Author Topic: Tourney of Interest Season 10?! Week 1 (Read 4442 times)

Cmdr_King · « **on:** November 23, 2009, 04:58:58 AM »

Godlike

Ashera (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Fou-Lu (Breath of Fire IV)
Arceus (Pokémon) vs Balasz (Wild ARMs 3)
Mimi the Wonder Baker (Tales of Legendia) vs Empyrea (Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King)
Medic (Etrian Odyssey) vs Raquel Applegate (Wild ARMs 4)

Heavy

Master Monk (Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift) vs Hiro (Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete)
Protector (Etrian Odyssey 2: Heroes of Lagaard) vs Garan (Shadow Hearts: Covenant)
Sieg (Tenkai Star)(Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Geddoe (Suikoden III)
Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia) vs Maxim (Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals)

Middle

Gunner (Etrian Odyssey 2: Heroes of Lagaard) vs Oswin (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword)
Gillian Clout (Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island) vs Raven (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword)
Mistral (.hack Series) vs Lucca (Chrono Trigger)
Andarc (Suikoden Tactics) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon)

Light

Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)
Norma Beatty (Tales of Legendia) vs Raijin (Final Fantasy VIII)
Jeanne (Jeanne D'Arc) vs Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (Wild ARMs 2)
HK-47 (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) vs Thomas (Suikoden III)

The Madness Continues... Next Week!

Dhyerwolf · « **Reply #1 on:** November 23, 2009, 05:19:55 AM »

Godlike
Wonder Baker (Tales of Legendia) vs Empyrea (Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King)- Woo, an obscure sidequest boss in an already long as hell game.

Heavy
Seig (Tenkai Star)(Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Geddoe (Suikoden III)- Maces are ridiculous.

Middle
Andarc (Suikoden Tactics) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon)- Andarc has a 75% chance of Counters, and maybe 30% damage on his physical, so Meru isn't seeing that second turn by my view.

Light
Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)
Norma Beatty (Tales of Legendia) vs Raijin (Final Fantasy VIII)- Ugh. Your ToL match choices are torturous.

Ultradude · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2009, 05:47:50 AM »

Mistral (.hack Series) vs Lucca (Chrono Trigger)

I'll... do this later... just posting so I remember that I can actually vote on something here.

Random Consonant · « **Reply #3 on:** November 23, 2009, 05:56:37 AM »

Master Monk (Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift) vs Hiro (Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete) - Seems simple enough.

Gunner (Etrian Odyssey 2: Heroes of Lagaard) vs Oswin (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) - Maybe if Armshot disabled basic physicals instead of weakening them.
Gillian Clout (Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island) vs Raven (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) - EDIT: Mmm, okay, Medijuice should buy her a win here.

Pyro · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2009, 07:44:50 AM »

Godlike

Ashera (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Fou-Lu (Breath of Fire IV): D'oh ITD damage. Goodbye.
Wonder Baker (Tales of Legendia) vs Empyrea (Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King): Physical power overwhelming works.

Heavy

Protector (Etrian Odyssey 2: Heroes of Lagaard) vs Garan (Shadow Hearts: Covenant): I didn't use a Protector.
Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia) vs Maxim (Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals): Uh.... Someone pinch me if Maxim could resist fire. If so Rita can't break through his healing I'm sure and he immunes ID.

Middle

Gunner (Etrian Odyssey 2: Heroes of Lagaard) vs Oswin (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword): Didn't use a Gunner either.
Mistral (.hack Series) vs Lucca (Chrono Trigger): Who the hell remembers .hack fighting?

Light

Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss): Not sure, leaning Millie?
Norma Beatty (Tales of Legendia) vs Raijin (Final Fantasy VIII): Screw Raijin.
Jeanne (Jeanne D'Arc) vs Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (Wild ARMs 2): CK you are a WHORE. A DIRTHY FILTHY WHORE. I'm assuming she does this before he IDs her.
HK-47 (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) vs Thomas (Suikoden III): Who remembers what KH-47 can do? I sure don't.

Dhyerwolf · « **Reply #5 on:** November 23, 2009, 08:48:07 AM »

Quote from: Pyro on November 23, 2009, 07:44:50 AM

Jeanne (Jeanne D'Arc) vs Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (Wild ARMs 2): CK you are a WHORE. A DIRTHY FILTHY WHORE. I'm assuming she does this before he IDs her.

Shouldn't Vinsfield's 4HKO magic and uh...a counter actually be too much for Jeanne?

Yoshiken · « **Reply #6 on:** November 23, 2009, 10:55:48 AM »

Godlike
Ashera (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Fou-Lu (Breath of Fire IV) - Lack of Ashera respect.

OblivionKnight · « **Reply #7 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:35:53 AM »

Godlike

Ashera (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Fou-Lu (Breath of Fire IV) - Ashera.
Arceus (Pokémon) vs Balasz (Wild ARMs 3) - Balasz
Wonder Baker (Tales of Legendia) vs Empyrea (Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King) - It's Mimi, damnit. And she wins >_>

Heavy

Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia) vs Maxim (Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals) - ....Maxim. DAMN YOU. Rita ;_;

Middle

Mistral (.hack Series) vs Lucca (Chrono Trigger) - Uh...bleh. I barely remember .hack. Lucca.
Andarc (Suikoden Tactics) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon) - Meru.

Light

Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss) - Can't technically vote, since I've only played SO1o...but Millie wins in that one.
Norma Beatty (Tales of Legendia) vs Raijin (Final Fantasy VIII) - Raijin.
HK-47 (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) vs Thomas (Suikoden III) - HK.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #8 on:** November 23, 2009, 03:16:55 PM »

Quote from: Dhyerwolf on November 23, 2009, 08:48:07 AM

Quote from: Pyro on November 23, 2009, 07:44:50 AM
Jeanne (Jeanne D'Arc) vs Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (Wild ARMs 2): CK you are a WHORE. A DIRTHY FILTHY WHORE. I'm assuming she does this before he IDs her.

Shouldn't Vinsfield's 4HKO magic and uh...a counter actually be too much for Jeanne?

Vinsfield actually 4HKOs?

dude789 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2009, 03:44:33 PM »

Quote from: Dhyerwolf on November 23, 2009, 08:48:07 AM

Quote from: Pyro on November 23, 2009, 07:44:50 AM
Jeanne (Jeanne D'Arc) vs Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (Wild ARMs 2): CK you are a WHORE. A DIRTHY FILTHY WHORE. I'm assuming she does this before he IDs her.

Shouldn't Vinsfield's 4HKO magic and uh...a counter actually be too much for Jeanne?

IIRC Jeanne gets fully healed when she transforms and she can do that on turn 3 I think?

alanna82 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2009, 05:49:17 PM »

Ashera (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Fou-Lu (Breath of Fire IV)

Heavy

Master Monk (Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift) vs Hiro (Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete)
Sieg (Tenkai Star)(Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Geddoe (Suikoden III)- Suiko Tierkries hero has a name?

Middle

Andarc (Suikoden Tactics) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon)

Light

Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)- Millie fails
Norma Beatty (Tales of Legendia) vs Raijin (Final Fantasy VIII)- Raijin fails

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2009, 06:08:09 PM »

*smacks OK* If I meant one specific version I'd say that dammit.

Talaysen · « **Reply #12 on:** November 23, 2009, 07:48:40 PM »

Godlike

Ashera (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Fou-Lu (Breath of Fire IV) - I think he had some MT to get rid of that pesky support and then beatdowns commence.
Arceus (Pokémon) vs Balasz (Wild ARMs 3) - He might actually be faster.
Mimi the Wonder Baker (Tales of Legendia) vs Empyrea (Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King)
Medic (Etrian Odyssey) vs Raquel Applegate (Wild ARMs 4) - I think? Will probably look at it again later.

Heavy

Master Monk (Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift) vs Hiro (Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete)
Protector (Etrian Odyssey 2: Heroes of Lagaard) vs Garan (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) - Garan is all ST? Welp.
Sieg (Tenkai Star)(Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Geddoe (Suikoden III) - Hashed this out in chat. Sieg gets one turn, then Geddoe uses Hammer of Raijin -> Soaring Bolt for the KO.
Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia) vs Maxim (Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals) - BlahblahblahMETEOR STORM

Middle

Gunner (Etrian Odyssey 2: Heroes of Lagaard) vs Oswin (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) - lol gunner uses haltshot and shoots him from afar
Gillian Clout (Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island) vs Raven (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword) - She should be able to handle this at least.
Mistral (.hack Series) vs Lucca (Chrono Trigger) - Hm, right, MDef hype. I think I can buy that.
Andarc (Suikoden Tactics) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon) - Sure, I'll buy that too.

Light

Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss) - Healing I guess.
Norma Beatty (Tales of Legendia) vs Raijin (Final Fantasy VIII) - Raijin
Jeanne (Jeanne D'Arc) vs Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (Wild ARMs 2)
HK-47 (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) vs Thomas (Suikoden III)

OblivionKnight · « **Reply #13 on:** November 23, 2009, 08:06:59 PM »

Quote from: Cmdr_King on November 23, 2009, 04:58:58 AM

Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)

It looks like a specified version to me >_>

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #14 on:** November 23, 2009, 08:23:26 PM »

*smacks* It would involve asterixes

For example, from next week... Elincia (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)*
*Please vote specifically on this version of this character.

Dhyerwolf · « **Reply #15 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:24:48 PM »

Just for fun, thought I'd math out Meru vs. Andarc if you allowed half started SP (Let's say 3 levels). Taking the nicer damage average for Meru (Kill Point of 3255; 3090 against Andarc). Meru is 127% speed, Andarc is 96% (She barely misses the 4/3, especially considering that her first turn speed is more like 114%).

Meru 1: Blue Sea Dragon. Andarc about cuts magic by 27%, so he takes 1530.
Andarc 1: Lightning Panel. Andarc heals 618 HP.
Meru 2: Freezing Ring. Does 765.
Andarc 2: Lightning Panel. Andarc heals 618 HP.
Meru 3: Freezing Ring. Does 765. And she's out of MP. Out of Dragoon form.
Andarc 3: Attack.
Meru 4: Attack...and 75% chance of eating a counter, at which point she's dead. She can now Defend forever and hope that he doesn't slowly overcome her (But if he takes a turn for Lightning panels, he likely will, and she's likely eating that Counter, which she hates).

Alternate strategy is so try to just use Freezing Rings so that she doesn't run out of MP! After all, she has 10 Freezing Rings and he only has 9 shots of Lightning Panels. This means no MP for healing, and that she'll need to enter Dragoon form several times (Which means attacking several times, which mean engaging counters several times. Given that her PDur even after transformation isn't that amazing, a Counter+Going to Dragoon form where she can't Defend+Healing being met by his evil buffing....I don't think it's impossible that she could win, but it seems like the cards are notably stacked against her. Meru versus decent physical counters is kind of a hideous thing.

OblivionKnight · « **Reply #16 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:53:30 PM »

Quote from: Cmdr_King on November 23, 2009, 08:23:26 PM

*smacks* It would involve asterixes

For example, from next week... Elincia (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)*
*Please vote specifically on this version of this character.

First time you've specified it! When you write down a game, I assume, since it's Tourney of Interest, that it's that specific game form.

dude789 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:53:31 AM »

Godlike

Ashera (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn) vs Fou-Lu (Breath of Fire IV)
Arceus (Pokémon) vs Balasz (Wild ARMs 3) Easily faster
Mimi the Wonder Baker (Tales of Legendia) vs Empyrea (Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King)

Heavy

Master Monk (Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift) vs Hiro (Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete)
Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia) vs Maxim (Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals)

Middle

Mistral (.hack Series) vs Lucca (Chrono Trigger) .hack mages have rediculous mdef.

Light

Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)
Norma Beatty (Tales of Legendia) vs Raijin (Final Fantasy VIII)
Jeanne (Jeanne D'Arc) vs Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (Wild ARMs 2)

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #18 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:31:14 AM »

I'm pretty sure we had this discussion last time in which I said more or less the same thing!

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #19 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:55:01 AM »

You two need to be thwacked upside the head with a rolled-up newspaper.

Arceus (Pokémon) vs Balasz (Wild ARMs 3) - He probably is faster.

Andarc (Suikoden Tactics) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon) - I honestly don't care.

Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss) - I suspect Luke scrapes a 2HKO on Millie and her buffing is trash, which means that he's eventually Overlimiting and handling her. Rather close, though.

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #20 on:** November 24, 2009, 06:18:08 AM »

Middle

Mistral (.hack Series) vs Lucca (Chrono Trigger)- Only match I can vote on. .hack mage mdef > most. Has a ridiculous skillset and magic is good damage.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #21 on:** November 24, 2009, 06:30:24 AM »

Arceus (Pokémon) vs Balasz (Wild ARMs 3) - Easy.
Wonder Baker (Tales of Legendia) vs Empyrea (Dragon Quest VIII) - Hey, it's ToL! I forgot that existed.

Heavy

Master Monk (Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift) vs Hiro (Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete) - Just going off the stat topic here. Note: FFTA2 looks fun. Must play that.
Sieg (Tenkai Star)(Suikoden Tierkreis) vs Geddoe (Suikoden III) - ;_; And this.
Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia) vs Maxim (Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals) - Uses her nigh-infinite magic combo to one-turn. It's close though.

Middle

Mistral (.hack Series) vs Lucca (Chrono Trigger) - Hey, I played 3 hours of .hack! Yeah, I don't remember enough for this.
Andarc (Suikoden Tactics) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon) - And LoD finally stumbles into a match where my 'Additions > Counters' interp matters.

Light

Millie Chliette (Star Ocean: First Depature) vs Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss) - Okay, Luke is a low Middle, this isn't that hard.
Norma Beatty (Tales of Legendia) vs Raijin (Final Fantasy VIII) - Dear God Norma, suck a little less. *sigh* Why am I cursed with -liking- most Tales mages? (not-Genis ones anyway).
Jeanne (Jeanne D'Arc) vs Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus (Wild ARMs 2) - Allowing swordsmen to use the high-level swordskills should push Jeanne's damage into more respectable levels anyway, but turn 3 full healing + awesome stat/damage boost works too.
HK-47 (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) vs Thomas (Suikoden III) - DIAF.

Monkeyfinger · « **Reply #22 on:** November 24, 2009, 08:24:59 AM »

Godlike

Arceus (Pokémon) vs Balasz (Wild ARMs 3): Yeah, his speed's really high.

Light

HK-47 (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) vs Thomas (Suikoden III): Both have sad damage, both have really good accuracy to cancel each other's evade. HK has good HP and random stunning, Thomas has neither. Slaughter.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #23 on:** November 24, 2009, 11:45:43 AM »

Quote from: DjinnAndTonic on November 24, 2009, 06:30:24 AM

Andarc (Suikoden Tactics) vs Meru (Legend of Dragoon) - And LoD finally stumbles into a match where my 'Additions > Counters' interp matters.

I have to ask... why? Additions are counterable in-game just fine.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #24 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:50:28 PM »

Because Addition require correct button inputs, and enemies can attempt to counter mid-Addition which LoD characters can overcome by pushing the correct button sequence. I'm aware there are other counters in LoD, but I simply see those as 'better than normal' counters and allow Additions to overcome most counters. *shrugs* It makes enough sense to me and it's interesting.

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