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Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« on: February 15, 2010, 01:38:07 AM »
The next character I really want to use has a couple of new voters coming in the very near future, so until then... let's see how hot shit this flavor of the month tournament board superstar really is!

Sulphur vs. Kuja
Sulphur vs. Sephiroth
Sulphur vs. Fou-Lu
Sulphur vs. Ghaleon
Sulphur vs. Orlandu
Sulphur vs. Ash Lambert
Sulphur vs. Albedo
Sulphur vs. Melfice
Sulphur vs. Myria
Sulphur vs. Ryu3
Sulphur vs. Ryu4
Sulphur vs. Yuna
Sulphur vs. Piastol
Sulphur vs. Kefka
Sulphur vs. Zophar
Sulphur vs. Luca Blight
Sulphur vs. Yuri Hyuga
Sulphur vs. Profound Darkness
Sulphur vs. Jade
Sulphur vs. Emelious
Sulphur vs. Jenna Angel
Sulphur vs. Lady
Sulphur vs. Empyrea
Sulphur vs. Cloud of Darkness
Sulphur vs. Heat
Sulphur vs. False Althena
Sulphur vs. Isolde

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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 02:23:53 AM »
Warning: High respect for PB's final boss. Very high.

Sulphur vs. Kuja: Splat
Sulphur vs. Sephiroth: Splat
Sulphur vs. Fou-Lu: I... Even quartered his overkill is gratuitous.
Sulphur vs. Ghaleon: Splat
Sulphur vs. Orlandu: Tempted to think of Orlandu going first but eh. Splat
Sulphur vs. Ash Lambert: Sulphur stats. He isn't missing.
Sulphur vs. Albedo: Splat
Sulphur vs. Melfice: Wasn't Melfice's thing just flat out perfect evade? Yeah.
Sulphur vs. Myria: Myria 3 can't do this.
Sulphur vs. Ryu3: Splat
Sulphur vs. Ryu4: Splat
Sulphur vs. Yuna: Sulphur stat accuracy.
Sulphur vs. Piastol: Unsure. I'll lean this way for now. He isn't that durable and she is initiative-level fast.
Sulphur vs. Kefka: Yep.
Sulphur vs. Zophar: Might just double FS. Might OHKO. Probably does actually!
Sulphur vs. Luca Blight: Splat
Sulphur vs. Yuri Hyuga: Splat
Sulphur vs. Profound Darkness: Just goes through the forms one right after the other.
Sulphur vs. Jade: Hmm. Splat
Sulphur vs. Emelious: Emo needed a turn to start up the evade? Yeah.
Sulphur vs. Jenna Angel: Spoiling!
Sulphur vs. Lady: Splat.
Sulphur vs. Empyrea: More splat.
Sulphur vs. False Althena: Goes first.
Sulphur vs. Isolde: Splat

Yeah.

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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 02:32:02 AM »
Sulphur wins all the matches I can vote on.  Honestly, why I can absolutely see throwing it out, I'm inclined to let Sulphur keep his invincibility rocks even in the normal DL, which really puts him over the top.  Not sure I see Melfice or Emelious evade hype helping here.  Zophar and Piastol are good matches and that's about it.  Maybe Jade wins too if you ignore the invincibility rocks?  ...I think he does, actually, tanks and zaps.  But I do give Sulphur his initial invincibility so it doesn't help.

Sulphur vs. Kuja
Sulphur vs. Sephiroth
Sulphur vs. Fou-Lu
Sulphur vs. Ghaleon
Sulphur vs. Orlandu
Sulphur vs. Albedo
Sulphur vs. Melfice
Sulphur vs. Myria
Sulphur vs. Ryu4
Sulphur vs. Yuna
Sulphur vs. Piastol
Sulphur vs. Kefka
Sulphur vs. Zophar
Sulphur vs. Luca Blight
Sulphur vs. Yuri Hyuga
Sulphur vs. Jade
Sulphur vs. Emelious
Sulphur vs. Lady
Sulphur vs. Empyrea
Sulphur vs. Cloud of Darkness
Sulphur vs. False Althena

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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 08:21:09 PM »
Sulphur vs. Kuja- This is about as close as it sounds like.
Sulphur vs. Sephiroth
Sulphur vs. Fou-Lu- Terminate laughs at defenses and Fou-Lu can't OHKO Sulphur. He needs to do so.
Sulphur vs. Ghaleon- I'm not sure Ghaleon gets a turn.
Sulphur vs. Orlandu
Sulphur vs. Ash Lambert
Sulphur vs. Albedo
Sulphur vs. Melfice- I don't think Melfice even 2HKOs Sulphur. Even if he did, he's outsped and Sulphur's backup magic is nasty.
Sulphur vs. Myria- Myria 3 is way outgunned.
Sulphur vs. Ryu3
Sulphur vs. Ryu4
Sulphur vs. Yuna
Sulphur vs. Piastol
Sulphur vs. Kefka
Sulphur vs. Zophar
Sulphur vs. Luca Blight- Luca gets a turn and can't do enough to slow down Sulphur.
Sulphur vs. Yuri Hyuga
Sulphur vs. Profound Darkness- PD doesn't have the durability for this offhand.
Sulphur vs. Jade- Jade's eating at least three Terminates. Bye!
Sulphur vs. Emelious
Sulphur vs. Jenna Angel- OHKO fest ahoy.
Sulphur vs. Lady- Lady OHKOs him in her sleep but doesn't get a turn.
Sulphur vs. Empyrea
Sulphur vs. Heat
Sulphur vs. False Althena
Sulphur vs. Isolde

Sulphur is a textbook Bluelike.
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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 04:28:09 AM »
Sulphur vs. Kuja
Sulphur vs. Sephiroth
Sulphur vs. Fou-Lu - Puts up a respectable showing, but Sulphur's a tad better, even though I scale him against a whole army of Phantoms.
Sulphur vs. Ghaleon - Ghaleon gets a turn, but it's not enough.
Sulphur vs. Orlandu
Sulphur vs. Ash Lambert - well, if Sulphur didn't OHKO, this might be a match, but.
Sulphur vs. Albedo
Sulphur vs. Melfice - Spoiled.
Sulphur vs. Myria - Similar, but faces a smaller army.
Sulphur vs. Ryu3
Sulphur vs. Ryu4
Sulphur vs. Yuna - Yuna gets a turn, it's a fight from there, but I'm leaning this way. Sulphur accuracy is good, but so is Yuna evade. Close-ish. Could go either way.
Sulphur vs. Piastol - Spoiled.
Sulphur vs. Kefka
Sulphur vs. Zophar - Kneejerk.
Sulphur vs. Luca Blight
Sulphur vs. Yuri Hyuga
Sulphur vs. Profound Darkness - Form chain buffering, I'm thinking.
Sulphur vs. Jade - I tend to see Sulphur as about the same level as BoF/Lunar bosses.
Sulphur vs. Emelious - Evasive enough and not OHKO'd.
Sulphur vs. Jenna Angel - Form chain buffering.
Sulphur vs. Lady - Not sure.
Sulphur vs. Empyrea
Sulphur vs. Cloud of Darkness - Not sure.
Sulphur vs. Heat
Sulphur vs. False Althena
Sulphur vs. Isolde - Not sure.

My durability respect for Lady, CoD, and Isolde is kinda up in the air at the moment. Will vote when I feel like doing math.

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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010, 04:40:49 AM »
Only bothering to bold matches Sulphur loses. This being said, a few more than others, due to taking MC/Tal boss interps nowadays, which means... Sulphur faces 8 PCs? Ow.


Sulphur vs. Kuja
Sulphur vs. Sephiroth
Sulphur vs. Fou-Lu
Sulphur vs. Ghaleon
Sulphur vs. Orlandu - Ouch. Though there's an argument if you see Sulphur hitting 2-3 a blast, they are effectively ST which makes nailing the crystals hard to do. Could be convinced otherwise.
Sulphur vs. Melfice
Sulphur vs. Myria - Myria1 gets outgunned (Sulphur gets the first turn and Terminate takes enough HP off), Myria3... also outslugged I think. Too much of a stat advantage.
Sulphur vs. Ryu3 - Can't nuke enough before dragons pop up. Dragons are too much for Sulphur to deal with.
Sulphur vs. Ryu4 - See above. Man, Sulphur isn't fond of this interp so much.
Sulphur vs. Yuna - So! Aeonless Yuna vs. boss. This... this gets painful, the buffing/smacking/healing chaining. Don't think Sulphur endures it well enough.
Sulphur vs. Kefka
Sulphur vs. Zophar
Sulphur vs. Yuri Hyuga - Should manage this?
Sulphur vs. Profound Darkness
Sulphur vs. Jade
Sulphur vs. Jenna Angel - First form 2 wipes the crystals, then Debilitate, then Bhairava, then final form slowly outslugs because Sulphur has decent fits against it. Huh.
Sulphur vs. Lady
Sulphur vs. Empyrea
Sulphur vs. Cloud of Darkness
Sulphur vs. Heat
Sulphur vs. False Althena - Cute, but less respect for FA cinches for Sulphur.
Sulphur vs. Isolde

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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2010, 05:05:57 AM »
Sulphur vs. Kuja
Sulphur vs. Sephiroth
Sulphur vs. Fou-Lu
Sulphur vs. Ghaleon
Sulphur vs. Orlandu
Sulphur vs. Ash Lambert
Sulphur vs. Albedo
Sulphur vs. Melfice - See Super, basically. I don't think the evade quite saves him.
Sulphur vs. Myria
Sulphur vs. Ryu3
Sulphur vs. Ryu4
Sulphur vs. Yuna - I'm unsure here. I think Yuna may see a turn, and the Aeon Parade can handle Sulphur.
Sulphur vs. Piastol - Kneejerk, mostly. I definately see her going first and I think that's enough.
Sulphur vs. Kefka
Sulphur vs. Zophar
Sulphur vs. Luca Blight
Sulphur vs. Yuri Hyuga
Sulphur vs. Profound Darkness
Sulphur vs. Jade - Another kneejerk, this one in Sulphur's favor. I think he gets enough turns to do this.
Sulphur vs. Emelious
Sulphur vs. Jenna Angel - Spoiling, yeah.
Sulphur vs. Lady
Sulphur vs. Empyrea
Sulphur vs. Cloud of Darkness
Sulphur vs. Heat
Sulphur vs. False Althena
Sulphur vs. Isolde
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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2010, 05:37:37 AM »
If Sulhpur overkills someone enough, don't they become unrevivable?

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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2010, 06:03:28 AM »
If Sulhpur overkills someone enough, don't they become unrevivable?

IIRC you have to attack the dead body for that.

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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2010, 06:36:29 AM »
Attacking the dead body will do it too, but if it's a big enough overkill outright that will also work; basically it's something like once a phantom reaches negative Max HP (just a guess) they disintegrate.  Attacks on dead phantoms can push them towards this but if it's not enough damage they'll just stay dead, but with more negative HP.  My recollection is that Sulphur's Omega stuff isn't good enough for the insta-overkill but Terminate generally is.

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Re: Invading the contient of champions #3: Sulphur
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2010, 05:19:01 AM »
Putting this tourney in suspended animation for some time.