Rank Characters based on In Game Use: Reboot!

[DjinnAndTonic]

Secret of Mana:
Randi: 5 - Vague recollection, but this feels right.
Purim: 8.5 - SoM mage, but dies less.
Popoi: 8 - SoM mage

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 7 - Above average, and great availability, of course. Good candidate for your early common support symbols.
Sophia Esteed: 3 - Pretty useless.
Peppita Rosetti: 8 - Dances are broken when maxed out. Good otherwise, too, but not around during the parts of the game I wanted someone like her.
Cliff Fittir: 9 - Always seemed to be the best choice until very very late in the game.
Nel Zelpher: 7 - Awesome at first, but trails off in usefulness. Early healing is great.
Roger S. Huxley: 2 - How do you make an ARPG melee character bad? Yup.
Maria Traydor: 8 - Awesome! ...sometimes. Has times where she lags. Also gotten a little late.
Albel Nox: 6 - Speed! Some status! Takes forever to get going.
Adray Lasbard: 3 - Pretty useless.
Mirage Koas: 6 - Redundant, late-joining PC?

Chrono Cross Blue Innates:
Leena: 6.5 - Joins early, solid physical/magical build. Has one of the only triple techs in the game and it actually does notable damage. Being Blue innate makes her a good candidate for that early summon you get. Loses a point for her final tech being easily missable. (You have to choose the right dialogue options at the very beginning of the game?!)
Nikki: 6.5 - Who I would use for my Blue innate if I didn't get Leena. Double tech with Miki is pretty serviceable too. Best of the Manor splitpaths.
Pierre: 2 - Why?
Korcha: 6 - Blue innate, so he can work as a mage or a summon candidate if you missed any of the others. Good for Kid path.
Irenes: 3 - Has durability issues IIRC. Weird element grid, too.
Fargo: 8 - Holy crap a notable CC character. Only one who can steal the Elemental Plates, which is a must for frue game-breaking~
Marcy: 5 - Not bad, but kind of late and redundant.
Orhla: 7 - Late joiner, but the stats are actually worthwhile. Good techs too.
Draggy: 4.5 - Getting his final tech was always troublesome, but he was decent enough.

[Clear Tranquil]

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 7.5/10 - Side Kick! Side Kick! Is that all you've got!? Side Kick! Oh wait Aiiir Raid! Specialist play with infinity juggling/Divine Blade is interesting but not that suited to three man teams.
Sophia Esteed: 5.5/10 - Thunder Flare! Explosion! Thunder Flare!
Peppita Rosetti: 8.5/10 - Power Dance! Counter hax, Faerie Friend! Oh maiden of war fly with light and flame! Dream Hammer! Perhaps a bit high but Power Dance and Dream Hammer really are really broke.
Cliff Fittir: 9.5/10 - Hammer of MIGHT!, Aerial Assault! Fists of Fury! Maax Shockwave! Whichs takes care of his issue of lacking any real range before.
Nel Zelpher: 8/10 - Healing, Whirlwind! Ice Daggers! Whirlwind! Unlike Pep though often runs into major elemental resistances on bosses, especially post game =/
Roger S. Huxley: 6/10 - Charge, Charge, Charge!
Maria Traydor: 10/10 - Scatter Beams! Aiming Device! Scatter Beams! Dust to dust, ashes to ashes! Energy Burst!
Albel Nox: 7.5/10 - Aura Wall! Double Slash of Fury!
Adray Lasbard: 5.5/10
Mirage Koas: 6.5/10 - Crescent Locus! Triple Kick! Crescent Locus!


Chrono Cross Blue Innates:
Leena: 6.5/10
Nikki: Abstain
Pierre: 4.5/10
Korcha: 4/10
Irenes: 5/10
Fargo: 6/10
Marcy: 6/10
Orhla: Abstain
Draggy: Abstain

[Anthony Edward Stark]

Jesus christ, Vampiric Flash, people. You run in, you hit the strong version, everything dies.

[Luther Lansfeld]

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 6/10
Sophia Esteed: 1/10
Peppita Rosetti: 3/10
Cliff Fittir: 7/10
Nel Zelpher: 8/10
Roger S. Huxley: 2/10
Maria Traydor: 8/10.
Albel Nox: 4/10
Adray Lasbard:
Mirage Koas:

Not rating CC.

[Clear Tranquil]

Vampiric Flash's dph isn't as impressive of that of other AoE skills and the draining doesn't prevent Albel from getting slaughtered against certain post game bosses especially on 4D mode. Mass Boots of Prowess will help there to a certain extent on the earlier difficulty modes but yeah. I've never found Albel's damage out put to be that impressive during the story either to be honest unless he's jacked up on Orichalcum and/or Power Dance. Even then Cliff/Maria/Power Dance/Whirlwind Nel hold the advantage and they just destroy things even without Ori =/

Edit: Screw it, he at least deserves the same score as Fayt >_> Double Slash of Fury is great for post game if you have magic fingers, I mean I can't use it skillfully to save myself but kudos to those who can~

[Grefter]

A character's skill falling out in the post game on replay only difficulties is not going to really dent plenty of people's ratings of a character's in game use, just saying.

[Clear Tranquil]

Well yeah that's the thing though Vampiric Flash or indeed Albel's damage isn't even all that impressive in general during story mode at least not without Item Creation. One only needs to look at Albel's DL damage to see that. Sure I can jack Albel up on Ori and blow the game apart but it's possible to do that with every skill and character so it's kind of hard to see where to draw the line there. Even the weakest skills or the lowest levelled characters destroy everything with Ori. So I prefer to look at the base damage modifiers of skills and things without taking Ori into account but that's just the way I do things >_> I've seen a L1 Peppita hit for 26'000~ with one hit of her three hit physical when hitting elemental weakness with one of her weapons and raging anger from Sophia dying, she can probably do over 99'999 in total and easily counter everything to death with her counters jacked up on Oris even at L1 but it'd be silly to take that into account <.< I like Albel because he offers something different from innate blitzers/heavy hitters like Cliff/Maria and the optional girls, Aura Wall can bounce and hold enemies in one spot for said blitzers and most of his skills do something like knock enemies down or around which is good for safety orientated play. That said I do personally favour a blitz orientated playing style in games and like big numbers so when VF only maxes out at something like 20'000 per hit in a base something > VF cancel while other AoE skills are hitting for 40'000~ or higher with the same base 125% cancel it is something that stands out to me.

Eh most people haven't been rating him that highly anyway >.> Just average. Which is fine I think.

[Meeplelard]

Secret of Mana:
Randi: 4/10.  Randi's got game best physical stats but honestly, they're not by enough that I realistically CARE.
Purim: 8.5/10.  Has just about everything you want.  Healing, a few damage moves, etc.  The only problem is SoM is a game where resource issues DO exist, since MP is limited for a good part of the game and you can only hold 4 MP Healing items at once, so you do have to budget her some.
Popoi: 7.5/10.  Good offensive magic, but he lacks Purim's supportive spells, and most importantly, no Healing.  The MP issues are NOT dealt with from his MP Draining move cause its gotten late, which means its also low level, and egads does it fail at gaining MP at low levels.

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 6.5/10.  Weak start, but once he gets Side Kick, he's solid throughout the game.
Sophia Esteed: 4/10.  Misses out half the game + joins at level 1?  Yeah, even if her skills are good, I can only give her so much credit.
Peppita Rosetti: 3.5/10.  Sophia, for the most part, with less useful skills.
Cliff Fittir: 7.5/10.  Strong throughout most of the game.
Nel Zelpher: 8/10.  Same here!  Half a point for joining with Healing, so that's one less person to worry about giving that "Common Support Spells" book to.
Roger S. Huxley: 3/10.  Not good throughout most of the game...and he's actually around, so he doesn't even have an excuse!
Maria Traydor: 8.5/10.  Yeah, Scatter Beam spam and all that.
Albel Nox: 5/10.  He's fine, but nothing special.
Adray Lasbard: 4/10.  The way SO3 is set up, feels like trying to be a Red Mage doesn't go very far, as specializing tends to be better, so...
Mirage Koas: 5/10.  Good, but joins late and no real drive to use her over Cliff at this point.

Chrono Cross Blue Innates:
Leena: 4/10.  Filler CC.
Nikki: 4/10.  Same here!
Pierre: 2/10.  Notable bad!
Korcha: 2/10.  Same here.
Irenes: 6/10.  Good Healer/Mage, from what I recall
Fargo: 5.,5/10.  He can steal, and was workable enough otherwise.  Got his level 7 tech pretty early too, I seem to recall.
Marcy: 6/10. Good stats overall, I wanna say.
Orhla: 6/10.  Good fighter.
Draggy: 4/10.  Game best speed has to count for SOMETHING.  Thing is, I don't remember him being good in generally any other department.

[Anthony Edward Stark]

A character's skill falling out in the post game on replay only difficulties is not going to really dent plenty of people's ratings of a character's in game use, just saying.

If it was like ME2 difficulties, where enemies get new resists and abilities, maybe I'd count it. But SO3's higher difficulties are the worst kind: no new AI strategies or abilities, just multiplying all enemy stats by 1.X.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Secret of Mana:
Randi: 4/10.  Randi's got game best physical stats but honestly, they're not by enough that I realistically CARE.
Purim: 8.5/10.  Has just about everything you want.  Healing, a few damage moves, etc.  The only problem is SoM is a game where resource issues DO exist, since MP is limited for a good part of the game and you can only hold 4 MP Healing items at once, so you do have to budget her some.
Popoi: 7.5/10.  Good offensive magic, but he lacks Purim's supportive spells, and most importantly, no Healing.  The MP issues are NOT dealt with from his MP Draining move cause its gotten late, which means its also low level, and egads does it fail at gaining MP at low levels.

Meeple got it.

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 5/10. He's okay. Never found anything amazing out of him, but he wasn't a terrible option.
Sophia Esteed: 3/10. Level 1 late isn't really good.
Peppita Rosetti: 6/10. Level 1 late, but actually really pays off.
Cliff Fittir: 7.5/10. Very solid. Hammer of Might is the first "wow" tech, he has lots of HP (MP's a problem later) and solid enough otherwise.
Nel Zelpher: 8/10. Ice Daggers, early Berserk, Flying Guillotine, Mirror Slice... all stuff I got a fair bit of mileage out of. Also an MP tank and the free Common Support Symbols was nice.
Roger S. Huxley: 3/10.
Maria Traydor: 8.5/10. Scatter Beam one-shots disc 1 bosses.
Albel Nox: Abstain.
Adray Lasbard: 4/10. Joins earlier than Sophia if you know how to get him, at least.
Mirage Koas: 2/10. Late and pointless. Good in the aftergame but I'm not giving points for that.

Chrono Cross Blue Innates:
Leena: 6/10. Solid.
Nikki: 5/10. Also reasonably solid, but less so, I think?
Pierre: 3/10. Bleh.
Korcha: 4/10.
Irenes: 3/10.
Fargo: Abstain, not sure how I feel about his stealing.
Marcy: 7/10. Strong physicals and magic.
Orhla: 4/10. Power, but that's it. Magic's an important stat in CC.
Draggy: Pretty damn sure he's not blue, but... 3/10.

[Grefter]

Secret of Mana:
Randi: 4/10.  Randi's got game best physical stats but honestly, they're not by enough that I realistically CARE.
Purim: 8.5/10.  Has just about everything you want.  Healing, a few damage moves, etc.  The only problem is SoM is a game where resource issues DO exist, since MP is limited for a good part of the game and you can only hold 4 MP Healing items at once, so you do have to budget her some.
Popoi: 7.5/10.  Good offensive magic, but he lacks Purim's supportive spells, and most importantly, no Healing.  The MP issues are NOT dealt with from his MP Draining move cause its gotten late, which means its also low level, and egads does it fail at gaining MP at low levels.

Meeple got it.

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 5/10. He's okay. Never found anything amazing out of him, but he wasn't a terrible option.
Sophia Esteed: 3/10. Level 1 late isn't really good.
Peppita Rosetti: 6/10. Level 1 late, but actually really pays off.
Cliff Fittir: 7.5/10. Very solid. Hammer of Might is the first "wow" tech, he has lots of HP (MP's a problem later) and solid enough otherwise.
Nel Zelpher: 8/10. Ice Daggers, early Berserk, Flying Guillotine, Mirror Slice... all stuff I got a fair bit of mileage out of. Also an MP tank and the free Common Support Symbols was nice.
Roger S. Huxley: 3/10.
Maria Traydor: 8.5/10. Scatter Beam one-shots disc 1 bosses.
Albel Nox: Abstain.
Adray Lasbard: 4/10. Joins earlier than Sophia if you know how to get him, at least.
Mirage Koas: 2/10. Late and pointless. Good in the aftergame but I'm not giving points for that.

Chrono Cross Blue Innates:
Leena: 6/10. Solid.
Nikki: 5/10. Also reasonably solid, but less so, I think?
Pierre: 3/10. Bleh.
Korcha: 4/10.
Irenes: 3/10.
Fargo: Abstain, not sure how I feel about his stealing.
Marcy: 7/10. Strong physicals and magic.
Orhla: 4/10. Power, but that's it. Magic's an important stat in CC.
Draggy: Pretty damn sure he's not blue, but... 3/10.

Lazy and these are mostly spot on.  Noting that Nel totally deserves her 8 for early game Healing as well which is awesomely useful then and if you use her all game as your primary healer she gets awesome healing at end game.  Great character, should be used.

Edit - And yeah Draggy is a Red

[Taishyr]

Grefter quoted:

Secret of Mana:
Randi: 4/10.  Randi's got game best physical stats but honestly, they're not by enough that I realistically CARE.
Purim: 8.5/10.  Has just about everything you want.  Healing, a few damage moves, etc.  The only problem is SoM is a game where resource issues DO exist, since MP is limited for a good part of the game and you can only hold 4 MP Healing items at once, so you do have to budget her some.
Popoi: 7.5/10.  Good offensive magic, but he lacks Purim's supportive spells, and most importantly, no Healing.  The MP issues are NOT dealt with from his MP Draining move cause its gotten late, which means its also low level, and egads does it fail at gaining MP at low levels.

Meeple got it.

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 6.5/10. He's okay. Never found anything amazing out of him, but he wasn't a terrible option. Still, SIDEKICKSIDEKICK gives a +1.5. >_>
Sophia Esteed: 3/10. Level 1 late isn't really good.
Peppita Rosetti: 6/10. Level 1 late, but actually really pays off.
Cliff Fittir: 7.5/10. Very solid. Hammer of Might is the first "wow" tech, he has lots of HP (MP's a problem later) and solid enough otherwise.
Nel Zelpher: 8/10. Ice Daggers, early Berserk, Flying Guillotine, Mirror Slice... all stuff I got a fair bit of mileage out of. Also an MP tank and the free Common Support Symbols was nice.
Roger S. Huxley: 3/10.
Maria Traydor: 8.5/10. Scatter Beam one-shots disc 1 bosses.
**Albel Nox: 5/10. Usable but not great, Aura Wall I definitely tried using and never saw stellar results.
Adray Lasbard: 4/10. Joins earlier than Sophia if you know how to get him, at least.
Mirage Koas: 2/10. Late and pointless. Good in the aftergame but I'm not giving points for that.

Chrono Cross Blue Innates:
Leena: 6/10. Solid.
Nikki: 4/10. Also reasonably solid, but less so, I think?
Pierre: 3/10. Bleh.
Korcha: 4/10.
Irenes: 3/10.
Fargo: 7/10. Thief, competent damage. Works.
Marcy: 5/10. Competent at physicals and magic, sure, but she had weird availability IIRC?
Orhla: 4/10. Power, but that's it. Magic's an important stat in CC.
Draggy: 5/10. Recovery was nice, which gave him an interesting Red niche.


This works fine, I think. Edited NEB's ratings slightly to give my own opinions but for the most part we sync'd up. (Fayt/Albel/Nikki/Fargo/Marcy/Draggy edited.)

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Secret of Mana:
Randi: 4/10.  Randi's got game best physical stats but honestly, they're not by enough that I realistically CARE.
Purim: 8.5/10.  Has just about everything you want.  Healing, a few damage moves, etc.  The only problem is SoM is a game where resource issues DO exist, since MP is limited for a good part of the game and you can only hold 4 MP Healing items at once, so you do have to budget her some.
Popoi: 7.5/10.  Good offensive magic, but he lacks Purim's supportive spells, and most importantly, no Healing.  The MP issues are NOT dealt with from his MP Draining move cause its gotten late, which means its also low level, and egads does it fail at gaining MP at low levels.

Meeple got it.

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 5/10. He's okay. Never found anything amazing out of him, but he wasn't a terrible option.
Sophia Esteed: 3/10. Level 1 late isn't really good.
Peppita Rosetti: 6/10. Level 1 late, but actually really pays off.
Cliff Fittir: 7.5/10. Very solid. Hammer of Might is the first "wow" tech, he has lots of HP (MP's a problem later) and solid enough otherwise.
Nel Zelpher: 8/10. Ice Daggers, early Berserk, Flying Guillotine, Mirror Slice... all stuff I got a fair bit of mileage out of. Also an MP tank and the free Common Support Symbols was nice.
Roger S. Huxley: 3/10.
Maria Traydor: 8.5/10. Scatter Beam one-shots disc 1 bosses.
Albel Nox: Abstain.
Adray Lasbard: 4/10. Joins earlier than Sophia if you know how to get him, at least.
Mirage Koas: 2/10. Late and pointless. Good in the aftergame but I'm not giving points for that.

Chrono Cross Blue Innates:
Leena: 6/10. Solid.
Nikki: 5/10. Also reasonably solid, but less so, I think?
Pierre: 3/10. Bleh.
Korcha: 4/10.
Irenes: 3/10.
Fargo: Abstain, not sure how I feel about his stealing.
Marcy: 7/10. Strong physicals and magic.
Orhla: 4/10. Power, but that's it. Magic's an important stat in CC.
Draggy: Pretty damn sure he's not blue, but... 3/10.

[Meeplelard]

Draggy is indeed Red, HOWEVER, he's a total FW in this session; we forgot him last round, so I just shoved him onto this one.  I thought I made a note about that in the first post?

Granted, "When" someone gets rated isn't a big deal, its more "Were they rated, y/n?"

EDIT: That last part was a reminder mostly such that, while I don't think anything was implied by the Draggy = Red other than "Meeple you screwed up!", something happened in the previous topic where someone voted to "DNR" a certain character based on "OMG! HE DOESN'T FIT WITH THE CURRENT MIX! Rate him later!"

No, doesn't work that way; while some of my choices for how to split up characters may seem random at times, we rate them when I put them up; DNRing them then is the same as DNRing them in general.

[Rozalia]

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 8/10 - Side kick comes early and it owns shit.
Sophia Esteed: 2/10 - ....No.
Peppita Rosetti: 2/10 - ...Hell no.
Cliff Fittir: 8/10
Nel Zelpher: 9/10 - Good even if I'm not controlling her and that is worth a point. I don't use those silly books so that healing is nice.
Roger S. Huxley: 8/10
Maria Traydor: 7/10 - Lateness drops her a point.
Albel Nox: 8/10
Adray Lasbard: 8/10
Mirage Koas: 7/10 - Lateness drops her a point

[Grefter]

Yeah Meep, just confirming that Elf wasn't misremembering.  Not a big deal.

[Meeplelard]

Secret of Mana:
Randi: 4.45
Purim: 8.70
Popoi: 8.15

Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time:
Fayt Leingod: 6.28
Sophia Esteed: 3.02
Peppita Rosetti: 5.68
Cliff Fittir: 8.15
Nel Zelpher: 7.94
Roger S. Huxley: 3.73
Maria Traydor: 8.68
Albel Nox: 6.11
Adray Lasbard: 4.22
Mirage Koas: 4.25

Chrono Cross Blue Innates:
Leena: 5.90
Nikki: 4.67
Pierre: 2.45
Korcha: 3.23
Irenes: 3.82
Fargo: 6.31
Marcy: 6.10
Orhla: 4.83
Draggy: 4.06

Best Rating of this session: Purim w/ 8.70
Worst Rating of this session: Korcha w/ 3.23

Top 10 Ratings:
1. Yuna (FFX) 9.80
2. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SH1) 9.53
3. Hyuga "Citan Uzuki" Ricdeau (XG) 9.46
4. Cecilia Lynn Adlehyde (WA1) 9.20
5. Haar (FE10) 9.17
6. Reyson (FE10) 9.11
7. Lenneth Valkyrie (VP(:L)) 9.02
8. Ephraim (FE8) 9.01
9. Elincia (FE10) 8.85
10. Tibarn (FE10) 8.83

Top 10 Failures:
1. Karla (FE7) 0.77
2. Chu-chu (XG) 0.85
3. Maria Balthasar (XG) 1.00
4. Douglas (FE6) 1.10
5. Astrid (FE10) 1.20
6. Lyre (FE10) 1.28
7. Yunno (FE6) 1.35
8. Garret (FE6) 1.36
9. Mogu (BoF) 1.50
10. Noel Chandler (SO2) 1.55

You guys need to be less lazy with ratings! I mean, come on, did 3 people have to copy one person's other ratings? THINK FOR YOURSELVES PEOPLE! ITS NOT THAT HARD!

...token whining out of the way...still doing 3 games, cause one of the games is stupid small and I want to get it out of the way now! Also, the care factor for this game isn't high to begin with:

Legend of Legaia:
Vahn:
Noa:
Gala:

Breath of Fire 2:
Ryu Bateson:
Bosche "Bow" Doggie:
Rinpoo "Katt" Chuan:
Rand Marks:
Nina Wyndia:
Sten Legacy:
Ekaru Hoppa De Pe Jean:
Aspara "Spar" Gus:
Deis:

Chrono Cross Green Innates:
Neo Fio:
Glenn:
Razzly:
Sprigg:
Radius:
Van:
Karsh:
Turnip:

And yes, I *DID* go there with BoF2 names.  MWAHAHAHAHAHA! *Runs*

[Random Consonant]

Legend of Legaia:
Vahn: Yon average main.  5/10
Noa: Oh hey speed and combo bar length.  That's cool.  7/10
Gala: gamebest magic zomg.  Too bad he couldn't have gotten more of the stats that actually matter.  3/10

Breath of Fire 2: eff thinking about this
Ryu Bateson:
Bosche "Bow" Doggie:
Rinpoo "Katt" Chuan:
Rand Marks:
Nina Wyndia:
Sten Legacy:
Ekaru Hoppa De Pe Jean:
Aspara "Spar" Gus:
Deis:

Chrono Cross Green Innates:
Neo Fio: Not good.  2.5/10
Glenn: Faster, more physically oriented Serge.  Being splitpath and splitskies for a large chunk of the game holds him back though.  5/10
Razzly: No.  2/10
Sprigg: NO.  1/10
Radius: Eh CC filler.  3/10
Van: Eh CC filler.  3/10
Karsh: Actually standoutish!  Though this may just be random fanboyism talking there.  4/10
Turnip: NO.  1/10

[OblivionKnight]

Breath of Fire 2:
Ryu Bateson:
Bosche "Bow" Doggie:
Rinpoo "Katt" Chuan:
Rand Marks:
Nina Wyndia:
Sten Legacy:
Ekaru Hoppa De Pe Jean:
Aspara "Spar" Gus:
Deis:

And yes, I *DID* go there with BoF2 names.  MWAHAHAHAHAHA! *Runs*

I thought that would have been obvious by the fact we're ranking BoF2?

[Clear Tranquil]

Albel joins some what later than Maria and a player might completely miss Adray until near/the very end of the game. Just thought it strange that those two didn't receive dockings for lateness when Maria/Mirage did ;o

Chrono Cross Green Innates:

Neo Fio: Abstain
Glenn: 7.5/10 - Two sword hype! *flees*
Razzly: Abstain
Sprigg: 4.5/10 - There. Forced PC during dream world irrc so saw usage at least? Interesting ... concept. Don't really remember using her to any great and rewarding extent though.
Radius: Abstain
Van: Abstain
Karsh: 7/10 - No I agree Karsh is the man *^_^*
Turnip: Abstain

I remember always wanting to get Razzly but the recruitment hoops were annoying and confusing >.>

[Dark Holy Elf]

Assuming you know how to get Adray on disc 1, Mirage joins much later than anyone else, so I stand by that making her quite a bit worse. EDIT: Not because she's not available, but because she's so underlevelled when she joins... you'll pretty much spend the rest of the game just getting her up to speed, which is obviously less efficient than just using the built-up PCs you already have, since she doesn't really do anything Cliff can't in the maingame (her MP fails a bit less once she closes the level gap, that's about it). Maria... all I can think of is that since she got much better scores than Adray/Albel, some people thought it was worth it to take points from her only because it prevented her from getting a 9 or a 10 or something. Higher standards for good PCs, and all that.

THINK FOR YOURSELVES

Chrono Cross/Secret of Mana ratings, you expect people to care?

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Legend of Legaia:

Vahn: 6.5/10. Actually rather solid. Probably your best mage in practice as well, and he gets good mults on his attacks to boot.
Noa: 7.5/10. Got fine use out of Tough Love and she ends up being your strongest physical fighter. Needed more MP, though.
Gala: 3.5/10. He uh is a passable enough healer. Offense is junk, though - Gala also has horrible stats for randoms.

Breath of Fire 2:

Ryu Bateson: 8/10. Your -best- physical fighter until the endgame and also has a nice "fuck your HP" button for bosses. Durable and damaging, little else to ask.
Bosche "Bow" Doggie: 4.5/10. Uh he lags. Has the best healing... eventually, and he also has okay damage due to a few cool weapons in a few stints, but the open gaps in-between that are not very nice.
Rinpoo "Katt" Chuan: 6.5/10. Hits like a freight train in the endgame and always hits hard and fast. The durability is very sketchy.
Rand Marks: 5.5/10. Healers never felt -that- essential in BoF2 (healing, yes. Healers, not so). Doesn't take the merit out of Rand, though. The speed is horrible, but very durable healer is a decent niche.
Nina Wyndia: 7.5/10. Woohoo, randomsmashing and okay damage for bosses! Also fails at durability, but she gets to benefit from fusions early enough to mitigate the subpar speed and once she starts having speed, she grows into a great PC.
Sten Legacy: 4/10. He has a few niche stints: good speed, passable damage and can fusion early. Past that, hardly someone who you'd put in your primary party.
Ekaru Hoppa De Pe Jean: 3/10. Death is nice. The durability works. Everything else, though? The awesome endgame fusion keeps him from a 2.
Aspara "Spar" Gus: 2/10. Nothing saves him from that 2, though. Physically frail, slow and very sketchy at skillset (he has a bit of everything, but nothing he's -really good at- besides buffs, and Deis covers him on buffs as -is-), and even his fusions are junk.
Deis: 9/10. Wins the game.

Chrono Cross Green Innates:
Neo Fio: 2/10. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Glenn: 7.5/10. Good PC!
Razzly: 3/10. She's an okay mage! Who has terrible stats elsewhere and forces you to go the worse route. No.
Sprigg: 2/10. Fuck yooooooooooooooooooooou.
Radius: 4/10. Eeeeeeeeeh. Radius' stats are sketchy.
Van: 2/10. As are Van's. And his skills also blow!
Karsh: 7/10. Acacia Dragoons tend to do fairly well at stats. Karsh ain't an exception.
Turnip: 2/10. Failure.

[Meeplelard]

THINK FOR YOURSELVES

Chrono Cross/Secret of Mana ratings, you expect people to care?

No, not really.  It was an attempt to pretend to overreact at people being lazy, but in truth, I don't care.  Just something I noticed.  You weren't suppose to respond to that

[jsh357]

Chrono Cross Green Innates:
Neo Fio: Never Used
Glenn: 6/10 Overrated, at least based on the time I used him.  He's not that much better than the average character, maybe hits a little harder.  X-Strike is pretty sick in some cases.
Razzly: 4/10 Filler
Sprigg: Abstaining, I don't know enough about her mechanics
Radius: 4/10 He's all right until you get better dudes
Van: 4/10 IIRC boomerangs make him pretty helpful for a while
Karsh: 6/10
Turnip: Never Used

[DjinnAndTonic]

Legend of Legaia:
Vahn: 4 - Average all-around, but sort of lagged behind the others to me. Faster than Gala was good, though!
Noa: 7 - Gamebest speed really helped. Used her as a healer a lot as a result. Pretty much carried the battles.
Gala: 5 - Gamebest magic mattered in LoL... I remember using magic over the combat strings in nearly every fight.

Breath of Fire 2:
Pass

Chrono Cross Green Innates:
Neo Fio: 2/10 - Nothing about her stands out. The green magic skillset wasn't particularly helpful until late, and she was really easy to miss.
Glenn: 6/10 - Minus 1 point for being split path. Good weapons, good damage, double techs with the main character... yeah, he's good. He also benefits nicely from Green magic's best spells.
Razzly: 5/10 - Minus 1 point for being split path. The only character I -like- from the Kid path. She's got great magic and manages to work the green magic skillset pretty well. Point for getting the only maingame triple tech with Serge and Leena.
Sprigg: 6/10 - Potentially broken from changing into monsters. It's all negated by how annoying collecting her transformations is.
Radius: 4/10 - Solid for green.
Van: 4/10 - Solid for green.
Karsh: 7/10 - Awesome.
Turnip: 2/10 - Waste of space.