Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 29

[Nephrite]

"So you have fallen... please, challenge me again. You who are so capable of getting this far deserve a reward! Hahaha!"

Team Djinn vs. Floor 9
Team Gatewalker vs. Floor 7
Team Unoriginal vs. Floor 5
Team Nephrite vs. Floor 4



Team Unoriginal's Matches

Floor 6c: Super Smash

"I've been playing some of your human games lately... I thought this one might be interesting.

Battle #26: Ursula, Peter, Frog and Bob

*These enemies take 40% damage from all attacks.

Ursula: Let's go!
Frog: Doeth a barrel roll!
Peter: ...A what?

Battle #27: Valeria, Robo, Pikachu, Wigglytuff and Lucaro

*These enemies get to double-act.

Robo: So, you are a Captain. You also have a Falcon Rune. Would that make you Captain Fa-
Valeria: Enough.

Battle #28: Mario, Toadstool and Bowser

*These enemies resurrect with full HP and FP when killed once. They must be killed a total of two times.

Mario: It's-a-me! Mario!
Toadstool: Oh my!
Bowser: Grumble grumble...

Battle #29: Ike, Roy, Marth and Lyn

*These enemies counter all attacks against them, including non-damaging ones. They must counter with a damage attack.

Ike: Aether!!
Roy: Sealed Sword!
Lyn: Here's an item!
Marth: Falchion!

Boss Battle #6: Ness, Charizard, Blastoise and Venusaur

*These PCs cannot be hit with any kind of status or stat downs, including things like MP Damage, equip breaks or otherwise unblockable status.

Ness: Um... well, this is a bit odd. Oh well. Pokemon Fight! Ready... GO!


Team Nephrite's Matches

Floor 5c: Fly Me to the Moon

"So, you've found your way here. Very well, I think I'll make you fight some interesting people from beyond this terrestial plane."

Battle #21: Luna, Alex, Lucia and Ghaleon (EB/EBC Boss)

Luna: Alex...!
Alex: I will protect you, Luna!
Lucia: Ghaleon, I expect of you...
Ghaleon: Yes, yes... I'm aware.

Battle #22: Zeromus, Fusoya and Golbez

Zeromus: AS LONG AS THERE EXISTS DARKNESS OF THE HEARTS OF MORTALS...
Fusoya: Lunarians...
Golbez: I will defeat you.

Battle #23: Albedo and Virgil

Albedo: Let's go, ma peche.
Virgil: If you call me that one more time I'm going to kill you.

Battle #24: Nyx Avatar: Hermit and Justice

Nyx: I am... death. Let us see what you can do...

Boss Battle #5: Orgulla and Margulis

Orgulla: Sir, that wasn't a moon, that was a planet!
Margulis: We'll destroy them all with our DS system.


Team Super and Clear Tranquil's Matches

Floor 1: A Re-introduction (The Beginning)

"Ho ho ho ho! You've decided to return! Let us see what you can accomplish."

Battle #1: Palmer and Mist Dragon

Palmer: Muahaha! I am Science!!
Mist Dragon: Turn back!

Battle #2: Steelix, Shuckle and FF1 Knight

Knight: You shall not pass here!

Battle #3: Marle, Alice and FFT Priest

Marle: Yeah! Let's go!
Alice: Yuri...

Battle #4: Lich

Lich: I will... devour you...

Boss Battle #1: Change Relic

*The team has been fully healed!

"Welcome to Monado Mandala! Here, you shall die!"



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Team Unoriginal | Bartz, Fogel, Peppita, Aeris, Ditto (Quick Powder)(MT)
[Bartz: Mime, Mix, Summon, Time] (Monk/Thief/Chemist/Time Mage)
[Floor 6c: Super Smash]
*These enemies take 40% damage from all attacks. (i.e An attack that does 200 normal damage does 80 to them)
Team Unoriginal vs. Ursula, Peter, Frog and Bob (S2)
*The enemies get to doubleact.
Team Unoriginal vs. Valeria, Robo, Pikachu, Wigglytuff and Lucario
*The enemies must be killed twice. They resurrect fully restored when they are killed. If they are hit with a fatal status, they remove it and lose a "life."
Team Unoriginal vs. Mario, Toadstool and Bowser
*All actions against these enemies can be countered, including debuffs. They must counter with a weapon attack.
Team Unoriginal vs. Ike, Roy, Marth and Lyn
*These PCs cannot be hit with any kind of status or stat downs, including things like MP Damage, equip breaks or otherwise unblockable status.
Team Unoriginal vs. Ness, Charizard, Blastoise and Venusaur

Team Nephrite | Yuri1, Yuri2, Arnaud, Ricardo (Life), Ditto (Quick Powder)
[Floor 5c: Fly me to the Moon]
Team Nephrite vs. Luna, Alex, Lucia, Ghaleon (EB/EBC)
Team Nephrite vs. Zeromus (FF4), FuSoYa and Golbez (FF4DS, No plot paralysis)
**Full Heal
Team Nephrite vs. XS1 Albedo and XS1 Virgil
Team Nephrite vs. Nyx Avatar: Hermit and Justice
Team Nephrite vs. Orgulla and Margulis (XS2)

Team Super | Fogel, Jerin, Hellion (Speed?), FF1 Knight, Tia, Nall
Floor 1: An Introduction
Team Super vs. Palmer and Mist Dragon
Team Super vs. Steelix, Shuckle and FF1 Knight
Team Super vs. Marle, Alice and FFT Priest
Team Super vs. Lich (FF1)
*Full Heal
Team Super vs. Change Relic

Team Tranquil | Dart, Albert, Meru, Sharanda, Rose (Synergy Bonus)
[Floor 1: An Introduction]
Team Tranquil vs. Palmer and Mist Dragon
Team Tranquil vs. Steelix, Shuckle and FF1 Knight
Team Tranquil vs. Marle, Alice and FFT Priest
Team Tranquil vs. Lich (FF1)
*Full Heal
Team Tranquil vs. Change Relic

Multitarget - One person on the team's actions all become Multitargetted. However, the damage of regular attacks, the healing of all spells that restore HP or MP, the status rates of status spells or attacks and the effect of buffs or debuffs (rounded down to the nearest half point in the case of Pokemon) is reduced to 50% of the original base chance. (For example, Deadly Fingertips has a max 50% chance of hitting all targets.) This applies even if there is only one opponent left.

Life - One character's healing effects now also allows for revival, but reduces the final effect of any healing by 50%. (This means full healing is always 50%) The healing also only revives characters with 1 HP.

Speed? - The effective speed of one character is reversed (60% becomes 140%), but after the first round of combat, their speed returns to default and can not be increased in any way.

Synergy Bonus - In the case of the Legend of Dragoon Team, they have access to items and accessories. The items are limited, however.

[Nephrite]

Team Nephrite | Yuri1, Yuri2, Arnaud, Ricardo (Life), Ditto (Quick Powder)
[Floor 5c: Fly me to the Moon]
Team Nephrite vs. Luna, Alex, Lucia, Ghaleon (EB/EBC) - This one I can see how people might think I'd have trouble with. My plan of action is to have Arnaud Slow Down Alex first. If you see Ghaleon as being faster than Arnaud then things get a bit more hairy. Ditto transforms into Alex. Ricardo will throw up his Status immunity song so Luna's no threat and the Yuris kill Alex. From there it's just a bit of a grind against a Cascade Song'ed Ghaleon but I have enough healing and revival.
Team Nephrite vs. Zeromus (FF4), FuSoYa and Golbez (FF4DS, No plot paralysis) - Golbez is kind of a non-issue, there are far too many people to drain for him to be a threat. Ditto turns into Fusoya and may actually manage to have more HP than he does (...) Yuris smash Fusoya, move on to Golbez, Zeromus can't solo a team.
**Full Heal
Team Nephrite vs. XS1 Albedo and XS1 Virgil - Limit fighters versus this team. Right.
Team Nephrite vs. Nyx Avatar: Hermit and Justice - I can't really think of anything either of these two can do that threaten my team at all.
Team Nephrite vs. Orgulla and Margulis (XS2) - Arnaud Slow Downs Margulis first so even if Orgulla throws a Quick on him, it isn't helping. She can do whatever she wants, but I start getting my buffs out and then break Margulis into pieces. Not too hard.

Others later.

[VySaika]

Man, I got beat so bad that I retroactively lost on floor 4? That's harsh, Neph. <_<

[Clear Tranquil]

<_<

Who starts with their dragoons on my team again Neph? Just Rose, Rose/Meru? Also everyone can use attack spell items or just Sharanda?

[Nephrite]

Man, I got beat so bad that I retroactively lost on floor 4? That's harsh, Neph. <_<

Crap

To CT: Whomever starts with them normally, as far as I know?

[Bardiche]

Neph, super pass.

Abstain on the other two. CT for lack of LoD~

[Clear Tranquil]

Well that's Rose but I thought maybe because Meru started with her dragoon spirit as a 0.5 dungeon pick she might have it here as well. If not that's ok, just to clarify

[superaielman]

Team Super | Fogel, Jerin, Hellion (Speed?), FF1 Knight, Tia, Nall
Floor 1: An Introduction
Team Super vs. Palmer and Mist Dragon- Not scary.
Team Super vs. Steelix, Shuckle and FF1 Knight- Tia/Jerin/Hellion have magic to handle this.
Team Super vs. Marle, Alice and FFT Priest- Fogel splatters Marle, I probably can overwhelm Alice as well. Priest doesn't have the resources to handel this.
Team Super vs. Lich (FF1)- Tia and Jerin have fire.
*Full Heal
Team Super vs. Change Relic- I've got (bad) MT healing at this point to slow down Change relic's MT stuff, and he has issues damaging Fogel anyway. (Wind hits the physical resistance stat in OB)

Team Tranquil | Dart, Albert, Meru, Sharanda, Rose (Synergy Bonus)
[Floor 1: An Introduction]
Team Tranquil vs. Palmer and Mist Dragon- Dragoon spirits came insanely early IIRC, would see them as floor one for everyone besides Meru, who
gets it anyway according to her description.
Team Tranquil vs. Steelix, Shuckle and FF1 Knight- Blow magic to smite Steelix/Shuckle, Knight isn't threatening. Rebuild SP.
Team Tranquil vs. Marle, Alice and FFT Priest- Mmm. This could be difficult, as Rose is going to be eating a horrible OHKO if Alice or Priest target her. Think they can knock Marle out and put enough pressure on Alice to make this work, they do have a team advantage.
Team Tranquil vs. Lich (FF1)- Holy magic. NEXT.
*Full Heal
Team Tranquil vs. Change Relic- Strong kneejerk. Don't think he can magically OHKO anyone here, and he needs to do it as he is facing a lot of damage.

Will look at Uno's team later. Neph's requires some stat topicing.

[Unoriginal]

Super and CT pass easily.  I also pass, but it's a lot closer in places.  Quick helps a great deal here, but I think I can eke by even if I don't have it.  Abstain on Neph.

[dude789]

Super passes, Uno fails because fights 2 and the boss are extremely brutal. Abstain on CT and Neph.

[Clear Tranquil]

Well cool Albert should definitely have Rose Storm by F3 then. If the final's F7 ... then yeah I guess this makes sense. The team does need all the help it can get >.> Albert and Miranda should have their spirits from Lavitz and Shana anyway so yeah works. I'm not allowing them to start with all the spells they'd have already learned though, just the spirits (and obviously spells that said spirits initially come with =P) =-)

I think everyone passes. Neph's and Super's arguments for their teams work. Uno's picked a tough floor but he's also pulling out all the stops no holds barred and packing one hell of a punch considering Peppita has Power Dance > Faerie Friend chains this floor (which means powerdanced Bartz and Fogel as well)>.> <.< >.>

[Random Consonant]

Super passes.  Thinking Fogel can solo Change Relic and his team has no problems getting there.

CT passes as well.  Dart and Rose have their dragoon spirits F1 to me... Albert arguably does as well.  Sharanda I'm thinking gets it closer to F2, but it doesn't really matter.  Rose isn't as magically frail now as she is later on due to having a pretty strong start statwise if that matters.  Team gets attack items which help the otherwise limited magical offense as well.

Need to look at Unoriginal's team some more, abstain on Neph.

[Clear Tranquil]

<BlueGoddess> guys what's 184'798 to a 67'073 AVG?
<RandomConsonant> About 2.7x as much
<BlueGoddess> thanks =-)
<Unoriginal> Peppita SMASH, I assume?
<Unoriginal> (Don't remember her exact numbers, but not many games use that kind of damage scale)
<BlueGoddess> indeed
<RandomConsonant> That all comes out in the space of one turn?
<BlueGoddess> (L1 Power Dance, eight hit avg Faerie Friend)
<BlueGoddess> generally people allow PCs to expend their fury bar in one turn so yeah
<Unoriginal> And it does MP damage in roughly the same proportion, if memory serves
<BlueGoddess> indeed.

Just for the record -

Assuming L1 Power Dance only and avg hits for Peppita but max hits for everyone else is where the
184'798 figure comes in. However by this point in the dungeon Power Dance shouldn't only be L1 and Cliff/Nel don't have Max Shockwave/Divine Wrath yet =P


(*1) Peppita - 230'998~ HP, 20'000~ MP (184'798, 18'000~, eight hit AVG)(Short X - Power Dance X - Faerie Friend O > Power Dance X > Faerie Friend O > Power Dance X > Faerie Friend O 300% [60 MP, 8~% HP loss])

99 Fury HP Damages (with Berserk): 67073
1) Peppita - 131999 (Short X-Fairie Friend X 125%-Fairie Friend O 175%-Fairie Friend X 225%-Fairie Friend O 300%) [16% HP loss]
2) Nel - 98559 (Short X-Divine Wrath X 125%-Divine Wrath O 175%-Divine Wrath X 225%) [17% HP loss]
4) Cliff - 84327 (Short X-Max Shockwave X 125%-Max Shockwave O 175%-Max Shockwave X 225%) [12% HP loss]
3) Maria - 70100 (Short X-Magnetic Field X 125%-Energy Burst O 175%) [4% HP loss]
5) Mirage - 59572 (Short X-Acrobat Locus X 125%-Triple Kick O 175%-Acrobat Locus X 225%-Electric Fists O 300%) [13% HP loss]
9) Roger - 57728 (Short X-Piercing Claw X 125%-Raging Helmet O 175%-Piercing Claw X 225%-Raging Helmet O 300%) [20% HP loss]
6) Adray - 57000 (Short X-Emotion Torrent X 125%-Emotion Torrent O 175%-Emotion Torrent X 225%-Emotion Torrent O 300%) [24% HP loss]
7) Fayt - 56983 (Short X-Side Kick X 125%-Ethereal Blast O 175%-Side Kick X 225%) [15% HP loss]
8) Albel - 37893 (Short X-Dragon Roar X 125%-Shockwave Swirl O 175%-Dragon Roar X 225%) [5% HP loss]
10) Sophia - 16566 (Short X-Firebolt X 125%-Average Meteor Swarm O 175%-Firebolt X 225%) [15% MP loss]

With L10 Power Dance 376'197~/300'957~ (not counting PD's slight percentage boosts from cancelling, which the L1 data doesn't either) This more or less matches my in game experiences (though it flutuates there due to said slight percentage boosts and those turn stacking so yeah) =-)

Since Uno's Pep has also been using other stuff so far in the dungeon though YMMV on what level Power Dance is by this point. Again I'd say L5 at least since all dances can be chain spammed like mad to that level while on the other hand it does take a bit longer from L5-10, especially if one's been using more than two dance types.

[superaielman]

Team Unoriginal | Bartz, Fogel, Peppita, Aeris, Ditto (Quick Powder)(MT)
[Bartz: Mime, Mix, Summon, Time] (Monk/Thief/Chemist/Time Mage)
[Floor 6c: Super Smash]
*These enemies take 40% damage from all attacks. (i.e An attack that does 200 normal damage does 80 to them)
Team Unoriginal vs. Ursula, Peter, Frog and Bob (S2)- The key to this fight is smashing Ursula before she can wreck some havoc with her status. Should be able to do that.
*The enemies get to doubleact.
Team Unoriginal vs. Valeria, Robo, Pikachu, Wigglytuff and Lucario- I don't think  Neph can get past this fight with Bartz alive. Lucario or Valeria getting turns is *bad* news and means Bartz ends up dead. Robo can't be statused either.  Pretty damn good odds they can kill Ditto as well.
*The enemies must be killed twice. They resurrect fully restored when they are killed. If they are hit with a fatal status, they remove it and lose a "life."
Team Unoriginal vs. Mario, Toadstool and Bowser- Whoof. Just a grind.
*All actions against these enemies can be countered, including debuffs. They must counter with a weapon attack.
Team Unoriginal vs. Ike, Roy, Marth and Lyn- Too much offense, I think. Uno really needs more than one reviver on this floor.
*These PCs cannot be hit with any kind of status or stat downs, including things like MP Damage, equip breaks or otherwise unblockable status.
Team Unoriginal vs. Ness, Charizard, Blastoise and Venusaur

I also pass, but it's a lot closer in places.  Quick helps a great deal here, but I think I can eke by even if I don't have it.

I definitely want to see a floor breakdown. You look utterly fucked as of now.

[DjinnAndTonic]

Team Nephrite | Yuri1, Yuri2, Arnaud, Ricardo (Life), Ditto (Quick Powder)
[Floor 5c: Fly me to the Moon]
Team Nephrite vs. Luna, Alex, Lucia, Ghaleon (EB/EBC) -

This one I can see how people might think I'd have trouble with. My plan of action is to have Arnaud Slow Down Alex first. If you see Ghaleon as being faster than Arnaud then things get a bit more hairy. Ditto transforms into Alex. Ricardo will throw up his Status immunity song so Luna's no threat and the Yuris kill Alex. From there it's just a bit of a grind against a Cascade Song'ed Ghaleon but I have enough healing and revival.

The problem I see here is resources. Lucia and Luna have plenty of healing and revival between them, and you're using all your offense on Alex. The girls keep Alex up and moving, and if Ricardo drops the Status Immunity song, then Luna starts wrecking havok. I first thought that Ditto-Alex could bust out some MT damage and handle -that- problem, but Ghaleon just backhands him like a hysterical woman and if you spend the resources to bring him back, he has to Transform again. I'm just not seeing what you can do to break out of the revival loop without leaving yourself open to smackdown/status.


Team Unoriginal | Bartz, Fogel, Peppita, Aeris, Ditto (Quick Powder)(MT)
[Bartz: Mime, Mix, Summon, Time] (Monk/Thief/Chemist/Time Mage)
[Floor 6c: Super Smash]
*These enemies take 40% damage from all attacks. (i.e An attack that does 200 normal damage does 80 to them)
Team Unoriginal vs. Ursula, Peter, Frog and Bob (S2) - Ditto turns everyone into Peppita, 5 times the status-whoring happens. (Alternately, her damage is more than enough to handle Frog~)
*The enemies get to doubleact.
Team Unoriginal vs. Valeria, Robo, Pikachu, Wigglytuff and Lucario - Dear God. Valeria kills Ditto before it turns everyone into Fogel. Pikachu statuses Fogel. Things go downhill from there.


Super passes. Hellion/Jerin versus Floor 1.

CT passes. Dart and Rose damage is pretty good here, and the others can spam the soon-to-be-useless magic items for kicks. They probably use one really good one on the healers match to keep from wasting any other resources.

[Unoriginal]

Wouldn't Peppita go and status out everyone but Robo in that case?  And at this point, if Ditto's Transforming everyone, it's probably better to go Bartz for the giant pile of options(and the piles of HP, but that's beside the point~)

[SnowFire]

Team Nephrite | Yuri1, Yuri2, Arnaud, Ricardo (Life), Ditto (Quick Powder)
[Floor 5c: Fly me to the Moon]
Team Nephrite vs. Luna, Alex, Lucia, Ghaleon (EB/EBC)
I...  think it's pretty inarguable that Ghaleon is faster than Arnaud if he uses his ST damage.  So he does, and Arnaud is dead or paralyzed.  Not sure that's the end for Nephrite, though.  Alex is dead average speed and Yuri2 is 101%.  So both Yuris go first anyway and...  can they kill Alex?  Yuri2 has the non-elemental Demon Rays, but Yuri1's big damage is all elemental at this point, and I'm usually inclined to let Alex halve all elements rather than just fire/ice/lightning.

Anyway, let's assume that Alex falls.  Next interp question: Does Ditto's transform get status resistance / immunity too?  Apparently it grabs elemental strength / weakness, but status resistance doesn't really exist in Pokemon, so hrmm.  But if the Quick Powder makes him above average speed, sure, become Alex.  Luna Temptation Songs anyway to Sleep Ricardo (SH3 Sleep doesn't exist, right?) and stop cheap team revival.  Next turn Ghaleon has to blow up Ditto...  and that leaves the two Yuris.  One Yuri revives, but Alex isn't a valid target anymore, though I suppose Ghaleon would work.  Init issue here since Luna may Temptation Song anyway if Ditto is revived but untransformed, and can nab Ricardo too if it missed him before.  Other Yuri goes for damage on Luna...  but she probably got DEF buffed by Lucia turn 1, and Lucia can heal Luna turn 2.  Turn 3, Ghaleon charges his mega-damage, and only Ricardo has Arc Cure (and it's halved, too!) with Ditto unable to stay as Alex for Blue Dragon Heal.  I'm sure the Yuris can maybe survive this but then they're really heal-locked, Arnaud is dead before he can break out of parlaysis (if he wasn't already dead), Ditto is re-dead if he was revived... yeah, it's looking bad.

Could be convinced otherwise but voting Dungeon for now.

Super and CT get pass votes.  Unoriginal...  can you give us a sample of what kind of brutal stuff Bartz is unleashing off Thief speed?  Most Mix stuff is ST at a guess so that might complicate things, as super does have a point that wiping out all the FEers could be troublesome.

[Nephrite]

Team Nephrite | Yuri1, Yuri2, Arnaud, Ricardo (Life), Ditto (Quick Powder)
[Floor 5c: Fly me to the Moon]
Team Nephrite vs. Luna, Alex, Lucia, Ghaleon (EB/EBC)
I...  think it's pretty inarguable that Ghaleon is faster than Arnaud if he uses his ST damage.  So he does, and Arnaud is dead or paralyzed.  Not sure that's the end for Nephrite, though.  Alex is dead average speed and Yuri2 is 101%.  So both Yuris go first anyway and...  can they kill Alex?  Yuri2 has the non-elemental Demon Rays, but Yuri1's big damage is all elemental at this point, and I'm usually inclined to let Alex halve all elements rather than just fire/ice/lightning.

Anyway, let's assume that Alex falls.  Next interp question: Does Ditto's transform get status resistance / immunity too?  Apparently it grabs elemental strength / weakness, but status resistance doesn't really exist in Pokemon, so hrmm.  But if the Quick Powder makes him above average speed, sure, become Alex.  Luna Temptation Songs anyway to Sleep Ricardo (SH3 Sleep doesn't exist, right?) and stop cheap team revival.  Next turn Ghaleon has to blow up Ditto...  and that leaves the two Yuris.  One Yuri revives, but Alex isn't a valid target anymore, though I suppose Ghaleon would work.  Init issue here since Luna may Temptation Song anyway if Ditto is revived but untransformed, and can nab Ricardo too if it missed him before.  Other Yuri goes for damage on Luna...  but she probably got DEF buffed by Lucia turn 1, and Lucia can heal Luna turn 2.  Turn 3, Ghaleon charges his mega-damage, and only Ricardo has Arc Cure (and it's halved, too!) with Ditto unable to stay as Alex for Blue Dragon Heal.  I'm sure the Yuris can maybe survive this but then they're really heal-locked, Arnaud is dead before he can break out of parlaysis (if he wasn't already dead), Ditto is re-dead if he was revived... yeah, it's looking bad.

Could be convinced otherwise but voting Dungeon for now.

Super and CT get pass votes.  Unoriginal...  can you give us a sample of what kind of brutal stuff Bartz is unleashing off Thief speed?  Most Mix stuff is ST at a guess so that might complicate things, as super does have a point that wiping out all the FEers could be troublesome.

It is worth noting that Yuri2 has MT revival. Ditto's copying copies type, so I would also see that as copying elemental resistances, but probably not status resistance. Quick Powder makes Ditto about 1 SD above average speed as well, for reference.

Also, realistically, my team doesn't have to kill Alex. They can easily dispatch Luna before she can do anything and also take out Lucia with MT damage. All Alex can do is cast Red Dragon Anger which I can heal off and if Luna is dead then Ricardo won't be, or Ghaleon will have to try and kill him to stop him from MT Reviving everyone. It's also worth noting that Ghaleon either goes after Arnaud or Ricardo, he can't really go after both.

Also, to Djinn, Lucia and Luna don't... have revival. They can heal, I think, though?

[DjinnAndTonic]

What form of Lucia? I'm quite sure she has revival by the end of her stint as a temp.

[dude789]

Wouldn't Peppita go and status out everyone but Robo in that case?  And at this point, if Ditto's Transforming everyone, it's probably better to go Bartz for the giant pile of options(and the piles of HP, but that's beside the point~)

IIRC Valeria, Pikachu and Lucario are all decently above average speed. Also, Ditto's weakness to Lucario's big damage before transform sure isn't helping things.

[Nephrite]

What form of Lucia? I'm quite sure she has revival by the end of her stint as a temp.

I was going on endgame Lucia, I've never heard of her having revival though. It's kind of a moot point though since her durability is pretty crap.

[Talaysen]

Any status resistance in Pokemon is locked to type (outside of buffs).  Fire types are immune to Burn for example.  If Ditto directly copies type, then it would copy those resistances as well, I assume.

[Unoriginal]

Bartz's options?  Off the top of my head, sticking with the more relevant stuff, Time gives Quick, X-Zone for 50% MT ID, Slowga, and Stop.  Mix, aside from the healing, gives a bunch of buffs and Berserk.  Summon will, as he gets levels in it, give some more high accuracy status options and high accuracy MT ID in Odin, MT Reflect with Carbunkle, and a physical damage shield with Golem.  He's also sitting on 130%ish HP and has counters, if that helps.


As for Ditto, it turns out Speed Powder flat out doubles speed, so he's probably going first in most fights.  Uh, if memory serves, at least.  I do remember hearing it mentioned though.


And I think I have seen Lucia's revival spell on her list, but she's never actually cast the thing.  Might be scripted to only go off if Hiro somehow manages to fail it up against the last plot-ish fight against Zophar or something.

[dude789]

Does Mime get all the passive stuff like HP + 130%? I thought only the Bare class got that. Speed Powder lets Ditto get rid of the fighting weakness, but beyond that I don't think things change that much. I don't think Bartz ends up getting a turn off since Pikachu, Valeria and Lucario are all dealing over PCHP per turn and are all faster than him.

[Taishyr]

HP+30% doesn't carry over to Freelancer or Mime.