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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2009, 12:20:12 AM »
Quote from: Pyro on October 06, 2009, 11:40:13 PM
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Elyon (Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter) vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI): PC transforming and smiting the shit out of Elyon. Ah nostalgia.

Labyrinthia Wordsworth (Wild ARMs XF) vs Bernadette Egan (Suikoden V): Bernadette can not break Distortion witthout a critical and that is made nearly impossible by Attack and Aim down. Jesus christ Labby beats a healer by spamming her physical.

Convinced me, this feels closer to my interps in general.

Also... forgot that I actually -do- allow Zidane's Petrify. *Edits*
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2009, 12:26:35 AM »
Quote from: Pyro on October 06, 2009, 11:40:13 PM
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Labyrinthia Wordsworth (Wild ARMs XF) vs Bernadette Egan (Suikoden V): Bernadette can not break Distortion witthout a critical and that is made nearly impossible by Attack and Aim down. Jesus christ Labby beats a healer by spamming her physical.

Icy Poizn doesn't handle Labby?
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2009, 12:41:39 AM »
Quote from: hinode on October 06, 2009, 10:56:59 PM
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2009, 12:43:49 AM »
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Arceus (Pokémon) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) The fact that safeguard wears off puts away any hope Arceus has.
Sanger Zonvolt (Super Robot Taisen Series) vs Kuja (Final Fantasy IX): FF9 speed isn't good enough to get around sense.
Elyon (Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter) vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI)

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Blue Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Zidane Tribal (Final Fantasy IX): Stone/stop are legal, paying attention to whether or not a status gives rewards is stupid, etc.
Odie (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters) vs Alicia (Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria)

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Empoleon (Pokémon) vs Alice Elliot (Shadow Hearts): That limit smash is pretty mean.

Light

Salvatore (Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss): Salvatore in light. riiiiiight......
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2009, 01:39:29 AM »
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Onion Knight (Final Fantasy III) vs Jecht (Final Fantasy X)
Arceus (Pokémon) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Elyon (Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter) vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI)

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Blue Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Zidane Tribal (Final Fantasy IX)

Middle

Slime (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nino (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword)
Empoleon (Pokémon) vs Alice Elliot (Shadow Hearts)

Light

Labyrinthia Wordsworth (Wild ARMs XF) vs Bernadette Egan (Suikoden V)
Judith (Tales of Vesperia) vs Zhuzhen Liu (Shadow Hearts)
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2009, 04:56:05 PM »
Labby's physical does 22 damage with 66% accuracy. That kinda fails at keeping Attack and Aim Down on reliably, especially with the doubleturns Labby gives up, and means Bern can heal once every dozen or so turns just to offset the damage. Regardless... I think Snow hit it. Icy poison wins this fight. Sad.

Monkey: While I stand by my kneejerk for Steel > Light... it's worth pointing out that Empoleon OHKOs with Torrent Hydro Cannon, and since Alice does below average damage, she has no way to possibly avoid seeing that short of a very timely double (not possible to me since I allow waiting).
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2009, 11:21:37 PM »

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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2009, 01:58:13 AM »
Glossed over Torrent.

vote changed.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2009, 03:51:22 AM »
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Arceus (Pokémon) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) - Not sure what typing Arceus wants to walk into this with. Steel is a bad choice due to Break. Probably doesn't matter. Safeguard wearing off + what NEB said feels like this is a really nasty uphill slog for Arceus

Heavy
Blue Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Zidane Tribal (Final Fantasy IX) - Someone want to check if FF5 had a Petrify blocker? My vote depends on that.

Middle
Lilianne Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Muppy Oktavia Vondercheck VII (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) - Awesome
Empoleon (Pokémon) vs Alice Elliot (Shadow Hearts) - Think I stand on Steel > Light as well. So uh...Alice is running into some serious SP issues before even getting the damage at all

Light
Labyrinthia Wordsworth (Wild ARMs XF) vs Bernadette Egan (Suikoden V) - CK, I know this isn't your fault (IS IT?), but this is MATCH OF DOOM worthy level. Seriously. Win by Icy POIZN what the hell.

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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2009, 03:56:38 AM »
Yesss.  CK would never set Matches of Doom.  He certainly doesn't make every attempt to make Light matches as doomy as possible.

(Clearly all the accounting has melted Tide's logic centers.  Get this man some Brawl stat.)
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2009, 04:10:50 AM »
Quote from: Tide on October 08, 2009, 03:51:22 AM
Labyrinthia Wordsworth (Wild ARMs XF) vs Bernadette Egan (Suikoden V) - CK, I know this isn't your fault (IS IT?), but this is MATCH OF DOOM worthy level. Seriously. Win by Icy POIZN what the hell.

Personally, despite my protests, I'm always amused when normally unimportant parts of a character's skillset find use in a duel. Even better in Light, which is oddly quirky like that.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2009, 04:19:22 AM »
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Onion Knight (Final Fantasy III) vs Jecht (Final Fantasy X)
Arceus (Pokémon) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Sanger Zonvolt (Super Robot Taisen Series) vs Kuja (Final Fantasy IX)
Elyon (Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter) vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI)

Heavy

Blue Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Zidane Tribal (Final Fantasy IX)
Razeluxe Meitzen (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Knight (Final Fantasy)
Aschen Brodel (Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier) vs Jeremy Non (Wild ARMs 4)- No vote.
Odie (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters) vs Alicia (Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria)- Sure.

Middle

Lilianne Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Muppy Oktavia Vondercheck VII (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)- Huh.  Didn't realize Lily immuned fire.
Slime (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nino (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword)
Fauxnel (Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon)
Empoleon (Pokémon) vs Alice Elliot (Shadow Hearts)- I dunno about 'Steel > Light' hype, but I'll bite on "Alice slams into Torrent and is overkilled".

Light

Salvatore (Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)- I guess people don't buy into Jewel of Lorelai these days then?
Labyrinthia Wordsworth (Wild ARMs XF) vs Bernadette Egan (Suikoden V)- Okay, so... supposing I buy into all the pro-Labby arguments, and Bernadette needs Freeze to win... does the status still get applied if the damage itself is nulled?
Galahad (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters) vs Chidori Yoshino (Persona 3)
Judith (Tales of Vesperia) vs Zhuzhen Liu (Shadow Hearts)- No vote.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2009, 05:07:00 AM »
I allow the jewel, but is it really so great that it allows Luke to beat someone as clearly not-light as Salvatore?
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2009, 05:54:36 AM »
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Gunman Spirit (10 SP): E-Ranked physical attack--melee or ranged, Lv.3 (1069 damage)
PC Averages:
Damage:1932 (1978 with Love My Heart factored in)

Even with HP 25% above average, her defensive gimmick, and possibly some evade (990 speed to a 720 average, but... I dunno what enemy hit looks like so I have no idea how valuable evade is on the endgame curve.), half average damage with no healing or other non-damage skillset strikes me as a borderliner, especially with Disgaea's status blocking options.  On the plus side, she can spam said puny damage all damn day at least.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2009, 07:02:03 AM »
Looking at the stat topic, my interp of her evasion is 18% relative and 33% raw against endgame enemies (I think). There definetely could be some middling Lights that she loses too (although she may not have too many issues with defense if her damage is just HIT based since her attacking stat is fine and it's just her mults that blow). Granted...uh...looks like at least 3 people have notable enough crits to go into the damage average, so her damage is arguably even worse.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2009, 02:46:18 PM »
Forgot to vote last round but whatever.

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Onion Knight (Final Fantasy III) vs Jecht (Final Fantasy X): Immunes Stone and WHAT THE SHIT defenses, Jecht's sort of just outclassed here.
Arceus (Pokémon) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII): I'm thinking Pale Horse is what wins it for him here.
Sanger Zonvolt (Super Robot Taisen Series) vs Kuja (Final Fantasy IX): Can't vote.
Elyon (Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter) vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI): Well, Ultima takes down the clones, and does a little damage to Elyon, but he can attack without them, and if he Drain Stalls her, he's not taking any real damage himself, so eventually, she runs out of MP or Morph (which hurts Drain), typing the match in his favor.

Heavy

Blue Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Zidane Tribal (Final Fantasy IX): Ahahaha no to Zidane beating a genuine Heavy like this.
Razeluxe Meitzen (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Knight (Final Fantasy): Can't vote.
Aschen Brodel (Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier) vs Jeremy Non (Wild ARMs 4): Can't vote.
Odie (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters) vs Alicia (Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria): Can't vote.

Middle

Lilianne Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Muppy Oktavia Vondercheck VII (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis): god damn you gust.
Slime (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nino (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword): I just don't respect Slime much at all.
Fauxnel (Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon): Can't vote.
Empoleon (Pokémon) vs Alice Elliot (Shadow Hearts): Kneejerk.

Light

Salvatore (Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss): No.
Labyrinthia Wordsworth (Wild ARMs XF) vs Bernadette Egan (Suikoden V): Kneejerk says Healing > Labby.
Galahad (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters) vs Chidori Yoshino (Persona 3): Can't vote.
Judith (Tales of Vesperia) vs Zhuzhen Liu (Shadow Hearts): Kneejerk says disrespect Zhuzhen.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2009, 04:54:40 PM »
Quote from: Dhyerwolf on October 11, 2009, 07:02:03 AM
Looking at the stat topic, my interp of her evasion is 18% relative and 33% raw against endgame enemies (I think). There definetely could be some middling Lights that she loses too (although she may not have too many issues with defense if her damage is just HIT based since her attacking stat is fine and it's just her mults that blow). Granted...uh...looks like at least 3 people have notable enough crits to go into the damage average, so her damage is arguably even worse.

Guns use (HIT+SPD)/2 for damage.  Don't think it's actually relevant but still.
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Re: Tourney of Interest Season 9 Week 2
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2009, 05:28:59 PM »
Godlike

Onion Knight (Final Fantasy III) vs Jecht (Final Fantasy X)
Arceus (Pokémon) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Sanger Zonvolt (Super Robot Taisen Series) vs Kuja (Final Fantasy IX)
Elyon (Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter) vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI)

Heavy

Blue Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Zidane Tribal (Final Fantasy IX)
Razeluxe Meitzen (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Knight (Final Fantasy)
Aschen Brodel (Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier) vs Jeremy Non (Wild ARMs 4)
Odie (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters) vs Alicia (Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria)

Middle

Lilianne Valendorf (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) vs Muppy Oktavia Vondercheck VII (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)
Slime (Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride) vs Nino (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword)
Fauxnel (Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon)
Empoleon (Pokémon) vs Alice Elliot (Shadow Hearts)

Light

Salvatore (Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)
Labyrinthia Wordsworth (Wild ARMs XF) vs Bernadette Egan (Suikoden V)
Galahad (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters) vs Chidori Yoshino (Persona 3)
Judith (Tales of Vesperia) vs Zhuzhen Liu (Shadow Hearts)
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