How Champ is a Champ (Yukiko vs Middle 2)

[Magic Fanatic]

I don't see why everyone keeps saying that Tear's best damage is Fire, because I really have a hard time as seeing Judgement as outdamaging Grand Cross ON BASE, and and Tear can easily trade out only 800 damage to turn her Grand Cross (Light) -> Searing Sorrow (Fire) combo for Grand Cross (Light) -> Fatal Circle (Wind)...  And considering the second part is running into Yukiko PDEF...  Yeah.

That's not mentioning that if Yukiko doesn't 2HKO (which...  she may miss by a small margin?), Tear can just cast Nightmare, and then heal-lock her into eating a Nightmare -> Frozen Hammer combo, then on the Once More turn, pour the damage bonus from hitting a Knocked Down Yukiko into Grand Cross -> Fatal Circle.  Tear's Pendant is certainly boosting her spell damage here by quite a bit, too, and the stun, while short-lived, will certainly make Yukiko seem at least a LITTLE bit slower than usual.  Tear might just double at some point, thanks to that.

Grand Cross is a 100% Light FoF, which acts as both Fire and Wind FoFs.
Nightmare is a 50% Dark FoF, so it requires two castings on the field, but acts as both Earth and Water FoFs.
Note that FoFs created by casting spells stay on the field for quite some time.

[DjinnAndTonic]

I don't see why everyone keeps saying that Tear's best damage is Fire, because I really have a hard time as seeing Judgement as outdamaging Grand Cross ON BASE, and and Tear can easily trade out only 800 damage to turn her Grand Cross (Light) -> Searing Sorrow (Fire) combo for Grand Cross (Light) -> Fatal Circle (Wind)...  And considering the second part is running into Yukiko PDEF...  Yeah.

That's not mentioning that if Yukiko doesn't 2HKO (which...  she may miss by a small margin?), Tear can just cast Nightmare, and then heal-lock her into eating a Nightmare -> Frozen Hammer combo, then on the Once More turn, pour the damage bonus from hitting a Knocked Down Yukiko into Grand Cross -> Fatal Circle.  Tear's Pendant is certainly boosting her spell damage here by quite a bit, too, and the stun, while short-lived, will certainly make Yukiko seem at least a LITTLE bit slower than usual.  Tear might just double at some point, thanks to that.

Grand Cross is a 100% Light FoF, which acts as both Fire and Wind FoFs.
Nightmare is a 50% Dark FoF, so it requires two castings on the field, but acts as both Earth and Water FoFs.
Note that FoFs created by casting spells stay on the field for quite some time.

I can buy most of those interps, except the bolded part, and I even give ARPG stun a little credit. But it's still a lot of interp calls in Tear's favor. Even if I accept those interps, I still have interps that don't treat ARPG speed as average, so Tear is slow unless she's using physical techs. Never going to double Yukiko. Also, Tales magic is generally very evadeable, so Yukiko pushes back Tear's chances even further. AND she definitely wins the resource war, too.

Nightmare->Frozen Hammer was a nice thought, though.

[Magic Fanatic]

If anything, Tear can then instead use Holy Lance (is faster than Grand Cross) -> Witchcraft (FoF of Enhance Cast) on the first turn.  Speeds up the casting of First Aid, Healing Circle (which is probably her healing of choice, now), Holy Lance, and...  Well, Enhance Cast, but that's besides the point.  It might also work for the Hymns, but she has so much to say during them, the difference really isn't noticeable.  The REAL use of Witchcraft would be the 20% increase to the amount of time it takes to cast anything on Yukiko's end for a full TotA minute.  If Tear's doubling at any point, it's after that.

Tear Turn 1:  Holy Lance -> Witchcraft
Tear Turn 2:  Holy Lance -> Fairy Circle (Healing Circle healing, but with damage on the side!)

Of course, throughout that, I'm pretty certain Yukiko's healing the whole time, for fear of eating the mentioned Grand Cross -> Fatal Circle for the loss.

Then...

Tear Turn 3-?: Nightmare
Turn double: Nightmare -> Frozen Hammer, then Grand Cross -> Fatal Circle.

...Then again, I could be misunderstanding a LOT, and just missing a few critical details.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Speeds up the casting of First Aid, Healing Circle (which is probably her healing of choice, now), Holy Lance, and...  Well, Enhance Cast,  If Tear's doubling at any point, it's after that.

Tear Turn 3-?: Nightmare
Turn double: Nightmare -> Frozen Hammer, then Grand Cross -> Fatal Circle.

If Witchcraft doesn't work on Nightmare, how do you figure Tear's getting a double by spamming Nightmare?

Also, Yukiko MDEF means that she might just resist the sleep if Tear's counting on that for her double. I know the primary purpose of Nightmare is to get that Dark FoF for Frozen Hammer, but if Yukiko's not asleep, she can dodge Frozen Hammer pretty easily.

[Magic Fanatic]

If Witchcraft doesn't work on Nightmare, how do you figure Tear's getting a double by spamming Nightmare?

Also, Yukiko MDEF means that she might just resist the sleep if Tear's counting on that for her double. I know the primary purpose of Nightmare is to get that Dark FoF for Frozen Hammer, but if Yukiko's not asleep, she can dodge Frozen Hammer pretty easily.

Completely not my point that it doesn't work on Nightmare.  The point is that it's making Yukiko's spells 20% slower.

[Monkeyfinger]

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