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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #125 on: January 06, 2010, 12:33:57 AM »
Using D-Dive for bosses is good, but best not use it for ALL bosses.  Generally, hold off on using it unless as a last resort; its very much an "Auto Win" button (D-Charge x3/4 + Twister One shots just about every boss in the game...I'm not kidding), but it will eat through your D-counter FASTER.  Try to muscle through a boss first, and if things seem to be going bad, then use D-Dive (or alternatively, if you've blown too many items, reset -> refight and just D-Dive from the beginning.)
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« Reply #126 on: January 06, 2010, 12:39:24 AM »
Towards the endgame you are likely to start having to D-dive the major bosses (unless your setup is really really good). But a lot of the earlier ones can be done the normal way without too much trouble, even without spamming the crap out of items. As long as you don't use it on randoms you SHOULD be all right... it is possible to go through the game D-Diving every single boss and still finish with <100% D-ration, but it is cutting it dangerously close and you should conserve it if possible. The best time to do fight fair is for earlier bosses, since trust me, it only gets harder.
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« Reply #127 on: January 06, 2010, 12:42:45 AM »
Buy lots of items. Watch boss tricks carefully. There is nothing the game will throw at you until the very end which you can't beat with just your wits and a healthy item supply. Granted, you definitely have enough D-counter to Wyrmstomp most/every boss in the game if you use it wisely. Just don't feel you have to.

The D-counter is really more about being intimidating than being an actual threat to make you restart. I know I had exactly the same reaction as you when I first played the game until I reasoned out how trivial the costs of just running around actually are.

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« Reply #128 on: January 06, 2010, 02:48:20 AM »
Bayonetta: I bought this today, aka the day it came out, cause well, I didn't realize QUITE how hyped the game was, and recognized that the game might actually sell out quickly, so if I don't get my hands on it fast, I'd have to wait a while for it, and being that I have no real obligations now (barring work, which only lasts 4 hours a day), this is an ideal moment to grab new cool looking games!

Anyway, just beat Chapter 3.  Initial impressions?

It really lives up to its hype.  The game is basically "Devil May Cry, but with a female lead, so of course the badass levels are reduced for massive fanservice."  Granted, Bayonetta still manages to look stylish, and pull off some of the same wacky antics Dante has (she just recently went lava surfing ON A HUGE DEMON to avoid being killed by said lava, for example.), and well, she's all over the place in gameplay.  The game actually does a good job of letting you do pretty much ALL the cutscene shenanigans in gameplay...I mean all.  You see her pull this crazy bullshit gun stunt out, and you think "There's no way the game will let me do that" ...lo and behold, its actually available!  Some of this stuff, granted, requires specific combos, which you're more likely to pull off by accident, but hey, they're there (and generally, all accidents are serendipity; you're trying to do a basic move, then you pull off one of her more advanced combos, and things get splattered...and you find yourself in no position to complain!)

One thing that does slightly annoy me about the plot isn't the plot itself, but how it shifts from genuine cutscenes (Good!) to still shots on a reel, as though they're trying for like an old 40s movie thing or something (I...don't get this myself; it gives the game its own unique flavor, true, but it makes things less fun to watch.)

Oh yeah, game has Quick Time events, cause hey, why not throw in some God of War aspects to fuck up some DMC!?  Unlike God of War, though, its far more fluid rather than detract from gameplay, cause they don't really stop action so much as move with it.  Its kind of like God Hand's aspects.  Though, the game also has genuine "Press BUtton to Not Die" events which does hurt the game some, though THANKFULLY, they don't seem to evolve much beyond single button presses so far, and a failure lets you start off from that exact quick time event.  Still, would have been nice if they just didn't exist at all.

Otherwise?  Game's shaping up to be really good, and maybe its the kind of game that will smack Capcom into making DMC5, cause its the first game that I've played that genuinely emulates DMC style combat, while having its own added flavor to make it not just a DMC-rip off.  No, God of War (at least the first) did not do that right; see, Bayonetta fights aren't repetitive nor are they trivial like God of Wars were, and your deaths come from genuine fights, not platforming fuck ups.  They're actual fights and they're fast paced rather than GLORIOUS ANIMATIONS SLAMMING DEMONS!!!!

Oh, that reminds me, Bayonetta takes after DMC for its use of gore and what not...as in, its more just added for graphical effect, which makes the scene look snazzier, cause its mostly demon angel blood, not humans, let alone humans getting decapitated, arms sliced off, etc., which is mostly just "LOOK AT THIS GORE ISN'T IT GRUESOME!?" Oh, hi God of War <.<

...I know, I'm slamming God of War down, but God of War was hyped just as much as Bayonetta, and really didn't live up to it.  Bayonetta, meanwhile, does actually live up to its hype!

Oh yeah, ONE LAST THING!

One thing that stands out to me for Bayonetta vs. DMC style combat?  The scope of it.

DMC fights are generally in smaller, tighter areas, and you tend to take advantage of this.  Larger areas tend to mean enemies just take advantage of that and get you from behind.  So generally, you want the smaller areas, so you can make use of your big shiny explosives in small corridors!

Bayonetta's the opposite; fights are more in big wide areas, so you can jump around like crazy, cause the nature of the combat is somewhat more mobile.  Generally, you want to get in wide areas, instead of stay in close quarters, where your mobility is minimized.

Not trying to say one is better than the other, just interesting how they're similar systems, but already I can feel enough of a difference that such a thing is noticeable!

So, uh, yeah, my first impressions, beyond a few minor nuisances, are generally pleasant.  Like I said, for all that the game got hyped to hell, it pretty much lives up to it, but then, I guess there's plenty of time for the game to FUCK UP HORRIBLY and make me eat my words! </cynical statement>
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #129 on: January 06, 2010, 03:49:06 AM »
Guitar Hero 5:  I could write a long post ranting about the numerous ways this game fails, but I think this sums it all up rather nicely:

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« Reply #130 on: January 06, 2010, 04:29:46 AM »
LONG PAUSE you too, Activision.
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« Reply #131 on: January 06, 2010, 05:07:33 AM »
SRWW - FUB'd Gaofighar on both mech stats and weaponry. As if the game wasn't utterly broked before.
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« Reply #132 on: January 06, 2010, 06:18:16 AM »
SotN: Maria chooses the strangest places to hang out. Across the hellish spike corridor, inside the creepy, suspended pentagram chamber? Yeah, strange girl. Anyway, I cleared everything in the castle (except the upper right passage leading from that clock room, which hopefully did not contain any nifty loot; I could never see how that place worked) and freed Richter from the clutches of SHAFT (I can dig it).

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« Reply #133 on: January 06, 2010, 10:00:44 AM »
Use the Nightmare tear in helm slot yeah (Both badge and tier being +8 Str in a yellow socket) and get the Agi +3% Crit damage meta or if you absolutely insist on the crit meta (Which is probably pretty close call for Unholy I guess) put the Nightmare Tear in your helm like you have (Pants slot bonus is not worth picking up especially) throw a Strength/Stam purple into your chest piece (I assume you are using the 75 badge head?  Not that the difference is really huge between going the shoulder or helm off piece, but I guess it depends on how much Hit you are running on other pieces, I am not familiar how much is on DK T9 DPS Set since I was working on tanking set).  160 gold isn't a huge loss, should make it back easy enough off a set of dailies.

Tier Helm since I need it for my 4slot.  Strength/Stam was what I was planning for my chest anyway once I replace it with something with slots.  As for hit, I'm currently overcapped by accident so I don't need to worry about that.

WoW: Bwhahahaha.  Yeah, the reason I was mad about the 160 was because I was so close to that damn thing.

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« Reply #134 on: January 06, 2010, 02:19:22 PM »
If you need the helm for you four piece did you pick up some Icecrown loot in one of your other slots or get something better than the 245 off set pieces from Triumph badges there?  Cause you should be pretty much using either the 245 shoulders or helm there short of raiding for better lot(Can't remember if you do raid sorry >_>, would have assumed you would pick up your 4 piece T9 much sooner on a DK if you did raid though) and if you are blowing past the hit cap (Not that being past the 8% soft cap is bad as a DK anyway, spell hit never hurt anyone) then you should pick up the 245 Helm in place of the shoulders since it has no hit.

WoW - 10 man ICC raiding wooo, we got Rotface down, working on Festergut.  For what kind of amounts to Loatheb and Grobbulus retreads (with 2 Gluth minibosses for trash!) they are kind of cool fights.  Rotface was pretty tightly tuned, but 10 man version is fairly simple with just stacking everyone on melee for the spores.    Festergut we are going to have to work on a bit, but then that shouldn't shock me, we never were ones for a clean Grobbulus kill.  Got a cloak upgrade, so that is one of the key pain in the arse to get pieces covered.  Can even get enough Primordial Saronite from my 2 alts to be able to make the Ilevel 264 boots if I find someone with the pattern already.  Otherwise I need to do a few more days worth of random heroics to buy the pattern.  Shame, the boots were one of my few heroic ToC pieces, but such is life.

Edit - Invert Rotface and Festergut there.  We got Festerguy down, he is the easy one.  Rotface is the Grobulus one.
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Re: Let's Play Some Motherf*$&ing Games: 2010!!!!!!
« Reply #135 on: January 06, 2010, 02:35:05 PM »
Dissidia- End of Zidane's path (Cloud, Firion, Zidane) What do you mean what's taking me so long >.> L9 vs L15~ Kuja is insane. Grrr I want to keep all my monies for Terra! <.<
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« Reply #136 on: January 06, 2010, 03:38:49 PM »
Dissidia- End of Zidane's path (Cloud, Firion, Zidane) What do you mean what's taking me so long >.> L9 vs L15~ Kuja is insane. Grrr I want to keep all my monies for Terra! <.<

Equipment carries over between characters, and having just one of an equip lets you use it on as many characters as you want.  Yeah, it defies RPG-logic that way; the main reason to have more than one is for purposes of synthing. 

I believe all of Terra's equips are used by Onion Knight as well (at least, the basic stuff), so yeah.  You can actually check who can use what in the shop by pressing Select on the equip and changing its stat display to eventually show who can use it; will be done in a style of numbers of course, blue = Cosmos, Red = Chaos IIRC (or just Top = Cosmos and Bottom = Chaos if I'm totally screwing the colors up!)  So naturally, a Blue "VI" would be Terra, a Red "IX" is Kuja, etc.
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« Reply #137 on: January 06, 2010, 05:19:37 PM »
I recommend D-Diving pretty much every boss on an initial play and then doing them legit on a replay, but I didn't particularly abuse items.

WoW: Levelling my Shaman. And by levelling, I mean taking a break from that to grind Darnassus rep because I don't like Elekks.

Demon's Souls: Started playing this again. Flamelurker is giving me fits, so I'm going back and item/soul collecting. Managed to get all the items out from under the green and red dragon after 7 or so deaths.

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« Reply #138 on: January 06, 2010, 06:36:27 PM »
Persona 3: I love Atlus humour. It's freaking brilliant. The references are everywhere and the humour is just so bizarre that you can't help but laugh.
I've just got past the first block in Tartarus, meaning I've done the trainwreck (literally!) Also taken Elizabeth on a date around Paulownia Mall, which is the main bit of 'bizarre humour' I meant - although, Kenji's S-Link is coming pretty close. I can imagine that'll end up being odd.
Talking of Imagine, that was the first reference that got me. "Spring: Year 20xx" on "Innocent Sin Online". Really, Atlus? That's not even subtle. And that's the best part. Tatsuya and Maya - deja vu? And that's not even mentioning the Cielo Mist drink. "Imported from Jamaica."
Have I mentioned how much I love Atlus lately?

In other news, Junpei is still annoying, finding S-Links is -.- and the guy in the old bookstore couple is :psyduck:. "Oh yeah, I forgot my son died. Sorry!"

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« Reply #139 on: January 06, 2010, 08:16:22 PM »
If you need the helm for you four piece did you pick up some Icecrown loot in one of your other slots or get something better than the 245 off set pieces from Triumph badges there?  Cause you should be pretty much using either the 245 shoulders or helm there short of raiding for better lot(Can't remember if you do raid sorry >_>, would have assumed you would pick up your 4 piece T9 much sooner on a DK if you did raid though) and if you are blowing past the hit cap (Not that being past the 8% soft cap is bad as a DK anyway, spell hit never hurt anyone) then you should pick up the 245 Helm in place of the shoulders since it has no hit.

No raiding.  No guild even.  I'd have to fight family for raid time and it's not worth that hassle.

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« Reply #140 on: January 06, 2010, 10:10:56 PM »
Snowfire: Classes don't affect stat growth at all so don't worry about that.

Cross Edge - Finished up 5-2.  Vermillion is a dick.  Perfect Barrier, Deep Breath, a defense boost at low HP, AND regen?  And counters?  Argh.

Need to synth up ultimate equips next I think.  Unfortunately I can't get more Empowering Jellies yet and only have like 7 so I will have to use less efficient composite items for now.  Sadness.

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« Reply #141 on: January 06, 2010, 10:19:33 PM »
Mega Man Maverick Hunter X: Half of the bosses cleared. Chill Penguin is still probably the easiest Maverick in the entire series, though Toad Man still has him beat overall. The absence of Powered Up in the marketplace makes me a sad Doma.

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« Reply #142 on: January 07, 2010, 12:24:46 AM »
Bayonetta: Up to Chapter 10.  Glancing at the Umbra Tears of Blood, aka the game's achievements, it seems there are only 14 chapters, cause the 2nd to last one is "Get Platinum in Verse 1 and 2 of Chapter 14!"  But then, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions.  Would make sense, mind, given the way the plot is heading, sounds like there may very well be not a lot left.

Game has been living up to my initial impressions still.  Would have been nice if I had figured out that you didn't have to BUY equips after making them, and buying them was more just "You can equip two at once, for your legs and arms at the same time!" type ordeal...I think...I could have used the damage push in a few earlier areas!  Oh well, that's my fault.

Another minor flaw this game has: Metal Gear Cutscene Syndrome.

Yeah, it really likes having cutscenes and such.  Some of these are just pure fun stylish action sequences (yay!), others are just pure plot that seems to drag (to its credit, the characters are colorful enough that the scenes aren't a total bland), it sometimes reaches a point of "oh come on, I just want to kill some angels!"

Also, Falling Sequences are neat (Yes, falling sequences...you have to play the game to understand what this is), and having a random Motorcycle Chase Sequence THAT YOU ACTUALLY GET TO PLAY (sort of like in FF7) was fun too.  I was afraid cause the latter is something that is so easy to screw up and make frustrating, but despite the game being hard to this point, it was actually pretty forgiving (my guess is that it was meant as a bit of a break from the hectic gameplay, more just a chance to relax, but try to keep things fun.)
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« Reply #143 on: January 07, 2010, 02:06:54 AM »
KotOR: Beaten.

So, good is dumb and evil is stupider.  Malak is a wanker.  Final battle was silly.  Do you have to kill all those Jedi in the light side ending?  I can't imagine so.

Good game, and had I not played Planescape Torment before it (or played it several years after its release) I probably would have had this near the top of my RPG list.  As is, annoying gameplay quirks (getting stuck on corners, not really being able to run away from fights because your stupid AI teammates keep running back to attack the enemies, etc) and George Lucas' executive meddling neutering every single character except HK (and yes Jolee shut up now) keep it lower.

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« Reply #144 on: January 07, 2010, 02:18:43 AM »
KotOR: Beaten.

So, good is dumb and evil is stupider.  Malak is a wanker.  Final battle was silly.  Do you have to kill all those Jedi in the light side ending?  I can't imagine so.

Nah, the end of KotOR 1 light side is basically the ending of A New Hope, but with lightsaber fighting instead of X-Wing vs. TIE combat.

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« Reply #145 on: January 07, 2010, 02:56:09 AM »
I just let him drain them and raped his sorry self whenever he came back for more. Dual-wielding is so ridiculous in that game.

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« Reply #146 on: January 07, 2010, 09:43:41 AM »
For Light Side you can Destroy Droid them from memory.  That or you can you know, just ruin his shit with something overpowered before he drains (Power game harder if you are going to Power game).
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« Reply #147 on: January 07, 2010, 02:23:30 PM »
Force Breach works, too.

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« Reply #148 on: January 07, 2010, 02:24:30 PM »
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« Reply #149 on: January 07, 2010, 02:56:00 PM »
Torchlight: I seem to be coming up on the end of the plot. Just did the last ember and bounty-hunt quests.
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