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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2625 on: June 16, 2010, 11:15:54 PM »
Unlimited Saga: Just beat Dagul Bos.

Me: Oh, hey, I am almost done with the game! This gauntlet shouldn't be too hard!

*Minotaur fight later*

Ok, that was annoying, but the next fight is one enemy, 8 LP, shouldn't be TOO hard cause its one guy right?

*Fight later*

WHAT THE FUCK? I did like 5000 damage before you lost your first LP, and you took off half my LP due to retarded MT BUllshit?  UGH!  Well, at least you're dead, now about Basil...

*Fight with him*

...I've done over 10k damage to you, you have double the LP of that Dragon thing, the same MT damage bullshit, a move that knocks a character out instantly, requiring that Rescue Gimmick that's been 100% useless until now...and I haven't done a SINGLE Point of LP damage to you?  Seriously?  Ugh, how retarded are the enemies after him, provided I care to finish?

*FAQs*

So I fight the exact same fight again, only this time with a full dungeon BEFORE him, nad then a 69 LP fight afterwards?  Dagul Bos had 27 and that was pretty absurd, but at least he had a cute gimmick.  This...seriously, fuck off Unlimited Saga.

At this point, I've determined I can't really mathematically win; no, I'm not kidding.  I don't do anywhere near enough damage to do LP fast enough to these bastards, my LP drops absurdedly fast (I saw Basil take off 5 LP on 2 separate occassions in his MT attack) and...yeah, I basically can't win barring really absurd evasion hax.  Basil has only 16 LP, for the record, and I couldn't do *ANY* LP damage to him, so what shit am I suppose to do against a chain fight with Him *AND* 69 LP afterwords?

So I pretty much ending US here.  I know you're thinking "HA! Meeple gave up!" but when I can't realistically CONTINUE THE GAME due to mathematically impossible scenarios, I think I'm justified.

ON THAT NOTE...
Game sucks in every regard.  Creativity can go fuck itself, I don't give credits for trying if the idea is so stupid, you could see how retarded it is on paper.  This game has NOTHING, be it wasted potential, fun value, intriguing plot, what have you.  I'm seriously tempted to give it 0/10; the game is just THAT BAD.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2626 on: June 16, 2010, 11:34:13 PM »
It has very nice box art.

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« Reply #2627 on: June 16, 2010, 11:37:41 PM »
I warned you it was worse then Magna Carta ;_; , didn't I?

Only reason I beat so much as ONE path in Unlimited SaGa is because I played it while I was younger and had a much higher fail tolerance then I do even now.

And no, I could not even tell you how I did it at this point. The game is thankfully nothing more then a blur of spinning reels accompanied by a feeling of frustration and annoyance at this point in my memory.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2628 on: June 17, 2010, 12:27:25 AM »
I wonder if there's any truth in the rumour that Square had a limited time promotion where if you pre-ordered Unlimited SaGa they would send a guy to your place to personally kick you in the junk.

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« Reply #2629 on: June 17, 2010, 01:00:26 AM »
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For reference: Kieran gained two levels, Nephenee three and Marcia two.
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« Reply #2630 on: June 17, 2010, 02:57:49 AM »
FFXII- Started. Good start at least, then goes right into you cosplaying Aladdin, which I can live with. Penelo said everything I need to know about her character with that huff. The look on her face was almost as awkward as the entire laughing sequence. Stopped outside the gate to fight ROGUE TOMATO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2631 on: June 17, 2010, 02:58:35 AM »
Hey, I bought a new that I really can't afford due to buying tickets to DLC5!

Anyway, I bought Nier Replicant since I found it used for a mere $54. I figure if I'm going to buy Japanese games, I might as well buy ones that have no chance of being released in English. Since Nier Gestalht was already released in English, it means I can effectively buy the game twice, but at least I'll get two different protagonists along with the Japanese/English vocal track changes, yay!

Anyway, so Nier: Pansy Japanese Boy Version is pretty fun so far, and from the youtube videos I've watched, it really is practically identical to the Nier: UOM version, right down to how ugly the Pansy Japanese Protagonist is!

There are some dialogue changes I noticed, but I'd chalk that up to differences between the English translation and the Japanese track than anything that would have been different between the two Japanese scripts (apart from the obvious change of 'otousan' to 'oniichan' in every scene with Yona).

Also, Weiss's Japanese name is Shiro... At least the English version had the decency to use another language's word for 'White'... It sounds like the main character is calling the ancient evil Grimoire by a dog's name in the Japanese version. >.>;;

BTW, I haven't figured out what the hell 'Nier' is supposed to mean. Is that the main character's official name or something? The world's official name? (I guess could just be like Grandia's nonsensical title...)



...oh right, I'm playing it! The opening tutorial level was freakin' fun. Just mindless destruction and levelling up like crazy.

I'm wondering if this is much of an RPG at all, though... It plays more like Devil May Cry than other ARPGs like Tales/SO. I suppose it might be KH-like later on, but as of now, I'm playing solo and the only thing that seems RPG-like is the level up system.

Do I get party members eventually? I saw a whole bunch of colorful characters in the Japanese opening (the American opening looks a bit toned down in comparison). I'm hoping a few join my party and that I can switch between them at will (but more likely, it'll be all AI-controlled if I get any party members, sigh...).

Soundtrack is love, I may have to actually buy this one, I haven't found a track that wasn't good yet. Even the town themes are pretty engaging, and they're the worst of what I've heard so far.



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Storywise, game is still pretty strong. They introduced the idea that the antagonists might have altruistic goals after all, which is nice, but it feels a little hamhanded since all the protagonists are saying 'Well, their intentions seem good from what they say, but something's not right...' . It sort of blows any illusion that the antagonists are morally ambiguous in any way.

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« Reply #2632 on: June 17, 2010, 03:20:19 AM »
BTW, I haven't figured out what the hell 'Nier' is supposed to mean. Is that the main character's official name or something? The world's official name? (I guess could just be like Grandia's nonsensical title...)

I believe the main character has been called that on the site or something?  Dunno.  I wouldn't think too much into it.

I'm wondering if this is much of an RPG at all, though... It plays more like Devil May Cry than other ARPGs like Tales/SO. I suppose it might be KH-like later on, but as of now, I'm playing solo and the only thing that seems RPG-like is the level up system.

Do I get party members eventually? I saw a whole bunch of colorful characters in the Japanese opening (the American opening looks a bit toned down in comparison). I'm hoping a few join my party and that I can switch between them at will (but more likely, it'll be all AI-controlled if I get any party members, sigh...).

Uh... what exactly is your definition of RPG?  I don't see much difference between Nier and KH there.

Anyway, you do get party members but they're not controllable.

Soundtrack is love, I may have to actually buy this one, I haven't found a track that wasn't good yet. Even the town themes are pretty engaging, and they're the worst of what I've heard so far.

I would also actually like a copy of the soundtrack but importing shipping sucks.  Think you could grab me one and I'll pay you back at DLCon?

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« Reply #2633 on: June 17, 2010, 03:21:23 AM »
It has very nice box art.

Good music, too.
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« Reply #2634 on: June 17, 2010, 03:38:03 AM »
FE9 - Back to C14! Now, with 100% less egregious failure. I just got Astrid, who's currently L5 and gains XP VERY VERY FAST and gets LOTS AND LOTS OF SPEED. Jill isn't turning out as well as last time, but she's fine. Not to mention Marcia's turning out insane. Seriously, 15 Defense and Strength?
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« Reply #2635 on: June 17, 2010, 04:14:52 AM »
The 360 is set up and online....but the only games I have for it are the pack-ins (Banjo-Kazooie and Viva Pinata) until Amazon ships my copy of Bayonetta. So I played some of B-K. It's not very good. Contain your shock.

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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2636 on: June 17, 2010, 04:52:32 AM »
Uh... what exactly is your definition of RPG?  I don't see much difference between Nier and KH there.

Anyway, you do get party members but they're not controllable.

MOAR Menu-based combat! Actually, I'm not complaining. But I haven't gotten any party members yet, and that's basically the fastest way to separate 'Action Beat-em-up' from 'Action RPG' in my mind. Then there's stuff like Crisis Core, and who knows what to call that...

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Soundtrack is love, I may have to actually buy this one, I haven't found a track that wasn't good yet. Even the town themes are pretty engaging, and they're the worst of what I've heard so far.

I would also actually like a copy of the soundtrack but importing shipping sucks.  Think you could grab me one and I'll pay you back at DLCon?

No promises, I'll have to see how easy it is to find a copy. If I see a bunch, I'll definitely pick one up for you while I'm buying mine.


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« Reply #2637 on: June 17, 2010, 05:17:21 AM »
Unlimited Saga: Just beat Dagul Bos.

Me: Oh, hey, I am almost done with the game! This gauntlet shouldn't be too hard!

*Minotaur fight later*

Ok, that was annoying, but the next fight is one enemy, 8 LP, shouldn't be TOO hard cause its one guy right?

*Fight later*

WHAT THE FUCK? I did like 5000 damage before you lost your first LP, and you took off half my LP due to retarded MT BUllshit?  UGH!  Well, at least you're dead, now about Basil...

*Fight with him*

...I've done over 10k damage to you, you have double the LP of that Dragon thing, the same MT damage bullshit, a move that knocks a character out instantly, requiring that Rescue Gimmick that's been 100% useless until now...and I haven't done a SINGLE Point of LP damage to you?  Seriously?  Ugh, how retarded are the enemies after him, provided I care to finish?

*FAQs*

So I fight the exact same fight again, only this time with a full dungeon BEFORE him, nad then a 69 LP fight afterwards?  Dagul Bos had 27 and that was pretty absurd, but at least he had a cute gimmick.  This...seriously, fuck off Unlimited Saga.

At this point, I've determined I can't really mathematically win; no, I'm not kidding.  I don't do anywhere near enough damage to do LP fast enough to these bastards, my LP drops absurdedly fast (I saw Basil take off 5 LP on 2 separate occassions in his MT attack) and...yeah, I basically can't win barring really absurd evasion hax.  Basil has only 16 LP, for the record, and I couldn't do *ANY* LP damage to him, so what shit am I suppose to do against a chain fight with Him *AND* 69 LP afterwords?

So I pretty much ending US here.  I know you're thinking "HA! Meeple gave up!" but when I can't realistically CONTINUE THE GAME due to mathematically impossible scenarios, I think I'm justified.

ON THAT NOTE...
Game sucks in every regard.  Creativity can go fuck itself, I don't give credits for trying if the idea is so stupid, you could see how retarded it is on paper.  This game has NOTHING, be it wasted potential, fun value, intriguing plot, what have you.  I'm seriously tempted to give it 0/10; the game is just THAT BAD.

Fool, this is what you get for not telling me who you play as. Laura is NOT a starter's chapter thanks to Gelios infamous SHADOW BREATH!!! You are not surviving him unless you tweak a full set of status protection equips.
You could have get around this. Like say, lose to Dagul Bos, which makes you only need to fight Gelios once.
Also, the final boss also gets the trade mark move of the second to last boss, which means if you didn't lose to Dagul Bos, not only you have to fight Gelios twice, you have to fight the last boss who can use Shadow Breath through the entire fight.

Also, you lose LP so fast probably due to the lack of LP protection gear. Those equips with LP Protection slots is what actually increase your LP defense. You need at least three of those on each character by end game (which is not too hard to get), and even easier if the Eng version kept the equipment bug.

Also, HP damage does not equates to LP damage. Tech's LP offensive power is different from its HP offnesive power. And enemies all have regen property, so in boss fighting, stocking hp damage hoping to squeeze LP out is NOT efficient due to how quick they regen hps. Attacks that does multiple hits or has multiple elements are most efficient in this case.
Here are some good boss slaying techs that are easy to learn: Acute Puncture, Bloody Mary, High Speed Nebula.
Also, sword techs are WORST for boss slaying due to not a single sword tech has a LP offense over 5. You need like 7 to do reliable LP damage from first round.

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« Reply #2638 on: June 17, 2010, 05:25:16 AM »
Man U. Saga just sounds beyond epic.

Mega Man Zero Collection - Yeah I'm replaying these games. Beat Zero 1, 2, and 3 so far.

1.. my fears were realized, the game does not age well and suffers from being too experimental. But nostalgia carried me through it handily enough.

2 aged a little worse than I thought, but it's still a pretty fun game. A lot better than 1 at any rate.

3 was harder than I remembered[cept for endgame where Ultima Foot = LOL final stage], and held up about as I expected. Very fun game.

Playing Zero 4 now, game is... harder than I remembered as well. We'll see how this goes.


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« Reply #2639 on: June 17, 2010, 07:11:51 AM »
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WA:ACF: Demon Prophet for Godlike. Chooses the weakest attack each round to get hit by out of three? Either that or he randomly chooses one of three people in the fight to get hit by each round. That plus fast MT 3HKO damage of any ACF element plus 3HKO counters to physicals... 66% chance to immune damage plus fast plus ...probably PCHP+ durability otherwise + pretty fast damage + if you allow it, Fate Storm to single targets (I'd limit it to when enemy has >33% mHP but that's me) = pain in the damn ass.

Pretty late, but Demon Prophet's gimmick is that he chooses one of the three in each round, and only that person's attacks can go through. DL wise, you can either choose to throw it all together or limit it to 33% chance of him getting struck yeah.

As for games, I've been on a Dissidia grind more or less. I blame Meeple for this because I shelved the game for more than 8 months, but his recent talking about it has made me play it for over a week straight. CURSE YOU MEEPLE!!!
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« Reply #2640 on: June 17, 2010, 09:10:18 AM »
PW2- And that, as they say, is that.

Probably the #2 game for gameplay after Edgeworth, in that nothing had me FAQing until about midway through 2-3.  Otherwise not a lot going on with it, 2-4 just makes no goddamned sense at times and I'm glad I was flatly FAQing it for time.  Franziska is entertaining, but really it's all about waiting for Edgey to come back.  Poor Gumshoe.
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« Reply #2641 on: June 17, 2010, 02:58:22 PM »
I must play this Unlimited Saga at some point :P.

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« Reply #2642 on: June 17, 2010, 03:01:49 PM »
Unlimited Saga: Just beat Dagul Bos.

Me: Oh, hey, I am almost done with the game! This gauntlet shouldn't be too hard!

*Minotaur fight later*

Ok, that was annoying, but the next fight is one enemy, 8 LP, shouldn't be TOO hard cause its one guy right?

*Fight later*

WHAT THE FUCK? I did like 5000 damage before you lost your first LP, and you took off half my LP due to retarded MT BUllshit?  UGH!  Well, at least you're dead, now about Basil...

*Fight with him*

...I've done over 10k damage to you, you have double the LP of that Dragon thing, the same MT damage bullshit, a move that knocks a character out instantly, requiring that Rescue Gimmick that's been 100% useless until now...and I haven't done a SINGLE Point of LP damage to you?  Seriously?  Ugh, how retarded are the enemies after him, provided I care to finish?

*FAQs*

So I fight the exact same fight again, only this time with a full dungeon BEFORE him, nad then a 69 LP fight afterwards?  Dagul Bos had 27 and that was pretty absurd, but at least he had a cute gimmick.  This...seriously, fuck off Unlimited Saga.

At this point, I've determined I can't really mathematically win; no, I'm not kidding.  I don't do anywhere near enough damage to do LP fast enough to these bastards, my LP drops absurdedly fast (I saw Basil take off 5 LP on 2 separate occassions in his MT attack) and...yeah, I basically can't win barring really absurd evasion hax.  Basil has only 16 LP, for the record, and I couldn't do *ANY* LP damage to him, so what shit am I suppose to do against a chain fight with Him *AND* 69 LP afterwords?

So I pretty much ending US here.  I know you're thinking "HA! Meeple gave up!" but when I can't realistically CONTINUE THE GAME due to mathematically impossible scenarios, I think I'm justified.

ON THAT NOTE...
Game sucks in every regard.  Creativity can go fuck itself, I don't give credits for trying if the idea is so stupid, you could see how retarded it is on paper.  This game has NOTHING, be it wasted potential, fun value, intriguing plot, what have you.  I'm seriously tempted to give it 0/10; the game is just THAT BAD.

Fool, this is what you get for not telling me who you play as. Laura is NOT a starter's chapter thanks to Gelios infamous SHADOW BREATH!!! You are not surviving him unless you tweak a full set of status protection equips.
You could have get around this. Like say, lose to Dagul Bos, which makes you only need to fight Gelios once.
Also, the final boss also gets the trade mark move of the second to last boss, which means if you didn't lose to Dagul Bos, not only you have to fight Gelios twice, you have to fight the last boss who can use Shadow Breath through the entire fight.

Also, you lose LP so fast probably due to the lack of LP protection gear. Those equips with LP Protection slots is what actually increase your LP defense. You need at least three of those on each character by end game (which is not too hard to get), and even easier if the Eng version kept the equipment bug.

Also, HP damage does not equates to LP damage. Tech's LP offensive power is different from its HP offnesive power. And enemies all have regen property, so in boss fighting, stocking hp damage hoping to squeeze LP out is NOT efficient due to how quick they regen hps. Attacks that does multiple hits or has multiple elements are most efficient in this case.
Here are some good boss slaying techs that are easy to learn: Acute Puncture, Bloody Mary, High Speed Nebula.
Also, sword techs are WORST for boss slaying due to not a single sword tech has a LP offense over 5. You need like 7 to do reliable LP damage from first round.

And this si exactly why I did *NOT* tell you who I was playing as Niu.  I knew you'd go into this big massive rant about "OMG WHY DID YOU DO THIS!!?" and completely assume I'd have skills and what not.  I play games however the fuck I want, and if I made a bad decision, so be it.  I've made it clear that I hate people offering suggestions about gaming without me asking.  You're one of the worst offenders in this regard; I so much as mention where I am in a game you're interested in my progress of, you ALWAYS go out of your way to say "MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THIS!!!"  No, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT unless I ask for it.

Edit: And my opinion of the game has little to do with the endgame arc, and for the record, I had a lot of LP Protection Gear on; again, you make baseless assumptions without actually knowing what's going on, cause you assume way to much on theory rather than genuine performance (granted, I'm not much better, but at least I will say "If you have this" rather than "USE THIS!")
Halfway into Laura's chapter, my general thought was "This game is shit, I'm only completing it out of stubborness"; the end game fucktardness is just why I'm NOT finishing the game.  It was going for that 0/10 as is, cause the game just really sucks at everything.  Its completely unfun, has no real interesting worth anywhere (given the game's style of plot, I can safely say that the other other plots are ass.  No, interesting storyline means shit when presentation is worse than your average SNES RPG, which US definitely has), 0 potential, frustrating stupid at times...I could go on.  The game sucks in every regard I can think of, and "looks pretty" is not enough for me (which...honestly, the game did not; I know, someone said "The Box Art is pretty" which is totally different.)  The game could have had the best OST ever, and I'd still give it a 1/10 at best.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2643 on: June 17, 2010, 03:30:23 PM »
Box art is a surprisingly strong indicator of the quality of a game.

Good box art = bad game.



Bad box art = good game.


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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2644 on: June 17, 2010, 03:42:14 PM »
I refuse to stand by that-...

*looks at the Japanese version of FF6's box art and how many people despise Amano's work, own opinions with-held*

...you know, you may be onto something there!
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2645 on: June 17, 2010, 05:42:23 PM »
Unlimited Saga: Just beat Dagul Bos.

Me: Oh, hey, I am almost done with the game! This gauntlet shouldn't be too hard!

*Minotaur fight later*

Ok, that was annoying, but the next fight is one enemy, 8 LP, shouldn't be TOO hard cause its one guy right?

*Fight later*

WHAT THE FUCK? I did like 5000 damage before you lost your first LP, and you took off half my LP due to retarded MT BUllshit?  UGH!  Well, at least you're dead, now about Basil...

*Fight with him*

...I've done over 10k damage to you, you have double the LP of that Dragon thing, the same MT damage bullshit, a move that knocks a character out instantly, requiring that Rescue Gimmick that's been 100% useless until now...and I haven't done a SINGLE Point of LP damage to you?  Seriously?  Ugh, how retarded are the enemies after him, provided I care to finish?

*FAQs*

So I fight the exact same fight again, only this time with a full dungeon BEFORE him, nad then a 69 LP fight afterwards?  Dagul Bos had 27 and that was pretty absurd, but at least he had a cute gimmick.  This...seriously, fuck off Unlimited Saga.

At this point, I've determined I can't really mathematically win; no, I'm not kidding.  I don't do anywhere near enough damage to do LP fast enough to these bastards, my LP drops absurdedly fast (I saw Basil take off 5 LP on 2 separate occassions in his MT attack) and...yeah, I basically can't win barring really absurd evasion hax.  Basil has only 16 LP, for the record, and I couldn't do *ANY* LP damage to him, so what shit am I suppose to do against a chain fight with Him *AND* 69 LP afterwords?

So I pretty much ending US here.  I know you're thinking "HA! Meeple gave up!" but when I can't realistically CONTINUE THE GAME due to mathematically impossible scenarios, I think I'm justified.

ON THAT NOTE...
Game sucks in every regard.  Creativity can go fuck itself, I don't give credits for trying if the idea is so stupid, you could see how retarded it is on paper.  This game has NOTHING, be it wasted potential, fun value, intriguing plot, what have you.  I'm seriously tempted to give it 0/10; the game is just THAT BAD.

Fool, this is what you get for not telling me who you play as. Laura is NOT a starter's chapter thanks to Gelios infamous SHADOW BREATH!!! You are not surviving him unless you tweak a full set of status protection equips.
You could have get around this. Like say, lose to Dagul Bos, which makes you only need to fight Gelios once.
Also, the final boss also gets the trade mark move of the second to last boss, which means if you didn't lose to Dagul Bos, not only you have to fight Gelios twice, you have to fight the last boss who can use Shadow Breath through the entire fight.

Also, you lose LP so fast probably due to the lack of LP protection gear. Those equips with LP Protection slots is what actually increase your LP defense. You need at least three of those on each character by end game (which is not too hard to get), and even easier if the Eng version kept the equipment bug.

Also, HP damage does not equates to LP damage. Tech's LP offensive power is different from its HP offnesive power. And enemies all have regen property, so in boss fighting, stocking hp damage hoping to squeeze LP out is NOT efficient due to how quick they regen hps. Attacks that does multiple hits or has multiple elements are most efficient in this case.
Here are some good boss slaying techs that are easy to learn: Acute Puncture, Bloody Mary, High Speed Nebula.
Also, sword techs are WORST for boss slaying due to not a single sword tech has a LP offense over 5. You need like 7 to do reliable LP damage from first round.

And this si exactly why I did *NOT* tell you who I was playing as Niu.  I knew you'd go into this big massive rant about "OMG WHY DID YOU DO THIS!!?" and completely assume I'd have skills and what not.  I play games however the fuck I want, and if I made a bad decision, so be it.  I've made it clear that I hate people offering suggestions about gaming without me asking.  You're one of the worst offenders in this regard; I so much as mention where I am in a game you're interested in my progress of, you ALWAYS go out of your way to say "MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THIS!!!"  No, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT unless I ask for it.

Edit: And my opinion of the game has little to do with the endgame arc, and for the record, I had a lot of LP Protection Gear on; again, you make baseless assumptions without actually knowing what's going on, cause you assume way to much on theory rather than genuine performance (granted, I'm not much better, but at least I will say "If you have this" rather than "USE THIS!")
Halfway into Laura's chapter, my general thought was "This game is shit, I'm only completing it out of stubborness"; the end game fucktardness is just why I'm NOT finishing the game.  It was going for that 0/10 as is, cause the game just really sucks at everything.  Its completely unfun, has no real interesting worth anywhere (given the game's style of plot, I can safely say that the other other plots are ass.  No, interesting storyline means shit when presentation is worse than your average SNES RPG, which US definitely has), 0 potential, frustrating stupid at times...I could go on.  The game sucks in every regard I can think of, and "looks pretty" is not enough for me (which...honestly, the game did not; I know, someone said "The Box Art is pretty" which is totally different.)  The game could have had the best OST ever, and I'd still give it a 1/10 at best.

While I am perfectly fine with people expressing opinions, I am firing this off as a pre-emptive strike:

No more response on this regard.  This concept seems to get people fired up, and I'd prefer not to have people firing at each other here.  Discuss games, don't argue with each other.  Do that in Discussion. 
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« Reply #2646 on: June 17, 2010, 06:44:53 PM »
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« Reply #2647 on: June 17, 2010, 07:56:07 PM »
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No more response on this regard.  This concept seems to get people fired up, and I'd prefer not to have people firing at each other here.  Discuss games, don't argue with each other.  Do that in Discussion.

I will admit I came off harshly, but it just got me riled up and I felt like I needed to get something off my chest.  I do apologize if I came off too harshly and insulted anyone, etc.  It was uncalled for, and I probably shouldn't have said it.

My general point, put in nicer terms, was "I hate it when people give help and I don't ask for it" and that I've been vocal about this in the past.  I generally avoid giving away info regarding some factors for this reason, and that's why I specifically did NOT mention what I was up to exactly in USaga, until I decided to quit the game.  Niu's response was exactly what I didn't want to hear, basically. 

No, I didn't have to read it, which makes my response look all the more dickish, but it was the exact kind of response I didn't want to see nonetheless.

(Not trying to start anything OK, just felt like I should make a more peaceful follow up.  Please don't take this the wrong way; its not directed at you.)
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2648 on: June 18, 2010, 12:09:09 AM »
Conversely, I find all the suggestions and mechanics discussions that inevitably crop up when a game is mentioned to be the highlight of this topic.

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« Reply #2649 on: June 18, 2010, 12:10:29 AM »
So I pretty much ending US here.  I know you're thinking "HA! Meeple gave up!" but when I can't realistically CONTINUE THE GAME due to mathematically impossible scenarios, I think I'm justified.

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