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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2950 on: July 09, 2010, 01:57:17 AM »
Haven't had a chance to play much in the past few days - little bro borrowing CoD: MW2 and both my handhelds were charging. That doesn't mean I haven't been doing things that are game-related, though. Much like Shale before me, I manned up and finally got around to getting a console. In my case, it's the Wii. Does anyone have any suggestions on games I should get (both Wii and WiiWare)? Obviously, you can check my Backloggery to see what I already have.

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« Reply #2951 on: July 09, 2010, 03:18:59 AM »
If you like Treasure shooters, Sin and Punishment Star Successor came out just recently and is pretty good.


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« Reply #2952 on: July 09, 2010, 04:10:49 AM »
Tatsunoko vs Capcom is an easy-to-learn fighter.  Hardcore fighting game players scoff at it, but it's plenty of fun for casual fighting fans.

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« Reply #2953 on: July 09, 2010, 06:38:22 AM »
Dragon Age- On to Awakening. I'm not sure which main story branch to tackle first. I don't have a tank, though... haven't needed one so far, but should I head after the one Warrior recruit first?

The other 2 branches give you companions that are pretty weak, so go for it

I will admit, I thought of having Ovhren go tank. I really did.

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« Reply #2954 on: July 09, 2010, 06:43:26 AM »
DMC3 - Vergil 2 beaten! omg plot twists. Arkham is a bastard, I like him. Also apparently even normal humans can survive being stabbed through the chest in this world, Dante doesn't seem so special any more.

Second third of the game was generally quite a good deal more fun than the first third.


XF - Started this up again. In the sequel to my Grandia 3 playthrough, I'll be taking an already challenging game and using half as many PCs as one should! Nothing can possibly go wrong.

Rules are:
1. I can only deploy a max of 3 PCs to each battle, unless more are forced.
2. No random encounters
3. No searching

Simple enough. I've already beaten everything up to and including the prison map, i.e. the challenge begins now. Prison was dead easy this time, funny what knowing the game does. Currently trying to decide who I'll mainly use and how I'll build them. Only thing I'm certain of is I'll be using Clarissa.

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« Reply #2955 on: July 09, 2010, 08:11:28 AM »
FF4- Doing the optional dungeons in the Underworld. Right now I'm trying to decide between putting Edge in the back because he is a worthless incompetent nincompoop who can't keep himself alive or to keep Cecil in the back, who tanks the entire world worth of physical hits in the back. Right now I'm doing the latter and just allowing Edge to die since he's pretty damn bad. 2HKOed by a lot of physical enemies and does the worst damage in the party besides the healbot. Sign me up for the Edge fanclub! At least he's better than Yang, who is shit.

I wasn't quite high enough levelled to have Wall and Float and that was unfortunate. OH MY GOD I GOT AMBUSHED DID SHE REALLY USE 4 GAIARAGES IN A ROW?!?! Float makes those enemies trivial, but god they aren't without it. About to fight Leviathan now.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2956 on: July 09, 2010, 08:46:39 AM »
XF - Started this up again. In the sequel to my Grandia 3 playthrough, I'll be taking an already challenging game and using half as many PCs as one should! Nothing can possibly go wrong.

Rules are:
1. I can only deploy a max of 3 PCs to each battle, unless more are forced.
2. No random encounters
3. No searching

Simple enough. I've already beaten everything up to and including the prison map, i.e. the challenge begins now. Prison was dead easy this time, funny what knowing the game does. Currently trying to decide who I'll mainly use and how I'll build them. Only thing I'm certain of is I'll be using Clarissa.

Amend challenge to "Only 3 PCs, and you must always use Tony as your fourth. Unless you're forced to use max number of PCs, then Tony must replace one of your regulars." This is the all-Tony, all-the-time Challenge.

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« Reply #2957 on: July 09, 2010, 01:14:38 PM »
He said "challenge," not "easy mode."
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« Reply #2958 on: July 09, 2010, 03:27:21 PM »
My sister and I have been working together these past few weeks and we were finally able to beat Round 2 of Pokemon Stadium. The game remained untouched for years until my sister decided to get the surfing Pikachu and beat the Prime cup and as a result all we had left was Master Ball Poke Cup, Petit Cup and Pika Cup. Poke Cup was fairly easy. I had an old team which smashed Blue version from about a year ago and I was able to beat Master Ball on a lucky run with it. Pika Cup and Little Cup required a little more effort and to beat them we had to play through the game twice to make teams for them.

We decided that to use a level 20 Kadabra for Pika Cup supported by an Arcanine with Dragon Rage and a Starmie with Thunderbolt, Surf, and Ice Beam. We used rentals for the other slots and the rental Exeggutor came in handy for a couple of the battles. On the winning run Kadabra was a complete beast and pretty much always got a critical hit when we needed him to. We also discovered that the key to winning the last match was that if the opponent had Alakazam as one of his three, keep Kadabra away from it to avoid Thunderwave. Arcanine was the weakest of the three we raised because his speed wasn't that good so most pokemon would got first and 2HKO him, but he did help out a lot when we needed to kill the Alakazam.

Making a team for the Petit cup was more difficult. Your options are severely limited and a lot of the really good pokemon are cut out due to the restrictions. You can't rely on a single pokemon like a Starmie or Mewtwo to sweep because of the rules of the little cup cut out most of the sweepers. Abra is probably the best choice, but even then his special falls short of the OHKO power Alakazam has. We ended up using a more balanced team of Horsea, Ghastly, Magnemite, Machop, Bulbasaur, and Abra. The levels were split so that all of the pokemon had 26 except for Gastly and Bulbasaur who were level 27 (Ghastly learns Hypnosis and Bulbasaur learns Razor Leaf at level 27). If I were going to do it again I probably would have given the extra level to Abra, Bulbasaur almost never got used. Ghastly, Abra, and Machop were the ones who got used the most, although Horsea and Magnemite both had their moments. There were a suprising number of opponents who only had normal type attacks so Ghastly was especially useful there although Abra was probably the MVP for his sweeping ability.

It was also in this run that we learned that the rental pokemon aren't that bad statwise. The rental Bulbasaur beat my Bulbasaur in every stat except speed despite being two levels lower. The rental pokemon generally had better stats than mine until I gave them stat boosting items and even then they only had a small lead over the rentals. If the rentals actually had good movesets there would really be no reason to train up your own. This does make me wonder though, if the rental pokemon had such good stats, how did the opponents manage to get stats that were much better than the rentals?

The playthroughs to make the team were probably the best part especially the run through for the Petit cup. We decided to use a lot of pokemon we hadn't used before so our final team was Poliwrath, Gyarados, Dodrio, Flareon, Hitmonlee, and Electabuzz. Physical STAB was really good ingame in the 1st generation. I was always suprised by how much each hit of Hitmonlee's double kicks would do. Hitmonlee is also much better than Hitmonchan since Hitmonlee actually gets good attacks and has the stats to use them. Dodrio was also extremely effective. Gyarados was overpowered pretty much throughout although at the end the others started to catch up with him. Electabuzz was also a lot of fun. His attacks weren't overpowering but they were usually enough to get the job done and he was the fastest in a team of fast pokemon. Flareon also surpised me because his special stat was really good. It was the best in the team and was never that far behind his attack. He was awesome early one because you get a Double Edge TM right after getting Eevee so you could use his attack. He lagged until he got Flamethrower, but once he did he was really effective against most of the E4. Poliwrath was the disappointment since Gyarados mostly did his job except better. However, Lance's pokemon didn't seem to like attacking him so he had use there and water is an awesome type so it never hurts to have two of them.

The original pokemon games still hold up really well and are a lot of fun to play. The pacing is excellent and once you get past Celadon you have a lot of freedom to do things in the order you choose. Silph Tower also stands out as the best dungeon in all of the games for me. The AI is bad, but that just gives you more freedom in your pokemon choices. Overall, it just shows how solid the concept of Pokemon was that the original game is as fun as when I first played it.

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« Reply #2959 on: July 09, 2010, 03:29:54 PM »
Ninja Gaiden Black: Game is still hard, and also very rewarding to play. Well, except for level 9, where it decided that screw melee combat, what the people really want is finicky platforming areas and first-person shooting. Bad Team Ninja! No ninja-cookie!

In level 10 now, working on the double electric snake battle. Stupid sweep attack hitting me when I'm clearly jumping over it...
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« Reply #2960 on: July 09, 2010, 04:52:12 PM »
FF4- Doing the optional dungeons in the Underworld. Right now I'm trying to decide between putting Edge in the back because he is a worthless incompetent nincompoop who can't keep himself alive or to keep Cecil in the back, who tanks the entire world worth of physical hits in the back. Right now I'm doing the latter and just allowing Edge to die since he's pretty damn bad. 2HKOed by a lot of physical enemies and does the worst damage in the party besides the healbot. Sign me up for the Edge fanclub! At least he's better than Yang, who is shit.

I wasn't quite high enough levelled to have Wall and Float and that was unfortunate. OH MY GOD I GOT AMBUSHED DID SHE REALLY USE 4 GAIARAGES IN A ROW?!?! Float makes those enemies trivial, but god they aren't without it. About to fight Leviathan now.

Only real way to make Edge useful is to take advantage of his array of gimmick weapons.  Species Weakness Weapons and the Elemental Claws tend to mesh well with him, as does the status claws.  Otherwise, yeah, at best he's basically just there to help soften up enemies for Rydia's inevitable nuking with his own magic.

But otherwise, yeah, Edge kind of sucks for a good part of the game.  Outside of FF1's Ninja (whose more just "DAMN YOU THIEF FOR SUCKING ASS!"), Edge is probably the worst Ninja in the series?  Maybe I'm forgetting a lackluster one, but even if we take a loose definition for someone like Armarant, I'm pretty sure he has Edge beat since Armarant was similar to Edge in picking up later in the game more so than earlier, but before then is more "Non-stellar" rather than "lackluster."
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« Reply #2961 on: July 09, 2010, 05:38:48 PM »
your dedication to fairness is surprising dude.  I always felt Colosseum deserved nothing less than Mewtwo rapage >.>
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« Reply #2962 on: July 09, 2010, 06:06:19 PM »
Amarant is clearly a martial artist to me.
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« Reply #2963 on: July 09, 2010, 06:26:09 PM »
Well, that's fair; I'm mostly just saying that even if you say Armarant = Ninja, he still probably deserves more respect than FF4o Edge.
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« Reply #2964 on: July 09, 2010, 06:29:04 PM »
Not to mention, FF1 ninja isn't that bad.  He's just not the healbot, and is competing against the absurdity that is FF1 Knight.  He puts up a pretty good fight with the Red Mage, and blows the other two out of the water.

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« Reply #2965 on: July 09, 2010, 09:42:01 PM »
your dedication to fairness is surprising dude.  I always felt Colosseum deserved nothing less than Mewtwo rapage >.>
Most of Stadium does deserve a Mewtwo rampage for being a cheating bastard of a game, but unfortunately that's not an option for all of the cups. Starmie and Alakazam can be adequate replacements for Mewtwo in Pika and Poke cup, but unfortunately there are no good "break the game" options for Petit.

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« Reply #2966 on: July 09, 2010, 09:56:11 PM »
Not to mention, FF1 ninja isn't that bad.  He's just not the healbot, and is competing against the absurdity that is FF1 Knight.  He puts up a pretty good fight with the Red Mage, and blows the other two out of the water.

Yeah, FF1 Ninja in and of itself isn't bad.  Just when talking about the FF1 Ninja, you have to bring up Thief, since you can't have one without the other.

Its the same case as hyping an FE Character who becomes strong after Promotion, but ignoring the fact that they spend half the game un-promoted; yeah, they end up good, but you still gotta deal with a failure for half the game, and that still should be held against them.
Hawk's Light Side Classes in Seiken Densetsu 3 are another example of this, given Ninja >>>> Ranger; the Tier 3 classes are much closer in worth, but the two Tier 2's, its just ridiculously one sided (Stat Downs, Higher Strength and Shurikens vs. TRAPS!!!, Sleep Powder and Change Form, GEE I WONDER WHAT WINS!  Oh, but Ranger has an FST!!! Pity those are overrated ESPECIALLY on Hawk whose got a ludicrously awesome Level 1 Tech)
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« Reply #2967 on: July 09, 2010, 11:02:17 PM »
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« Reply #2968 on: July 09, 2010, 11:45:57 PM »
XF - Started this up again. In the sequel to my Grandia 3 playthrough, I'll be taking an already challenging game and using half as many PCs as one should! Nothing can possibly go wrong.

Rules are:
1. I can only deploy a max of 3 PCs to each battle, unless more are forced.
2. No random encounters
3. No searching

Sounds like this would make some of the puzzle maps basically undoable, or at least undoable without some kind of massive AI cheese.  Notably I'm thinking of some of the "stand on switches" missions - the one in Chapter 4 I believe would be flat impossible without some spare bodies before Labby can solo it, and the early Chapter 2 mission (2-2?) where you have to have two Sentinels stand on switches strikes me as being pretty brutal as well (though that one could MAYBE be done with cheapo "put equip switch on everyone, enter the battle nearly naked, run the top team out of FP, spam Gadgeteer Fatigue healing on your own team, equip change to Sentinel armor, have solo guy slaughter a bunch of 1 HP wimps...."  but then again those enemies might have had wait-FP up, now that I think about it.).

Anyway, curious to hear how this goes.  Gooood luck with the last missions of Chapter 1 + first half of Chapter 2.

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« Reply #2969 on: July 09, 2010, 11:57:19 PM »
For 2-2, use more Elementalist OC on your Sentinels.

Yeah, there's a puzzle map in C4 that requires more than 3 people, obviously I will use more for that.

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« Reply #2970 on: July 10, 2010, 12:06:06 AM »
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« Reply #2971 on: July 10, 2010, 12:47:36 AM »
How is that Alma SCC going?

And where are my Persona Maps OK?

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« Reply #2972 on: July 10, 2010, 12:52:17 AM »
Monkey Island (Special Edition):

Me: This is a pretty standard point-and-click adventure style game. It's kind of fun but I don't see what all the hype is abou....
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Me: Best point&click ever.

So yeah, I can see why Shale&Co. worship this game. It's a fucking riot. Also I like ocasionally hitting F10 for the art-style dissonance between the original and the remastered special edition. Very cool little feature.

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« Reply #2973 on: July 10, 2010, 01:18:21 AM »
FF4- Doing the optional dungeons in the Underworld. Right now I'm trying to decide between putting Edge in the back because he is a worthless incompetent nincompoop who can't keep himself alive or to keep Cecil in the back, who tanks the entire world worth of physical hits in the back. Right now I'm doing the latter and just allowing Edge to die since he's pretty damn bad. 2HKOed by a lot of physical enemies and does the worst damage in the party besides the healbot. Sign me up for the Edge fanclub! At least he's better than Yang, who is shit.

I wasn't quite high enough levelled to have Wall and Float and that was unfortunate. OH MY GOD I GOT AMBUSHED DID SHE REALLY USE 4 GAIARAGES IN A ROW?!?! Float makes those enemies trivial, but god they aren't without it. About to fight Leviathan now.

Only real way to make Edge useful is to take advantage of his array of gimmick weapons.  Species Weakness Weapons and the Elemental Claws tend to mesh well with him, as does the status claws.  Otherwise, yeah, at best he's basically just there to help soften up enemies for Rydia's inevitable nuking with his own magic.

But otherwise, yeah, Edge kind of sucks for a good part of the game.  Outside of FF1's Ninja (whose more just "DAMN YOU THIEF FOR SUCKING ASS!"), Edge is probably the worst Ninja in the series?  Maybe I'm forgetting a lackluster one, but even if we take a loose definition for someone like Armarant, I'm pretty sure he has Edge beat since Armarant was similar to Edge in picking up later in the game more so than earlier, but before then is more "Non-stellar" rather than "lackluster."

Yuffie.

Anyway, he's gotten progressively better in each remake I've played, I will say, though part of that is owed to FFIVa's weird bugged ATB making him use Inertia Canceller +2 from WA4 all the time when you caste haste on him. And hey, he's actually really good in TAY (infinite itemcast blink, haste and protect will do that).

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« Reply #2974 on: July 10, 2010, 01:52:36 AM »
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Yuffie.

Yuffie has one of the best double growth weapons, is one of the only PCs with Back Row compatible weapons (let alone all of them are, something shared only with Vincent), and has a healing Limit.  Factor all this in with FF7's Materia system giving a Floor to how bad someone can be, and Yuffie very easily outperforms Edge.

And that's not even factoring in the Conformer, which is probably the single best Ultimate in FF7 due to how it ignores like EVERY damage penalty and its Power Up effect only sucks against things its OHKOing anyway.

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Anyway, he's gotten progressively better in each remake I've played, I will say, though part of that is owed to FFIVa's weird bugged ATB making him use Inertia Canceller +2 from WA4 all the time when you caste haste on him. And hey, he's actually really good in TAY (infinite itemcast blink, haste and protect will do that).

Edge makes the least use of FF4a's bugged ATB actually; generally speaking, it tends to kick in on slower characters more than faster characters.  I remember it definitely working more on Rydia and Palom than Edge.  Regardless, looking at the Algorithm FAQ, speed apparently has zilch to do with the Auto ATB Gaining Factor, and gaining MORE turns is actually WORSE for it, since it means more opportunities for that screwed up bug to be used against you, and have the enemy steal the turn. 

Can't speak for FF4TAY though.  But FF4a Edge is debatable LVP (alongside Kain) for the final dungeon, and doesn't really get worth anything in the Lunar Ruins until you can start handing him Hero Shields or something (Durability isn't very good, Throw's still expensive as fuck and not worth the damage it does, enemies just kind of shrug off status, which Yang can do anyway AND Yang crushes Edge on durability, while being similar in speed.  Honestly, Edge's big niche would be dual wielding Hero Shields, but you don't realistically get that.)
Honestly, there's little defending FF4o/a Edge; he has some twink potential in the Lunar Ruins and that's about it.
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