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List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« on: February 11, 2010, 10:07:03 PM »
Godlike

Winners:

1. Xorn: 15.5
2. Piastol: 15.25
3. Ryu4: 14
4.Lavos: 12.57

Losers:

5. Shania: 11.5
6. Arecus: 11.38
7. Luther: 9.83
8. Gilbert: 9

Out:

9. Ted: 7.92
10. Seymour: 7.69
11. Miguel: 5.54
12. Black Frost: 4.75
13. Jessica: 4.61
14. Beatrix: 3.14
15. Claude: 2.15
16. Id: 1.72

Heavy

Winners:

1. Red: 13.72
2. Dehuai: 13.33
3. Tidus: 12.23
4. Lenus: 11.25

Losers:

5. Alena: 10.63
6. Rita: 10.25
7. Amon: 9.41
8. Rufus: 7.91

Out:

9. Nina: 7.76
10. Knight: 7.07
11. Jeremy: 6.92
12. Tosh: 6.38
13. Tana: 4.76
14. Neclord: 4.67
15. Rydia: 2.21
16. Sage: Disqualified (11.66)

Middle

Winners:

1. Ulf: 12.5
2. Valeria: 12.42
3. Nina2: 11.31
4. Jude: 11

Losers:

5. Ayne: 11
6. Lyon: 10.83
7. Alexia: 10.5
8. Domingo: 9.8

Out:

9. Blaziken: 9.6
10. Vormav: 7.77
11. Bowie: 7.7
12. Roxis: 6
13. Peter: 5.1
14. Laharl: 4.46
15. Guy: 3.3
16. Harle: 2.67

Light

Winners

1. Blastoise: 14.10
2. Alonso: 13.86
3. Sencea: 13.33
4. Serph: 11.29

Losers:

5. Zoah: 10.45
6. Bernadette: 10.4
7. Galleon: 10.1
8. Logg: 9.2

Out:

9. Kongol: 8.5
10. Kain: 8.45
11. Lowen: 6.4
12. Emma: 5
13. Brey: 4.67
14. Zappa: 3.45
15. Onix: 3.27
16. Mullen: 2.89

Godlike:

Lady (SH3)
Jenna Angel (DDS)
False Althena (Lunar:EBC)
Charlton (XF)
Dhaos (ToP)
Zenon (Dis2)
Persephone (WA5)
Patriarch (XS2)
Riou (S2)
Rashidi (OB)
Berle (SO2)
Deis (BoFs)
Emily (S3)
Cyril (SO2)
Zack Fair (FF7:CC)
Albedo (XSs)

Heavy:


Alicia (VP2)
Serge (CC)
Edge Eblan (FF4)
Daos (Lufia 2)
Adel (FF8)
Lassic (PS4)
Kanon (WA2)
Velna (LoL2)
Wugui (SH1)
Fei Fong Wong (XG)
Berserk (WA1)
Mithos Yggdrasil (ToS)
Athos (FE7)
Ike (FE9)
Saki Inugami (SH2)
Barbarossa (VP1)

Middle:

Brusier Khang (ToD)
Guy (FE7)
Nelis (S5)
Nightburn Auckland (WA5)
Jill Fizzart (FE9)
Nanaki (FF7)
Gruga (AtLC)
Hero (Lufia 1)
Killey (Suikos)
Rudy Roughknight (WA1)
Argilla (DDS)
Blanca (SH2)
Hippopressor (MMXCM)
Vesper (SO2)
Duster (Mother 3)
Kraken (FF1)

Light:

Aisha Knudel (OB)
Lunn (Lunar:EBC)
Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
Colette Brunell (ToS)
Kid (CC)
Asch (TotA)
Estella (S3)
Vitali (SN)
Lucia (EBC)
Lucia (SH2)
Cyan Garamonde (FF6)
Mallow (SMRPG)
Rennac (FE8)
Randi (SoM)
Funguy (CC)
Nara/Meena (DQ4)
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 10:19:04 PM »
Godlike:

1. Lady
2. Jenna
3. False Althena
*drop*
4. Zenon
5. Rashidi
6. Patriarch
*drop*
7. Deis
8. Berle
9. Charlton- Too much status reliance.
10. Riou- Boy, that is a nasty shot though.
11. Emily
12. Cyril- Bad.
13. Albedo- Haaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahaha.



Heavy:

1. Wugui- Magic is too common.
2. Lassic- Solid H/G boss.
3. Fei- Solid H/G PC.  
4. Serge- IIRC he isn't far from a OHKO. That offense is mean.
5. Velna- I think.
6. Daos- Weird spoiler without focusing. I think he gets this high.
7. Edge- I donno, his record is fairly impressive in Heavy. That speed/status combo keeps him in more fights than it should.
8. Saki- Kneejerk.
9.  Adel- Solid Heavy boss.
10. Alicia- Heal is a neat trick! Just it has some painful limitations thanks to Light Swordsman offense.
11. Ike- Doesn't have much outside of Aether for limit smashing and doubles for the slow. The FE style of fighter does not really work in Heavy, though that defense is very nice.
12. Athos- Doesn't have speed or evasion, and I don't give him the dark books.
13. Barbarossa- VP boss.
14. Berserk- WA boss.
15. Kanon- PC form.

Middle:

1. Nanaki- 2HKO with a limit and FF7 status blockers. Yeah, it works.
2. Guy- Swordmaster evasion and speed.
3. Bruiser- That offense is brutal. Needs to upgrade.
4. Gruga- Invincible is good enough in Middle.
5. Nelis- Rage Rune plus S5 equips.
6. Killey- Nelis remix. This is a nasty field.
7. Hero- Solid stats, though he really wants more speed.
8. Kraken- Solid middle boss.
9. Jill- 2HKO and defense! Basically is Kraken.
10. Argilla- Good healer! Physical durability fails.
11.  Blanca- Decent enough.
12. Vesper- Kneejerk.
13. Hippopressor- Needs more offense.
14. Rudy- Lufia Guy with slightly more offense and no skillset. Not a winning trade.

Light:


1. Aisha- Not enough fighters in light slow down OB clerics, and mages almost always lose.
2. Kid- Fast 3HKO that turns into a 2HKO against the frail.
3. Vitali- Kneejerk respect for his stats.
4. Estella- Sure.
5. Lunn- Remember the duel form being okay? May abstain. Blah.
6. Frank- SH blockers and better resources puts him above Funguy.
7.  Mallow- Kneejerk.
8. Funguy- Good strength helps some. He's got a weak 2HKO.
9. Cyan- Spoils some people with status.
10.  Rennac- Pretty bad all around.
*Drop into awful range*
11. Randi- Bad.
12. LuciaSH- Has no DL skillset.
13. Nara- Has no HP.
14. Lucia- Rando AI. Fail.
15. Asch- Boss form. Asch is pretty awful.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 02:01:21 AM by superaielman »
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 07:25:33 AM »
Godlike:

1Jenna Angel (DDS)
2Lady (SH3)
3Dhaos (ToP)
4False Althena (Lunar:EBC)
5Charlton (XF) - The next three feel interchangeable
6Zenon (Dis2)
7Persephone (WA5)
8Deis (BoFs) - Best PC in this field I'm thinking.
9Zack Fair (FF7:CC) - Plays well in Godlike, though average stats~
10Riou (S2) - H/G borderliners from here on.
11Berle (SO2)
12Emily (S3)
13Rashidi (OB)
14Cyril (SO2)
15Albedo (XSs)

Heavy:

1Wugui (SH1) - H/G borderliners~
2Fei Fong Wong (XG) - I love the Yamikei clause. So does Fei.
3Daos (Lufia 2) - L3~
4Lassic (PS4) - Competent boss
5Mithos Yggdrasil (ToS) - Compet- well, gameplay-wise he's pretty good.
6Athos (FE7) - High Heavy. Athos smash~
7Ike (FE9) - High Heavy.
8Saki Inugami (SH2) - Spoilery boss
9Serge (CC) - Allowing common elements hurts his damage, but allowing semi-unique elements gives him pseudo-SL.
10Alicia (VP2) - Heal tricks are surprisingly awesome. Soul Crush charging lets her spoil a bunch of people.
11Barbarossa (VP1) - I have a lot of respect for his durability, I must have fought him underleveled?
12Edge Eblan (FF4) - Speedy, spoilery. Could go higher, I'm never sure which form is most commonly used.
13Adel (FF8)  - The rest~
14Kanon (WA2)
15Berserk (WA1)


Middle:

1Nightburn Auckland (WA5) - Good Middle Boss.
2Guy (FE7) - Best FE-er in Middle?
3Jill Fizzart (FE9) - Beastman-slayer!
4Nanaki (FF7) - Hey look, a Beast~
5Killey (Suikos) - Suikomages here
6Nelis (S5)
7Blanca (SH2) - Plot Crests and Ring augments could probably put him higher.
8Gruga (AtLC) - Close, but the limited amount of Invincible puts him here.
9Duster (Mother 3) - Dog #3!
10Argilla (DDS) - Healer, but oh god the elemental weakness. In MIDDLE.
11Hero (Lufia 1) - Call me when you get more speed.
12Rudy Roughknight (WA1) - Call me when you find out what speed is.
13Hippopressor (MMXCM) - Epic.
14Vesper (SO2)
15Kraken (FF1)

Light:

1Aisha Knudel (OB) - Pool is fixed. I'm calling you out, Aiel.
2Estella (S3) - Only one here even close to a good Light?
3Colette Brunell (ToS) - Takes advantage of my weird ranged ARPG interps.
4Frank Goldfinger (SH3) - Best possible interp of Frank to annoy aiel.
5Kid (CC) - Common steals Kid!
6Lucia (SH2) - Plot Crests give Lucia some damage~
7Asch (TotA) - Temp form is at least an average-ish Light.
8Cyan Garamonde (FF6) - Handles Healers!
9Mallow (SMRPG) - Average-ish Light with some options. Mindreading!
10Lucia (EBC) - Not penalizing AI~
11Randi (SoM) - Uh... ARPG speed respect!
12Vitali (SN) - Lucius-slayer! ...and not much else!
13Funguy (CC) - Common CC elements doesn't really help him.
14Rennac (FE8) - Counters!
15Lunn (Lunar:EBC) - Lol
16Nara/Meena (DQ4) - Lol-ier

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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 01:18:46 AM »
Godlike
1.) Lady (SH3)
2.) False Althena (Lunar:EBC)
3.) Dhaos (ToP)
4.) Persephone (WA5)
5.) Rashidi (OB)
6.) Albedo (XSs)
7.) Patriarch (XS2)
8.) Zenon (Dis2)
9.) Deis (BoFs)
10.) Cyril (SO2)
11.) Riou (S2)
12.) Emily (S3)
13.) Berle (SO2)

Heavy
1.) Lassic (PS4)
2.) Ike (FE9)
3.) Wugui (SH1)
4.) Athos (FE7)
5.) Serge (CC)
6.) Kanon (WA2)
7.) Daos (Lufia 2)
8.) Barbarossa (VP1)
9.) Fei Fong Wong (XG)
10.) Mithos Yggdrasil (ToS)
11.) Alicia (VP2)
12.) Edge Eblan (FF4)
13.) Saki Inugami (SH2)
14.) Adel (FF8)
15.) Berserk (WA1)

Middle
1.) Guy (FE7)
2.) Vesper (SO2)
3.) Rudy Roughknight (WA1)
4.) Hero (Lufia 1)
5.) Nightburn Auckland (WA5)
6.) Nanaki (FF7)
7.) Nelis (S5)
8.) Jill Fizzart (FE9)
9.) Kraken (FF1)
10.) Killey (Suikos)
11.) Blanca (SH2)

Light
1.) Colette Brunell (ToS)
2.) Kid (CC)
3.) Mallow (SMRPG)
4.) Estella (S3)
5.) Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
6.) Asch (TotA)
7.) Lunn (Lunar:EBC)
8.) Aisha Knudel (OB)
9.) Nara/Meena (DQ4)
10.) Rennac (FE8)
11.) Funguy (CC)
12.) Lucia (Lunar:EBC)
13.) Cyan Garamonde (FF6)
14.) Lucia (SH2)
15.) Randi (SoM)

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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2010, 01:45:24 AM »
Godlike

1. Lady (SH3): Oh god so much smash. You can stop most of it by OHKOing her but that's uh hard.
2. False Althena (Lunar:EBC): Ridiculous slugger if lightning isn't blocked. Then she's merely good.
3. Jenna Angel (DDS): Similar smash to Lady except she's worse in long fights and uh probably loses to Malik.
4. Persephone (WA5): Ridiculous slugger if opponent speed doesn't mess with her, which it does often enough to keep her out of High.
*drop*
5. Berle (SO2): Element spoiling and a decent sluggers against non-healers.
6. Deis (BoFs): Into the Low Godlikes now! Nobody else is above 4.6.
7. Charlton (XF): Around here.
8. Riou (S2): Needs to not be walled by Holy.
9. Cyril (SO2): Or something.
10. Patriarch (XS2): He beats some mages Riou doesn't, but otherwise has the same problem and more.
11. Emily (S3): Uh, evade. And fast smashing is good! Bad type though.
12. Albedo (XSs): Frail limit boss is never good. Maybe I should figure out 2 and vote on that. Although... the Absorb type move is pretty scary I guess...

Heavy:

1. Barbarossa (VP1): Rubicant without the HP (though less walled by fire defence, still 2HKOs). This is still Godlike, I think.
2. Velna (LoL2): OHKO damage, ID, physical immunity! Too bad about the speed and mdur.
3. Fei Fong Wong (XG): Low OHKO off good speed and decent durability.
4. Lassic (PS4): Slow with nothing fatal gives him some problems in Heavy, but otherwise, great overall slugger.
5. Athos (FE7): Nosferatu shenanigans plus near magic immunity.
6. Daos (Lufia 2): hate. But yeah, see Lassic except with better mdur (except holy!) but worse pdur. See Wugui for what I think about that.
7. Berserk (WA1): ACF Berserk bashes heads. Not sure which form of his I vote on, but both probably hang around here.
8. Wugui (SH1): Velna with about a third the damage and blocking the other damage type (think physicals are more common so yeah).
9. Saki Inugami (SH2): The damage is really good but comes off slowly and she's not exactly durable. Seal spoils a few below average speed mages.
10. Ike (FE9): Good pdur and counters and such.
11. Alicia (VP2): Heals forever with good blockers.
12. Edge Eblan (FF4): Image and status are both good.
13. Serge (CC): 2HKO turn 1, OHKO turn 2 or something? I dunno. In Heavy I don't think that's as good as Lawfer, especially since he lacks blockers and has worse HP/speed.
14. Kanon (WA2): How is PC Kanon not last?
15. Adel (FF8): Just so much worse than Ultimecia, so don't expect much respect here.

Division. Of. HIPPOPRESSOR:

1. Guy (FE7): That FE mix of dodge and damage.
2. Nightburn Acklund (WA5): Great speed and decent offence. HP could be better but it's not horrid.
3. Nanaki (FF7): Sure. If he's faster than his opponent he'll usually get a limit and two normal turns (nearly impossible to kill in one turn due to FF7 blockers) which is nasty. If he's slower he sucks, but 115% speed or whatever makes that at least uncommon.
4. Nelis (S5): Awesome damage off good speed with good equips. Being all fire is of course a concern.
5. Killey (Suikos): Nelis remix. Think less damage/durability wins over the better speed and physical backup, though, if barely.
6. Hippopressor (MMXCM): So weird. Spoils ranged physicals. Spoils melee physicals by getting off Shark Missiles. Spoils slow mages. Loses otherwise. But... that describes a lot of Middle. So he can go here. (ALSO HE IS THE BEST.)
7. Kraken (FF1): Solid 2HKO and good pdur. Dull but effective enough.
8. Jill Fizzart (FE9): Decent FEer with the counters and the pdur.
9. Blanca (SH2): Healing and statusblockers. MP/SP are concerns for long fights.
10. Rudy Roughknight (WA1): Wishes I voted off of ACF, but Jack and Cecilia don't like that and Rudy curses democracy. Otherwise, see Super except with more respect for his damage, still doesn't work wonderfully.
11. Argilla (DDS): Healing off of that durability doesn't work too well, and none of her status is turn 1.
12. Vesper (SO2): Just kinda bad. Even the stat topic doesn't make him look good and I had higher levels + Mind Absorber liked to whiff.

Light is smelly.
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2010, 02:02:22 AM »
Godlike:

1 - Lady (SH3)
2 - Charlton (XF)
3 - Patriarch (XS2)
4 - Berle (SO2)
5 - Zack Fair (FF7:CC)
6 - Cyril (SO2)
7 - Albedo (XSs)

Heavy:

1) Wugui (SH1)
2 ) Saki Inugami (SH2)
3) Berserk (WA1)
4) Serge (CC)
5) Edge Eblan (FF4)
6) Alicia (VP2)
7) Adel (FF8)

Middle:

1) Nanaki (FF7)
2) Killey (Suikos)
3) Blanca (SH2)
4) Nelis (S5)
5) Rudy Roughknight (WA1)
6)Vesper (SO2)
7)Kraken (FF1)

Light:

1) Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
2) Lucia (SH2)
3) Kid (CC)
4) Cyan Garamonde (FF6)
5) Funguy (CC)
6) Nara/Meena (DQ4)
 
 
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2010, 02:08:36 PM »
Godlike:
1. Jenna - Form-chain fun
2. Berle - Invincibility fun...thinking on it, Berle is probably Bluelike...
3. Dhaos - Crazy defenses and excellent damage
4. Lady - Still good
5. Cyril - WORD OF DEATH Spam and insanely awesome durability and elemental resistances and rarely defended against natural element
6. Albedo - AlbedoAll is much better than this, but the XS2 form is pretty brutal
7. Persephone - Wishes she had her Greek mythos form
8. Patriarch - Hot old priests always do well
9. 'Zenon' - Assuming this is the D2 main game final boss
10. Charlton - Overall strong
11. False Althena - Horrible defense rapes her here.
12. Zack - Might very well be higher than this - overall excellent in all regards
13. Bleu - BleuAll is a bit better than this...probably not enough to get higher.
14. Rashidi - Bleh. 
15. Riou - Can heal.
16. Emily - Is not a Godlike
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 10:44:39 PM »
This is on hold for a bit, but will be back.
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2010, 12:09:22 AM »
Godlike:
1. Lady
2. FA- Speed, durability, damage. Wallability costs her 1.
3. Persephone- ITD Pain Inducer
4. Zenon-Passable all arounder
5. Jenna
6. Dhaos
7. Berle
8. Patriarch
9. Charlton
10. Deis
11. Cyril
12. Riou
13. Emily- Still works as a low Godlike to me
14. Rashidi
15. Albedo

Heavy:
1. Barbarossa- Yeah, he’s a Godlike to me.
2. Velna- Wugui remixed/+
3. Lassic
4. Wugui
5. Fei- The wallability hurts
6. Berserk
7. Adel- Lot of respect here
8. Saki
9. Edge
10. Ike
11. Serge
12. Alicia- Outclassed here
13. Mithos
14. Athos
15. Daos- Slow 3HKO
16. Kanon- PC Kanon

Middle
1. Guy
2. Bruiser
3. Gruga- Invincible+Above average speed+2HKO
4. Nelis- Damage! S5 equips!
5. Killey- See above, less slightly less damage
6. Nanaki- Hmm, great if he gets an L2. Not bad otherwise (Averagish damage, magic backup. Could go to 4)
7. Hippropresser- Weird spoiler type, maybe overrating here.
8. Hero- At least he can’t be stalled out like Blanca
9. Blanca- If Colorful Comb worked though….
10. Vesper- Can grab some spoilers
11. Argilla- She’s…okay.
12. Rudy- Borderline 2HKO off bad speed. Laughs at defense
13. Kraken- Uhh…spoils some physicallers (But not Rudy!)
14. Jill- Non-Doubling, non-evasive, non 2HKOing FE slugger. Eeeeeh.

Light
1. Estella- Slightly below average speed 90-95% damage or fast 65% damage. Could switch due to being more spoilable…maybe.
2. Aisha- Hmm, better against healers than Estella, but just doesn’t have the damage punch
3. Lunn- Middle/headache
4. Mallow- Covers his bases well. Physical/magic/healing, and all of it decent
5. Vitali- Durable quirky game! Hates other healers.
6. Collete- Damaging and some nice resists
7. Frank
8. Funguy- Durable, fast, can get some 2HKOs.
9. Kid- Uh, general what to Kid beating out Funguy in most of these lists. She has…1 more stamina. He has 10% more damage and more durability.
10. Cyan
11. Lucia- Solid buffing game. This is a really good field.
12. Randi- Averagish
13. Asch
14. Lucia (EBC)- Eh…
15. Nara- HP is pure trash
« Last Edit: April 29, 2010, 07:42:34 AM by Dhyerwolf »
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2010, 06:17:02 PM »
Godlike:

Multi-champ:
1) Lady (SH3)

Champ:
2) Jenna Angel (DDS)
3) False Althena (Lunar:EBC)

Mediocre:
4) Zenon (Dis2)
5) Berle (SO2)
6) Rashidi (OB)

Bad:
7) Patriarch (XS2)
8) Cyril (SO2)
9) Deis (BoFs)
10) Emily (S3)

Belongs in heavy:
11) Albedo (XSs)
12) Riou (S2)


Heavy:

Belongs in godlike:
1) Daos (Lufia 2)

Very good:
2) Lassic (PS4)
3) Fei Fong Wong (XG)

Pretty good:
4) Velna (LoL2)
5) Alicia (VP2)
6) Barbarossa (VP1)
7) Saki Inugami (SH2)
8) Wugui (SH1)
9) Ike (FE9)
10) Adel (FF8)
11) Athos (FE7)
12) Serge (CC)

Mediocre:
13) Mithos Yggdrasil (ToS)
14) Edge Eblan (FF4)

Middle:

Belongs in heavy:
1) Guy (FE7)

Very good:
2) Nelis (S5)
3) Killey (Suikos)
4) Vesper (SO2)
5) Kraken (FF1)

Pretty good:
6) Nanaki (FF7)
7) Hippopressor (MMXCM)
8) Jill Fizzart (FE9)

Mediocre:
9) Gruga (AtLC)
10) Rudy Roughknight (WA1)
11) Blanca (SH2)

Bad:
12) Argilla (DDS)

Light:

Belongs in middle:
1) Aisha Knudel (OB)

Very good:
2) Colette Brunell (ToS)
3) Lunn (Lunar:EBC)
4) Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
5) Vitali (SN)
6) Estella (S3)
7) Mallow (SMRPG)

Pretty good:
8) Funguy (CC)
9) Kid (CC)

Mediocre:
10) Randi (SoM)
11) Rennac (FE8)

Bad:
12) Cyan Garamonde (FF6)
13) Lucia (EBC)
14) Nara/Meena (DQ4)

Puny:
15) Lucia (SH2)
16) Asch (TotA)

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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2010, 07:08:11 PM »
Godlike:

1. Jenna Angel (DDS)
2. Lady (SH3)
3. False Althena (Lunar:EBC)
4. Persephone (WA5)
5. Zenon (Dis2)
6. Berle (SO2)
7. Zack Fair (FF7:CC)
8. Dhaos (ToP)
9. Patriarch (XS2)
10. Deis (BoFs)
11. Riou (S2)
12. Charlton (XF)
13. Albedo (XSs)
14. Emily (S3)
15. Cyril (SO2)

Heavy:

1. Barbarossa (VP1)
2. Daos (Lufia 2)
3. Lassic (PS4)
4. Wugui (SH1)
5. Berserk (WA1)
6. Fei Fong Wong (XG)
7. Athos (FE7)
8. Saki Inugami (SH2)
9. Serge (CC)
10. Ike (FE9)
11. Mithos Yggdrasil (ToS)
12. Alicia (VP2)
13. Edge Eblan (FF4)
14. Adel (FF8)
15. Kanon (WA2)

Middle:

1. Nightburn Auckland (WA5)
2. Killey (Suikos)
3. Guy (FE7)
4. Hippopressor (MMXCM)
5. Nelis (S5)
6. Jill Fizzart (FE9)
7. Rudy Roughknight (WA1)
8. Vesper (SO2)
9. Nanaki (FF7)
10. Argilla (DDS)
11. Blanca (SH2)
12. Kraken (FF1)

Light:

1. Estella (S3)
2. Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
3. Mallow (SMRPG)
4. Lunn (Lunar:EBC)
5. Kid (CC)
6. Funguy (CC)
7. Rennac (FE8)
8. Lucia (EBC)
9. Vitali (SN)
10. Lucia (SH2)
11. Colette Brunell (ToS)
12. Nara/Meena (DQ4)
13. Cyan Garamonde (FF6)
14. Asch (TotA)
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2010, 11:41:33 PM »
This is open again. I need more votes/finished pools though!
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2010, 02:00:56 AM »
Godlike:  (Weak ass Godlike field, although I'm betting the top 2-3 are going to be people I can't vote on.)

1. False Althena (Lunar:EBC)- Sick damage, can be spoiled... but doesn't matter vs this field.
2. Rashidi (OB)- Crazy sick speed.  (I see OB ave speed as 2 actions, giving Rashidi 300% speed), but the durability... oh the durability.
3. Albedo (XSs)- XS1 only.
4. Berle (SO2)- Has a trick, not much else
5. Zenon (Dis2)- Kinda textbook Godlike.  Durability and solid damage, but nothing on an amazing scale.

Drop to borderline Godlikes
6. Deis (BoFs)- Great PC, but not at a competitive godlike level
7. Emily (S3)- Good PC, but not at a competitive godlike level
8. Riou (S2)- As bad as Godlikes can get
9. Cyril (SO2)- Not a Godlike

Heavy:


1. Wugui (SH1)- Yeah status + immunity is good in heavy.
2. Athos (FE7) - Almost magic immune, lifeleech, solid damage.
3. Fei Fong Wong (XG) - Some smash damage gets you this high
4. Edge Eblan (FF4) - Quick status... works in Heavy
5. Barbarossa (VP1) - Textbook heavy, decent durability, decent damage, nothing great.
6. Saki Inugami (SH2) - Dies too quick, kills too slow, and crappyish status
7. Serge (CC) - is Serge
8. Adel (FF8) - LOL FF8 boss durability

Middle: (Forget if you need 6 or 7 to vote, doing it anyway!)

1. Guy (FE7) - FE Swordmasters always seem to fall at that middle/heavy threshold.
2. Kraken (FF1) - RELEASE THE KRAKEN.  2HKO damage and good durability is okay in Middle.
3. Vesper (SO2) - Not a great middle, but above average... works for third out of these 6.
4. Nanaki (FF7) - Limits + some speed
5. Hero (Lufia 1) - Slow, not great at anything
6. Blanca (SH2) - Fail



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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2010, 06:26:19 PM »
Godlike:

1. False Althena (Lunar:EBC)
2. Dhaos (ToP)
3. Berle (SO2)
4. Deis (BoFs)
5. Riou (S2)
6. Cyril (SO2)

Heavy:

1. Daos (Lufia 2) - L3 form
2. Fei Fong Wong (XG) - Yamikei smash
3. Serge (CC) - Mastermune smash
4. Lassic (PS4) - Decent High Heavy boss.
5. Barbarossa (VP1) - Wallable, not really durable, but still fairly decent.
6. Kanon (WA2) - Boss form.
7. Athos (FE7) - Works.
8. Edge Eblan (FF4) - Mostly spoils.
9. Mithos Yggdrasil (ToS) - Mithos respect not found.
10. Berserk (WA1) - WA1o

Middle:

1. Guy (FE7) - Typical FE swordmaster.  Upgrade.
2. Brusier Khang (ToD) - Smash
3. Nanaki (FF7) - The package works.
4. Gruga (AtLC) - Invincible works.
5. Killey (Suikos) - Decent Suikomage
6. Hero (Lufia 1) - Slugfests well enough.
7. Duster (Mother 3) - Has tricks, at least.
8. Rudy Roughknight (WA1) - Come back when you get a skillset.
9. Vesper (SO2) - Wiseman scrub
10. Kraken (FF1) - DoS Kraken

Light:
1. Colette Brunell (ToS) - Solid Light, sadly.
2. Kid (CC) - Solid Light.
3. Mallow (SMRPG) - Solid Light.
4. Funguy (CC) - Eh
5. Cyan Garamonde (FF6) - Eh
6. Lunn (Lunar:EBC) - I remember the duel being pretty lulzy, so...
7. Nara/Meena (DQ4) - Remake form.  Sucks but not bottom of the barrel.
8. Rennac (FE8) - Bad
9. Randi (SoM) - Worse
10. Lucia (EBC) - Even without penalizing her for randoAI she's awful

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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2010, 02:43:48 AM »
1. Zack Fair (FF7:CC) - Okay I haven't finished CC yet but C&P from stat topic:
Genji Shield: Immunes All status (including Instant Death), Absorbs all elements, Auto Barrier, Auto MBarrier
...I think I have to give credit for Auto Barrier and Auto MBarrier, so Zack has functionally 2x PCHP.  That alone + full-healing makes him better than Alucard, plus he hits a ton of elements himself, has status, etc.  Only thing against him is that his spells can be disrupted?  Then again it looks like some of his other gear gives Auto-Endure, which might help with that.  Brutal.  (Would have been good fun for NR, not gonna fly in the DL though.)
2. Lady (SH3)
--drop--
3. False Althena (Lunar:EBC)
--drop--
4. Albedo (XSs) - His XS2 form is a good spoiler, and while his XS1 form is not good it probably wins him the occasional weird victory thanks to the MP-0 move.
5. Patriarch (XS2) - Definitely give him the UMN Phase Transfer Cannon and the formchain both, but his damage is ultimately kinda bad.
6. Deis (BoFs) - Speedy status and damage.
7. Cyril (SO2)
8. Riou (S2)
9. Berle (SO2)
10. Emily (S3)
-- Entering High Middle --
11. Rashidi (OB)
12. Charlton (XF) - These two are the same dueler to me.  Horrible horrible HP in the .40 - .50 PCHP range, great speed and great offense yet the offense doesn't rise to a OHKO often enough.  Rashidi beats Charlton because for those unfortunate enough not to OHKO him he can Life Drain back up, while Charlton's draining is far less impressive.

Heavy:

1. Mithos Yggdrasil (ToS) - Form-change, durability, can healer-bust by holding out 'till a Lucky Judgment.
2. Wugui (SH1)
--drop--
3. Kanon (WA2)
4. Athos (FE7)
5. Ike (FE9)
6. Alicia (VP2)
7. Serge (CC)
8. Fei Fong Wong (XG) - No Yamikei.
9. Daos (Lufia 2) - No focus hype.
10. Saki Inugami (SH2)
11. Barbarossa (VP1)
12. Berserk (WA1)
13. Edge Eblan (FF4)
14. Adel (FF8) - The humiliation of living and dying off Rinoa hype.  Spoils all-MT characters, and forced rando-targeting (Beats Sabin?!  ...actually yes probably.), but awful outside of that.


Light:
1. Estella (S3)
2. Aisha Knudel (OB)
3. Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
4. Cyan Garamonde (FF6) - I'm more generous than the stat topic about Cyan's charge times.  The length of time for an FF6 character to act is the charge bar time + the time spent waiting in line to actually go.  I prefer to use the in-game 4 person party avg. for the second variable, which makes the average turn take longer, which thus reduces Cyan's charge times relatively.  So it's not quite so unreasonable to survive to pull off a lvl. 8.
5. Asch (TotA)
6. Randi (SoM)
7. Rennac (FE8)
8. Colette Brunell (ToS)
9. Lunn (Lunar:EBC)
10. Kid (CC)
11. Lucia (SH2)
12. Nara/Meena (DQ4)
13. Lucia (EBC) - Yeah I think I hold her to AI.  Though her damage is better than the stat topic suggests, because she leaves before the damage really spikes (ignoring Zophar 3).

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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2010, 03:43:36 PM »
Godlike:

1. Lady (SH3) - The top echelon belongs to smash. Lady's cannoning is one of the scariest things in the DL, and she even has solid durability, speed -and- an auto-dispel to crush the hopes of silly buffers all around the world. Oh, and she overkills both defenses. Just because she can.
2. Jenna Angel (DDS) - Bhairava smash a lot of stuff. Woohoo HP buffers. On the other hand, being purely physical and evadable isn't that cool.
3. False Althena (Lunar:EBC) - And that's where the top-tier stops. False Althena in EBO is pretty durable, fast and the status/MP-busting game is crazy good (Confuse? Paralysis? All of them accurate? That's good stuff, especially since she doesn't OHKO average MP from my memory). And then, you realize she has a strong 2HKO off non-elemental magic. Yeah, respectable package.
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4. Dhaos (ToP) - The spoiling is very nasty. Overkill physical damage or non-elemental magic him or die. Of course, doesn't save him from the Cecilias of the world, given the lacking pressure game for Godlike, but so much spoiling.  
5. Patriarch (XS2) - I... guess? I have troubles pinning down exactly how well Patriarch pans out, given his lacking offense without Boost and the physical vulnerability - well, and getting single-handedly owned by Mist Dragon. On the other hand, the status is good, the speed ain't bad and the HP's kinda godly once you factor in the HP buffer. Also think a single boost gauge is enough for him to manage a KO to average, so he isn't that poorly off for long-term offense. Yay airing targets.
6. Berle (SO2) - The offense doesn't ever impress me. Evadable 4HKO physical just kinda sucks even in Light, let alone in Godlike. ON THE OTHER HAND, the barrier is good. I don't let him keep it up indefinitely, but it works well off the speed.
7. Deis (BoFs) - Um, wow, Deis doesn't look that bad in this pool. Non-elemental magical 2HKO just works (remember her Comet spell? She uses -that- when BoltX gets resisted) off that speed along with elemental resistances and solid durability.
8. Rashidi (OB) - Frail as hell. He's a lot like a WA4 boss, although less frail (not by much). The offense's brutal off the speed, but in Godlike he's often getting eaten out.
9. Cyril (SO2) - Um, high 2HKO that's unevadable I guess? And elemental resistances? Gets him above the lowest end.
10. Riou (S2) - One of the strongest one-shots around. Too bad about the elemental wallability and zero status resistance measures besides modest MDef and evade.
11. Emily (S3) - Smash is cool, but it's of the wrong type. Emily also doesn't like the mage-heavy nature of the division.
12. Albedo (XSs) - Trash. Limit PC-killing off Adachi-level HP and little in the way of relevant damage type spoiling just doesn't work in Godlike. And to think this form is better than XS2's in the DL.

Rest later, I guess.

Heavy (a.k.a. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST):

1. Barbarossa (VP1) - Yeah, feel like I have no reason to disallow Calamity Blast spamming. The durability ain't that great, sure, and the wallability is problematic, but that's a lot of overkill.
2. Lassic (PS4) - Another strong slugger. Lack of fatal status and OHKO damage is a bitch, but the offense and durability work.
3. Daos (Lufia 2) - A weird spin on Lassic that has a lot less physical durability. Not as good, but still very strong. Also, so wrong.
4. Velna (LoL2) -
5. Kanon (WA2) - Yeeeeeeeah. ITE near-OHKO damage off that speed? The PC-level durability doesn't really hurt that much.
6. Berserk (WA1) - Kanon with actual OHKO damage, but less speed and a painful weakness to Thunder. The elemental resistances help.
7. Athos (FE7) - Stat god with parasitic healing, ITD damage and near-magic immunity? Sure.
8. Fei Fong Wong (XG) - OHKO damage and XG blockers! But it's evadable and elementally wallable. Man, it's scary when well over half the pool borders on Godlike.
9. Wugui (SH1) - Immune ID and have decent physicals or die! That's not that hard to fulfill, but the spoiling game's still effective.
10. Edge Eblan (FF4) - Speed+physical spoiling of sort+status is pretty okay.
11. Serge (CC) - Not really that impressed. Lawfer-like, but Lawfer has better stats and equipment.
12. Alicia (VP2) - Not bad, but no cream of the crop. The healing game is solid off VP2 equips and blockers, but she has no pressure.
13. Adel (FF8) - Now she kinda sucks. Frail, slow and only 2HKOs to me. That's not great Heavy material, and honestly she sorta reminds me of Nergal, only without the part where Dark immunity makes her completely fail.

Middle:
1. Guy (FE7) - The typical FE package. Evade, speed, criticals as a topping... he just works.
2. Nanaki (FF7) - Sure, I'll buy the hype.
3. Nelis (S5) - Excellent magical slugging off good magical durability, subpar but not painful physical durability, brilliant equipment and solid speed. Seriously, Nelis heal-locks with her physical and has plenty of forms to 2HKO - heck, Final Flame is like 90% PC HP. If you don't wall fire, that damage's to be feared. Of course, fire walling is a concern, but she's more than able to spoil elemental reliance herself.
4. Bruiser Khang (ToD) - ITE, insanely spammable high 2HKO off solid stats = Heavy? Sure. Worse than Nelis in practice to due to his best damage being more wallable than theirs (Lightning = worst DL element to have, and he can't make it non-elemental by switching weapons: it's a property of Ballistic's), and they have S5 equip madness while ToD equips are complete lol. She's also faster. Ignoring evade almost makes up for that, though. And I guess he 3HKOs when Thunder's walled, while Nelis has a mighty 6HKO or something.
5. Killey (S5) - Nelis trading a wee bit more damage, better equips and a lot of pdur for... better speed and a 3HKO physical. Feels like it's a losing trade, but still a good package that fears many of the same things.
6. Hippopressor (MMXCM) - Hey, that's a lot of spoiling. Weird guy, but he does well.
7. Rudy Roughknight (WA1) - I allow ACF! Which... actually helps, but not that much and this is a strong pool. Near-OHKO that turns into OHKO once you have some FP is pretty cool. He's rather slow in his big damage turns, though, and the durability isn't awesome. Feels a lot like... Clive, really.
8. Hero (Lufia 1) - He... heals and hits things off solid stats. Um okay.
9. Gruga (AtLC) - I guess. Invincible is solid, but his resources are just -too- limited for him to use it well at all. He fears healers with decent defense buffs with all his might, and also fears healers who 3HKO him - which isn't terribly hard with that mdur.
10. Kraken (FF1) - Low 2HKO off good pdur and middling speed. Okay.
11. Argilla (DDS) - Yeah, the physical durability just really sucks. Argilla wishes she had turn one status - as is, she's more of a mage spoiler than anything else.
12. Vesper (SO2) - Eeeeeeeeeeeeew.

Light:

Aisha Knudel (OB)
Lunn (Lunar:EBC)
Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
Kid (CC)
Asch (TotA)
Estella (S3)
Vitali (SN)
Lucia (EBC)
Lucia (SH2)
Cyan Garamonde (FF6)
Mallow (SMRPG)
Rennac (FE8)
Randi (SoM)
Funguy (CC)
Nara/Meena (DQ4)
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2010, 07:27:55 PM »
Updating this tomorrow, hopefully. Get your votes in now and finish your lists!
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2010, 08:57:02 PM »
Dhyer: You've got two Patriarches listed in Godlike.
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2010, 11:05:08 AM »
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Re: List Topic Round 1 Week 6- Die, Frank!
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 06:32:48 PM »
Working on it now.
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