Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 22

[Nephrite]

"The wheel of time continues to turn. Let us see if you can succeed where others have failed."

Team Monkey vs. Floor 6
Team Djinn & Consonant vs. Floor 2
Team Bardiche vs. Floor 6

Team Monkey's Matches

Floor 7b: Cave of the Summons

Battle #31: Rydia, FF5 Ifrit, Titan, Shiva, Ramuh and Mist Dragon

Rydia: You may have made it this far, but I will stop you here with the help of my friends!

Battle #32: FF5 Atomos

Atomos: I shall... devour... you.

Battle #33: Gilgamesh, Garnet and FF5 Carbuncle

Gilgamesh: Hey, I summoned a friend once!
Garnet: Let us have a fair battle.

Battle #34: FF3 Summoner, FF5 Summoner, FFT Summoner and Eiko

Eiko: I won't let you do as you please!!

Boss Battle #7: Yuna and her Aeons

Yuna: Yuna here! Now... let us go.



Team Consonant's Matches

Floor 3b: Multiples (Before Midgame)

So you want to try multiple foes? Let's see how you like this, then!

*All ST is MT for this floor. ALL of it.

Battle FF1 White Wizard, FF1 Knight, FF1 Ninja and FF1 Red Wiz

Knight: Let us go, fellow warriors!
White Wiz: Yes, we shall not allow your passage here!

Battle #12: Yosuke and Tengaar

Yosuke: GO, SUSANOO!!!
Tengaar: HIX!! ...Oh you're not here...

Battle #13: Kanji, Ramza, Tidus and Crono

Kanji: Crush 'em, Rokuten-Maoh!!
Ramza: Of course, Alma!!
Tidus: Heh heh! Let's go!

Battle #14: Yuna, Rand and Marle

Yuna: I will not allow you to pass!
Rand: I'll fight you.
Marle: *pats her butt

Boss Battle #4: Nina4, Yulie, Jane and FFT Chemist

Nina: I'm afraid I can't let you through here.
Jess: Er... um... ...I think it'll be okay?
Porom: I will defeat you all!


Team Gatewalker's Matches

Floor 1: A Re-introduction (The Beginning)

"Ho ho ho ho! You've decided to return! Let us see what you can accomplish."

Battle #1: Palmer and Mist Dragon

Palmer: Muahaha! I am Science!!
Mist Dragon: Turn back!

Battle #2: Steelix, Shuckle and FF1 Knight

Knight: You shall not pass here!

Battle #3: Marle, Alice and FFT Priest

Marle: Yeah! Let's go!
Alice: Yuri...

Battle #4: Lich

Lich: I will... devour you...

Boss Battle #1: Change Relic

*The team has been fully healed!

"Welcome to Monado Mandala! Here, you shall die!"

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Team Monkey | Jessica, Mew (Firefly), Rosa, Lucian & Shiho
[Floor 7b: Cave of the Summons]
Team Monkey vs. Rydia, FF5 Ifrit, FF5 Titan, FF5 Shiva, FF5 Ramuh and Mist Dragon
Team Monkey vs. FF5 Atomos
*Full Heal*
Team Monkey vs. Gilgamesh, Garnet and FF5 Carbuncle
Team Monkey vs. FF3 Summoner, FF5 Summoner, FFT Summoner and Eiko
*Full Heal*
Team Monkey vs. Yuna's Aeon Chain (Yuna's aeons are fought one at a time as one continuous battle. When one is defeated the next one is summoned. Buffs and status carry over from one fight to the next. Order is predetermined as Valefor-Ifrit-Ixion-Shiva-Bahamut-Yojimbo-Anima-Magus 3 and then Aeonless Yuna)  

Team Consonant | Celes, Alys, Lucian & Shiho, Ayla (Life)
[Floor 3b: Multiples]
[Espers: Siren, Kirin (Mastered) | Shoat, Carbuncle]
*All ST is MT
Team Consonant vs. FF1 White Wizard, Knight, Ninja and Red Wizard
Team Consonant vs. Yosuke and Tengaar
Team Consonant vs. Kanji, Ramza, Tidus (Caladbolg) and Crono
*Full Heal
Team Consonant vs. Yuna, Rand and Marle
Team Consonant vs. Jane, Yulie, FFT Chemist and Nina4

Team Djinn | Cloud, Raquel, Aika. Tear, Aeris  (Violent Burst Law)
[Materia: Cover (Mastered), Revive (Mastered), Transform]
[Floor 3b: Multiples]
*All ST is MT
Team Djinn vs. FF1 White Wizard, Knight, Ninja and Red Wizard
Team Djinn vs. Yosuke and Tengaar
Team Djinn vs. Kanji, Ramza, Tidus (Caladbolg) and Crono
*Full Heal
Team Djinn vs. Yuna, Rand and Marle
Team Djinn vs. Jane, Yulie, FFT Chemist and Nina4

Team Gatewalker | Fogel, Aeonless Yuna, Eileen, Tia, Ditto (Quick Powder)(w/MT)
[Floor 1: An Introduction]
Team Gatewalker vs. Palmer and Mist Dragon
Team Gatewalker vs. Steelix, Shuckle and FF1 Knight
Team Gatewalker vs. Marle, Alice and FFT Priest
Team Gatewalker vs. Lich (FF1)
*Full Heal
Team Gatewalker vs. Change Relic

Multitarget - One person on the team's actions all become Multitargetted. However, the damage of regular attacks, the healing of all spells that restore HP or MP, the status rates of status spells or attacks and the effect of buffs or debuffs (rounded down to the nearest half point in the case of Pokemon) is reduced to 100%/X, where X is the number of targets. (Deadly Fingertips would have a 33% chance to hit 3 targets, or a 100% chance to hit 1 target)

Life - One character's healing effects now also allows for revival, but reduces the final effect of any healing by 50%. (This means full healing is always 50%) The healing also only revives characters with 1 HP.

Violent Burst Law - Characters with game-specific gauges begin each floor with them at 100%. They charge at 50% of their normal rates.

Djinn's team will go up when he tells me what floor he wants to go to.  

[Random Consonant]

Team Consonant | Celes, Alys, Lucian & Shiho, Ayla (Life)
[Floor 3b: Multiples]
[Espers: Siren, Kirin (Mastered) | Shoat, Carbuncle]
Floor 3b
*All ST is MT
Team Consonant vs. FF1 White Wizard, Knight, Ninja and Red Wizard - Lucian and Ayla do their thing.
Team Consonant vs. Yosuke and Tengaar - Death
Team Consonant vs. Kanji, Ramza, Tidus (Caladbolg) and Crono - Crono does something, Alys takes out everyone except Ramza, who can't accomplish much on his own.
*Full Heal
Team Consonant vs. Yuna, Rand and Marle - Death, assuming Alys is faster, if not, then Yuna casts Holy, maybe takes out Ayla.  Alys throws up Saner, Shiho revives, Lucian smacks people, Celes heals.  Rand might be able to do something but Alys is now definitely faster than Yuna and proceeds to press the "I win" button.
Team Consonant vs. Jane, Yulie, FFT Chemist and Nina4 - Okay, Jane uses Follow Me, people do stuff, but that's largely irrelevent, since regardless of what Yulie does, my people still get turns and proceed to bring large amounts of physical pain.  If Jane evasion gets hyped, she just gets hit with whatever lethal status I have available that isn't blocked by her.

Gate has freakin' Fogel on floor 1 and people that aren't actively trying to kill him so he passes.  Pretty sure Monkey's got this floor handled as well, so he passes too.  Abstain on Djinn as usual.

[Monkeyfinger]

Team Monkey | Jessica, Mew (Firefly), Rosa, Lucian & Shiho
[Floor 7b: Cave of the Summons]
Team Monkey vs. Rydia, FF5 Ifrit, FF5 Titan, FF5 Shiva, FF5 Ramuh and Mist Dragon: Magic Burst, bring out the dustbuster. (Ifrit'll live but an ST wonder like him won't do anything that sticks.)
Team Monkey vs. FF5 Atomos: Atomos is a joke against a party in good shape, really. He overkills someone (Mew) then gives average speed parties 3 turns while he does the suck towards thing. Buffed Lucian alone carves him up.
*Full Heal*
Team Monkey vs. Gilgamesh, Garnet and FF5 Carbuncle: Yeah, Gilgamesh doesn't deal well with firefly at all. He can cripple Mew with a status but not kill him, so he keeps wasting his actions on Mew. Jess accels, VP folks kill Garnet, Rosa keeps Carbuncle's damage unter control until Gilgamesh dies, then round robin heal to full and take out Carbuncle.
Team Monkey vs. FF3 Summoner, FF5 Summoner, FFT Summoner and Eiko: Magic Burst, bring out the dustbuster. (Eiko'll live but team Valkyrie will fix that in a hurry.)
*Full Heal*
Team Monkey vs. Yuna's Aeon Chain (Yuna's aeons are fought one at a time as one continuous battle. When one is defeated the next one is summoned. Buffs and status carry over from one fight to the next. Order is predetermined as Valefor-Ifrit-Ixion-Shiva-Bahamut-Yojimbo-Anima-Magus 3 and then Aeonless Yuna): Easiest one. First 6 Aeons are joke, Anima ID's Mew then dies, Magus sisters get magic bursted (Jess'll have most of her MP for that, all she has to do before that is cast accel a couple times), Yuna herself gets held by Rosa unless she casts reflect in which case Rosa spams dispel while everyone else beats the shit out of Yuna.

Team Consonant | Celes, Alys, Lucian & Shiho, Ayla (Life)
[Floor 3b: Multiples]
[Espers: Siren, Kirin (Mastered) | Shoat, Carbuncle]
Floor 3b
*All ST is MT
Team Consonant vs. FF1 White Wizard, Knight, Ninja and Red Wizard: Oh dear. These FF1 guys all block ID and outspeed Celes. Though... Saner should solve that. Lucian gets a buff and kills... Ninja. The FF1 guys can mob Shiho and kill her but Ayla brings her back, and 2 attacks from Celes + another one from Lucian puts the FF1 team on death's door.
Team Consonant vs. Yosuke and Tengaar: MT death.
Team Consonant vs. Kanji, Ramza, Tidus (Caladbolg) and Crono: MT death.
*Full Heal
Team Consonant vs. Yuna, Rand and Marle: MT Death.
Team Consonant vs. Jane, Yulie, FFT Chemist and Nina4: I think all these enemies have ID blockers. I'm sure on all of them except Jane. Consonant has no powerful MT blitz, and his rather brutal ST beatings don't make much headway vs. FOUR revivers. I dunno, he might actually die here. I'll await discussion.

Team Gatewalker | Fogel, Aeonless Yuna, Eileen, Tia, Ditto (Quick Powder)(w/MT)
[Floor 1: An Introduction]
Passes, Fogel.

[Random Consonant]

Monkey, concerning the last fight, Celes has Break by now and the enemy team sorta fails at damage, never mind that my team has its own buffs and a healer with infinite resources.  It shouldn't be a problem at all.

[Monkeyfinger]

CONSONANT PASSES, MY GOD TRYING TO EDIT POSTS ON THIS FORUM IS A PAIN IN THE ASS SOMETIMES.



Anyway. Sleep or mute Yulie, kill Nina outright. Chemist is too overburdened to turn that around.

[Nephrite]

CONSONANT PASSES, MY GOD TRYING TO EDIT POSTS ON THIS FORUM IS A PAIN IN THE ASS SOMETIMES.



Anyway. Sleep or mute Yulie, kill Nina outright. Chemist is too overburdened to turn that around.

Monkey, disabling status (paralyze, etc) bypass Firefly if the target has them.

[Monkeyfinger]

Gilgamesh still needs to stop mew first for fear of safeguard, and status healing on Mew still forces him to do it again. I don't think that hitch changes much, actually.

[Yoshiken]

Monkey, on Consonant's last fight, it's the MT floor. That ST blitz is now MT and very likely to destroy things.

[VySaika]

Mokey passes. His team is very well built to handle this floor.

Random also passes. Respect for Lucian damage getting MTd is +++, so yeah.

I easily pass as well. It's Fogel on floor 1.

[Magic Fanatic]

Later
Team Monkey | Jessica, Mew (Firefly), Rosa, Lucian & Shiho
[Floor 7b: Cave of the Summons]
Team Monkey vs. Rydia, FF5 Ifrit, FF5 Titan, FF5 Shiva, FF5 Ramuh and Mist Dragon
Team Monkey vs. FF5 Atomos
*Full Heal*
Team Monkey vs. Gilgamesh, Garnet and FF5 Carbuncle
Team Monkey vs. FF3 Summoner, FF5 Summoner, FFT Summoner and Eiko
*Full Heal*
Team Monkey vs. Yuna's Aeon Chain (Yuna's aeons are fought one at a time as one continuous battle. When one is defeated the next one is summoned. Buffs and status carry over from one fight to the next. Order is predetermined as Valefor-Ifrit-Ixion-Shiva-Bahamut-Yojimbo-Anima-Magus 3 and then Aeonless Yuna) - I...  Don't see Monkey's team as fully built to deal with this, and takes a dirt nap during the parade.  Wow, this team is a lot better than I gave it credit for.  Learned a lot of new stuff about VP, at that.

Team Consonant | Celes, Alys, Lucian & Shiho, Ayla (Life)
[Floor 3b: Multiples]
[Espers: Siren, Kirin (Mastered) | Shoat, Carbuncle]
Floor 3b
*All ST is MT
Team Consonant vs. FF1 White Wizard, Knight, Ninja and Red Wizard - They win if you see Lucian as going before these guys (hard to say...  VP wins against average speed physicals, but loses to average speed magic?  Who knows?  Who cares?).  If not, then Ruse x3 and then Fast, since the team is rather physically reliant for damage.  But...  If you see VP as winning tiebreaks all-around, then yeah, this works.
Team Consonant vs. Yosuke and Tengaar - Tentarafoo is the only thing that can even think to cause worry, and it's not enough.  Yosuke lives through Death!...  And then is killed right afterwards.
Team Consonant vs. Kanji, Ramza, Tidus (Caladbolg) and Crono - RC is wrong, both Ramza AND Kanji live through Death!...  Not that that matters, since that more-than-1-SD-below-average speed sinks him anyway.  Then it's still Ramza vs. the whole party.
*Full Heal
Team Consonant vs. Yuna, Rand and Marle - Yeah, it's basically Alys speed vs. Yuna speed...  Dunno which I see going first, because in whoever does, they win?  I dunno, if Ayla's getting taken out, then Shiho's definitely going down (having assumed average defense and JUST low enough HP that Holy barely kills - Holy is 83% Kill Point damage, and Shiho is only 81% HP).  I dunno, Alys throwing up Saner might work well enough, but can Yuna and Rand be kept alive while Marle is killed?  If she's left alive, then...  MT Haste for the party, woo?  Ah well, Alys is probably faster.
Team Consonant vs. Jane, Yulie, FFT Chemist and Nina4 - Follow Me! -> Nina4 Typhoon -> Yulie Sacrifice -> Chemist X-Potion on Yulie worries me a bit, but then I was reassured that Sacrifice is only a 2HKO with Nina's 6HKO.  So.


Team Djinn | Cloud, Raquel, Aika. Tear, Aeris  (Violent Burst Law)
[Materia: Cover (Mastered), Revive (Mastered), Transform]
[Floor 3b: Multiples]
*All ST is MT
Team Djinn vs. FF1 White Wizard, Knight, Ninja and Red Wizard - Delta Shield, Cloud limit.
Team Djinn vs. Yosuke and Tengaar - Delta Shield, Raquel gets turns.
Team Djinn vs. Kanji, Ramza, Tidus (Caladbolg) and Crono - Delta Shield, Raquel gets turns.
*Full Heal
Team Djinn vs. Yuna, Rand and Marle - Delta Shield, Raquel gets turns.
Team Djinn vs. Jane, Yulie, FFT Chemist and Nina4 - Now this...  Is actually kind of worrying.  It's an initiative battle between Jane and Aika, and...  Jane might be a bit faster?  Looking back on it, I don't think they can manage to kill even Aeris with whatever options they have, and then eat the Seal Evil.  Game.

Doesn't Delta Shield catch Cloud's attempt at casting Transform Materia spells, or am I missing something?


Team Gatewalker | Fogel, Aeonless Yuna, Eileen, Tia, Ditto (Quick Powder)(w/MT)
[Floor 1: An Introduction]
Team Gatewalker vs. Palmer and Mist Dragon
Team Gatewalker vs. Steelix, Shuckle and FF1 Knight
Team Gatewalker vs. Marle, Alice and FFT Priest
Team Gatewalker vs. Lich (FF1)
*Full Heal
Team Gatewalker vs. Change Relic - Fogel on F1 hype.

[Random Consonant]

RC is wrong, both Ramza AND Kanji live through Death!...  Not that that matters, since that more-than-1-SD-below-average speed sinks him anyway.  Then it's still Ramza vs. the whole party.

How is Kanji resisting Death?  It checks AGI (his is awful) and nothing in the stat topic indicates that he has any form of ID immunity.

I dunno, if Ayla's getting taken out, then Shiho's definitely going down (having assumed average defense and JUST low enough HP that Holy barely kills - Holy is 83% Kill Point damage, and Shiho is only 81% HP)

Shiho is a mage and therefore has good Resist.  Probably not hugely significant, but she only needs to reduce the damage slightly in order to live.

[Magic Fanatic]

RC is wrong, both Ramza AND Kanji live through Death!...  Not that that matters, since that more-than-1-SD-below-average speed sinks him anyway.  Then it's still Ramza vs. the whole party.

How is Kanji resisting Death?  It checks AGI (his is awful) and nothing in the stat topic indicates that he has any form of ID immunity.

All Persona 4 characters have an OBP Endure effect for being at least S-Link 9.  If I'm reading this correctly, the Death sends him right to 1 HP instead of killing him outright.  It's the same for Yosuke.

I dunno, if Ayla's getting taken out, then Shiho's definitely going down (having assumed average defense and JUST low enough HP that Holy barely kills - Holy is 83% Kill Point damage, and Shiho is only 81% HP)

Shiho is a mage and therefore has good Resist.  Probably not hugely significant, but she only needs to reduce the damage slightly in order to live.

You know, it might actually help if the Stat topic were to post these important things...  Like assumed MDEF.

How important is VP Resist anyway?

[Random Consonant]

RC is wrong, both Ramza AND Kanji live through Death!...  Not that that matters, since that more-than-1-SD-below-average speed sinks him anyway.  Then it's still Ramza vs. the whole party.

How is Kanji resisting Death?  It checks AGI (his is awful) and nothing in the stat topic indicates that he has any form of ID immunity.

All Persona 4 characters have an OBP Endure effect for being at least S-Link 9.  If I'm reading this correctly, the Death sends him right to 1 HP instead of killing him outright.  It's the same for Yosuke.

I dunno, if Ayla's getting taken out, then Shiho's definitely going down (having assumed average defense and JUST low enough HP that Holy barely kills - Holy is 83% Kill Point damage, and Shiho is only 81% HP)

Shiho is a mage and therefore has good Resist.  Probably not hugely significant, but she only needs to reduce the damage slightly in order to live.

You know, it might actually help if the Stat topic were to post these important things...  Like assumed MDEF.

How important is VP Resist anyway?

Right, Endure.  Bleh.  Forgot about that.

As for VP Resist, I'm honestly unsure on that point.  I've been told that VP1 defensive stats were decent, though, so I'd be surprised if it didn't make enough of a difference here.

[Nephrite]

Djinn's matches are up now.

[Yoshiken]

Kneejerking that all teams pass. Monkey has Magic Burst, Random has Death and Lucian, Djinn has Transform and Raquel, and Gate has 5 Fogels. (Yup, that's how I'm going to interp MT Transform, at least~)

[SnowFire]

Mm.  So Ditto with an MT sealstone for real?  Right.  Okay...  definitely disagree with Yoshiken's interpretation, it never transforms other people from my understanding.  Here's what I'm going to go with.  Transform targets the entire field...  but at 50% accuracy.  IOW, in a duel, Ditto would have a 50% chance of transforming into his opponent and 50% chance of nothing happening.  In a big match, Ditto would have a 50% shot of every other legal target.  If multiple targets "succeed," then they all occur, but only the last one matters as each overwrites the previous.  Since the targeting is one action, Gatewalker can choose how he'd like to stack the triggers, Magic: The Gathering style, such that his preferred choice always resolves last (if it succeeded).  IOW, if among 5 legal targets Ditto had a priority of A-B-C-D-E, he'd stack the triggers in reverse order so that if A succeeds, it overwrites the rest.  With the same example, Gate would have a 50% chance of Ditto becoming target A, a 25% chance of B, 12.5% of C, 6.25% of D, 3.12% of E, and 1.56% chance of a failed transformation.  Fair enough for RPGMon...  but in the dungeon, this basically means Gate can't really count on Ditto becoming who he wants it to become, or even of one of his top two choices consistently.

TL;DR version: I'd recommend moving the MT sealstone elsewhere for both effectiveness and reduction of headaches (at least for me), as comedic potential has already been achieved with using it once.  But your call!

As for the actual match....  uh, how does the Lich fight go?  Sure, Fogel drops some beats early, but Lich Holds him.  And I think everyone else *completely fails* at offense and also doesn't hit Lich's weakness.  And I don't think anyone has any paralysis healing either.  Now, Hold doesn't last forever, which makes Lich pretty bad in a team setting, but Eileen & Tia thwacks probably don't scare Lich, and this could theoretically be close.  Lich is doing something like Hold Fogel -> 3 MT ICE2s -> Hold Fogel again...  hrmm.   And only Fogel's first hit is fast, he doesn't get his whole chain off before Lich Holds him.  Ditto....  Ditto actually probably wins this, either giving 5 more shots of Yuna's Cure or else throwing Lich's own Fire magic back at him (EDIT: Never mind, checking the stat topic, Transform copies elemental strengths / weaknesses, so if Ditto does this he gets Explodeaded by MT FIR2).  Ugh.  If he becomes Fogel he also can slow up Lich's offense by forcing him to HOLD another person.  So...  Fogel's the best option, then maybe Yuna.  Eh, still a 75% chance of that happening.  Pass to Gatewalker, but yeah, Ditto actually matters here.  (Unless Tia has a Fire spell straight-out, which would change my vote.)

Team Monkey passes.  Woo Magic Burst on Floor 7 with Full Heals.

Team Djinn passes off brutal MT Transform shenanigans against mostly PCs.  Aika ensures that Cloud has time to live.

Not entirely sure on Team Consonant but leaning pass there, too.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Team Monkey | Jessica, Mew (Firefly), Rosa, Lucian & Shiho
[Floor 7b: Cave of the Summons]
Team Monkey vs. Rydia, FF5 Ifrit, FF5 Titan, FF5 Shiva, FF5 Ramuh and Mist Dragon - Wow, Magic Burst really suits this floor.
Team Monkey vs. FF5 Atomos - Due to the upcoming Full Heal, the rest of the team can go all-out here, too.
*Full Heal*
Team Monkey vs. Gilgamesh, Garnet and FF5 Carbuncle - Hmm. This is the trouble fight. Can't count on Magic Burst due to Carbuncle's reflect. And if Mew gets statused-out, then the squishy team members are in trouble. Additionally, we're at the stage where Mew's massive stats edge is starting to look dull(er) compared to fully-evolved 'mon. The team has to concentrate on keeping Mew alive and trying to keep Gilgy under control. I think it overwhelms them, but I'll abstain for now.
Team Monkey vs. FF3 Summoner, FF5 Summoner, FFT Summoner and Eiko - If they make it past the last fight with even just Jess and Lucian, they should be able to handle these guys.
*Full Heal*
Team Monkey vs. Yuna's Aeon Chain (Yuna's aeons are fought one at a time as one continuous battle. When one is defeated the next one is summoned. Buffs and status carry over from one fight to the next. Order is predetermined as Valefor-Ifrit-Ixion-Shiva-Bahamut-Yojimbo-Anima-Magus 3 and then Aeonless Yuna)  - Hmm.. Another one I'm unsure of. My Aeon respect is a bit higher than Monkey's, so the first five are draining a lot of resources. Magic Burst isn't going to oneshot the Magus Sisters to me. They probably take out Shiho, which keeps Rosa busy. So they go into the fight against Yuna with no-MP Jess, low-MP Rosa, Lucian, and if they're lucky, Shiho. Assuming no Shiho, Rosa either has to waste her first turn reviving Shiho, or try for the Hold/Dispel-lock against Yuna. Considering that Yuna's evade and MP are going to outlast Lucian's damage and Rosa's MP (it's very low at this point), I don't think the team makes it. If Rosa uses the first turn to res Shiho, then Yuna can start the nasty stuff. Abstain for now.

Team Consonant | Celes, Alys, Lucian & Shiho, Ayla (Life)
[Floor 3b: Multiples]
[Espers: Siren, Kirin (Mastered) | Shoat, Carbuncle]
*All ST is MT
Team Consonant vs. FF1 White Wizard, Knight, Ninja and Red Wizard
Team Consonant vs. Yosuke and Tengaar
Team Consonant vs. Kanji, Ramza, Tidus (Caladbolg) and Crono
*Full Heal
Team Consonant vs. Yuna, Rand and Marle
Team Consonant vs. Jane, Yulie, FFT Chemist and Nina4 - See Magic.

Team Djinn | Cloud, Raquel, Aika. Tear, Aeris  (Violent Burst Law)
[Materia: Cover (Mastered), Revive (Mastered), Transform]
[Floor 3b: Multiples]
*All ST is MT
Team Djinn vs. FF1 White Wizard, Knight, Ninja and Red Wizard - Delta Shield to avoid magical pains, Cloud wastes his Limit here. Next.
Team Djinn vs. Yosuke and Tengaar - Delta Shield to avoid status-y magic, Transform shenanigans and Raquel physicals.
Team Djinn vs. Kanji, Ramza, Tidus (Caladbolg) and Crono - Delta Shield to avoid the magical ouch, Transform, Seal Evil, or Intrude takes care of the rest.
*Full Heal - Nephrite informs me that Full Heals restore Limit Meters for VBL teams!
Team Djinn vs. Yuna, Rand and Marle - Delta Shield against Yuna, Cloud Limit to take 'em all out. Even without the Limit, though, my MT offense should have no trouble taking out these losers in one round.
Team Djinn vs. Jane, Yulie, FFT Chemist and Nina4 - Oooh. Jane is a scary one. But the full brunt of this team wouldn't even kill Aeris. Team just blows all their remaining Limit Meters on them for fun. Intrudex4 FTW.

Team Gatewalker | Fogel, Aeonless Yuna, Eileen, Tia, Ditto (Quick Powder)(w/MT)
[Floor 1: An Introduction]
Team Gatewalker vs. Palmer and Mist Dragon
Team Gatewalker vs. Steelix, Shuckle and FF1 Knight
Team Gatewalker vs. Marle, Alice and FFT Priest
Team Gatewalker vs. Lich (FF1)
*Full Heal
Team Gatewalker vs. Change Relic - Fogel-y doom.

[SnowFire]

Djinn, re Team Monkey: Well, see Monkey's own notes, mostly.  FF4 Hold has some stupidly awesome accuracy rate.  Even taken with a grain of salt in that most endgame enemies will immune it, if Rosa is alive Yuna really, really doesn't want to let her ever get a turn.  She *must* open with Reflect as a result.  Rosa & Yuna then get to ping-pong Reflects and Dispels...  but Rosa has been Accelerated to whatever you think the TB speed cap is.  Even if you are extremely harsh here and only let Rosa be average speed rather than slow, Yuna is not getting doubles on Rosa anywhere near fast enough to do damage, if at all.  Anyone else alive should have no problems cleaning up.

The only possible kink in that plan is if Rosa is completely empty on MP, and don't really see why the earlier fights would be much of a drain.  Shiho has infinite resources and buffs continue from fight to fight, so Lucian is going to be either Oomphed or Might Reinforced at all times for super damage.  Even with high Aeon respect, it's hard to see them living past their first initiative turn when you consider Lucian has support....  Shiho Heals Mew, everyone else smashes the Aeon, next.  Rosa's MP should be fine; maybe it gets used a bit against the Magus Sisters since you see them as surviving Magic Burst, but they won't survive the backup for long.

Only real threat is an insanely lucky Magus Sisters where they get 2 initiative Ultimas destroying the field, and ... to that.

[Nephrite]

Rosa's Dispel doesn't remove Reflect. Just going to throw that out there.


vvvv: HA, BEAT YOU

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Keep in mind that Rosa's Dispel is amazing trash and gets reflected by Reflect in-game.

[Monkeyfinger]

Actually it shouldn't matter. Rosa ought to be faster than Yuna due to accelerate lasting a long time (8 turns or something.)

[SnowFire]

...huh.  OWNED BY REFLECT?  That is worthless.

And Monkeyfinger, Yuna gets an initiative turn after her last Aeon is defeated, so even if Rosa is super-speedy she'll still be able to open with Reflect.  So it is relevant if your team was only barely stumbling in...   but yeah, once Reflected Yuna isn't healing or buffing, and her Holy isn't a OHKO.  And Shiho should get at least one Heal off even if you see purple gems as being rare, and Rosa should have SOME gas left in the tank for healing.  Which means Yuna still isn't getting anywhere fast, but I guess she could win if fighting an MP-less team.  (Which isn't the case.)

[Monkeyfinger]

And Monkeyfinger, Yuna gets an initiative turn after her last Aeon is defeated

Is this a special rule for the dungeon, or are you just under the common misconception that she always does this?

Because no. She doesn't.

Yuna's speed and Anima's strength means it often doesn't come up in the DL, but when an Aeon dies a fast enemy (or teammate) can beat Yuna to her next turn.

It most likely doesn't matter here for reasons you stated but it's a good mistake to clear up for general voting purposes.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Monkey is right on that. Also, looking at it, Dispel sucking definitely doesn't matter: if she casts Reflect, she's essentially admitting defeat, as she's now bereft of any healing worth a damn. Casting buffs means she eats status/dispel (FF4 dispel doesn't fail that much) and the physical fighters are still pummeling the shit out of her. A good miss = dead Summoner.

[DjinnAndTonic]

I'm not sure I'd see FF4 Dispel as sucking so much as FF4 Reflect as being resistant to dispels.