A lot of the points against Xbox 360 have already been covered by 2G1C, so in the interests of keeping my posts as brief as possible, this post will first talk about the major/interesting points that I found myself and then comment on 2G1C's case. Incidentally, XBox 360 is beyond horrible. In what aspects? Well, let's see:
#1) "Gotcha!" games: for instance, take his
Soviet Russia vote post. Plenty of terrible things about Soviet Russia (though not too many of them are actually ones that imply scumminess, as I mentioned multiple times D2), and he goes for...a sentence which is explaining that an obvious joke is, in fact, y'know,
a joke? The Too Townie bollocks he follows up with doesn't make this post look any better. But let's see what XBox 360 does with his vote and "case" on Soviet: a post stating that he actually wants to lynch 2G1C, but wants to put the Commie under
pressure. Now, the reasoning behind why pressure votes are stupid has been covered multiple times in this game so I won't repeat it, but it's especially stupid if you outright claim that your vote is, in fact, a pressure vote because
it removes any and all pressure that was attempted to be placed on that person, thus making the vote basically 100% useless. Then he backpedals and states that it wasn't a pure pressure vote, that he still wouldn't mind Russia lynched. Which is it, XBox 360?
Now let's look at his
vote jump onto Demote. What does it take to make XBox 360 switch his vote from someone he is "pressuring" onto someone else, someone who is not their preferred lynch target for the day, for that matter? Um, I'm not even sure. That post seems to be implying that XBox 360 thinks that Demote's vote is a pure pressure vote (insert obvious pot/kettle/black statement here), and completely ignores the statement from Demote that "I'm somewhat amazed that 2g1c can't see the case on -2C. The weak vote switching is by far the worst thing to me, and am happy to see him go today based on that alone, to be honest.". Good job. Isn't the first time you've done selective quoting, and evidently it certainly won't be the last, either. Sigh. Anyway, now that I realised that Demote was voting for Breaker, his votejump makes sense: attempt to target a townie that looks weak enough to start a case on, while staying off the townie Soviet train so as not to look terrible once Soviet would flip as town if he were to be lynched D2, which makes sense considering his reasoning for being on Soviet was terribad in the first place! Even though there was good reasoning! Anyway, let's go over to a third case of his, and then note what all of these three cases have in common:
His "XBox-sized poast", wherein he votes me. Reasoning? Misrep, due to a typo. So fine, no issue for the initial accusation, though it's interesting that the relevant typo is hardly actually
relevant for the majority of my case on him, and if anything makes it a bit
weaker. Defers people to Astley's case, which he
later admits he did not read. Sigh. Then, again, does a reread and claims I come out of it looking better than he thought (though he still leaves his vote on me because...sure.) Today's casing isn't any better, he has yet to form any solid case on anyone.
But! What do all of these three cases have in common with each other? (other than the fact that they're
awful.) They're all based around Gotcha-Games(TM) at their core. The Soviet Case/Vote is as a result of a "gotcha!" on Soviet's obvious In Soviet Russia, Town Nightkill Scum! joke, the Demote Case/Vote is as a result of a "gotcha!" on Demote specifying that he was bringing Breaker up to L-2, i.e. "using post numbers to justify his case" (even when that wasn't the justification and you clearly missed the justification two paragraphs above the vote, goddamnit), and his Case/Vote on me is as a result of a "gotcha!" on me accidentally claiming that he jumped from Soviet to Breaker instead of Soviet to Demote. Now, why are gotcha-games terribad? Because they aren't scumhunting, all they catch are minor mistakes, which quite often aren't even potential scumtells, let alone definite scumtells. Moreover, why are they scummy? Because they're easy for scum to use (just skim poasts until you find something that stands out), on the surface they seem convincing ("holy crap XBox 360 found a potential scum slip-up!"), and they make it easier to justify voting for someone who at the time is potentially an unpopular lynch candidate, such as in this case, Demote.
#2) The interaction between Breaker and XBox 360. First, on Breaker's end: interesting how his D1 post
doesn't mention XBox 360 among the lurker pool. Then D2 he does his infamous place-a-vote-he's-going-to-move-anyway-on-XBox-360 and then awkwardly backpedals to Soviet once poked about this by Advice Dog. Now, on XBox's end: D1 he basically was Not Exist, D2 he...doesn't really mention Breaker at all until Meelhouse's post. Seriously, he not only does not see the case on Breaker, he pretty much
ignores Breaker completely. Even after stating that he was going to look at Breaker in his initial post, he never returns to it once it is pointed out to him that Dawg is, in fact, dead. Considering that this was
the competing train to the Soviet Russia train for most of the day, um, wtf? Seriously.
#3) Setupcruft. So many of his posts are setup speculation, and trying to clear people on setup/role alone. Discounting the fact that people can potentially lie about roles, we're playing a
bastard mod role madness setup. Setup speculation and "analysis" thus has the potential to lead us to large amounts of failure. So why is XBox going on about it all the time? Good fucking question. He even goes as far as to state that this is useful in
this post, or at least attempt to, because I'm not even sure what point he tries to make there. Fine, so you're better at theory than scumhunting. Okay. Theory is not enough on its own, it must be backed up by scumhunting, as pointed out by 2G1C. Furthermore, the sheer ludicrous
VOLUME of your theorycrufting is just astounding. Seriously, at least prune some of that shit before posting it, a good chunk of it is irrelevant, nonsensical or ultimately just pointless and won't catch scum at all, and could even doom town if by accident you cleared a scum as town and persisted in this opinion as long as you were alive.
So why post so much of it? Especially after accusing me of being too wordy? Especially after wondering if you yourself were posting too much meaningless garbage
here, for that matter.
But hey, giving yourself the illusion of being both extremely active and extremely helpful for town is great from a scum standpoint! Which is why this is scummy. As opposed to sticking to "truths" that are most of the time irrelevant and more importantly don't actually tell us where you stand on any players! This playstyle is extremely good if you want a playstyle that is totally nonconducive to determining alignment, which seems to be what you're doing.
There are even more things, such as misrep on your own part (see: Astley), and attempting to tie together potential scumpartners for extremely non-obvious reasons, as well as implying that one person being town makes another person scum and vice-versa, similarly for extremely questionable reasons (see, again: Astley, 2G1C), but those 3 are the main ones.
This post is already long enough and I need to go do something else right now, so will get to commentary in my next post.
