/25/2008>[00:03:56] <Zenny> But jesus H. Titty fucking Christ I want to slap him when he bitches about it.


The short version? Life's what you make of it. Christmas, even if you aren't religious or don't want to exchange gifts, is a nice time to meet with family and catch up with life. Everyone slows down, be it for religious or work shutting down, and it's oftentimes the only time families will gather in a year. You gain less than nothing by being pissed off. Take the good and the rest can fuck off. But if you seriously think there's nothing to be gained from christmas and enjoying the holiday, you're mistaken.


To use an extremely watered down online version- even if you don't give a flying fuck about the DL, watching nom nights when they're really booming is fun. Or going to a con. It's all about the people and what you get out of those relationships. Sephiroth vs Albedo may be boring to say Lady Door or Zenny by now, going to a con and spending three days hanging out with people isn't.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1439 on: December 25, 2008, 05:40:28 AM »
Japan created bible black and XS, sensible is not the first words that come to mind.

Your naivete never ceases to be amusing.

Sad to hear it LD, good luck with however it turns out and party on Major Garth.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1440 on: December 25, 2008, 05:57:21 AM »
It paints a giant bullseye on your head saying 'please don't take me seriously, I'm acting like an elitist dumbass, ps ^_^ SUGOI!!!!'.
It really wasn't meant to be taken as seriously as it has been...
I don't like Christmas, so I ranted a bit.
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You are not going to get anything remotely close to good reactions for a statement like that, no matter how well intentioned or based in fact they are.
I'm seriously not here for validation. Especially of my Christmas-related beliefs.
That said, I wasn't trying to offend anyone, and again, it wasn't intended to be taken so seriously.

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[<12/25/2008>[00:03:56] <Zenny> But jesus H. Titty fucking Christ I want to slap him when he bitches about it.
This says nothing, Zenny wants to slap me at any given opportunity. And even some un-given ones. >.>;;

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The short version? Life's what you make of it.

This is always a good point. Except for the fact that I'm still at work, I'm actually in a rather good mood and looking forward to celebrating my birthday with my friends. On my actual birthdate. This is the first time in my life that this has happened. Yay, positive feelings all around. ~^_^~

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1441 on: December 25, 2008, 05:59:52 AM »
Wait, is Christmas really such a non-event in Japan? I'd been led to believe it was actually a pretty huge collective commercial orgasm over there.

No opinion on the rest of the debate, really. Christmas is good and bad nom nom whatever.

Merry Christmas!

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1442 on: December 25, 2008, 06:39:16 AM »
A sparse number of people decorate with electric colored lights, that's about the only notable difference of Christmas from any other seasonal event in Japan.

Japan is all about seasonal changing, such that every holiday just kind of blends into the next and people really just go through motions of them in the same way a bored register monkey in a gas station convenience store says 'have a nice day'.

The exceptions to this are New Years (where kids are given cash) and Sakura season, where people get panicky over getting the perfect spot to view Cherry Blossoms.

And even those I'd say are about on the same hype scale as Valentine's Day or St. Patrick's Day in the States. Notable, but not Christmas-level excitement (or even Independence Day/Thanksgiving/Halloween-level excitement).

Christmas itself functions like a third Valentine's Day here in Japan - mostly couples care about it, though parents normally give their kids something too. It's not a full-out EVERYONE I KNOW IN THE UNIVERSE must get a gift thing here.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1443 on: December 25, 2008, 12:48:45 PM »
CT doesn't celebrate Christmas - it's holidaymas!~

Also due to my family being dangerously close to the poverty line I'll be lucky if I get more than one present from my mom this year  but I don't give an ass. I get to have a nice Christmas bath, put my new pjs on and settle down to spend some time with my mom, eating dinner together and watching tv. I also get to chat to special persons. That's worth more to me than anything commercial could ever be.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1444 on: December 25, 2008, 02:48:36 PM »
Christmas itself functions like a third Valentine's Day here in Japan - mostly couples care about it, though parents normally give their kids something too. It's not a full-out EVERYONE I KNOW IN THE UNIVERSE must get a gift thing here.

Yeah, didn't you guys play P3?  Christmas is just a day to go to the mall with one of the girls you have an S. Link with and look at lights.

My kid's birthday is also Christmas Eve.  Unlike Djinn, we go out of our way to make it not emo.  He gets two days of awesome presents instead of one.  He'd been wanting an electric guitar, so he got that yesterday.  You know that duel versus Tom Morello song from GH3?  Yeah, he figured out how to play that in a few minutes.

Also, since it was his 13th birthday, we marathon-watched the three Austin Powers movies.  He hadn't been allowed to watch them before.  Yeah baby!

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1445 on: December 25, 2008, 05:55:34 PM »
Great-aunt died about 9:40 last night. This is especially notable since her husband died the 28th of last year. Their family is going to open the presents that she bought them in quite possibly the most sad thing to do I can think of.

So, uh, so much for a merry Christmas.
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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1446 on: December 25, 2008, 06:20:14 PM »
Condolensces to Lady Door and Ciato, even if the former is a touch late.

regarding the Christmas nonsense...well, being Jewish means it has less of my ability to care for it.  Hannukah exists, sure, but that's not really that big...

...ok, scratch that.  Hannukah is complete and total commercial nonsense, its not even funny.  Frankly, if you've read the "Informed Judaism" article in TV Tropes, you already have an idea.

Hannukah is a rather MINOR Holiday in Judaism, in honesty.  All you do is light a candle each night, and that's it.  Yeah, there's the Dreydal, and some Hannukah foods, but those only kick in if you're having a party/get together/whatever during that time.  The presents? It was basically them mimicing Christmas, through and through.  In services, all that occurs is we do the same services that happens every time you start a new month, adding an extra 15 minutes total to the service (this is contrast to some of the more major holidays that turn a 30 minute service into 3 hours.)

What stands out about it is its 8 days, but really, its 8 days of candle lighting and not much else.

And yet, its one of the most famous jewish holidays for gentiles near as I can tell (and more secular Jews.)  Sounds like only Passover comes close.  People don't know of the actual big ones like Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashannah, etc.  And you know what? That's ok; if you aren't Jewish, why care?
But because its so commercialized as being this "Jews equivalent of Christmas" that it gets well known, when its...really, just an excuse to give out presents.

Now, Christmas for me has a different, really weird meaning.  Why?

For most Jews, Christmas = Go to movies and eat chinese food.  Its not our holiday, and those are the only things open, and most other people are at home, so take advantage of no lines and less crowded public places!

For me? Its my father's birthday.  So, uh, yeah, I'm stuck at home *ANYWAY* <_<;
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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1447 on: December 25, 2008, 06:26:25 PM »
In lighter news, I'm an Uncle!



He was born about a week ago, actually, but this the first chance I've had to get my hands on some pictures of him.

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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1448 on: December 25, 2008, 06:27:51 PM »
Oh dear god no.


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Re: Good Morning, 2008!
« Reply #1449 on: December 25, 2008, 08:06:54 PM »
Great-aunt died about 9:40 last night. This is especially notable since her husband died the 28th of last year. Their family is going to open the presents that she bought them in quite possibly the most sad thing to do I can think of.

So, uh, so much for a merry Christmas.

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