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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2325 on: May 28, 2010, 06:29:33 PM »
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« Reply #2326 on: May 28, 2010, 06:35:44 PM »
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2327 on: May 28, 2010, 06:52:21 PM »
re: FE10

Well, first, since I doubt Djinn will want to replay the game.

http://www.serenesforest.net/fe10/script/ending.html  -> covers the text for some of the hidden NG+ scenes as well as the alternate endings for various characters.  Some of these are pretty subtle, as you'll see.

http://www.serenesforest.net/fe10/script/boss3.html -> you'll want to skip down to the bits with Ashera and Sephiran.  In between other stuff you get some backstory.

Otherwise... well.  the game never really gets into this, at least in any straightforward way, but as Niu explains it, basically... Laguz are, obviously, partly magical in their nature.  Their strength, ability to change form, long lives and so on represent a reserve of magical strength they possess.  When they have children with Beorc, a great deal of this strength is lost to them, and passed on to their children.  Thus, any laguz having children with Beorc suddenly lose all their powers, more or less.
Spoilery bits follow.  Sephiran, then known as Lehran the hero and consort to Altina the Empress, naturally suffered the same fate when his first child was born.  This was not widely known.  What was widely known was that this was happening throughout the land, since his relationship with Altina had weakened old taboos.  Faced with a mounting crisis, he decided to claim that this was punishment from the Goddess.  This in turn kicked off the unending discrimination against branded from both sides, as well as rebuilding the barriers between beorc and laguz.  The argument can be made that this decision, made in despair at the loss of his own powers was the root cause of a lot of the fighting we see in the series.  It stopped the healing of prejudice between the races and cut new wounds.  Which is the source of Niu's comments that Sephiran deserves to die and all that.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2328 on: May 28, 2010, 07:15:21 PM »
SPOILERS AND SUCH:
Actually, I believe the game states that Branded do NOT have any special powers relative to Beorc, beyond the extended life span; the loss of powers is purely a "punishment" for mixing blood, and it occurs in the Laguz Parent (who has actual powers to lose).
That was why Ashnard severed his ties with Almedha and her child.  He thought "Hey, if I have a child that has blood of a Black Dragon, THE STRONGEST OF THE LAGUZ, he should be totally awesome!"  but found out that said child, after he was born, had no special powers to speak of, and hence wanted no part in it anymore, since a weakling child is useless to him (as one would expect.)

This is pretty consistent with the other branded too.  Of all the branded we see, only Zelgius comes off as exceptional, and Ike beats him one on one, and its implied that Greil at his prime (ie before Handicap) was stronger than Zelgius as well, hence why Zelgius kept pushing himself such that he could surpass his master eventually.  This strikes me as more that Zelgius' strength came from his upbringing and just general talent, not so much cause of his natural blood.

Micaiah's the only one who shows any sort of special powers, and hers are...cause of WHO her ancestor is (Lehran), not cause she's just a branded; Lehran is suppose to be exceptional due to his linkage with the Goddess, afterall, compared to other Laguz.


Unless I'm forgetting some important factor here, I'm pretty sure the game stated that Branded have no distinguishable differences compared to Beorc in terms of powers and what not; the only thing that really makes them "better" is that they live a lot longer.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2329 on: May 28, 2010, 07:33:25 PM »
Alpha Protocol - Game starts slow and the opening set of missions are longer than some of the later ones.  I started playing as Recruit, so I have not a great set of skills, picking something else first play through might have been a good idea, but hey it unlocks something.  Once I have got rolling with it though I am actually enjoying it.  It suffers from Console Portitis though sadly with a twitchy jerky mouse and shitty menus (LOL YOU MOUSED OVER ME 5 SECONDS AGO THAT IS WHAT OPTION YOU WANTED TO SELECT), but I can deal with it.  It isn't great, but it is pretty fun.  Sort of like a really small scale far more focussed version of Deus Ex combat.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2330 on: May 28, 2010, 07:49:17 PM »
I think branded do have stronger affinity for magic than is typical in beorc, but yeah, didn't mean to imply they have awesome laguz powers.  Basically instead of the parent turning into a dragon, both parent and child are people who will be alive for a long long time.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2331 on: May 28, 2010, 09:33:08 PM »
I think branded do have stronger affinity for magic than is typical in beorc, but yeah, didn't mean to imply they have awesome laguz powers.  Basically instead of the parent turning into a dragon, both parent and child are people who will be alive for a long long time.

That might only apply to half-Dragon branded like Sorenthough.
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« Reply #2332 on: May 28, 2010, 10:54:13 PM »
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« Reply #2333 on: May 29, 2010, 12:09:13 AM »
Check the TP store for the synth recipe.  Might be one of the ones there.  If not, just FAQ it I guess.  It's quite possible that's one of the ones that shows up out of order though.

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« Reply #2334 on: May 29, 2010, 01:01:36 AM »
I think branded do have stronger affinity for magic than is typical in beorc, but yeah, didn't mean to imply they have awesome laguz powers.  Basically instead of the parent turning into a dragon, both parent and child are people who will be alive for a long long time.
I think somebody (maybe Stefan?) at some point mentions that Branded have a certain affinity towards whatever end of the Magic/Might spectrum their Laguz parent was. Like, say, Tiger Branded have a natural affinity toward being strong and whatnot.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2335 on: May 29, 2010, 02:41:49 AM »
I think branded do have stronger affinity for magic than is typical in beorc, but yeah, didn't mean to imply they have awesome laguz powers.  Basically instead of the parent turning into a dragon, both parent and child are people who will be alive for a long long time.

That might only apply to half-Dragon branded like Sorenthough.
I think branded do have stronger affinity for magic than is typical in beorc, but yeah, didn't mean to imply they have awesome laguz powers.  Basically instead of the parent turning into a dragon, both parent and child are people who will be alive for a long long time.
I think somebody (maybe Stefan?) at some point mentions that Branded have a certain affinity towards whatever end of the Magic/Might spectrum their Laguz parent was. Like, say, Tiger Branded have a natural affinity toward being strong and whatnot.

That makes sense. Looking at all the Branded we know of:
Soren: Half-Dragon (Long life and Magical affinity)
Micaiah and Sanaki: Heron-descended (Longer life and Magical affinity)
Stefan (Called a Lion in his Epilogue text, so I'm assuming he's Lion-descended, and has a Physical affinity)
Zelgius (presumably some kind of Physical affinity. Since he seems to age a bit faster than Soren or Micaiah did, being just a bit younger than Greil after all, I would assume he's descended from a Lion or Tiger and not nearly as long-lived.)
"The little girl near the Queen of Crimea" - I'm assuming this is Amy due to when Yune said this, but I really didn't get much clarification on this. Is Largo some kind of Laguz or a Branded himself? Is Calill? Assuming that, then either Largo is a Tiger-descended with physical affinity or Calill is a Heron/Raven/Dragon-descended with a magical affinity. I would assume the former just from a passing glance at Largo. >.>;;

Somewhat related: Why did Ike and Mist grow up in Gallia and what possible effect does this have on the story?

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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2336 on: May 29, 2010, 02:43:50 AM »
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« Reply #2337 on: May 29, 2010, 03:08:57 AM »
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"The little girl near the Queen of Crimea" - I'm assuming this is Amy due to when Yune said this, but I really didn't get much clarification on this. Is Largo some kind of Laguz or a Branded himself? Is Calill? Assuming that, then either Largo is a Tiger-descended with physical affinity or Calill is a Heron/Raven/Dragon-descended with a magical affinity. I would assume the former just from a passing glance at Largo. >.>;;

Far Simpler than that; she's Adopted.  So what Callil and Largo are (or aren't) is totally irrelevant.

She kind of has to be for the time to make sense though; the two aren't quite a couple yet in FE9, let alone parents, and that was only 3 years prior FE10; Amy has to be at least 4, considering, so mathematically, adoption is the only way to justify her existence here.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2338 on: May 29, 2010, 08:35:34 AM »
And completing the list of "things FE10 doesn't like to tell you about the story", for djinn's amusement, the yaoi fangirl fodder scene.  Small type for the sake of not taking up a whole page more than for spoilers.

[Part IV Endgame (5); Soren] (*)

Soren: Ike... Um... Were you joking when you said you couldn't remember how we
    met?

Ike: Well, sorta. It was a long time ago.

Soren: How could you forget?

Ike: Relax, Soren. I got to thinking, and I remembered. I remember what
    happened in Gallia on the day we first met.

Soren: Ike...

Ike: Mother had gone shopping with Mist that day. I was wandering around the
    village all alone. I walked to the edge of the forest, looking for a stick
    I could pretend was a sword. There was a raven-haired boy lying on the
    ground.

Soren: I remember the huge oak tree by the clearing... I'd been sleeping in the
    hollow by the roots.

Ike: He looked like he was my age. He was as skinny as a twig, wearing rags and
    covered in dirt. He looked like he was near death. I took out my lunch and
    I handed it to him. He made a noise like a scared animal and shied away. He
    was suspicious of me at first, but eventually he took my sandwich and
    started to eat. It was like he'd never eaten before in his life. I didn't
    have anything else to feed him, so I told him to come to my house. But he
    kept shaking his head no.

Soren: I was afraid you were going to trick me. Afraid that you were going to
    chase me away after taunting me with food, just for a laugh...

Ike: I told the boy that I'd bring him some food the next day at the same time
    and place. He finally nodded when I said that. It made me happy. I felt
    like I was doing something right, helping this boy. Like I was the only one
    who'd do that.

Soren: ...I was happy, too. Not just because I wasn't hungry anymore. Because
    someone finally would talk to me. So I went back to the village again the
    next day. I was scared of the other villagers and their rocks and sticks,
    but I still went back.

Ike: That's right. That was Gallia back then. The beorc abused and tormented
    the Branded because the laguz shunned them. They wanted to avoid upsetting
    the laguz.

Soren: The villagers threw stones at me, called me an animal and a devil. But
    on the next day, the village was littered with corpses. Soldiers and
    peasants were in a panic.

Ike: It was my dad. He went crazy when the spirit of chaos in the medallion
    touched him.

Soren: I walked through the empty streets, checking bodies to see if you were
    dead. But I couldn't find you. I decided that you had to be alive. I took
    money and food from the village and headed for Crimea, a land of beorcs.

Ike: Soren...

Soren: On my way to Crimea, I kept seeing laguz from the beast tribe. They
    were terrifying, but after a while I realized something. They never
    attacked me. They all seemed to notice something about me, and then pretend
    they couldn't see me. That look was burned into my mind, and it was always
    the same. They'd scowl, then walk away like they'd never noticed me. In a
    way, that left me feeling older and more alone than if they'd attacked me.
    Hate... That I could understand. This was denial. They made me feel like I
    wasn't supposed to exist at all. That my simply being alive was an affront
    to the world. That was how the beasts treated me. And I hated them for it.
    It sat in my heart like a lead bar. Like a glacier.

Ike: ...

Soren: When I reached Crimea, I took refuge in a church along the way. They
    took my brand to be a sign that I had been trained in the arcane arts.
    They took good care of me, and taught me things. Once I had learned to
    speak and behave like other people, I wandered Crimea for several years.
    Then I finally found you.

Ike: But I'd...

Soren: Yes. You'd forgotten that day in Gallia. But I didn't care. My only wish
    was to see you again. I just wanted to see the only boy who had held out a
    warm hand when I had nothing.

Ike: Soren... Don't cry.

Soren: Don't cry? What? I'm not crying...

Ike: Soren, you're smart, but you're no good when it comes to your emotions.
    Come over here.

Soren: D-don't treat me like I'm a child! I'm not that--

Ike: Come on.

Soren: Shut up! Shut up...

Ike: Then I'll come over to you.

[he moves over]

Ike: It's all in the past, Soren...

Soren: ...Sniff... Sniff... Gwuh... Wahhhhhhhh! Ahhhhhhh!


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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2339 on: May 29, 2010, 09:22:34 AM »
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« Reply #2340 on: May 29, 2010, 12:53:30 PM »
Alpha Protocol - So I was rocking around specialising in Stealth and Tech stuff, everything is fine everything is good until one day you wake up and you are on fire.  The game went and pulled a MGS on me. Stealth around and stuff is all good, I am not trained up at all in guns, but I can do the thing I enjoy, sneaking around and stabbing people in the face.  OH HEY BOSS FIGHT, and I get bent over and fucked like a cheap hooker at 4 in the morning in Vegas.  Seriously I can even get it so I can stealth around the room of the boss, set up traps and stuff.  You know what happens?  I shoot him in the head at point blank with a shotgun and he loses his armor, then I set off a bomb right next to him and it barely damages him.  I try shotting him with the shotgun again, it barely damages him.  Then he punches me and I die almost instantly, or just get stunlocked and die.  If I try to maintain some distance and chip him down, he summons more guards and they fuck me in the arse or let him regen his armour back to full.  If I try to prolong it and try to regroup and start chipping away at him again then it prolongs the fight and in my trying to run away I will run into something and he will kill me.

What the fuck game.  I am really having fun like right up to that point.  Now I am annoyed.  I have been fighting this guy for ... 2 hours now almost?  Yeah I am out of ideas entirely.
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« Reply #2341 on: May 29, 2010, 01:13:45 PM »
Dammit Grefter I really want to like Alpha Protocol why are you saying stuff like this about it. Hmph.

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« Reply #2342 on: May 29, 2010, 04:29:22 PM »
It is okay, I probably should have gone to other cities and done missions there, pretty sure it was the last mission in Rome, so doing it with no weapon skill at all was a bit off.  Went to Moscow instead, having a ball with it again.  Got some Shotgun skill, so will see how the fight goes again.

It is hard to really say why I like the game, it isn't anywhere near as polished as some of the stuff I have played lately, so it grates a little in some ways, but that is probably me just being spoilt by all the Bioware releases.  Going in as someone that likes Deus Ex, Thief and a few other key games Strago I reccomend you pick it up at some point at least.

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« Reply #2343 on: May 29, 2010, 04:35:49 PM »
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« Reply #2344 on: May 29, 2010, 04:37:30 PM »
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That makes sense. Looking at all the Branded we know of:
Soren: Half-Dragon (Long life and Magical affinity)
Micaiah and Sanaki: Heron-descended (Longer life and Magical affinity)
Stefan (Called a Lion in his Epilogue text, so I'm assuming he's Lion-descended, and has a Physical affinity)
Zelgius (presumably some kind of Physical affinity. Since he seems to age a bit faster than Soren or Micaiah did, being just a bit younger than Greil after all, I would assume he's descended from a Lion or Tiger and not nearly as long-lived.)
"The little girl near the Queen of Crimea" - I'm assuming this is Amy due to when Yune said this, but I really didn't get much clarification on this. Is Largo some kind of Laguz or a Branded himself? Is Calill? Assuming that, then either Largo is a Tiger-descended with physical affinity or Calill is a Heron/Raven/Dragon-descended with a magical affinity. I would assume the former just from a passing glance at Largo. >.>;;

-Zelgius is descended from a bird, looks like a hawk? We see his brand, and those give away the type well enough.

-Sanaki isn't branded. Descended from mixed heritage does not imply branded; branded implies descended from mixed heritage. Stefan makes this very clear; both his own parents were normal beorc, but he is branded, and it's because of his ancestry.

-Amy is adopted, and even if she weren't that wouldn't make Calill/Largo branded, as above. It's pretty much impossible to speculate more about the nature of Amy's brandedness, though.

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« Reply #2345 on: May 29, 2010, 06:50:38 PM »
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Fiona might be useful for an all-DB game just because Canto will give her some utility that few (none?) of your other units will have.

Fiona doesn't suffer from the stat downs of carrying people so it makes a frontline Laura possible and I must do this tactic for that alone. There is only one map you can train Fiona and thankfully there is no need to worry about her dying as The black Knight will stand and break all the enemies puny weapons.

Its all set up really. She just needs to do her part and gain some good stat ups.

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« Reply #2346 on: May 29, 2010, 08:22:03 PM »
Miles Edgeworth AAI: Really fanstastic game and anyone who like the series should definately pick it up if they get the chance. For me the only other game in the series that's as good as this one is the second one and even then it's really good between the two. The characters look great in their new perspectives both in the large up close versions and the smaller sprites and the music is generally fantastic. The fourth and fifth cases are probably up with 2-3 for my favorite cases in the series and the other cases are at least solid. Miles is really likable despite being kind of a grump throughout the series and it really shows the strength of the writing that makes him so likable. I also like what they did with Kay and Gumshoe in the fourth and fifth cases. Larry and Wendy are both great when they're around and it's nice that the game gave them a moment to shine at the end. The game does have a few problems though. With all the old characters there really aren't that many new ones which means that each case only has a few new ones. This usually leads to there being very few suspects so I was usually able to figure out the suspect before the game made it obvious. Aside from that though, it's a very good game and is definately worth playing.

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« Reply #2347 on: May 30, 2010, 12:20:01 AM »
Holy crap, dude, you're... you're me.


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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2348 on: May 30, 2010, 01:32:48 AM »
Starting up a new game of Bloodlines to tide me over for Alpha Protocol on Tuesday.

Also, because Alpha Protocol is buggy, NMA has now officially announced that New Vegas is a shitty game.

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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #2349 on: May 30, 2010, 02:01:51 AM »
Eh it is only as bad as their other efforts in that department.  It isn't awesome or anything, but it is relatively average execution for a multiplatform release.  Give it a few months for the backlash to die down.  I think the biggest reaction to it is far more that it wasn't quite what people expected the game to be.  The last delay was definitely worth it financially.  Remembering that it was delayed from the 2009 release after the game was mostly finished, it was done more to avoid releasing it at the same time as Dragon Age.  Between then and now it would have just been swept up in amongst a few other big name releases.  Delay till May/June was probably a good call on Sega's part.
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